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Peter1469
10-15-2016, 06:08 AM
Why do women’s groups treat Bill Clinton and Donald Trump differently? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108304112.html)

Because they are political operatives for the democrats.


Groups that advocate for women’s rights are lashing out at Donald Trump for allegations of groping women and bragging about sexual assaults (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article106982327.html).

But some of those same groups (http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/23/clinton.fem/) did not think former President Bill Clinton’s allegations of sexual misconduct nearly two decades ago were disqualifying in the same way.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108304112.html#storylink=cpy

Scrounger
10-15-2016, 06:25 AM
It could be that women will let a liberal do what he wanted because they feel "one" with them. They probably allowed Trump the same liberties until they didn't like his politics.

What I find ironic is that many of Trump's accusers have many skeletons in their closets, but Trump's people don't bring that up. How many of them have appeared nude in public? Have criminal records for their behavior? How many of them are on YouPorn or something like that?

BTW, where is Trump's tv commercial that exposes Hillary getting the rapist of a teen off with a three month sentence AND then laughing about it? It seems that around Hillary, all kinds of evidence can magically disappear.

I think the right loses this because they are always on the defensive. If Trump were to address this issue once, apologize and then move forward, it wouldn't be an issue... you know not like the real issues: terrorism, the economy, taxes, insurance, gun control, refugees, and unemployment.

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 06:30 AM
The left, in general, is a collection of victim groups.

The leaders of the left play lip service to that, but only seek to increase the power of the State.

midcan5
10-15-2016, 06:47 AM
The posts and link above are the usual apologetic for wrong. It is always them over there, group-think at its finest, the truth is hidden under the finger pointing. Nothing new here, the right wing in America cannot stand up for truth, they must always have a bogeymen to blame. Some things never change.

It is an American belief (actually it extends well beyond just America) that it is always the woman's fault, so thus Donald is excused his awful behavior and lies. Consider the place of women in historical knowledge and psychological emotions, it started with Eve and continues to this day. Trump is obviously guilty and he brought this on himself by not apologizing and then lying. His never say I'm wrong attitude finally bit him you know where. And then his constant repeat of the usual conservative republican finger point that it is the MSM's fault forgives him in the eyes of his faithful flock - but it also made media and others look more closely at a man of very low character. Republicans fight against women's rights constantly, so understanding Trump's base of groupies is kinda easy.

"The Republican Platform’s War On Women’s Rights: What You Need To Know" http://www.thefrisky.com/2016-07-18/the-republican-platforms-war-on-womens-rights-what-you-need-to-know/

http://www.politicususa.com/proof-war-women-2

And Pence is the same
https://www.romper.com/p/mike-pences-record-on-womens-rights-barely-came-up-at-the-debate-thats-a-problem-19789

"Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things...every one! So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." Matt Santos, 'The West Wing'

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 06:47 AM
Incorrect.


The posts and link above are the usual apologetic for wrong. It is always them over there, group-think at its finest, the truth is hidden under the finger pointing. Nothing new here, the right wing in America cannot stand up for truth, they must always have a bogeymen to blame. Some things never change.

It is an American belief (actually it extends well beyond just America) that it is always the woman's fault, so thus Donald is excused his awful behavior and lies. Consider the place of women in historical knowledge and psychological emotions, it started with Eve and continues to this day. Trump is obviously guilty and he brought this on himself by not apologizing and then lying. His never say I'm wrong attitude finally bit him you know where. And then his constant repeat of the usual conservative republican finger point that it is the MSM's fault forgives him in the eyes of his faithful flock - but it also made media and others look more closely at a man of very low character. Republicans fight against women's rights constantly, so understanding Trumps' base of groupies is kinda easy.


"The Republican Platform’s War On Women’s Rights: What You Need To Know" http://www.thefrisky.com/2016-07-18/the-republican-platforms-war-on-womens-rights-what-you-need-to-know/

http://www.politicususa.com/proof-war-women-2

And Pence is the same
https://www.romper.com/p/mike-pences-record-on-womens-rights-barely-came-up-at-the-debate-thats-a-problem-19789

"Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things...every one! So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." Matt Santos, 'The West Wing'

donttread
10-15-2016, 07:50 AM
Why do women’s groups treat Bill Clinton and Donald Trump differently? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108304112.html)

Because they are political operatives for the democrats.

