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Cigar
10-12-2016, 08:24 AM
My wife and I decided to have nice hors d'oeuvres and sushi party for Election night.

I'm setting up the Poker Table for a few Games and kicking of a few side bets on the exact time of the concession speech, if any, and the exact time the call is made for who Won ... Wink-Wink.

Oh ... and when the Riots Start ... oh wait, I was told those people don't Riot. Oh well. :grin:

Newpublius
10-12-2016, 08:31 AM
My wife and I decided to have nice hors d'oeuvres and sushi party for Election night.

I'm setting up the Poker Table for a few Games and kicking of a few side bets on the exact time of the concession speech, if any, and the exact time the call is made for who Won ... Wink-Wink.

Oh ... and when the Riots Start ... oh wait, I was told those people don't Riot. Oh well. :grin:

For me a Tuesday in November is no different than any other Tuesdsy except its worse because it'll be fucking November. Not sure where I am going that day, if Manhattan, I won't get home until well after polls close, so good chance I won't be voting, and not even remotely upset if I don't. When I get home, last thing I want to do is 'party'

I admire your festive spirit (not making fun of you here actually!)

Wish I could still party like a rock star....!@!

Days are long over.....

Cigar
10-12-2016, 08:36 AM
For me a Tuesday in November is no different than any other Tuesdsy except its worse because it'll be $#@!ing November. Not sure where I am going that day, if Manhattan, I won't get home until well after polls close, so good chance I won't be voting, and not even remotely upset if I don't. When I get home, last thing I want to do is 'party'

I admire your festive spirit (not making fun of you here actually!)

Wish I could still party like a rock star....!@!

Days are long over.....


Don't you have early Voting?

Tahuyaman
10-12-2016, 10:30 AM
Is anyone having a Election Party, Election Night?
No. I'll be too busy getting my stateside home prepped for my move south of the border for the winter.

Cigar
10-12-2016, 01:00 PM
Is anyone having a Election Party, Election Night?


No. I'll be too busy getting my stateside home prepped for my move south of the border for the winter.


So you believe in Winter? :laugh:

Tahuyaman
10-12-2016, 01:32 PM
So you believe in Winter? :laugh:

I do, that's why I spend all of it elsewhere.

Chris
10-12-2016, 02:29 PM
I plan on celebrating Johnson's win quietly.

Cigar
10-12-2016, 09:33 PM
Now I hope my Conservative friends don't cancel because the all bets are off in Vegas :laugh:

exploited
10-12-2016, 09:39 PM
I do, that's why I spend all of it elsewhere.

Tahuyaman's winter estate:

http://img01.deviantart.net/2e93/i/2015/055/0/9/winter_shack_2_by_dcharles65-d8jd7zz.jpg

Tahuyaman's summer estate:

https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/1359/screenshots/578199/cardboard-box.png

Cigar
10-12-2016, 09:44 PM
Tahuyaman's winter estate:

http://img01.deviantart.net/2e93/i/2015/055/0/9/winter_shack_2_by_dcharles65-d8jd7zz.jpg

Tahuyaman's summer estate:

https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/1359/screenshots/578199/cardboard-box.png


High Rent Area

Beevee
10-12-2016, 10:16 PM
Now I hope my Conservative friends don't cancel because the all bets are off in Vegas :laugh:

Conservative friends! You have conservative friends?

Bethere
10-12-2016, 11:21 PM
I plan on celebrating Johnson's win quietly.
16383

Bethere
10-12-2016, 11:56 PM
No. I'll be too busy getting my stateside home prepped for my move south of the border for the winter.

16385

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 08:31 AM
Uh..... OK.

Moving on..... Do real people actually have an election party?

Chris
10-13-2016, 08:58 AM
Uh..... OK.

Moving on..... Do real people actually have an election party?

Those for whom winning is all. IOW, losers.

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 09:02 AM
Those for whom winning is all. IOW, losers.


This is year no one wins.

Chris
10-13-2016, 09:03 AM
This is year no one wins.

But we get to see a lot of memes posted!!

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 09:05 AM
But we get to see a lot of memes posted!!

an unusually large number too.

FindersKeepers
10-13-2016, 09:08 AM
My wife and I decided to have nice hors d'oeuvres and sushi party for Election night.

I'm setting up the Poker Table for a few Games and kicking of a few side bets on the exact time of the concession speech, if any, and the exact time the call is made for who Won ... Wink-Wink.

Oh ... and when the Riots Start ... oh wait, I was told those people don't Riot. Oh well. :grin:



I don't usually stay up too late, and no matter who wins, it's not going to make me feel cheerful.

If you have good friends over, though, and super-good hors d'oeuvres, that will be fun all by itself.

