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AZ Jim
10-19-2016, 11:45 PM
CNN Poll: Clinton 52 Trump 39.

Bethere
10-19-2016, 11:49 PM
CNN Poll: Clinton 52 Trump 39. good times!

TrueBlue
10-19-2016, 11:59 PM
Clinton literally smashed Trump during the final debate. She had him sweating and drinking water like crazy. Oh, and also sniffing! :)

AZ Jim
10-20-2016, 12:07 AM
He had no answer so many times too. I especially liked her nailing him on using illegals on his buildings, paying them less than agreed upon then threatened immigration if they complained. What a dick he is.

Bethere
10-20-2016, 12:08 AM
Clinton literally smashed Trump during the final debate. She had him sweating and drinking water like crazy. Oh, and also sniffing! :)

All of the people who were saying trump would clobber Hillary in the debates were spectacular flame outs, huh?

Docthehun
10-20-2016, 04:48 AM
The bookies have the election odds at 87/13. Follow the money.

PolWatch
10-20-2016, 06:48 AM
Looks like the Irish bookies think Clinton is the winner:

'Paddy Power, an Irish company that operates a chain of betting shops across the United Kingdom, is so confident that Hillary Clinton (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/whitehouse/hillary-clinton.htm) will win the election in three weeks' time that it is already paying out winnings to customers who bet in favor of the Democratic presidential nominee.


According to Paddy Power spokesman Féilim Mac An Iomaire, the company is making payments to about 6,000 customers. The average person will be collecting about $170, he told ABC News by phone from Dublin, Ireland (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/ireland.htm). '

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/irish-bookies-confident-clinton-win-paying/story?id=42891339

Peter1469
10-20-2016, 07:02 AM
There at least three major areas where Trump missed responses:
1. Wikileaks: "I don't know Putin; the US should work with Russia against ISIL. But why ask me about Putin and not tell us how the documents released are not genuine? They show real corruption in America. More spin from the hard left.
2. Whining: That was said about Bernie Sanders- Wikileaks shows he was correct. A few people resigned over that scandal, but it was not enough.
3. The election is rigged: Why are you asking me this question as if it has never happened before. Al Gore (https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-gore-refuses-concede-election-demands-recount-ensu)contested the election in 2000. Even when he had no constitutional way to win. (There is a NYTs article (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/us/examining-vote-overview-study-disputed-florida-ballots-finds-justices-did-not.html) that confirms my statement.); to add to it:
We also learned that the democrats have been busing people across state lines to vote illegally for the last 20 years or longer. Democratic operatives caught on tape.

Safety
10-20-2016, 07:17 AM
Al Gore didn't go into the election saying it was rigged, it was only after the results were tallied.

Peter1469
10-20-2016, 07:26 AM
He was full of crap. An outright lie to hold up the process. See previously referenced articles.

Safety
10-20-2016, 07:38 AM
Probably, but at least he waited until the vote concluded and didn't try to preempt the process.

Cigar
10-20-2016, 08:00 AM
CNN Poll: Clinton 52 Trump 39.


The 2016 Race Is Overhttps://images.newrepublic.com/51dfd43537059fb00f2627eed021e001fd151db2.jpeg?w=10 00&q=65&dpi=1&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces&h=667

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump confirmed everything we already knew about them: She is presidential. He is not.https://newrepublic.com/article/137974/2016-presidential-race-clinton-trump-over

Cigar
10-20-2016, 08:08 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvKmJULWAAAw2km.jpg

Peter1469
10-20-2016, 08:49 AM
Algore refused to accept the election results. And he had no knowledge of previous voter fraud.

We now know democrats have been using voter fraud for 20 years. Likely much longer. JFK's dad is famous for saying he was not paying for a landslide. Just a win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Newpublius
10-20-2016, 08:52 AM
Algore refused to accept the election results. And he had no knowledge of previous voter fraud.

