I've been voting 60 years

[AZ Jim]

I have never seen us so divided. Never seen the paranoia and hatred like it is now. This forum is a microcosm of society in general and it is here in spades. It is frightening.

[Boris The Animal]

Only because we now know how evil and depraved the Democrat party has become since the 1960s. There are NO Conservatives there anymore, just whacked out Leftists-Communists like you Jimbo.

[Boris The Animal]

And for the record, I WANT the division. At least we know who the enemies of America are and they are Democrats.

[Peter1469]

Lots of trash out there.

Good people will stick together.

[AZ Jim]

And for the record, I WANT the division. At least we know who the enemies of America are and they are Democrats.What is it that has gone wrong in your mind to fill you with such a bias against the Americans who are members of the democrat party? Do you not know that we have served our country, fought and died just like republicans. We are your mailman, your barber, your policeman, we are all the same as you, we are Americans. We want the best for our country. I feel sorry for you and those who feel as you do. It must be hell.

[Cigar]

The Root Cause = Change

People inherently fear and distrust change and uncomfortable with it.

I remember my Grandfather had a pet-peeve about push button phones. But I also remember my father saying, either learn to deal with it or you'll never be able to make phone calls.

Most Dinosaurs eventually died, but those who evolved are still live today.

[Boris The Animal]

What is it that has gone wrong in your mind to fill you with such a bias against the Americans who are members of the democrat party? Do you not know that we have served our country, fought and died just like republicans. We are your mailman, your barber, your policeman, we are all the same as you, we are Americans. We want the best for our country. I feel sorry for you and those who feel as you do. It must be hell.It's because you have warp sped so far to the Left that Stalin would be envious of you. there are ZERO Conservatives in the DemocRAT party.

[Boris The Animal]

What is it that has gone wrong in your mind to fill you with such a bias against the Americans who are members of the democrat party? Do you not know that we have served our country, fought and died just like republicans. We are your mailman, your barber, your policeman, we are all the same as you, we are Americans. We want the best for our country. I feel sorry for you and those who feel as you do. It must be hell.And for the record, you are not REAL Americans.

[Common Sense]

and for the record, you are not real americans.

lol...

[Peter1469]

The Root Cause = Change

People inherently fear and distrust change and uncomfortable with it.

I remember my Grandfather had a pet-peeve about push button phones. But I also remember my father saying, either learn to deal with it or you'll never be able to make phone calls.

Most Dinosaurs eventually died, but those who evolved are still live today.

Many people oppose the change from nationalism to globalism.

I understand that many others agree with it.

[Cigar]

And for the record, you are not REAL Americans.


Thank God ... would you believe I didn't even stand at attention and cover my heart during the Cub National Anthem :laugh:

[Cigar]

Many people oppose the change from nationalism to globalism.

I understand that many others agree with it.


It doesn't matter ... we live in a Global World and no one ever asked our permission .. it just Evolved that way.

[Boris The Animal]

It doesn't matter ... we live in a Global World and no one ever asked our permission .. it just Evolved that way.Point is we want no part in it.

[AZ Jim]

And for the record, you are not REAL Americans.Boris, I have been an American long before you were born, I did my military hitch, I worked all my life at an honest job, I have voted every single election, never arrested. I held top secret special access clearances with DOD for 30 years. In short, my man, I most certainly am an American, maybe more so than you.

[Cigar]

Point is we want no part in it.


BS ... who is "we"?

[Peter1469]

It doesn't matter ... we live in a Global World and no one ever asked our permission .. it just Evolved that way.

Then why the backlash?

I do agree that in the far future it will happen naturally.

[Cigar]

Then why the backlash?

I do agree that in the far future it will happen naturally.


If you started telling Americans that their 65" TV is going to cost them $10k or their iPhone will cost $3k ... you'd see a change of heart.

[Newpublius]

What is it that has gone wrong in your mind to fill you with such a bias against the Americans who are members of the democrat party? Do you not know that we have served our country, fought and died just like republicans. We are your mailman, your barber, your policeman, we are all the same as you, we are Americans. We want the best for our country. I feel sorry for you and those who feel as you do. It must be hell.