I guess the fact that the campaigning will be over is a reason to celebrate. I'll put a chocolate marshmallow in my hot milk before I go to bed....

Subdermal
10-13-2016, 09:23 AM
My wife and I decided to have nice hors d'oeuvres and sushi party for Election night.

I'm setting up the Poker Table for a few Games and kicking of a few side bets on the exact time of the concession speech, if any, and the exact time the call is made for who Won ... Wink-Wink.

Oh ... and when the Riots Start ... oh wait, I was told those people don't Riot. Oh well. :grin:

They celebrated in a similar manner on the deck of the Titanic as well. An hour later they were dead.

del
10-13-2016, 09:24 AM
They celebrated in a similar manner on the deck of the Titanic as well. An hour later they were dead.

cheer up, derpie

turn that frown upside down! :)

exploited
10-13-2016, 09:35 AM
They celebrated in a similar manner on the deck of the Titanic as well. An hour later they were dead.

Chicken little isn't a good look.

Chris
10-13-2016, 09:38 AM
I don't usually stay up too late, and no matter who wins, it's not going to make me feel cheerful.

If you have good friends over, though, and super-good hors d'oeuvres, that will be fun all by itself.

I guess the fact that the campaigning will be over is a reason to celebrate. I'll put a chocolate marshmallow in my hot milk before I go to bed....


I guess the fact that the campaigning will be over is a reason to celebrate.

Starting to celebrate that already!! :danceshout:

exploited
10-13-2016, 10:04 AM
Starting to celebrate that already!! :danceshout:

Let's be real: if libertarians were relevant, you'd be behaving as bad or worse.

maineman
10-13-2016, 10:24 AM
We will be throwing a gala election night event.... we are probably going to have it catered and hire a bartender so we can mingle with the guests... we'll have both TV's on but folks will probably be going in and out of the pool as the evening progresses.

Chris
10-13-2016, 10:24 AM
Let's be real: if libertarians were relevant, you'd be behaving as bad or worse.

That's Libertarians, the party. 25¢ for that, donate to forum.

Cigar
10-13-2016, 10:25 AM
Conservative friends! You have conservative friends?


Hell yea ...

Cigar
10-13-2016, 10:26 AM
Uh..... OK.

Moving on..... Do real people actually have an election party?


Party People will find a reason to Party :laugh:

Crybabies will find a reason to Cry :tongue:

donttread
10-13-2016, 10:35 AM
My wife and I decided to have nice hors d'oeuvres and sushi party for Election night.

I'm setting up the Poker Table for a few Games and kicking of a few side bets on the exact time of the concession speech, if any, and the exact time the call is made for who Won ... Wink-Wink.

Oh ... and when the Riots Start ... oh wait, I was told those people don't Riot. Oh well. :grin:


No but we are considering a memorial service for the country however.

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 10:43 AM
Party People will find a reason to Party :laugh:

Crybabies will find a reason to Cry :tongue:

If an election is a reason to party, I'd say that you have an unfulfilling life.

Green Arrow
10-13-2016, 10:46 AM
I'm going to be writing and hosting a meeting of young progressives to train them in activism and how to pressure the Clinton administration to be progressive. If she intends to be a corporate sellout in office she'll have a serious primary challenger in 2020.

FindersKeepers
10-13-2016, 11:17 AM
Starting to celebrate that already!! :danceshout:

LOL

That might be the only thing any of us have to celebrate this time around.

Chris
10-13-2016, 11:59 AM
LOL

That might be the only thing any of us have to celebrate this time around.

Sad to say. :( :tongue:

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 01:25 PM
I'm going to be writing and hosting a meeting of young progressives to train them in activism and how to pressure the Clinton administration to be progressive. If she intends to be a corporate sellout in office she'll have a serious primary challenger in 2020.


No matter what, she won't be challenged by anyone from within the Democratic Party.

Green Arrow
10-13-2016, 07:51 PM
No matter what, she won't be challenged by anyone from within the Democratic Party.

She will be in 2020 if her agenda isn't sufficiently progressive.

Tahuyaman
10-13-2016, 11:37 PM
She will be in 2020 if her agenda isn't sufficiently progressive.

I guess we will see, won't we? I believe the Democrats are much more loyal to the party than they are to a philosophy.

maineman
10-14-2016, 07:58 AM
She will be in 2020 if her agenda isn't sufficiently progressive.

the majority of democrats are pleased with a steady incremental form of progressivism. None of the major advances we've made over the past century have happened overnight, but eventually, support was built for them, they were passed, and now are part of the very fabric of America.

Sign at a tea party rally in 2010: Keep your socialist hands off my medicare!

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 08:10 AM
the majority of democrats are pleased with a steady incremental form of progressivism. None of the major advances we've made over the past century have happened overnight, but eventually, support was built for them, they were passed, and now are part of the very fabric of America.