We now know democrats have been using voter fraud for 20 years. Likely much longer. JFK's dad is famous for saying he was not paying for a landslide. Just a win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Government lies to us constantly. Hillary's husband rapes the legitimacy of the judicial system by getting on the plane with Loretta, wars, torture, $19tn debts.....and somehow the government-held election is PRESUMPTIVELY valid......Yeah, I don't think so, government has LOST the benefit of the doubt.

Somehow the Establishment is ABOVE this chicanery?

I know I wouldn't do it, I'm not so sure about these people, and if I were the Democrats I wouldn't be so sure Republicans aren't doing it either.

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 08:54 AM
That debate just reaffirmed my position that neither Clinton or Trump is worthy of being elected POTUS.

Chris
10-20-2016, 09:06 AM
No one won, we will lose.

Newpublius
10-20-2016, 09:13 AM
No one won, we will lose.

I would actually say the debate format is infotainment. They really should have more detailed opinion pieces that are just written.....with rebuttal, ie.....Wallace poses a question, candidate can respond in detail......and be rebutted, or have other peolple write about it.

I don't even watch them because I view it as pure political theater.

Chris
10-20-2016, 09:17 AM
I would actually say the debate format is infotainment. They really should have more detailed opinion pieces that are just written.....with rebuttal, ie.....Wallace poses a question, candidate can respond in detail......and be rebutted, or have other peolple write about it.

I don't even watch them because I view it as pure political theater.


I tuned in at the last question on debt, to Trump's machine metaphor and Clinton computer program metaphor. Outdated and wrong.

Written answers and rebuttals would be more interesting. Create a forum for it. :D

The Xl
10-20-2016, 09:25 AM
The Clinton News Network said Clinton won? No way......

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 09:35 AM
The Clinton News Network said Clinton won? No way......

Even Fox admits Trump blew it.

Do you really think he won???

Beevee
10-20-2016, 09:47 AM
Even Fox admits Trump blew it.

Do you really think he won???

They are probably realigning as the conservative opposition to the impending Trump News Channel, by divesting themselves from the basket of deplorables in favour of a reformed GOP viewing base.

Cigar
10-20-2016, 10:39 AM
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/161020-four-more-years_zpsyrjay7qm.jpg

Safety
10-20-2016, 10:41 AM
I wonder what the autopsy will have in it this time...will they elect a woman to head the RNC?

Bethere
10-20-2016, 10:43 AM
I wonder what the autopsy will have in it this time...will they elect a woman to head the RNC?
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Safety
10-20-2016, 10:44 AM
Ok, that is just disturbing.

Bethere
10-20-2016, 10:46 AM
Ok, that is just disturbing.
I aim to please!

Cigar
10-20-2016, 10:53 AM
I aim to please!


Reminds me ... I have this in my Basement Washroom :laugh:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/519oZ9GsmxL.jpg (https://www.amazon.com/keep-this-bathroom-clean-Gentlemen/dp/B0089P2LV4)

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 11:22 AM
No one won, we will lose.


Just like the past debates. If you are a Trump fan, you heard what you wanted to hear and will claim victory.

If you are a Clinton fan, you heard what you wanted to hear and will claim victory.

If you support neither or were undecided, you still support neither or are still undecided.

The fact remains that the majority in the country don't trust either one of those two buffoons.

AZ Jim
10-20-2016, 11:22 AM
The Clinton News Network said Clinton won? No way......CNN said no such thing and those who are at least somewhat intelligent understand those are POLL results, the people not the network.

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 11:53 AM
Are liberals really touting the objectivity of a CNN focus group poll?

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 11:54 AM
Are liberals really touting the objectivity of a CNN focus group poll?

Are you really trying to say he won the debate?

Newpublius
10-20-2016, 11:56 AM
Are liberals really touting the objectivity of a CNN focus group poll?

What's really wonderful about liberal minds is their uncanny ability to recognize bias in conservative source, but their utter lack of insight into the bias of liberal media sources.

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 12:01 PM
Are you really trying to say he won the debate?

where did you get that idea? You know where I stand on that one. If you don't, scroll back and see.


Now, are liberals really touting the objectivity of a CNN focus group poll?