Sellouts would be the word.

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 04:30 PM
Right. They don't give a crap about women. They are about their agenda.

AZ Jim
10-15-2016, 04:36 PM
I think they treat Bill different than trump just to piss you off. Suffer.

Ransom
10-15-2016, 04:41 PM
I think the right to vote was a must. Equal pay for equal work. Equal protection under the law. But....was it a liberal who allowed them a driver's license?

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 04:45 PM
I think they treat Bill different than trump just to piss you off. Suffer.

I am not a Trump supporter.

I understand that the public school students insist that opposition to Hillary is support of Trump.

I just chuckle at their dimness.

Ransom
10-15-2016, 04:45 PM
I think they treat Bill different than trump just to piss you off. Suffer.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXrI7vb0n8KHhtvQ6luTn6aiAyll4u1 g43AE4ucSIuIuFMzeX1oA (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjfmeiS5N3PAhXLdj4KHVbHDTAQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onlinebaptist.com%2Fhome%2Fto pic%2F24391-mark-them%2F&psig=AFQjCNEHtvWrymlZRybTGAUq1pmXzoWmfw&ust=1476654318535907)

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 04:46 PM
If we only let taxpayers (federal income) vote we would thrive as an economy.

Scrounger
10-15-2016, 04:48 PM
The posts and link above are the usual apologetic for wrong. It is always them over there, group-think at its finest, the truth is hidden under the finger pointing. Nothing new here, the right wing in America cannot stand up for truth, they must always have a bogeymen to blame. Some things never change.

It is an American belief (actually it extends well beyond just America) that it is always the woman's fault, so thus Donald is excused his awful behavior and lies. Consider the place of women in historical knowledge and psychological emotions, it started with Eve and continues to this day. Trump is obviously guilty and he brought this on himself by not apologizing and then lying. His never say I'm wrong attitude finally bit him you know where. And then his constant repeat of the usual conservative republican finger point that it is the MSM's fault forgives him in the eyes of his faithful flock - but it also made media and others look more closely at a man of very low character. Republicans fight against women's rights constantly, so understanding Trump's base of groupies is kinda easy.

"The Republican Platform’s War On Women’s Rights: What You Need To Know" http://www.thefrisky.com/2016-07-18/the-republican-platforms-war-on-womens-rights-what-you-need-to-know/

http://www.politicususa.com/proof-war-women-2

And Pence is the same
https://www.romper.com/p/mike-pences-record-on-womens-rights-barely-came-up-at-the-debate-thats-a-problem-19789

"Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things...every one! So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." Matt Santos, 'The West Wing'

And you think failing socialism is progress???

Ransom
10-15-2016, 04:59 PM
I am not a Trump supporter.

I understand that the public school students insist that opposition to Hillary is support of Trump.

I just chuckle at their dimness.

But..once it's an adult. An AZ Jim. A Maineman. A TrueBlue. And you see the bucket carrying dimness engaged purposefully.....it deserves a different word than dim. Suck up much more appropriate.

Peter1469
10-15-2016, 05:59 PM
But..once it's an adult. An AZ Jim. A Maineman. A TrueBlue. And you see the bucket carrying dimness engaged purposefully.....it deserves a different word than dim. Suck up much more appropriate.

Those three are robots.

AZ Jim
10-15-2016, 06:32 PM
Those three are robots.What would you call yourself Peter?

Dr. Who
10-15-2016, 07:19 PM
Why do women’s groups treat Bill Clinton and Donald Trump differently? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108304112.html)

Because they are political operatives for the democrats.
I think it's pretty simple. Bill Clinton is very charming. Women loved him when he was President - so much so that they forgave his sexual transgressions. Trump is many things, but charming isn't one of them.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 12:25 AM
The left, in general, is a collection of victim groups.....
That is the complete answer.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 12:37 AM
But..once it's an adult. An AZ Jim. A Maineman. A TrueBlue. And you see the bucket carrying dimness engaged purposefully.....it deserves a different word than dim. Suck up much more appropriate.