Sign at a tea party rally in 2010: Keep your socialist hands off my medicare!

Incremental...like whenever the corporate masters tell you it's acceptable to continue.

I like Elizabeth Warren's chances in 2020. The generations of Democrats steeped in corporate propaganda are dying out.

maineman
10-14-2016, 08:31 AM
the corporate masters were all FOR child labor laws, I'm sure.

Chris
10-14-2016, 08:40 AM
the corporate masters were all FOR child labor laws, I'm sure.

You mean the way in which children played and frolicked during pre-industrial times? Families had many kids to work the farm. So yes during the early transition to industry, kids were put to work. Machines eventually made them obsolete long before child labor laws were written. Now children play and frolic or go to school. Damned corporations!

Scrounger
10-14-2016, 09:27 AM
We can hold a wake for the Republican Party this time around. Hillary will get the White House, nominate possibly two liberals on the U.S. Supreme Court, take over the House and Senate.... and then, issue a lot of Executive Orders on gun control and immigration. Game over. The Republic is gone.

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 10:20 AM
the corporate masters were all FOR child labor laws, I'm sure.

Passed in 1938. A little less than 30 years later, LBJ passed the Great Society. 30 years after that, Bill Clinton gutted welfare and passed a wholly corporate economic agenda.

30 years later, you nominate someone that is even more in the pockets of corporations than the previous Clinton. Seems after LBJ you went incrementally backwards.

ripmeister
10-14-2016, 02:28 PM
the majority of democrats are pleased with a steady incremental form of progressivism. None of the major advances we've made over the past century have happened overnight, but eventually, support was built for them, they were passed, and now are part of the very fabric of America.

Sign at a tea party rally in 2010: Keep your socialist hands off my medicare!

LOL! I loved that one.

ripmeister
10-14-2016, 02:30 PM
Incremental...like whenever the corporate masters tell you it's acceptable to continue.

I like Elizabeth Warren's chances in 2020. The generations of Democrats steeped in corporate propaganda are dying out.

I can see Warren definitely being in the mix.

Bethere
10-14-2016, 04:10 PM
I can see Warren definitely being in the mix.

Me, too, but in 2024.

del
10-14-2016, 04:24 PM
Passed in 1938. A little less than 30 years later, LBJ passed the Great Society. 30 years after that, Bill Clinton gutted welfare and passed a wholly corporate economic agenda.

30 years later, you nominate someone that is even more in the pockets of corporations than the previous Clinton. Seems after LBJ you went incrementally backwards.

f
the irst child labor laws were passed in 1916.

del
10-14-2016, 04:30 PM
You mean the way in which children played and frolicked during pre-industrial times? Families had many kids to work the farm. So yes during the early transition to industry, kids were put to work. Machines eventually made them obsolete long before child labor laws were written. Now children play and frolic or go to school. Damned corporations!

frolicking kids

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/26/34/d7/2634d71604826ec1d8717c7733bc7853.jpg

https://www.education.ne.gov/ss/CSSAP%20Modules/CSSAP%20First%20Phase%20Modules/images/coal2.jpg

more frolickers

https://wikiprogressives1.wikispaces.com/file/view/child_labor.jpg/299650334/346x246/child_labor.jpg

whee!

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/dwdhistory/images/child_labor_big.jpg

could you be more full of shit? lol

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 05:43 PM
f
the irst child labor laws were passed in 1916.

Correct.

My point still stands.

exploited
10-14-2016, 05:46 PM
frolicking kids

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/26/34/d7/2634d71604826ec1d8717c7733bc7853.jpg

https://www.education.ne.gov/ss/CSSAP%20Modules/CSSAP%20First%20Phase%20Modules/images/coal2.jpg

more frolickers

https://wikiprogressives1.wikispaces.com/file/view/child_labor.jpg/299650334/346x246/child_labor.jpg

whee!

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/dwdhistory/images/child_labor_big.jpg

could you be more full of $#@!? lol

This is a guy who really does think that pre-state peoples organized by consent, rather than force. There really is no limit to his delusions.

maineman
10-14-2016, 05:47 PM
Seems after LBJ you went incrementally backwards.

tell that to Americans with disabilities. Tell that to all of the gay Americans married to the one they love. Tell that to the women who have control over their own reproductive choices.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 05:49 PM
I don't need an excuse like a political election to have a party. I just party as a matter of principle.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 05:53 PM
frolicking kids

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/26/34/d7/2634d71604826ec1d8717c7733bc7853.jpg

https://www.education.ne.gov/ss/CSSAP Modules/CSSAP First Phase Modules/images/coal2.jpg

more frolickers

https://wikiprogressives1.wikispaces.com/file/view/child_labor.jpg/299650334/346x246/child_labor.jpg

whee!