Cigar
10-20-2016, 12:04 PM
The only Results that matter is the one on November 9th ... all else is Guess Work.

nic34
10-20-2016, 12:08 PM
http://archive.azcentral.com/persistent/icimages/politics/octpollpresident10192016.png

Even Obama didn't win here....

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 12:10 PM
where did you get that idea? You know where I stand on that one. If you don't, scroll back and see.


Now, are liberals really touting the objectivity of a CNN focus group poll?

CNN openly admits that this poll was of viewers only and that it was slightly biased for Dems.

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 12:10 PM
Here's a poll result I'll bet partisan Democrats will dismiss as being biased



The question was Who won the third debate.

Thank you for voting!



TRUMP 86.73% (585,908 votes)


CLINTON 13.27% (89,660 votes)


Total Votes: 675,568





Return To Poll

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 12:12 PM
Here's a poll result I'll bet partisan Democrats will dismiss as being biased



The question was Who won the third debate.

Thank you for voting!



TRUMP 86.73% (585,908 votes)


CLINTON 13.27% (89,660 votes)


Total Votes: 675,568





Return To Poll










From where?

Online polls are pretty silly. I can vote in them and I can do it multiple times...

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 12:13 PM
CNN openly admits that this poll was of viewers only and that it was slightly biased for Dems.


Actually, it wa a CNN focus group poll.

Cigar
10-20-2016, 12:13 PM
Here's a poll result I'll bet partisan Democrats will dismiss as being biased



The question was Who won the third debate.

Thank you for voting!



TRUMP 86.73% (585,908 votes)


CLINTON 13.27% (89,660 votes)


Total Votes: 675,568





Return To Poll











Sure I accept it, Trump Won The Debate; Congratulations ... see you November 9th

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 12:15 PM
In the end, polls don't really matter.

The fact is that Trump was trounced for the third time and that will conclusion will be validated in November.

He just can't help himself. He has no self control. He hands these debates to Clinton. That speaks volumes as to his qualifications.

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 12:16 PM
Actually, it wa a CNN focus group poll.

I don't think that's accurate. The CNN poll I saw was of viewers only and they showed the demographics.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/hillary-clinton-wins-third-presidential-debate-according-to-cnn-orc-poll/index.html

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 12:30 PM
Just like the past debates. If you are a Trump fan, you heard what you wanted to hear and will claim victory.

If you are a Clinton fan, you heard what you wanted to hear and will claim victory.

If you support neither or were undecided, you still support neither or are still undecided.

The fact remains that the majority in the country don't trust either one of those two buffoons.


In the end, polls don't really matter.

The fact is that Trump was trounced for the third time and that will conclusion will be validated in November.

He just can't help himself. He has no self control. He hands these debates to Clinton. That speaks volumes as to his qualifications.


Trump supportrs will say Trump won. Clinton supporters will say Clinton won.

The fact that Hillary Clinton didn't vapor lock on stage is a good thing for her. The fact that Trump never stormed off is a good thing for him.

These debates have done nothing but demonstrate clearly that no matter which one wins, we all lose. Principled people support neither one. The majority is not supporting either one.

Cigar
10-20-2016, 12:31 PM
Trump's own Mouth cost him this Election ... no one else.

TrueBlue
10-20-2016, 12:34 PM
http://archive.azcentral.com/persistent/icimages/politics/octpollpresident10192016.png

Even Obama didn't win here....
Very, very very telling as to who Arizonians see as being the true leader and the next President of the United States! Thanks Arizona for selecting your next president. You're awesome!!

TrueBlue
10-20-2016, 12:36 PM
Trump's own Mouth cost him this Election ... no one else.
http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/remake/tomato.gif

Newpublius
10-20-2016, 12:38 PM
Trump's own Mouth cost him this Election ... no one else.

There's no question he seriously hamstrung his own chances.

Common Sense
10-20-2016, 12:39 PM
Listen to this shitstain...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaU3Otw__h0

Tahuyaman
10-20-2016, 12:40 PM
It's not his mouth. The majority doesn't trust or support him because he has no command of the issues a president is forced to confront.