You're asking too much from me, its just that simple, I am paying more than half my income to all levels of government. Taxes are the single biggest expense Americans face

[Peter1469]

If you started telling Americans that their 65" TV is going to cost them $10k or their iPhone will cost $3k ... you'd see a change of heart.

I said nothing of the sort.

Neither did the people who said yes to Brexit.

[Newpublius]

Thank God ... would you believe I didn't even stand at attention and cover my heart during the Cub National Anthem :laugh:

Nooooooooo!@@@@! :azn:

[maineman]

And for the record, you are not REAL Americans.

gfy

[Cigar]

Nooooooooo!@@@@! :azn:


I was getting the Beers out of the frig :laugh: people were thirsty

[Newpublius]

If you started telling Americans that their 65" TV is going to cost them $10k or their iPhone will cost $3k ... you'd see a change of heart.

Most people here would of course. Trump is a neomercantalist of course, but most conservatives here are unabashed free traders.

[AZ Jim]

You're asking too much from me, its just that simple, I am paying more than half my income to all levels of government. Taxes are the single biggest expense Americans face You see a political solution, vote for it.

[Private Pickle]

I have never seen us so divided. Never seen the paranoia and hatred like it is now. This forum is a microcosm of society in general and it is here in spades. It is frightening.

60 years huh? Look where that's gotten us...

[Boris The Animal]

You see a political solution, vote for it.Simple, get the Federal government out of the social welfare business.

[Subdermal]

The Root Cause = Change

People inherently fear and distrust change and uncomfortable with it.

I remember my Grandfather had a pet-peeve about push button phones. But I also remember my father saying, either learn to deal with it or you'll never be able to make phone calls.

Most Dinosaurs eventually died, but those who evolved are still live today.

I don't tolerate the analysis of an idiot. You are ignorant of history if you think that what is being rebelled against is the notion of 'change'. You're not 'changing' anything. You're entertaining a historical reversion. Humankind has been already where imbeciles like you want to take us. This is not a new effort. These are the same actors who believe the same things looking to suppress once again liberty and prosperity so that they can control you. The only thing that is new this time in the means and methods employed.

Part of that was making you feel alienated from the society who which you're supposed to have loyalty - including our Constitution. They've not 'educated' you; they've indoctrinated you.

You're just a useful idiot to them.

[Chris]

And for the record, you are not REAL Americans.


gfy



Watch the insults and languages. Discuss topic instead.

[Subdermal]

Boris, I have been an American long before you were born, I did my military hitch, I worked all my life at an honest job, I have voted every single election, never arrested. I held top secret special access clearances with DOD for 30 years. In short, my man, I most certainly am an American, maybe more so than you.

All those things are great.

The problem is that your belief system is not reflective of the core ideology upon which this country was founded, and you're hopelessly and terminally ignorant regarding why.

You've managed to float through your 80 years of life unaware that what this country stands for is anathema to your own held ideology.

[Peter1469]

I guess not.

[maineman]

Watch the insults and languages. Discuss topic instead.

google for yourself. democrats ARE real Americans.

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[Chris]

The Root Cause = Change

People inherently fear and distrust change and uncomfortable with it.

I remember my Grandfather had a pet-peeve about push button phones. But I also remember my father saying, either learn to deal with it or you'll never be able to make phone calls.

Most Dinosaurs eventually died, but those who evolved are still live today.


People fear change because you can't really control direction and consequences. Things change. Politicians try to control and manage it.

What I fear in this election is there will be no change at all. The government will grow along with regulation and taxation and nothing will improve.

[Newpublius]

You see a political solution, vote for it.

Don't blame me that I'm not on board with you. There are consequences to your votes and collectively they're alienating large segments of our society in a way that you aclnowledge ia more divisive than you have ever seen.

[Boris The Animal]

google for yourself. democrats ARE real Americans.Really? Then why support a Euroweenie Socialist "Utopia" that is unsustainable?

[AZ Jim]

All those things are great.

The problem is that your belief system is not reflective of the core ideology upon which this country was founded, and you're hopelessly and terminally ignorant regarding why.

You've managed to float through your 80 years of life unaware that what this country stands for is anathema to your own held ideology.It never occurs to you that just maybe you could be 100% wrong. You seek the panacea in a selfish, cold and socially unacceptable way. The "Conservative" label has been perverted to serve selfish and dishonest goals. The republican party of today is a completely different that I first registered in when I could first vote. I watched it drift away and I re-registered after Reagan.

