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del
10-19-2016, 03:16 PM
i know that in kansas they have an ongoing experiment to bring the state back to the good old days, but when the solicitor-general cites the dred scott decision as one of the reasons that the state government should have a say in what the ladies do with their lady parts, it may be time to think it over.



In 2015, Kansas passed SB95 (http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2015_16/measures/documents/sb95_enrolled.pdf), a stringent law banning the method of abortion most commonly used after the first trimester. Following an inevitable lawsuit, the Kansas Court of Appeals concluded (https://rewire.news/article/2016/01/22/appeals-court-kansas-constitution-protects-right-abortion/) that the Kansas Constitution protects a woman’s right to terminate her pregnancy and invalidated the law. Now the state is appealing that decision to the Kansas Supreme Court—and its solicitor general is defending the law (http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/Hodes-Nauser-III-KSC-Response-Brief-to-ACLU-amicus-10-18-final.pdf) by approvingly citing Dred Scott v. Sandford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford).


(http://www.slate.com/authors.mark_stern.html)
(http://www.slate.com/authors.mark_stern.html)A little background: Section 1 of the Kansas Constitution guarantees that “all men are possessed of equal and inalienable natural rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” This language is drawn directly from the Declaration of Independence—much like Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which protects the right to an abortion. An amicus brief (http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/briefs/Hodes_Nauser_v_Schmidt_Amicus_Final.pdf) by the American Civil Liberties Union of Kansas and the Constitutional Accountability Center argues that because the 14th Amendment guarantees abortion rights, the Kansas Constitution must, as well. As the brief explains:



Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment was designed to incorporate the promises contained in the Declaration of Independence and guarantee the full scope of substantive fundamental rights and equality in line with the Declaration’s promise. Section 1 of the Kansas Constitution, which was also adopted to guarantee the Declaration’s promises to the people of Kansas and even used the same language contained in the Declaration, should be interpreted to provide protection for substantive fundamental rights that is at least as strong as that provided by the Fourteenth Amendment.
And those rights include protection against a law that “substantially burdens a woman’s right to enjoy personal autonomy and bodily integrity.” In other words, a law like SB95.

But Kansas disagrees. In his brief (http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/Hodes-Nauser-III-KSC-Response-Brief-to-ACLU-amicus-10-18-final.pdf), Solicitor General Stephen R. McAllister insists that this argument is flawed because “[c]ourts across the country have recognized that ‘[t]he Declaration of Independence is a statement of ideals, not law.’ ” Thus, the Kansas Constitution’s adoption of the declaration’s language provides no fundamental rights to Kansas residents—certainly not the right to an abortion. To support this proposition, McAllister cites, among other cases, Dred Scott, explaining that the decision described “the Declaration’s description of unalienable rights as merely ‘general words used in that memorable instrument’ and [held] that the Declaration did not have a legally binding effect.”

dred scott? dredd fucking scott?!?

link to article and brief below

i'll eagerly await responses from the usual suspects

dred scott

damn

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/19/kansas_cites_dred_scott_to_explain_why_it_can_ban_ abortion.html

http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/Hodes-Nauser-III-KSC-Response-Brief-to-ACLU-amicus-10-18-final.pdf

Cigar
10-19-2016, 03:27 PM
The sound of Dinosaurs dying off into oblivion :laugh:

AZ Jim
10-19-2016, 03:29 PM
Kansas with thanks to Brownback and his enablers is on it's way to the title of the most backward state in the union.

texan
10-19-2016, 04:14 PM
i know that in kansas they have an ongoing experiment to bring the state back to the good old days, but when the solicitor-general cites the dred scott decision as one of the reasons that the state government should have a say in what the ladies do with their lady parts, it may be time to think it over.



dred scott? dredd $#@!ing scott?!?

link to article and brief below

i'll eagerly await responses from the usual suspects

dred scott

damn

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/19/kansas_cites_dred_scott_to_explain_why_it_can_ban_ abortion.html

http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/Hodes-Nauser-III-KSC-Response-Brief-to-ACLU-amicus-10-18-final.pdf

Really Del? This is all about what women do with their girly parts? Thats it?