Those three are robots.

Thats being polite.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 12:39 AM
I think it's pretty simple. Bill Clinton is very charming. Women loved him when he was President - so much so that they forgave his sexual transgressions. Trump is many things, but charming isn't one of them.. It has little to nothing to do with charm. It has everything to do with the political positions he held. Period.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 01:02 AM
I think it's pretty simple. Bill Clinton is very charming. Women loved him when he was President - so much so that they forgave his sexual transgressions. Trump is many things, but charming isn't one of them.

My boss is a conservative- retired Army LTC. She said she was in a room with Bill in the early 90s and said the same thing.

Just AnotherPerson
10-16-2016, 01:12 AM
It does not really matter what we think, what our opinions are. Our representatives are supposed to be the best of us. But they are a basket of deplorables instead. Our opinions do not matter as much as the facts do, and the facts say these freaks are not fit to represent us. They do not represent anything about us, our morals or values or ideas of right and wrong. These are not our representatives, they are the reprehensables. This should not be an argument.

In what alternate universe do we live in that we are arguing if child rapists should represent us, or even to speak this is disgusting of us. This is a topic that ends the deal. Your representatives are convicts. Let's stop arguing on their behalf's. Lets start over and demand new runners. Because these two are unacceptable. Why are we even arguing about this. Lets lock them up and move on with our lives, and the world is depending on us to get our act together. While we sit here and argue children are dying because of our ways of life. It is time to wake up everyone, and time is of the essence. Time is running thin.

Dr. Who
10-16-2016, 01:21 AM
. It has little to nothing to do with charm. It has everything to do with the political positions he held. Period.
I disagree. I remember his Presidency well and being of the female persuasion, I recognize the appeal that he held for women. He always had that easy charm that is really what attracted women voters, many of whom were not liberals, so much so that women were unwilling to condemn him for sexual transgressions, preferring to believe that these women were throwing themselves at him. If he could have run for a third term, he might have won, despite the scandal. He was a highly popular President and was very much in demand as a speaker after the fact. I think his politics for some, were secondary.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 01:28 AM
A female reporter, from CNN I think, just said he was sexy because he got away with all of this abuse.

That is what we are dealing with in the "media."

Just AnotherPerson
10-16-2016, 01:41 AM
Honestly I never knew about bills rape stuff or Hillary other crap till just recently. I actually didn't care about the whole monica bit. Hill and bill are in a political relationship it is not the same as our world. If they had sex with other people they were probably both doing it so I could care less. Their relationship is not real so it is nothing to trip about. But the rape stuff is different. I actually always liked Bill, I thought he was a good president. I was pretty naïve during those days as I was much younger, I think about 12 when he first got elected. Something like that. What I always thought was that while he was president that our country seemed like it was doing really good better than ever. We really seemed to grow during those times. But now I can't say that I feel the same way. I don't really know what all of the truths are I don't think any of us do, and probably never will. But the allegations are enough to end their run to be our leaders.

I think this has all gone a bit too far. I am not sure what we are allowing to go on here. It is really weird. We are not being normal.

We are being seriously reduced here.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 01:43 AM
Clinton was lucky to not have any serious challenges in this terms. America was doing well because of the dot.com bubble and in foreign affairs the Balkans were the big news. And most Americans didn't know what or where that was.

Ransom
10-16-2016, 07:07 AM
I think it's pretty simple. Bill Clinton is very charming. Women loved him when he was President - so much so that they forgave his sexual transgressions. Trump is many things, but charming isn't one of them.

