PDA

View Full Version : 44% of White Evangelicals Claim ‘Trump Has Strong Moral Character’



Cigar
10-25-2016, 07:53 AM
Not The Onion!! :biglaugh:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/10/44-of-white-evangelicals-claim-trump-has-strong-moral-character/

Many white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates strong moral character.

A new poll shows 44% of white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates “strong moral character,” while only 18% of those with no religion agree.

A recent ABC/WaPo poll confirms what many have long suspected concerning the moral judgement of evangelicals, or lack thereof.

Noting the irony of white evangelicals claiming a man who openly brags about sexually assaulting women has strong moral character, Politico reporter Dan Diamond tweeted out the results of the poll:

Crepitus
10-25-2016, 08:07 AM
Trump, like most uber rich people, wouldn't know a moral if it bit him on the ass.

MRogersNhood
10-25-2016, 08:42 AM
Reading between the lines:This means Trump will have the "Moral Majority" vote.
Something Romney did not get.

Safety
10-25-2016, 09:01 AM
93% of blacks don't think Clinton lies, so take numbers only as far as you can throw them.

AZ Jim
10-25-2016, 09:21 AM
Why I think organized religion is not for me.

ripmeister
10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
Reading between the lines:This means Trump will have the "Moral Majority" vote.
Something Romney did not get.

Which says it all. I didn't agree with a lot of the Mittsters positions but his morality was unquestionable. Problem with a lot of the convenient Christians was he was a Mormon. :sad:

MRogersNhood
10-25-2016, 06:49 PM
Which says it all. I didn't agree with a lot of the Mittsters positions but his morality was unquestionable. Problem with a lot of the convenient Christians was he was a Mormon. :sad:
This is true and they did not turn out.

Bethere
10-25-2016, 09:25 PM
This is true and they did not turn out.

Nonsense.

More Republicans voted in 2012 than any other election in American history. Record turnout.

Wake up.

Beevee
10-25-2016, 09:41 PM
What do the remaining 56% think?

Croft
10-25-2016, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZ3C9nTFJA

Well hopefully not what predictable Hollywood asses tell them to think. As these people make clear.

MRogersNhood
10-25-2016, 10:37 PM
^ That's a great ad!

AZ Jim
10-25-2016, 10:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZ3C9nTFJA

Well hopefully not what predictable Hollywood asses tell them to think. As these people make clear.Funny how the last two weeks before this election we get so many new members, eh?

Croft
10-26-2016, 12:12 AM
It is perplexing. I for one can't fathom how the most stimulating election in decades could prompt many people to become new members of a Political Forum, especially as it hots up in it's closing phase. To be honest I'm stumped.

Beevee
10-26-2016, 06:27 PM
It is perplexing. I for one can't fathom how the most stimulating election in decades could prompt many people to become new members of a Political Forum, especially as it hots up in it's closing phase. To be honest I'm stumped.

Probably been kicked off all the other forums that don't tolerate verbal violence.

Beevee
10-26-2016, 06:30 PM
Double post

Croft
10-26-2016, 09:47 PM
Probably been kicked off all the other forums that don't tolerate verbal violence.
There's plenty of "violence" here. People who support Trump seem to be called stupid pretty regularly.
The moment I joined I was called a sock puppet and it didn't stop. All I've done is fend that off and return some of the attitude. Maybe I've been a bit strong in that and maybe I'll chill.
But I've never been on this forum before for the record and I'm not the kind to follow posters round hassling them either.
But anyway. Everyone enjoy the election.

PolWatch
10-26-2016, 10:11 PM
I think there are many Christians that object to Trump on moral grounds....they just don't publicly take a stand like these students:

'More than 2,000 students at the top US evangelical Christian university, Liberty, have come out against Donald Trump despite the Republican nominee having been controversially backed by the university's own president, Jerry Falwell Jr.
<snip>
"While our president Jerry Falwell Jr. tours the country championing the log in his eye, we want the world to know how many students oppose him. We don't want to champion Donald Trump; we want only to be champions for Christ."
<snip>
"Trump's flagrant dishonesty, consistent misogyny and boastful unrepentance made many of us feel the need to publicly express disagreement with President Falwell's endorsement."
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/more.than.2000.christian.students.at.liberty.unive rsity.oppose.trump/98897.htm?print=1

Cigar
10-26-2016, 10:15 PM
93% of blacks don't think Clinton lies, so take numbers only as far as you can throw them.

I think she lied ... just like 99% of All Politicians. But she is not an Idiot Moron like Trump. :tongue:

Croft
10-27-2016, 07:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1tWx_im8w

Even Michael Moore has done a bit of waking up. Good to see the huge Trump crowds compared to the anemic turn outs for Hillary. Pity the Clinton campaign media doesn't like to show them.