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/dwdhistory/images/child_labor_big.jpg

could you be more full of $#@!? lol

Clearly a representative sample of the average child's life in pre-industrial times. Well struck.

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 05:57 PM
tell that to Americans with disabilities. Tell that to all of the gay Americans married to the one they love. Tell that to the women who have control over their own reproductive choices.

The emotional appeals are nice but unmoving. Roe v. Wade was in the 70s. The ADA was one of the only progressive things to come out of the first Clinton administration - did you think we forgot about DADT?

del
10-14-2016, 06:50 PM
Clearly a representative sample of the average child's life in pre-industrial times. Well struck.

no, clearly a representative sample of child labor being exploited in the late 19th century, well into the industrial era.

for some reason, the invisible hand of the free market, long may it wave, didn't seem to give a shit, so those hateful progressives stepped in and put a stop to it.

now children are no longer free to frolic in coal mines and sweat shops 60 hours a week for a pittance.

god damn the progressives and their theft of those children's freedom.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 06:53 PM
The emotional appeals are nice but unmoving. Roe v. Wade was in the 70s. The ADA was one of the only progressive things to come out of the first Clinton administration - did you think we forgot about DADT?

Things tend to move in increments. Things have changed substantially though.

The other choice is regression. Yes there is that third choice...but you might as well just stay home.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 06:56 PM
no, clearly a representative sample of child labor being exploited in the late 19th century, well into the industrial era.

for some reason, the invisible hand of the free market, long may it wave, didn't seem to give a shit, so those hateful progressives stepped in and put a stop to it.

now children are no longer free to frolic in coal mines and sweat shops 60 hours a week for a pittance.

god damn the progressives and their theft of those children's freedom.

The progs didn't give the invisible hand a chance. It was just about to get to kids after it tackled black lung and snake oil.

del
10-14-2016, 06:58 PM
The progs didn't give the invisible hand a chance. It was just about to get to kids after it tackled black lung and snake oil.

i know

it grieves me greatly that we didn't follow the example of zomia, where children frolic to this very day.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 07:00 PM
i know

it grieves me greatly that we didn't follow the example of zomia, where children frolic to this very day.

Or Somalia. The invisible hand's masterpiece.

Is there just one hand? That could be the problem.

maineman
10-14-2016, 07:00 PM
The emotional appeals are nice but unmoving. Roe v. Wade was in the 70s. The ADA was one of the only progressive things to come out of the first Clinton administration - did you think we forgot about DADT?

I have no desire to MOVE you in any way. I am a progressive liberal and have always been one. I know that progress comes slowly if at all. I also know that we have progressed in many areas since LBJ. If you disagree or if it's not fast enough for you, I could give a fuck. really. We have four candidates running for president, any vote for anyone other than the runner-up has EXACTLY the same impact as a vote for the winner... except, of course, it will make you FEEL better, which is a pretty selfish reason to vote for anyone, imho.

del
10-14-2016, 07:04 PM
Or Somalia. The invisible hand's masterpiece.

Is there just one hand? That could be the problem.

i dunno, one hand worked okay for the addams family

https://66.media.tumblr.com/33d16cf50f1c4f689560a36fa7be7d86/tumblr_mxsj7e6dGL1qc8bz2o1_500.gif

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 07:07 PM
i dunno, one hand worked okay for the addams family

https://66.media.tumblr.com/33d16cf50f1c4f689560a36fa7be7d86/tumblr_mxsj7e6dGL1qc8bz2o1_500.gif

Yeah but that one is visible and if you notice it never actually plays the record.

del
10-14-2016, 07:10 PM
Yeah but that one is visible and if you notice it never actually plays the record.

that tinkling sound is the scales falling from my eyes.

thanks!

exploited
10-14-2016, 07:11 PM
Just so people are aware, in the United States, between 1.5 and 2 million children were working 12-16 hour days as late as 1900 to about 1910.

The only reasons this ended are union organizing and labour regulations.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 07:17 PM
Just so people are aware, in the United States, between 1.5 and 2 million children were working 12-16 hour days as late as 1900 to about 1910.

The only reasons this ended are union organizing and labour regulations.


Those god damn liberal progressives have done nothing for America...

Except for, well all the things they did for Americans.

The list is too long to post.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:23 PM
no, clearly a representative sample of child labor being exploited in the late 19th century, well into the industrial era.

for some reason, the invisible hand of the free market, long may it wave, didn't seem to give a $#@!, so those hateful progressives stepped in and put a stop to it.

now children are no longer free to frolic in coal mines and sweat shops 60 hours a week for a pittance.

god damn the progressives and their theft of those children's freedom.

Yea, the markets were so free during the late 1800's and early 1900's. A veritable Smithian Utopia.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:26 PM
Or Somalia. The invisible hand's masterpiece.

