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Peter1469
10-13-2016, 05:58 PM
Jack Abramoff Goes Off On Hillary: ‘Most Corrupt Person In History Of United States To get close to the presidency.
(http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/13/jack-abramoff-goes-off-on-hillary-most-corrupt-person-in-history-of-united-states-to-get-this-close-to-the-presidency/)
He spent 4 years in prison for doing a fraction of what Clinton did. He seems to be upset over it.


Jack Abramoff thinks Hillary Clinton should be in prison.

The former super lobbyist, who spent nearly four years in prison himself for fraud and corruption, explained why on the latest episode of “The Jamie Weinstein Show” podcast, where he also discussed the 2016 presidential race, how to fix Washington corruption and the lessons he learned over his infamous career.

Audio at link.

Common Sense
10-13-2016, 06:04 PM
I love when people say "the most corrupt in the history of the US".

It's so hyperbolic that it's hard to take seriously. Have they heard of Boss Tweed or Nixon?

Peter1469
10-13-2016, 06:06 PM
I don't think that is the central part of his position.

Common Sense
10-13-2016, 06:16 PM
I don't think that is the central part of his position.

It's what he said and it's in the title of the OP...

Peter1469
10-13-2016, 06:20 PM
It's what he said and it's in the title of the OP...

I don't think that was the central part of his position. Let me help you out.

If he went to jail for what he did; she did worse, and should also go to jail.

Were you deliberately dodging, or just well, whatever?

Cigar
10-13-2016, 06:59 PM
I love when people say "the most corrupt in the history of the US".

It's so hyperbolic that it's hard to take seriously. Have they heard of Boss Tweed or Nixon?


Wasn't him and about 20 other people found guilty?

He should talk?

Bethere
10-13-2016, 07:15 PM
Wasn't him and about 20 other people found guilty?

He should talk?

It was, among other things, wire fraud. There was a law supported by one indian tribe in texas represented by abramoff to stop casinos on reservations. And he and Ralph reed also represented another texas indian tribe who wanted to build a casino. He played them against each other. He had the bill introduced as a lobbyist in the first place. And he committed wire fraud to convince the one tribe to commit to the project.

None of those things did Hillary Clinton do.

Peter1469
10-13-2016, 07:20 PM
Wasn't him and about 20 other people found guilty?

He should talk?

Read, comprehend, then comment.

When you go out of order look foolish.

del
10-13-2016, 08:30 PM
I don't think that was the central part of his position. Let me help you out.

If he went to jail for what he did; she did worse, and should also go to jail.

Were you deliberately dodging, or just well, whatever?

when was hillary's trial?

i seem to have slept through it

for a shyster, you don't have much use for the rule of law, do you?

Cigar
10-13-2016, 08:51 PM
Read, comprehend, then comment.

When you go out of order look foolish.

Hero of yours :laugh:

JDubya
10-13-2016, 09:56 PM
I don't think that was the central part of his position. Let me help you out.

If he went to jail for what he did; she did worse, and should also go to jail.

Were you deliberately dodging, or just well, whatever?

Utter and complete BS.

Jack Abramoff was a crook who was convicted of conspiracy, fraud and tax evasion in connection with The K Street Project, in which he, Tom Delay, Ralph Reed and others, set up a Republican lobbying scam with the intention of amassing huge sums of money while shutting the Democrats out of receiving legal campaign contributions. All of which he was guilty of and which there is no evidence that Hillary has ever done anything close to.

If he's pissed of at anyone, it should be Tom Delay, who pulled all the strings and got off scot free.

Maybe you should be pissed off about that too, but since they're Republicans, I'm sure you're not.

decedent
10-13-2016, 11:12 PM
From a more reliable source:

The Most Corrupt Candidate Ever Is Donald Trump (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/most-corrupt-candidate-ever-is-donald-trump.html)

Safety
10-13-2016, 11:46 PM
I guess it would be on the same level as Madoff criticizing Wesley Snipes for tax fraud....

Peter1469
10-14-2016, 04:41 AM
when was hillary's trial?

i seem to have slept through it

for a shyster, you don't have much use for the rule of law, do you?

Incorrect. Also a personal attack to dodge and weave.

Peter1469
10-14-2016, 04:42 AM
Utter and complete BS.