Not only forgiven him, Who. You've championed him. Bill Clinton still the hottest ticket on the DNC stage. Thus you not only forgive him....nothing he did then offends you hence my call of disingenuous at your pretend stomach churning and middle school hysterics produced this week regarding Trump comments. Want to throttle off about forgiving Clinton because he has charm.....fine and dandy. Turn and around and...like you have....pretend to be outraged at Trump's behavior....I reckon because he ain't charming...why that's see through, Who. Transparent. It's hypocrisy defined and an ever worse attempt to deny it.

Because he's charming.....give me a f'n break. It's because you're hypocrites, Who. This doesn't make you sick to your stomach, you're a hack. You'll gorge on whatever manure the media feeds you. Try to do a better job hiding that fact.

Suck Up.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 08:46 AM
The feminist movement has given up its moral high ground with its long support of Bill Clinton.

Feminists are doing the same thing today concerning Muslim migrants in Europe.

Subdermal
10-16-2016, 09:07 AM
I think it's pretty simple. Bill Clinton is very charming. Women loved him when he was President - so much so that they forgave his sexual transgressions. Trump is many things, but charming isn't one of them.

Oh bullsht. Leftists do not have morals, and that's why that double standard exists - and the 25% of people who historically trust the media - and saw the media do little to no digging at all to hold Clinton accountable; who parroted the "massive right wing conspiracy" and gleefully saw leftists like you repeat the message ad nauseum, are to blame here.

Subdermal
10-16-2016, 09:09 AM
Honestly I never knew about bills rape stuff or Hillary other crap till just recently. I actually didn't care about the whole monica bit. Hill and bill are in a political relationship it is not the same as our world. If they had sex with other people they were probably both doing it so I could care less. Their relationship is not real so it is nothing to trip about. But the rape stuff is different. I actually always liked Bill, I thought he was a good president. I was pretty naïve during those days as I was much younger, I think about 12 when he first got elected. Something like that. What I always thought was that while he was president that our country seemed like it was doing really good better than ever. We really seemed to grow during those times. But now I can't say that I feel the same way. I don't really know what all of the truths are I don't think any of us do, and probably never will. But the allegations are enough to end their run to be our leaders.

I think this has all gone a bit too far. I am not sure what we are allowing to go on here. It is really weird. We are not being normal.

We are being seriously reduced here.

Don't sell yourself short. You've simply perfected your naivete, and added a major dollop of loon as well.

JDubya
10-16-2016, 09:36 AM
Why do women’s groups treat Bill Clinton and Donald Trump differently? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108304112.html)

Because they are political operatives for the democrats.

I can answer that with one simple question... Where's the audio tape?

Where's the audio of Bill Clinton boasting about doing the kind of things he's been accused of?

Absent that tape of Trump boasting about it, any allegations against him would be just that. A lot of allegations that he would be denying (as he is now), and his supporters would also be giving him a pass (as they are anyway), and the press would report it just like any other allegations against anyone else.

Had Clinton been caught on tape boasting about sexually assaulting women, not only would the press have flogged it to death just like they did with Lewinski, he also would have been impeached by the Senate (as he was by the House don't forget) and he would've been out of office and women's groups would have disowned him.

Maybe not to the degree as Trump, but then Clinton was never known for owning beauty pageants, where he paraded nearly naked women around like cattle, nor for dumping his wives when they get too old, in order to take a new younger one.

In other words, one needs to look at the totality of each man, not just allegations made against them.

But it's really the audio tape of Trump boasting about that type of behavior that makes all the difference in the degree to which people believe the accusers.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2016, 09:39 AM
A female reporter, from CNN I think, just said he was sexy because he got away with all of this abuse.

That is what we are dealing with in the "media."

and one feminist reporter once said that she would gladly give him a BJ just for keeping abortion legal.

Dr. Who
10-16-2016, 10:17 AM
Not only forgiven him, Who. You've championed him. Bill Clinton still the hottest ticket on the DNC stage. Thus you not only forgive him....nothing he did then offends you hence my call of disingenuous at your pretend stomach churning and middle school hysterics produced this week regarding Trump comments. Want to throttle off about forgiving Clinton because he has charm.....fine and dandy. Turn and around and...like you have....pretend to be outraged at Trump's behavior....I reckon because he ain't charming...why that's see through, Who. Transparent. It's hypocrisy defined and an ever worse attempt to deny it.