[Newpublius]

Really? Then why support a Euroweenie Socialist "Utopia" that is unsustainable?

Oh, no, Boris the American version of socialism will WORK, I assure you, this time we WILL do it right!

[AZ Jim]

Don't blame me that I'm not on board with you. There are consequences to your votes and collectively they're alienating large segments of our society in a way that you aclnowledge ia more divisive than you have ever seen.Where did I assign blame to you? We are all free to make our own mistakes.

[Cigar]

I don't tolerate the analysis of an idiot. You are ignorant of history if you think that what is being rebelled against is the notion of 'change'. You're not 'changing' anything. You're entertaining a historical reversion. Humankind has been already where imbeciles like you want to take us. This is not a new effort. These are the same actors who believe the same things looking to suppress once again liberty and prosperity so that they can control you. The only thing that is new this time in the means and methods employed.

Part of that was making you feel alienated from the society who which you're supposed to have loyalty - including our Constitution. They've not 'educated' you; they've indoctrinated you.

You're just a useful idiot to them.

http://ceclair.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/120543018803-your-time-is-up.jpg (http://www.disboards.com/threads/disdads-person-to-post-last-is-the-winner-5.3259625/page-127)

[Chris]

Oh, no, Boris the American version of socialism will WORK, I assure you, this time we WILL do it right!

Idealist!

[maineman]

Really? Then why support a Euroweenie Socialist "Utopia" that is unsustainable?

I disagree with your characterization of what I support, and I disagree with your opinion that what I support is unsustainable.

ande I really don't give a FUCK how fit to be tied you'll be when Hillary is inaugurated. I hope you stroke out, as a matter of fact.

maineman

Wishing death on another member crosses the line. Stop.

[Cigar]

:shocked:

[Peter1469]

It never occurs to you that just maybe you could be 100% wrong. You seek the panacea in a selfish, cold and socially unacceptable way. The "Conservative" label has been perverted to serve selfish and dishonest goals. The republican party of today is a completely different that I first registered in when I could first vote. I watched it drift away and I re-registered after Reagan.

Don't make the mistake of calling conservatives republicans. The establishment GOP is one and the same with the dems.

[Cigar]

Don't make the mistake of calling conservatives republicans. The establishment GOP is one and the same with the dems.

Don't make the mistake of calling progressives democrats. :wink:

[Newpublius]

Where did I assign blame to you? We are all free to make our own mistakes.

Your response to my chagrin at being levied over 50% typifies exactly why I'm not vested in this country's political future. Your response can be summarized as, "Fuck you, win the election." Madison notes how important it is to create a government that obliges itself to control itself. If your government, with 50%+1 support can make any confiscatory claim to my income, I don't care what the result of the election is, I'm not with you anymore. When you make taxes the largest expense many Americans face, expect resentment, expect anything less and you're deluding yourself.

[Subdermal]

It never occurs to you that just maybe you could be 100% wrong. You seek the panacea in a selfish, cold and socially unacceptable way.

The problem with your statement is that you're just as targeted by it.


The "Conservative" label has been perverted to serve selfish and dishonest goals.

That's utter nonsense. The goals are getting Government out of our pockets and our lives. You consider that 'selfish and dishonest' and it's what the majority of Americans have historically desired, and what our Constitution historically protected. You're babbling generalistic nonsense, which is why you gave no examples whatsoever?

Why? Because you know I'll slam your dick in the door in rebuttal.


The republican party of today is a completely different that I first registered in when I could first vote. I watched it drift away and I re-registered after Reagan.

The Republican Party is 'completely different' because it has become Establishment. You just - effortlessly, and without thought - shifted gears in an intentional attempt to conflate what a Conservative is with what a Republican is.

I have never been a Republican. I have voted Republican most of my life because the particular candidate was the most ideologically aligned with me.

Why don't you go ahead and tell the group what about Conservatives and Conservatism has changed for you?

[Newpublius]

It never occurs to you that just maybe you could be 100% wrong. You seek the panacea in a selfish, cold and socially unacceptable way. The "Conservative" label has been perverted to serve selfish and dishonest goals. The republican party of today is a completely different that I first registered in when I could first vote. I watched it drift away and I re-registered after Reagan.