The majority can't support his opponant because of her obvious character flaws and they don't know where she really stands on the important issues.

People don't trust either one.

AZ Jim
10-20-2016, 12:48 PM
I would actually say the debate format is infotainment. They really should have more detailed opinion pieces that are just written.....with rebuttal, ie.....Wallace poses a question, candidate can respond in detail......and be rebutted, or have other peolple write about it.

I don't even watch them because I view it as pure political theater.Ignorance is bliss.

bdtex
10-20-2016, 01:57 PM
He did well the first 30 mins but I think she owned the final hour. Not to say he didn't have moments in the last hour.

Cletus
10-20-2016, 01:57 PM
Ignorance is bliss.

You must be one blissful individual.

AZ Jim
10-20-2016, 01:59 PM
You must be one blissful individual. Troll.

Docthehun
10-20-2016, 03:21 PM
I'd say it was Trump's best performance, but the bar was pretty low to start and any ground he could have made was lost to the major stumbles he seemingly can't avoid. His mouth is way faster than his brain and what he can get away with on reality TV doesn't translate to a nationwide audience. She's sharp and figured out ahead of time that women's issues are one of his biggest soft spots. So that's where she concentrated her sharpest responses and while I can't see things through the eyes of a woman, I strongly suspect she hit a homerun with a majority.

But there's still almost three weeks to go and given the current climate, I'm not ruling anything in or out. We'll see.

I'm a numbers guy and I hate to say it, but Trump's economic plan doesn't come close to passing the sniff test. Ignoring the impossibility of more than doubling GDP, his job numbers, 25 million over ten years is probably worse than the President's. It works out to a little over 208 thousand jobs a month, which according to some of my fellow Republicans, is an anemic number in terms of how we've rated the performance of the President. It simply can't be great if it's Trump's, but pitiful under the current administration. 208,000 is 208,000.

In the eyes of another:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-cruz-was-right-trump-was-no-match-for-clinton-at-the-debates/2016/10/20/b6bda5cc-960e-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html

ripmeister
10-20-2016, 11:33 PM
There at least three major areas where Trump missed responses:
1. Wikileaks: "I don't know Putin; the US should work with Russia against ISIL. But why ask me about Putin and not tell us how the documents released are not genuine? They show real corruption in America. More spin from the hard left.
2. Whining: That was said about Bernie Sanders- Wikileaks shows he was correct. A few people resigned over that scandal, but it was not enough.
3. The election is rigged: Why are you asking me this question as if it has never happened before. Al Gore (https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-gore-refuses-concede-election-demands-recount-ensu)contested the election in 2000. Even when he had no constitutional way to win. (There is a NYTs article (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/us/examining-vote-overview-study-disputed-florida-ballots-finds-justices-did-not.html) that confirms my statement.); to add to it:
We also learned that the democrats have been busing people across state lines to vote illegally for the last 20 years or longer. Democratic operatives caught on tape.

Actually wasn't that case Bush vs Gore

ripmeister
10-20-2016, 11:36 PM
I would actually say the debate format is infotainment. They really should have more detailed opinion pieces that are just written.....with rebuttal, ie.....Wallace poses a question, candidate can respond in detail......and be rebutted, or have other peolple write about it.

I don't even watch them because I view it as pure political theater.

true for the most part but,they do,show us how one does under fire and IMO there is some value in that.

ripmeister
10-20-2016, 11:41 PM
Here's a poll result I'll bet partisan Democrats will dismiss as being biased



The question was Who won the third debate.

Thank you for voting!



TRUMP 86.73% (585,908 votes)


CLINTON 13.27% (89,660 votes)


Total Votes: 675,568





Return To Poll










Drudge?

ripmeister
10-20-2016, 11:43 PM
Trump supportrs will say Trump won. Clinton supporters will say Clinton won.

The fact that Hillary Clinton didn't vapor lock on stage is a good thing for her. The fact that Trump never stormed off is a good thing for him.

These debates have done nothing but demonstrate clearly that no matter which one wins, we all lose. Principled people support neither one. The majority is not supporting either one.

I object! I have principles.