Is there just one hand? That could be the problem.

Ah, the Somalia reference. It was inevitable, I suppose.

The only problem is that Somalia has had a central government for decades.

Incidentally, it's located in Mogadishu, the focal point of violence and chaos in Somalia, whereas the stateless areas in tribal Somaliland are relatively peaceful and stable.

Ironically enough, Somalia is a good example of how the state actually promotes violence and conflict. Not that much more evidence is needed in that regard, since we have about 12,000 years of state-motivated war and oppression to study, but one more example couldn't hurt.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 07:30 PM
Yea, the markets were so free during the late 1800's and early 1900's. A veritable Smithian Utopia.

Compared to now, yes.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:31 PM
Compared to now, yes.

That's kind of like being the tallest midget in the room. Because the amount of national regulations and subsidies that existed during that time were quite substantial.

exploited
10-14-2016, 07:32 PM
That's kind of like being the tallest midget in the room. Because the amount of national regulations and subsidies that existed during that time were quite substantial.

Literally a month ago you were talking about how America was free in the 1800s.

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:47 PM
An excerpt from A People's History of the United States:


Chapter 11: ROBBER BARONS AND REBELS (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnbaron11.html)

...The first transcontinental railroad was built with blood, sweat, politics and thievery, out of the meeting of the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railroads. The Central Pacific started on the West Coast going east; it spent $200,000 in Washington on bribes to get 9 million acres of free land and $24 million in bonds, and paid $79 million, an overpayment of $36 million, to a construction company which really was its own. The construction was done by three thousand Irish and ten thousand Chinese, over a period of four years, working for one or two dollars a day.

The Union Pacific started in Nebraska going west. It had been given 12 million acres of free land and $27 million in government bonds. It created the Credit Mobilier company and gave them $94 million for construction when the actual cost was $44 million. Shares were sold cheaply to Congressmen to prevent investigation. This was at the suggestion of Massachusetts Congressman Oakes Ames, a shovel manufacturer and director of Credit Mobilier, who said: "There is no difficulty in getting men to look after their own property." The Union Pacific used twenty thousand workers-war veterans and Irish immigrants, who laid 5 miles of track a day and died by the hundreds in the heat, the cold, and the battles with Indians opposing the invasion of their territory.

Both railroads used longer, twisting routes to get subsidies from towns they went through. In 1869, amid music and speeches, the two crooked lines met in Utah...

Can't you just smell the freedom?

del
10-14-2016, 07:53 PM
Yea, the markets were so free during the late 1800's and early 1900's. A veritable Smithian Utopia.

only an idiot would claim that

thanks for stepping up, filling the role and missing the point

you're a peach

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:55 PM
only an idiot would claim that

thanks for stepping up, filling the role and missing the point

you're a peach

Oh, I must have mistook your references to the "invisible hand" and "free market" as references to the invisible hand and the free market.

Mea culpa.

del
10-14-2016, 07:56 PM
Oh, I must have mistook your references to the "invisible hand" and "free market" as references to the invisible hand and the free market.

Mea culpa.


you mistook mockery for religion

i can see how you might do that

carry on, party boy

Ethereal
10-14-2016, 07:57 PM
you mistook mockery for religion

i can see how you might do that

carry on, party boy

Aye-aye, Sir!

Newpublius
10-14-2016, 08:42 PM
Or Somalia. The invisible hand's masterpiece.

Is there just one hand? That could be the problem.

Somalia died a SOCIALIST death, not a libertarian one. See: scientific socialism. Turns out putting the word scientific in front of socialism didn't make it any better of an idea.

Newpublius
10-14-2016, 08:52 PM
Just so people are aware, in the United States, between 1.5 and 2 million children were working 12-16 hour days as late as 1900 to about 1910.

The only reasons this ended are union organizing and labour regulations.

That is false. What do you think is the best description of parents who put their children to work? Necessity/desperate need. The experience of the 20th century has shown that as incomes have grown, parents immediately remove their children from the workforce. In Asia, use of child labor has been reduced by 90% since 1950.

Since the industrial revolution incomes have exploded, compared to all previous eras we live in an age of plenty. But we still live in an era where the majority of the planet is still very poor and when you see these societies you will see children working. That is the necessity of 'work or starve" societies, the exist and naturally people like you will condemn them because the children are in the fields instead of at school.

Child labor used by necessity helped to make the societies using them wealthier so that children in the future were able to go to school.

Chris
10-14-2016, 09:36 PM
That is false. What do you think is the best description of parents who put their children to work? Necessity/desperate need. The experience of the 20th century has shown that as incomes have grown, parents immediately remove their children from the workforce. In Asia, use of child labor has been reduced by 90% since 1950.