Jack Abramoff was a crook who was convicted of conspiracy, fraud and tax evasion in connection with The K Street Project, in which he, Tom Delay, Ralph Reed and others, set up a Republican lobbying scam with the intention of amassing huge sums of money while shutting the Democrats out of receiving legal campaign contributions. All of which he was guilty of and which there is no evidence that Hillary has ever done anything close to.

If he's pissed of at anyone, it should be Tom Delay, who pulled all the strings and got off scot free.

Maybe you should be pissed off about that too, but since they're Republicans, I'm sure you're not.

Hillary is a crook too. That is Jack's point.

Public schools?

donttread
10-14-2016, 07:46 AM
Jack Abramoff Goes Off On Hillary: ‘Most Corrupt Person In History Of United States To get close to the presidency.
(http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/13/jack-abramoff-goes-off-on-hillary-most-corrupt-person-in-history-of-united-states-to-get-this-close-to-the-presidency/)
He spent 4 years in prison for doing a fraction of what Clinton did. He seems to be upset over it.



Audio at link.


The sad thing is he's right, we used to stop and punish at least the most flagarant graft, now half of us want to put it in charge

donttread
10-14-2016, 07:54 AM
I love when people say "the most corrupt in the history of the US".

It's so hyperbolic that it's hard to take seriously. Have they heard of Boss Tweed or Nixon?

Hilary actually helped go after Nixon for far less criminal activity than she has been involved with. Yeah, the woman you want to elect is much more corrupt than the man we forced out under threat of impeachment. The difference? We did not know about his crimes when we elected him. We do know about hers, which is practically aiding and abetting on the part of her supporters.

Common Sense
10-14-2016, 07:56 AM
Hilary actually helped go after Nixon for far less criminal activity than she has been involved with. Yeah, the woman you want to elect is much more corrupt than the man we forced out under threat of impeachment. The difference? We did not know about his crimes when we elected him. We do know about hers, which is practically aiding and abetting on the part of her supporters.

Sorry, I don't buy the hype.

nathanbforrest45
10-14-2016, 11:06 AM
I love when people say "the most corrupt in the history of the US".

It's so hyperbolic that it's hard to take seriously. Have they heard of Boss Tweed or Nixon?

Nixon merely said he didn't know anything about any Watergate break in. While that was probably a lie it certainly doesn't rise to the level that The Clinton Crime Family has.

And you are aware are you not that Boss Tweed was a Democrat?

nathanbforrest45
10-14-2016, 11:10 AM
It was, among other things, wire fraud. There was a law supported by one indian tribe in texas represented by abramoff to stop casinos on reservations. And he and Ralph reed also represented another texas indian tribe who wanted to build a casino. He played them against each other. He had the bill introduced as a lobbyist in the first place. And he committed wire fraud to convince the one tribe to commit to the project.

None of those things did Hillary Clinton do.

No, she just sold uranium to the Russians and is attempting to get us involved in a ground war in Syria.

AZ Jim
10-14-2016, 11:16 AM
Incorrect. Also a personal attack to dodge and weave.Still promoting Johnson I see. You are the most prolific bullshitter on this board and proof people need to be careful selecting a "lawyer".


AZ Jim: Don't insult members, Do discuss topic.

donttread
10-14-2016, 02:59 PM
Sorry, I don't buy the hype.

OK, fair enough . Tell me about all of her accomplishments? Failed healthcare initiative as an unelected first lady? Bankrupt agencies in her wake? Whitwater? Introducing a whopping 3 bills as congress woman? The decline in foreign relations under her tenure as SOD? Sending confidential e-mails from home. ?
Please list the successes because experience without success is just years of failure

Bethere
10-14-2016, 03:44 PM
No, she just sold uranium to the Russians and is attempting to get us involved in a ground war in Syria.

Actually she didn't sell any uranium at all. The state department was one of, like, a dozen agencies that had to approve the sale. It was a bipartisan group effort for sure, and nothing about it was criminal like abramoff was.

Again, Syria? We will disagee on Syria, but honest people would have to admit that she's done nothing illegal there either.

Abramoff was convicted and served time. Hillary Clinton hasn't even been charged with anything. Nor should she be.

Some people expect a better effort than that from you.

Not me.