Because he's charming.....give me a f'n break. It's because you're hypocrites, Who. This doesn't make you sick to your stomach, you're a hack. You'll gorge on whatever manure the media feeds you. Try to do a better job hiding that fact.

Suck Up.
Good grief Ransom. The question was why women don't react the same way to Bill as to Donald. I answered the question. That doesn't mean that I support him or his wife. Save your vitriol for someone who cares. I can have an aversion to Trump without that meaning I have any use for the Clinton mafia. Give it a rest.

JDubya
10-16-2016, 10:21 AM
Good grief Ransom. The question was why women don't react the same way to Bill as to Donald. I answered the question. That doesn't mean that I support him or his wife. Save your vitriol for someone who cares. I can have an aversion to Trump without that meaning I have any use for the Clinton mafia. Give it a rest.

Why do low-lifes like him and Subdermal constantly get away with that vitriolic crap, when certain others around here get rung up with warnings an TB's for far, far less?

Dr. Who
10-16-2016, 10:35 AM
A female reporter, from CNN I think, just said he was sexy because he got away with all of this abuse.

That is what we are dealing with in the "media."
What an odd thing for a reporter to say.

Safety
10-16-2016, 11:45 AM
Why do low-lifes like him and Subdermal constantly get away with that vitriolic crap, when certain others around here get rung up with warnings an TB's for far, far less?

Take comments on moderation to pm

The Xl
10-16-2016, 11:53 AM
Because they're doing what they're told. Bill Clinton has had many accusers and even a settled case spread out over the last 30 years. The fact that he pressured a 21 year old intern also shows his character, in many states, a teacher having relations with an adult student is categorized as illegal because of the power imbalance, that's childs play when compared to the power imbalance between Bill and Monica.

Trump had literally no allegations against him until a few women recently came out of nowhere asserting stuff from 25-35 years ago. It reeks of nonsense, frankly, and it will likely be impossible to prove.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 12:01 PM
Because they're doing what they're told. Bill Clinton has had many accusers and even a settled case spread out over the last 30 years. The fact that he pressured a 21 year old intern also shows his character, in many states, a teacher having relations with an adult student is categorized as illegal because of the power imbalance, that's childs play when compared to the power imbalance between Bill and Monica.

Trump had literally no allegations against him until a few women recently came out of nowhere asserting stuff from 25-35 years ago. It reeks of nonsense, frankly, and it will likely be impossible to prove.

Likely written by the typists in the MSM within the last couple of months.

The hard left is on the march.

Scrounger
10-16-2016, 04:26 PM
I can answer that with one simple question... Where's the audio tape?

Where's the audio of Bill Clinton boasting about doing the kind of things he's been accused of?

Absent that tape of Trump boasting about it, any allegations against him would be just that. A lot of allegations that he would be denying (as he is now), and his supporters would also be giving him a pass (as they are anyway), and the press would report it just like any other allegations against anyone else.

Had Clinton been caught on tape boasting about sexually assaulting women, not only would the press have flogged it to death just like they did with Lewinski, he also would have been impeached by the Senate (as he was by the House don't forget) and he would've been out of office and women's groups would have disowned him.

Maybe not to the degree as Trump, but then Clinton was never known for owning beauty pageants, where he paraded nearly naked women around like cattle, nor for dumping his wives when they get too old, in order to take a new younger one.

In other words, one needs to look at the totality of each man, not just allegations made against them.

But it's really the audio tape of Trump boasting about that type of behavior that makes all the difference in the degree to which people believe the accusers.

This is an artful dodge when you consider the facts. Just today, for example, Chuck Todd was trying talk down to Mike Pence when Pence stated that the sexual assault allegations were unsubstantiated. Pence did not back down. Yet the Democrats (and their surrogates like Todd) will continue to play semantics.