Since the industrial revolution incomes have exploded, compared to all previous eras we live in an age of plenty. But we still live in an era where the majority of the planet is still very poor and when you see these societies you will see children working. That is the necessity of 'work or starve" societies, the exist and naturally people like you will condemn them because the children are in the fields instead of at school.

Child labor used by necessity helped to make the societies using them wealthier so that children in the future were able to go to school.


Besides the labor union was seeking to remove competition from the workforce. Less workers, higher demand, and higher pay. Same reason unions favor minimum wage.

del
10-14-2016, 09:54 PM
:rofl:

exploited
10-14-2016, 10:26 PM
That is false. What do you think is the best description of parents who put their children to work? Necessity/desperate need. The experience of the 20th century has shown that as incomes have grown, parents immediately remove their children from the workforce. In Asia, use of child labor has been reduced by 90% since 1950.

Since the industrial revolution incomes have exploded, compared to all previous eras we live in an age of plenty. But we still live in an era where the majority of the planet is still very poor and when you see these societies you will see children working. That is the necessity of 'work or starve" societies, the exist and naturally people like you will condemn them because the children are in the fields instead of at school.

Child labor used by necessity helped to make the societies using them wealthier so that children in the future were able to go to school.

What is false? Be specific. Also, you will have to source your claim that child labour has been reduced in Asia by 90%, and identify rising incomes as the reason for this (rather than government regulation or Western people getting mad about it).

I don't condemn "them," as in the average parent in those countries. I condemn the land owners who pay the parents nothing, while brutally exploiting the countries natural resources, and making a fortune off it. Note that in all such countries, unions are still being vigorously busted up, with military and police forces being used to ruthlessly suppress those actions.

The simple fact of the matter is that labour organization, through unions, is absolutely critical to developing past a "work or starve" society. First it was medieval guilds. Then it was unions. Now it is government regulation. I dare you to find me any modern and wealthy nation that hasn't developed along these lines.

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 11:17 PM
Things tend to move in increments. Things have changed substantially though.

The other choice is regression. Yes there is that third choice...but you might as well just stay home.

I feel like I've said this before, but I don't live in one of the handful of states where my vote means a tad more than nothing. Much to my chagrin, Trump wins my state regardless of how I vote. So I will vote for the candidate I like free of nose-holding, because it will not impact the outcome in any fashion.

And the Clintons represent nothing if not regression to the times pre-Progressive Era (1890-1945).

Green Arrow
10-14-2016, 11:26 PM
I have no desire to MOVE you in any way. I am a progressive liberal and have always been one. I know that progress comes slowly if at all. I also know that we have progressed in many areas since LBJ. If you disagree or if it's not fast enough for you, I could give a fuck. really. We have four candidates running for president, any vote for anyone other than the runner-up has EXACTLY the same impact as a vote for the winner... except, of course, it will make you FEEL better, which is a pretty selfish reason to vote for anyone, imho.

I didn't ask if you approved of my agenda. I simply told you what it was and how it works. Whether you choose to get on board or be made irrelevant is your choice. I have no desire to make it for you.

donttread
10-15-2016, 07:53 AM
She will be in 2020 if her agenda isn't sufficiently progressive.


GA, she's as dyed in the wool, Washington insider, sellout , warhawk of a politician as we have. How do you expect to get progress out of that?

maineman
10-15-2016, 09:57 AM
I didn't ask if you approved of my agenda. I simply told you what it was and how it works. Whether you choose to get on board or be made irrelevant is your choice. I have no desire to make it for you.

you can wish for immediate sweeping changes to implement your uber-progressive agenda in one hand, and shit in the other. Tell me which hand fills up faster.

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 10:25 AM
I think that a Walking Dead marathon is appropriate. My candidate has zero chances of winning. The corrupt two - what can you say.

All I can do is recommend that you all prepare for a collapse. I am set.

Bo-4
10-15-2016, 11:51 AM
Sushi sounds like an excellent idea - I recently discovered an awesome sushi place downtown that delivers.

Gonna load up my Trump piñata with door prizes of all kinds.

Then we all plan to bunker up and wait for the Trumpkin revolution after Trump screams voter fraud and rigged election. :D

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tcYkRQOBwwI/V04Xl9W4jgI/AAAAAAAAikc/Byzs4x7v3_4TjCMNjsS6xJ1M6wsgh5XVgCLcB/s1600/Screenshot%2B2016-05-31%2Bat%2B4.00.13%2BPM.png

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 11:54 AM
put some ice on that.

and don't believe the "news" they are lying to you.

Bo-4
10-15-2016, 11:55 AM
Tahuyaman's winter estate:

Tahuyaman's summer estate:



OmG - Funniest post i've seen in a week.