Sad. I am not a an abortion snob nor is it a high priority but to boil it down that that is really sad.

Green Arrow
10-19-2016, 04:29 PM
Dred Scott?

Damn, Kansas...

Common Sense
10-19-2016, 04:52 PM
I was having a fun time in Colby Kansas once. Once the night went on I finally realized I was partying with some pretty racist good old boys. That was the last time I was in Colby.

Bethere
10-19-2016, 06:34 PM
I was having a fun time in Colby Kansas once. Once the night went on I finally realized I was partying with some pretty racist good old boys. That was the last time I was in Colby.

As sad as dred scott was, and as backwards kansas is, the coolest soloist in jazz history comes from Kansas City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRXxdjsGesw

Common Sense
10-19-2016, 06:38 PM
As sad as dred scott was, and as backwards kansas is, the coolest soloist in jazz history comes from Kansas City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRXxdjsGesw

Kansas City is in Missouri. ;)

Bethere
10-19-2016, 06:42 PM
Kansas City is in Missouri. ;)Kansas City is also one of the largest cities in the god forsaken state of Kansas. Now you know.

16429

exploited
10-19-2016, 06:48 PM
You can distinguish the two Kansas City's by the state flag they fly at town hall.

Kansas City, Missouri

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flag_of_Missouri.svg/2400px-Flag_of_Missouri.svg.png

Kansas City, Kansas

http://www.warstore.co.uk/ekmps/shops/marlina/images/german-ww2-nazi-5-x-3-flag-1494-p.jpg

Bethere
10-19-2016, 07:02 PM
You can distinguish the two Kansas City's by the state flag they fly at town hall.

Kansas City, Missouri


No lie. If you drive I-70 the width of Kansas you'll experience nothing but flatness. They put curves in the road just to vary the experience and keep drivers awake.

No doubt this drive is what drove so many touring musicians to drug abuse.

I heartily endorse the conspiracy log, btw.

Common Sense
10-19-2016, 07:04 PM
Kansas City is also one of the largest cities in the god forsaken state of Kansas. Now you know.



Oh that's right...my mistake. I've only been to the one in Missouri.

del
10-19-2016, 07:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8tZO97uhyE

Crepitus
10-19-2016, 08:18 PM
i know that in kansas they have an ongoing experiment to bring the state back to the good old days, but when the solicitor-general cites the dred scott decision as one of the reasons that the state government should have a say in what the ladies do with their lady parts, it may be time to think it over.



dred scott? dredd fucking scott?!?

link to article and brief below

i'll eagerly await responses from the usual suspects

dred scott

damn

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/19/kansas_cites_dred_scott_to_explain_why_it_can_ban_ abortion.html

http://theusconstitution.org/sites/default/files/Hodes-Nauser-III-KSC-Response-Brief-to-ACLU-amicus-10-18-final.pdf

Wow. Citing a case that has not only soundly condemned as one of the worst supreme court decisions ever but has been superceded by constitutional amendment as support for anything is just..... wow.

del
10-19-2016, 08:20 PM
Wow. Citing a case that has not only soundly condemned as one of the worst supreme court decisions ever but has been superceded by constitutional amendment as support for anything is just..... wow.

yeah, pretty much

Crepitus
10-19-2016, 11:40 PM
del. Texted a friend that happens to be an assistant solicited general and he says that was done by an outside agency they had retained to write it. They are shaking their heads just like we are reportedly.

And asking why they paid these guys so much.

del
10-19-2016, 11:57 PM
@del (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=770). Texted a friend that happens to be an assistant solicited general and he says that was done by an outside agency they had retained to write it. They are shaking their heads just like we are reportedly.

And asking why they paid these guys so much.


unreal

a lot of times when i pay someone to do work, i check what they've done before i pay them.

you can pass that along if you want :)