Unsubstantiated is synonymous with words like unconfirmed, uncorroborated, unsupported and open to question.
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/unsubstantiated

Their allegations, not meeting that standard, should be of dubious worth if we apply your standards. Right or wrong? That being the case, since these women did not pursue the issue a decade or more ago, it should be irrelevant and dismissed for now so that we can get back to issues of concern to the voters.

I keep wondering why the media don't pursue Hillary for defending the rapist of a teen:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/11/the-facts-about-hillary-clinton-and-the-kathy-shelton-rape-case/

Will that be fodder for the next debate or will it all be about Trump's decade plus old talk? Gotta love the double standards here.

PolWatch
10-16-2016, 04:37 PM
good question! They are both immoral sleazes.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 05:16 PM
Yet the media only attacks one of them.

PolWatch
10-16-2016, 05:17 PM
Yet the media only attacks one of them.

Only one of them is running for president.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 05:46 PM
Only one of them is running for president.

No intelligent person separates Hillary from Bill. She attacked his victims viciously. Like a wolf.

She also said that Bill would fix the economy under her regime.

She couldn't separate her campaign from Bill even if she filed for divorce. The American people are too smart for this nonsense.

Scrounger
10-16-2016, 05:50 PM
good question! They are both immoral sleazes.

Okay, they are both immoral sleazes. The next president will get to redo the United States Supreme Court. I was more impressed with Trump's pick of Pence than Hillary's pick of the gay looking smug azz Grinch, Kaine.

We know that Hillary will gut the Second Amendment with SCOTUS picks and turn us into a socialist cesspool. At least there is a chance it won't happen with Trump.

PolWatch
10-16-2016, 06:15 PM
No intelligent person separates Hillary from Bill. She attacked his victims viciously. Like a wolf.

She also said that Bill would fix the economy under her regime.

She couldn't separate her campaign from Bill even if she filed for divorce. The American people are too smart for this nonsense.

wives usually side with husbands....even if they are immoral sleazes. Sad but true. I'm no supporter of Clinton but Trump isn't any better....which anyone with intelligence would notice.

Peter1469
10-16-2016, 06:51 PM
wives usually side with husbands....even if they are immoral sleazes. Sad but true. I'm no supporter of Clinton but Trump isn't any better....which anyone with intelligence would notice.

Most women don't hire private detectives to kill their pets and intimidate them. It is completely inexcusable the lengths that that hard left has gone to to cover up the Clinton crimes.

It fits in with the current criminal activity of letting Hilary off when she ought to be in jail.

Ransom
10-19-2016, 06:18 AM
Good grief Ransom. The question was why women don't react the same way to Bill as to Donald. I answered the question. That doesn't mean that I support him or his wife. Save your vitriol for someone who cares. I can have an aversion to Trump without that meaning I have any use for the Clinton mafia. Give it a rest.

Give your hypocrisy a rest, Who. Or make it less transparent. It's you going off about how sick to your stomach you are.....and now asking me to give it a rest. You are a colossal suck up.

Ransom
10-19-2016, 06:21 AM
Why do low-lifes like him and Subdermal constantly get away with that vitriolic crap, when certain others around here get rung up with warnings an TB's for far, far less?

http://unhyphenatedamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kleenex-tissue-box-l.jpg
Apparently, you don't enjoy being exposed as an utter suck up either, huh? Here's a Kleenex.

Ransom
10-19-2016, 06:23 AM
good question! They are both immoral sleazes.

= Hillary voter

DGUtley
10-19-2016, 07:50 AM
Okay, they are both immoral sleazes. The next president will get to redo the United States Supreme Court. I was more impressed with Trump's pick of Pence than Hillary's pick of the gay looking smug azz Grinch, Kaine. We know that Hillary will gut the Second Amendment with SCOTUS picks and turn us into a socialist cesspool. At least there is a chance it won't happen with Trump.

Isn't the underlined/bold enough? Seriously folks. The impact of the new Court will stay with us for 50 - 75 years. Isn't that enough? The intellectually dishonesty of this Court is astounding. The politicization is a disgrace. Do you really want a left-wing, politically correct SC that has no respect for stare decisis? Do you really want the elitists deciding things rather than the people? If for no other reason, Preserve the Court - Vote Trump 2016.