Adelaide
10-27-2016, 08:05 AM
Evangelicals are pretty crazy. Not sure that I would consider their opinion very valid, in general. They also think Harry Potter is the devil incarnate, so...

resister
10-27-2016, 09:17 AM
93% of blacks don't think Clinton lies, so take numbers only as far as you can throw them.
Where on earth did these figures come from?If I was black I would resent that.

resister
10-27-2016, 09:21 AM
Not The Onion!! :biglaugh:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/10/44-of-white-evangelicals-claim-trump-has-strong-moral-character/

Many white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates strong moral character.

A new poll shows 44% of white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates “strong moral character,” while only 18% of those with no religion agree.

A recent ABC/WaPo poll confirms what many have long suspected concerning the moral judgement of evangelicals, or lack thereof.

Noting the irony of white evangelicals claiming a man who openly brags about sexually assaulting women has strong moral character, Politico reporter Dan Diamond tweeted out the results of the poll: yeah Shillary definitely has the moral high ground ,what with paying that skank miley cyrus to pander to the millineal vote

IMPress Polly
10-27-2016, 09:33 AM
Here is the strong moral and Christian character I see exhibited by the Republican nominee: he has...

-committed business fraud many, many times,
-engaged in bribery,
-evaded taxation for decades at a time,
-engaged in housing discrimination,
-fostered connections with the Mafia (yes!),
-incited violence at his rallies,
-attempted to illegally take campaign donations from foreign governments,
-owned casinos, a beauty pageant, and a strip club,
-appeared in a pornographic movie (fully-clothed, of course),
-sexually assaulted at least 11 women,
-sexually harassed innumerable women,
-lies an estimated 70% of the time he speaks (stat courtesy of PolitiFact),
-manifestly knows nothing about the Bible and says he has never asked God to forgive him for anything because he's too perfect to need forgiveness

If that counts as strong moral and Christian character to today's Christians, let me suggest that that's a pretty good argument against Christianity. It kinda proves that they never really cared about any of that "family values" stuff to begin with.

ripmeister
10-27-2016, 09:46 AM
Here is the strong moral and Christian character I see exhibited by the Republican nominee: he has...

-committed business fraud many, many times,
-engaged in bribery,
-evaded taxation for decades at a time,
-engaged in housing discrimination,
-fostered connections with the Mafia (yes!),
-incited violence at his rallies,
-attempted to illegally take campaign donations from foreign governments,
-owned casinos, a beauty pageant, and a strip club,
-appeared in a pornographic movie (fully-clothed, of course),
-sexually assaulted at least 11 women,
-sexually harassed innumerable women,
-lies an estimated 70% of the time he speaks (stat courtesy of PolitiFact),
-manifestly knows nothing about the Bible and says he has never asked God to forgive him for anything because he's too perfect to need forgiveness

If that counts as strong moral and Christian character to today's Christians, let me suggest that that's a pretty good argument against Christianity. It kinda proves that they never really cared about any of that "family values" stuff to begin with.

I refer to these types as Convenient Christians. They wear their Christianity when its convenient and supportive of their cause yet closet it when things don't look so good. Sometimes its hard to live a Christlike life. Most talk a good game yet when it comes time to put up or shut up they don't, especially the self-righteous among us.

Subdermal
10-27-2016, 11:38 AM
Here is the strong moral and Christian character I see exhibited by the Republican nominee: he has...

-committed business fraud many, many times,
-engaged in bribery,
-evaded taxation for decades at a time,
-engaged in housing discrimination,
-fostered connections with the Mafia (yes!),
-incited violence at his rallies,
-attempted to illegally take campaign donations from foreign governments,
-owned casinos, a beauty pageant, and a strip club,
-appeared in a pornographic movie (fully-clothed, of course),
-sexually assaulted at least 11 women,
-sexually harassed innumerable women,
-lies an estimated 70% of the time he speaks (stat courtesy of PolitiFact),
-manifestly knows nothing about the Bible and says he has never asked God to forgive him for anything because he's too perfect to need forgiveness

If that counts as strong moral and Christian character to today's Christians, let me suggest that that's a pretty good argument against Christianity. It kinda proves that they never really cared about any of that "family values" stuff to begin with.

You're a Communist. Communists have killed 100 million people.

Your moral outrage - particularly laughable, as it is based upon largely contrived and unsubstantiated nonsense - is dismissed.

exploited
10-27-2016, 11:40 AM
You're a Communist. Communists have killed 100 million people.

Your moral outrage - particularly laughable, as it is based upon largely contrived and unsubstantiated nonsense - is dismissed.

:rollseyes:

del
10-27-2016, 04:29 PM
i always enjoy it when the derpster speaks ex cathedra

DGUtley
10-27-2016, 04:45 PM
Here is the strong moral and Christian character I see exhibited by the Republican nominee: he has...