It never occurs to you that the people merely trying to keep the income they've earned are infinitely less selfish than the people trying to take it away from them.

[Peter1469]

Don't make the mistake of calling progressives democrats. :wink:

Why? Give me a reason to believe that is true.

[Subdermal]

google for yourself. democrats ARE real Americans.

We know what you meant. Why do you think you're gaining something by feigning with a clever conceit?

[Subdermal]

http://ceclair.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/120543018803-your-time-is-up.jpg (http://www.disboards.com/threads/disdads-person-to-post-last-is-the-winner-5.3259625/page-127)

Just exactly what a useful idiot would say. Before he's harvested.

[maineman]

We know what you meant. Why do you think you're gaining something by feigning with a clever conceit?

the sheer joy of knowing that you think I'm clever. You have no idea how desperately I crave your approval.

[Cigar]

Just exactly what a useful idiot would say. Before he's harvested.


What's wrong, not feeling special anymore :laugh:

[Cigar]

the sheer joy of knowing that you think I'm clever. You have no idea how desperately I crave your approval.


Something tells me he'll be in some mental hospital after November 8th :laugh: that's really too bad. :grin:

[AZ Jim]

The polarity within this thread is such that any rebuttal is tantamount to casting a few grains of sand into an angry ocean in the hope of increasing land, accordingly I will allow my posts to lie as my position.

[Newpublius]

Don't make the mistake of calling progressives democrats. :wink:

True with respect to 'peace' -- if Sanders/Paul agreed on one thing it would be that.

[Subdermal]

the sheer joy of knowing that you think I'm clever. You have no idea how desperately I crave your approval.

I'm not looking to give you a compliment. I'm pointing out your core dishonest nature.

[Subdermal]

What's wrong, not feeling special anymore :laugh:

Is that what you're craving? You're special, Cigar.

Just like everybody else.

[Chris]

I don't tolerate the analysis of an idiot. You are ignorant of history if you think that what is being rebelled against is the notion of 'change'. You're not 'changing' anything. You're entertaining a historical reversion. Humankind has been already where imbeciles like you want to take us. This is not a new effort. These are the same actors who believe the same things looking to suppress once again liberty and prosperity so that they can control you. The only thing that is new this time in the means and methods employed.

Part of that was making you feel alienated from the society who which you're supposed to have loyalty - including our Constitution. They've not 'educated' you; they've indoctrinated you.

You're just a useful idiot to them.


The problem with your statement is that you're just as targeted by it.



That's utter nonsense. The goals are getting Government out of our pockets and our lives. You consider that 'selfish and dishonest' and it's what the majority of Americans have historically desired, and what our Constitution historically protected. You're babbling generalistic nonsense, which is why you gave no examples whatsoever?

Why? Because you know I'll slam your dick in the door in rebuttal.



The Republican Party is 'completely different' because it has become Establishment. You just - effortlessly, and without thought - shifted gears in an intentional attempt to conflate what a Conservative is with what a Republican is.

I have never been a Republican. I have voted Republican most of my life because the particular candidate was the most ideologically aligned with me.

Why don't you go ahead and tell the group what about Conservatives and Conservatism has changed for you?


Just exactly what a useful idiot would say. Before he's harvested.


I'm not looking to give you a compliment. I'm pointing out your core dishonest nature.



Stop the insults. Try to discuss the topic civilly.

[maineman]

I'm not looking to give you a compliment. I'm pointing out your core dishonest nature.

but you called me CLEVER! What joy! What bliss! What validation!!!

[Cletus]

All those things are great.

The problem is that your belief system is not reflective of the core ideology upon which this country was founded, and you're hopelessly and terminally ignorant regarding why.

You've managed to float through your 80 years of life unaware that what this country stands for is anathema to your own held ideology.

Nailed it.

[exploited]

Good God, do I feel bad for America. Don't worry, though. In thirty years, the type of rancid hatred and stupidity being proffered by some here will be gone forever.

[Chris]

Good God, do I feel bad for America. Don't worry, though. In thirty years, the type of rancid hatred and stupidity being proffered by some here will be gone forever.

Then don't do that. :D

[exploited]

Then don't do that. :D

Nope. That's a different type.