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Peter1469
10-18-2016, 05:47 PM
Russia has weaponized the American press (http://www.vox.com/world/2016/10/17/13245200/russia-wikileaks-american-press-democracy)

Vox makes the argument that Russia has weaponized the American press. They make it sound as if the US press is playing into the Russian's hands.


There’s strong evidence (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/27/12271042/donald-trump-russia-putin-hack-explained) that Russia is hacking Hillary Clinton’s allies and handing the private information it steals to WikiLeaks, which promptly makes it public. The goal is to interfere with the US election to help Donald Trump win the presidency or simply to sow chaos that causes Americans to doubt the results.

What hasn’t been talked about is that Vladimir Putin has an unwitting ally: the American media, which is helping him accomplish that very task.


It’s not enough for WikiLeaks to publish hacked emails. Very few ordinary people actually go through raw data dumps. You need media outlets with wide readerships to disseminate the hacked information and to put politically damaging quotes from and about Clinton into newspaper articles and television broadcasts that reach tens of millions of people. If Russia succeeds in disrupting the US election, then it will have only done so because it had the press as its partner.


“It’s not just getting the information; it’s getting it distributed and disseminated widely,” Nicholas Weaver, a senior researcher at UC Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute, explains. “One thing I think is important is for press institutions to recognize when they’re being used.”





This isn’t happening because the American press is pro-Russian. Far from it. Russia is instead playing on the press’s incentives, making it so that the US press has little choice but to go along with its plan.

MMC
10-18-2016, 06:43 PM
Useful idiots is the term I heard. :laugh:

JDubya
10-18-2016, 07:03 PM
So now the GOP game plan is to deflect the blame away from Trump, who is acting in collusion with Russia who in turn controls Assange, by making the press appear at fault for doing their job.

Got it.

MMC
10-18-2016, 07:19 PM
So now the GOP game plan is to deflect the blame away from Trump, who is acting in collusion with Russia who in turn controls Assange, by making the press appear at fault for doing their job.

Got it.


Lets see the link on the Russians control Assange and WikiLeaks. Lets see the Link on Trump is acting in collusion with Russians.

Read the Podesta thread then get back to me.

Peter1469
10-18-2016, 07:24 PM
Vox isn't a GOP news site.

JDubya
10-18-2016, 08:45 PM
Lets see the link on the Russians control Assange and WikiLeaks. Lets see the Link on Trump is acting in collusion with Russians.

Read the Podesta thread then get back to me.

Sure, no problem.

Re: Trump's ties to Russia...

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump's Campaign (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html)

After you read that article, do a Google search for Paul Manager's ties to Russian politics.

Look for a story about the assassination death of a political rival of the Russian who Manafort was working for.

That help you any, MMC?

Peter1469
10-18-2016, 08:46 PM
Hillary has her Russian ties as well. Someone posted on the uranium deals.

MMC
10-21-2016, 06:59 PM
Sure, no problem.

Re: Trump's ties to Russia...

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump's Campaign (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html)

After you read that article, do a Google search for Paul Manager's ties to Russian politics.

Look for a story about the assassination death of a political rival of the Russian who Manafort was working for.

That help you any, @MMC (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=17)?


Nope.....what does that have to do with WikiLeaks and Assange? Answer......not damn thing.

Oh and Trump hardly compares to Clintons Kremlin Connection. Which I have the Podesta thread up and how he and his brother are helping Putin get around BO peeps sanctions. Now there is more. :wink:


Wikileaks: Podesta’s Daughter Received His Shares in Putin-Linked Company.....

An email uncovered in the Wikileaks hacks reveals that Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s “75,000 common shares” — obtained from his membership on the executive board of an energy company, Joule Unlimited, which received millions from a Putin-connected Russian government fund — were transferred to his daughter, Megan Rouse.

“Full transfer request, with Megan’s signature attached,” Podesta’s assistant Eryn Sepp wrote to him.

A January 3, 2014 letter revealed that Podesta designated his revealed that Podesta designated his daughter’s Dublin, California residence as the address for Leonidio Holdings LLC, the Delaware-based holding company that Podesta used to transfer his shares in Russian-related Joule Global Holdings.