But i'd heard that he bought the Unabomber's old digs. :confused:

https://tommasopincio.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/unabomber2.jpg

Bo-4
10-15-2016, 11:59 AM
put some ice on that.

and don't believe the "news" they are lying to you.

Trump LANDSLIDE -- Rasmussen says so!
:biglaugh:

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/64606204.jpg

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 01:16 PM
Trump LANDSLIDE -- Rasmussen says so!
:biglaugh:

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/64606204.jpg

Support rape much?

Bo-4
10-15-2016, 01:51 PM
Support rape much?

Are you voting for Trump the rapist/molester/pedophile .. or just rooting for him? :)

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

http://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/8/l/6/trump-national-embarrassment.jpg

maineman
10-15-2016, 02:02 PM
Tahuyaman's winter estate:

http://img01.deviantart.net/2e93/i/2015/055/0/9/winter_shack_2_by_dcharles65-d8jd7zz.jpg

Tahuyaman's summer estate:

https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/1359/screenshots/578199/cardboard-box.png

I live in my home year round....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjeNOoiBcwI

Green Arrow
10-15-2016, 02:36 PM
GA, she's as dyed in the wool, Washington insider, sellout , warhawk of a politician as we have. How do you expect to get progress out of that?

Because she cares about power and holding onto it. We can use that to our advantage by seriously threatening to take it from her if she doesn't cooperate.

Besides, I don't expect success, that's why there's a backup plan.

Green Arrow
10-15-2016, 02:38 PM
you can wish for immediate sweeping changes to implement your uber-progressive agenda in one hand, and shit in the other. Tell me which hand fills up faster.

It worked during the Progressive Era (1890-1925), it worked in the 1930s and 40s, and it worked in the 60s.

Certainly better than regressing and calling it "progress." I'll stick with what's working. Good luck in the 2020 primaries.

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 05:13 PM
Are you voting for Trump the rapist/molester/pedophile .. or just rooting for him? :)

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

http://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/8/l/6/trump-national-embarrassment.jpg

That is utter bull shit and you know it.

And I am not voting for Trump.

The hard left is a pile of dung.

maineman
10-16-2016, 10:58 AM
I live in my home year round....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjeNOoiBcwI

hey Tahuyaman.... how's this place match up with your beachside digs?

you can see some of my Navy stuff hanging on the wall in the guest bedroom. ;)

maineman
10-16-2016, 11:00 AM
It worked during the Progressive Era (1890-1925), it worked in the 1930s and 40s, and it worked in the 60s.

Certainly better than regressing and calling it "progress." I'll stick with what's working. Good luck in the 2020 primaries.

I would be fine with a rousing primary that further reenergized my party.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 12:05 PM
hey @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365).... how's this place match up with your beachside digs?

you can see some of my Navy stuff hanging on the wall in the guest bedroom. ;)

That's bigger than my place, but I'll keep mine. I like dividing my time between Mexico and Washington. Staying in one place isn't for me.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 12:22 PM
hey @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365).... how's this place match up with your beachside digs?

you can see some of my Navy stuff hanging on the wall in the guest bedroom. ;)

i didn't watch the full video. While I'm sure you are happy with your place, it's not my style.

maineman
10-16-2016, 01:33 PM
i didn't watch the full video. While I'm sure you are happy with your place, it's not my style.

you're absolutely correct. mine is not mounted on wheels... so there's that.

maineman
10-16-2016, 01:34 PM
That's bigger than my place, but I'll keep mine. I like dividing my time between Mexico and Washington. Staying in one place isn't for me.

did you see all the ship's plaques?

Green Arrow
10-16-2016, 01:51 PM
you're absolutely correct. mine is not mounted on wheels... so there's that.

Why is the nastiness (and weird bragging) necessary?

maineman
10-16-2016, 02:19 PM
don't you have some doilies to crochet?

Green Arrow
10-16-2016, 02:30 PM
don't you have some doilies to crochet?

No, I finished those last night and ran out of lace.

maineman
10-16-2016, 02:50 PM
No, I finished those last night and ran out of lace.

seriously... do you honestly need to question why there is bad blood between me and the "sarge"? Did you MISS all those times where he claimed that I was lying when I said I had served in the Navy? Is that news to you?

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 03:04 PM
seriously... do you honestly need to question why there is bad blood between me and the "sarge"? Did you MISS all those times where he claimed that I was lying when I said I had served in the Navy? Is that news to you?

I think that you two should bury the hatchet. You don't have to respect each other to be civil in public.

I fought with Marines, Air force, Navy and Israeli soldiers and South Koreans. But in the end, we are on the same team. (real fights- not sissy slaps or arguments)

So buck up.

maineman
10-16-2016, 03:32 PM
I think that you two should bury the hatchet. You don't have to respect each other to be civil in public.

I fought with Marines, Air force, Navy and Israeli soldiers and South Koreans. But in the end, we are on the same team. (real fights- not sissy slaps or arguments)

So buck up.

I have no need to "buck up" on your advice. The douchebag has called me a liar. I take my integrity very seriously and do not take kindly to it being repeatedly besmirched. I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

Green Arrow
10-16-2016, 03:45 PM
seriously... do you honestly need to question why there is bad blood between me and the "sarge"? Did you MISS all those times where he claimed that I was lying when I said I had served in the Navy? Is that news to you?

I assumed at least one of you was a grown man. Was I wrong?

maineman
10-16-2016, 03:49 PM
I assumed at least one of you was a grown man. Was I wrong?

I know that I am. I know I value my good name above all else. I know he has repeatedly dragged it through the mud. I know that I don't forget such things.

Chris
10-16-2016, 04:08 PM
OK, all of you stop talking about each other and get back to whatever the topic is.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 05:59 PM
I have no need to "buck up" on your advice. The douchebag has called me a liar. I take my integrity very seriously and do not take kindly to it being repeatedly besmirched. I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

You are a feline.

Bethere
10-16-2016, 06:01 PM
That is utter bull $#@! and you know it.

And I am not voting for Trump.

#lulz.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 06:33 PM
#lulz.

The little troll speaks. Hello. I like the Battle of Helms Deep. Your kind faired poorly there. Ride out with me. Meet them for death and glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6XicBBN1l4

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:20 PM
did you see all the ship's plaques?

No. why would I care about a plaque?

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:25 PM
you're absolutely correct. mine is not mounted on wheels... so there's that.
lol....

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:27 PM
don't you have some doilies to crochet?


What's wrong with you?

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:29 PM
I think that you two should bury the hatchet. You don't have to respect each other to be civil in public.

I fought with Marines, Air force, Navy and Israeli soldiers and South Koreans. But in the end, we are on the same team. (real fights- not sissy slaps or arguments)

So buck up.

i would, but I don't think I would like the dude if we met.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:30 PM
You are a feline.

lol...

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 08:49 PM
I'll be back in sayulita on the 23rd of November. Then my family comes down for thanksgiving. Hopefully this year we don't have a winter storm which tears the roof off my house in Washington, so I can spend all winter in 80+ degree weather.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 09:08 PM
hey @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365).... how's this place match up with your beachside digs?

you can see some of my Navy stuff hanging on the wall in the guest bedroom. ;)


you're absolutely correct. mine is not mounted on wheels... so there's that.


did you see all the ship's plaques?


seriously... do you honestly need to question why there is bad blood between me and the "sarge"? Did you MISS all those times where he claimed that I was lying when I said I had served in the Navy? Is that news to you?


I have no need to "buck up" on your advice. The douchebag has called me a liar. I take my integrity very seriously and do not take kindly to it being repeatedly besmirched. I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.


Uh.... ok.

resister
04-25-2017, 03:50 PM
Trump LANDSLIDE -- Rasmussen says so!
:biglaugh:

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/64606204.jpg
:pointlaugh:

Tahuyaman
04-25-2017, 04:22 PM
I kind of miss maineman.

resister
04-25-2017, 04:25 PM
I kind of miss maineman.
Are you feeling ok?

Tahuyaman
04-25-2017, 04:28 PM
Bumping this thread was a good thing. I too was completely shocked on election night. The thought of a Trump win was as close to unbelievable as it could get. The only thing is, I got over that disbelief rather quickly. Plus knowing that the Clintons were finally dispatched was a good thing.

Tahuyaman
04-25-2017, 04:28 PM
Are you feeling ok?

I have an upset stomach.

resister
04-25-2017, 04:31 PM
Bumping this thread was a good thing. I too was completely shocked on election night. The thought of a Trump win was as close to unbelievable as it could get. The only thing is, I got over that disbelief rather quickly. Plus knowing that the Clintons were finally dispatched was a good thing.
Sadly, some will never get over it, the TDS is terminal. Medical science remains hopeful.

Ransom
04-25-2017, 05:32 PM
I kind of miss maineman.

I don't.

Tahuyaman
04-25-2017, 07:02 PM
Sadly, some will never get over it, the TDS is terminal. Medical science remains hopeful.


It might be terminal.

resister
04-25-2017, 08:57 PM
It might be terminal.
The condition is predicted to last at least 4 years, maybe 8;)

Tahuyaman
04-25-2017, 09:14 PM
The condition is predicted to last at least 4 years, maybe 8;)

It can't last that long. They don't have the stamina. The current level of hysteria can not be maintained.

resister
04-25-2017, 09:24 PM
It can't last that long. They don't have the stamina. The current level of hysteria can not be maintained.A big ​maybe.