Dr. Who
10-19-2016, 06:54 PM
Give your hypocrisy a rest, Who. Or make it less transparent. It's you going off about how sick to your stomach you are.....and now asking me to give it a rest. You are a colossal suck up.
I'd love to know to whom I am sucking up. I wouldn't vote for either candidate unless someone had me at gunpoint. If the thread is about Trump I talk about Trump, if it's about Hillary, I'll talk about Hillary.

Do you really want to know what I think about Hillary? Hillary is an agent for the globalists in this world. She was bought and paid for a long time ago and she has no concerns whatsoever about doing their bidding. She's a card-carrying member of the Bilderberg Group who are actively trying to shape the world to suit elite interests. She has no conscience whatsoever. She is dangerous. She fosters and promotes global instability to ensure weapons sales, high oil prices and banking interests, while simultaneously pretending to pander to social consciousness. All of these things increase the Clinton bottom line and she is determined to be part of the elite at the end of the day, calling the shots rather than being a member of the rest of society who will be exploited by the dominant oligarchy. Her method (or their method) is insidious and calculated, by incrementally creating a dependent class. This method takes time, so the next four years will simply be more of the same, increasing the wealth of the 1% with a further decline in the fortunes and political influence of the rest. One day there will be a major economic collapse because of America's overwhelming indebtedness and those elite interests will step in and buy up the debt for pennies on the dollar and they will own America, lock, stock and barrel. The Constitution will be tossed out and a new Constitution will take its place where people will have very few real rights at all, however, Hillary will not likely be President when it happens, but she will have ensured her place at the top and ensured the future of her daughter and her daughter's progeny. She will not start WWIII because a scorched earth policy is not in the interests of "the oligarchy". The dynamics are too unpredictable because they involve parties not members of the club.

Hillary is like a slow growing cancer that just gradually weakens and ultimately kills the body. Trump, on the other hand, is like a virulent infectious disease that the body may or may not survive.

Scrounger
10-20-2016, 08:57 PM
I'd love to know to whom I am sucking up. I wouldn't vote for either candidate unless someone had me at gunpoint. If the thread is about Trump I talk about Trump, if it's about Hillary, I'll talk about Hillary.

Do you really want to know what I think about Hillary? Hillary is an agent for the globalists in this world. She was bought and paid for a long time ago and she has no concerns whatsoever about doing their bidding. She's a card-carrying member of the Bilderberg Group who are actively trying to shape the world to suit elite interests. She has no conscience whatsoever. She is dangerous. She fosters and promotes global instability to ensure weapons sales, high oil prices and banking interests, while simultaneously pretending to pander to social consciousness. All of these things increase the Clinton bottom line and she is determined to be part of the elite at the end of the day, calling the shots rather than being a member of the rest of society who will be exploited by the dominant oligarchy. Her method (or their method) is insidious and calculated, by incrementally creating a dependent class. This method takes time, so the next four years will simply be more of the same, increasing the wealth of the 1% with a further decline in the fortunes and political influence of the rest. One day there will be a major economic collapse because of America's overwhelming indebtedness and those elite interests will step in and buy up the debt for pennies on the dollar and they will own America, lock, stock and barrel. The Constitution will be tossed out and a new Constitution will take its place where people will have very few real rights at all, however, Hillary will not likely be President when it happens, but she will have ensured her place at the top and ensured the future of her daughter and her daughter's progeny. She will not start WWIII because a scorched earth policy is not in the interests of "the oligarchy". The dynamics are too unpredictable because they involve parties not members of the club.

Hillary is like a slow growing cancer that just gradually weakens and ultimately kills the body. Trump, on the other hand, is like a virulent infectious disease that the body may or may not survive.


Somebody does have you at gunpoint. Hillary will take away your gun and the LEO / military will be the only ones armed. Do you trust government that much? It's the lesser of two evils.