-committed business fraud many, many times,
-engaged in bribery,
-evaded taxation for decades at a time,
-engaged in housing discrimination,
-fostered connections with the Mafia (yes!),
-incited violence at his rallies,
-attempted to illegally take campaign donations from foreign governments,
-owned casinos, a beauty pageant, and a strip club,
-appeared in a pornographic movie (fully-clothed, of course),
-sexually assaulted at least 11 women,
-sexually harassed innumerable women,
-lies an estimated 70% of the time he speaks (stat courtesy of PolitiFact),
-manifestly knows nothing about the Bible and says he has never asked God to forgive him for anything because he's too perfect to need forgiveness

If that counts as strong moral and Christian character to today's Christians, let me suggest that that's a pretty good argument against Christianity. It kinda proves that they never really cared about any of that "family values" stuff to begin with.

You state things as facts.

Business fraud -- citation of conviction / judgments please.
Engaged in bribery -- citation of conviction / judgments please.
Evaded taxation for decades -- citation of conviction / judgments please.
Engaged in housing discrimination -- citation of conviction / judgments please.
Fostered connections with the mafia -- citation of RICO conviction / RICO judgments please.

.....

YOU GET THE PICTURE....

DGUtley
10-27-2016, 04:46 PM
. . . . its hard to live a Christlike life.

The journey is difficult. We strive. We fail. We get up and strive some more.

maineman
10-27-2016, 09:20 PM
You're a Communist. Communists have killed 100 million people.

Your moral outrage - particularly laughable, as it is based upon largely contrived and unsubstantiated nonsense - is dismissed.

"dismissed" by beanie boy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

gfy*


* "google for yourself"

maineman
10-27-2016, 09:20 PM
The journey is difficult. We strive. We fail. We get up and strive some more.

and you can forgive unrepentant pussy grabbing along with the best of them. Praise Jesus!

TrueBlue
10-27-2016, 09:24 PM
Not The Onion!! :biglaugh:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/10/44-of-white-evangelicals-claim-trump-has-strong-moral-character/

Many white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates strong moral character.

A new poll shows 44% of white evangelicals believe Trump demonstrates “strong moral character,” while only 18% of those with no religion agree.

A recent ABC/WaPo poll confirms what many have long suspected concerning the moral judgement of evangelicals, or lack thereof.

Noting the irony of white evangelicals claiming a man who openly brags about sexually assaulting women has strong moral character, Politico reporter Dan Diamond tweeted out the results of the poll:
Oh they do, do they? http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC-hysterical.gif So they think the talk about grabbing women, etc. is OK, it's alright then? Amazing! Very telling about those folks then. Very telling and speaks volumes about their inner core beliefs, imho.

birddog
10-27-2016, 09:28 PM
Lies about Trump that are perpetrated by the lesbian Hillary Clinton are not impressive, and Hillary's enabling of Slick Willies's sexual crimes are worse than the lies about Trump!

maineman
10-27-2016, 09:49 PM
Steve-oh! the SSI check came through again so you could pay your ISP. Welcome back.

resister
10-28-2016, 08:14 AM
Here is the strong moral and Christian character I see exhibited by the Republican nominee: he has...

-committed business fraud many, many times,
-engaged in bribery,
-evaded taxation for decades at a time,
-engaged in housing discrimination,
-fostered connections with the Mafia (yes!),
-incited violence at his rallies,
-attempted to illegally take campaign donations from foreign governments,
-owned casinos, a beauty pageant, and a strip club,
-appeared in a pornographic movie (fully-clothed, of course),
-sexually assaulted at least 11 women,
-sexually harassed innumerable women,
-lies an estimated 70% of the time he speaks (stat courtesy of PolitiFact),
-manifestly knows nothing about the Bible and says he has never asked God to forgive him for anything because he's too perfect to need forgiveness

If that counts as strong moral and Christian character to today's Christians, let me suggest that that's a pretty good argument against Christianity. It kinda proves that they never really cared about any of that "family values" stuff to begin with. What a load...I noticed a distinck lack of any sources quoted

Cthulhu
10-28-2016, 10:19 PM
Which says it all. I didn't agree with a lot of the Mittsters positions but his morality was unquestionable. Problem with a lot of the convenient Christians was he was a Mormon. :sad:
I didn't like mittens. I'm LDS. He was moral, but his policies and political outlook was certainly not for me.

Fear profits a man nothing.

patrickt
10-29-2016, 05:57 AM
I have yet to meet a Clintonista who doesn't think Sen. Clinton is honest, intelligent, and trustworthy and is just a victim of the vast right-wing conspiracy. At least it's a minority of the evangelicals that's nutty.