Rouse is listed as “managing member” of Leonidio Holdings LLC, according to financial documents.

Two months after Podesta joined the board, Vladimir Putin’s Rusnano announced that it would invest up to one billion rubles into Joule Unlimited, which amounts to $35 million. That represents one-fifth of the entire amount of investment dollars Joule collected from 2007 to 2013,” the GAI report concludes.

Podesta also failed to disclose fully his position on Joule Unlimited’s board of directors and to include it in his federal financial disclosures, as required by law, before he became President Barack Obama’s senior adviser in January 2014.

“Because the holding company is completely anonymous, we do not know whether or not he still has deep financial ties to Vladimir Putin and his regime,” Miller’s statement continued. “As such, Mr. Podesta needs to either reveal who is behind the holding company or he must resign from the Clinton campaign immediately.”.....snip~

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nergy-company/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/20/wikileaks-bombshell-john-podestas-daughter-received-75000-shares-putin-connected-energy-company/)

Tahuyaman
10-21-2016, 08:05 PM
Vox isn't a GOP news site.

speaking of Russia and the media in America, have you seen RTTV? You really need to check it out.

DGUtley
10-21-2016, 08:11 PM
Amazing that the libs ignore Cankles' Russian transgressions.

MRogersNhood
10-21-2016, 08:12 PM
That OP is just about the silliest thing I have ever seen posted.
AP and RT do NOT publish the same material.
And truthfully;One is better off getting news from RT and Vice and other various sources(mental block) than the AP party line lies.
And I'm an American who's family has been in the US since before it was a country.
Who started the lies about "Ghaddafi hurting his own people"?
AP and all Western news outlets;because that's what they were told to do.
The press is lost at this point in time.
Very rarely is there an example of actual journalism.
Mostly they just publish the propaganda they are told to.
Sad but true fact.
Russia has zero control over the Western press.
Who does have control is the Warhawks.Believe that.
Just look at CNN.They lie by omission daily.

Peter1469
10-21-2016, 09:40 PM
That OP is just about the silliest thing I have ever seen posted.
AP and RT do NOT publish the same material.
And truthfully;One is better off getting news from RT and Vice and other various sources(mental block) than the AP party line lies.
And I'm an American who's family has been in the US since before it was a country.
Who started the lies about "Ghaddafi hurting his own people"?
AP and all Western news outlets;because that's what they were told to do.
The press is lost at this point in time.
Very rarely is there an example of actual journalism.
Mostly they just publish the propaganda they are told to.
Sad but true fact.
Russia has zero control over the Western press.
Who does have control is the Warhawks.Believe that.
Just look at CNN.They lie by omission daily.

:shocked:

MRogersNhood
10-21-2016, 09:43 PM
:shocked:

All true,mister.
PS: "Vox" is part of the Western propaganda circle.

AZ Jim
10-21-2016, 10:19 PM
All true,mister.
PS: "Vox" is part of the Western propaganda circle.


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Beevee
10-21-2016, 10:40 PM
That OP is just about the silliest thing I have ever seen posted.
AP and RT do NOT publish the same material.
And truthfully;One is better off getting news from RT and Vice and other various sources(mental block) than the AP party line lies.
And I'm an American who's family has been in the US since before it was a country.
Who started the lies about "Ghaddafi hurting his own people"?
AP and all Western news outlets;because that's what they were told to do.
The press is lost at this point in time.
Very rarely is there an example of actual journalism.
Mostly they just publish the propaganda they are told to.
Sad but true fact.
Russia has zero control over the Western press.
Who does have control is the Warhawks.Believe that.
Just look at CNN.They lie by omission daily.

You have pre-Columbian heritage?
I presume you speak Spanish then.
That's interesting!

MRogersNhood
10-22-2016, 02:19 AM
You have pre-Columbian heritage?
I presume you speak Spanish then.
That's interesting!
Actually post-Columbian.

FindersKeepers
10-22-2016, 05:02 AM
You have pre-Columbian heritage?
I presume you speak Spanish then.
That's interesting!

The United States wasn't a "country" until 1776. Pre-Columbian precedes the date of Columbus voyage -- 1492.

You've lost nearly three centuries somewhere. :wink: