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Philly Rabbit
10-12-2012, 01:37 PM
The seventeenth amendment. (passed in 1912) Senators now become elected officials.

Senators no longer are appointed by the different states and they become career politicians serving special interests.


The Income tax.

The federal government gets virtually unlimited access to funds and it has the power to pry into every business transaction and the records of every working person in America.


The Federal Reserve Act.

Gave the federal government the legal power to counterfeit. The country's gold is "stored by the fed for safe keeping."

Philly Rabbit
10-12-2012, 01:57 PM
Excuse me ... darkest year.

Trinnity
10-12-2012, 03:47 PM
You're right. It should never have happened. Look where it's gotten us...and the fed, don't even get me started on that. Sheesh~

roadmaster
10-12-2012, 09:45 PM
What gets me is that they think if a person is on unemployment and looking for a job and does side jobs such as cutting grass, fixing someones car ect, that they should also turn this in as income and be taxed.

Peter1469
10-12-2012, 09:48 PM
Agreed on all points.

head of joaquin
10-12-2012, 09:48 PM
Just think how badly the economy has performed since the Federal Reserve Act. I mean, sure we become the largest economy on the planet with the highest degree of wealth, but what has the Fed done for us lately.

Peter1469
10-12-2012, 09:50 PM
Just think how badly the economy has performed since the Federal Reserve Act. I mean, sure we become the largest economy on the planet with the highest degree of wealth, but what has the Fed done for us lately.

Here is an inflation calculator that shows what $20 in 1913 is worth now....:

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

That is what the federal reserve has done to the dollar.

Deadwood
10-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Just think how badly the economy has performed since the Federal Reserve Act. I mean, sure we become the largest economy on the planet with the highest degree of wealth, but what has the Fed done for us lately.

Oh shit!


We're all in trouble. The earth must have shifted on its axis. A post from Head that uses neither "teabagger" nor "meme" and doesn't even mention Romney.

Grab you cash, get some bottled water laid in....we're doomed motherfuckers

Deadwood
10-12-2012, 10:54 PM
The seventeenth amendment. (passed in 1912) Senators now become elected officials.

Senators no longer are appointed by the different states and they become career politicians serving special interests.


The Income tax.

The federal government gets virtually unlimited access to funds and it has the power to pry into every business transaction and the records of every working person in America.


The Federal Reserve Act.

Gave the federal government the legal power to counterfeit. The country's gold is "stored by the fed for safe keeping."

You are correct, sir.

And guess what. All of that came in under one Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat.

There you have it folks, another reason to kick Obama's ass out of the oval office......

trust me, there was logic in that ......

Trinnity
10-13-2012, 07:11 AM
The libs have been working on a Marxist vision of America since Wilson. The D party became Wilson's party in the last decade or two. See it for what it now is.

Philly Rabbit
10-14-2012, 06:56 AM
The libs have been working on a Marxist vision of America since Wilson. The D party became Wilson's party in the last decade or two. See it for what it now is.


The aftermath:

The American people no longer have the power of checks and balances against the federal government and nine lawyers on the supreme court acting on behalf of the fed then impose checks and balances on the American people. The supreme court spends decades after that failing to rule a single federal provision unconstitutional .. something the states always had the power to do beforehand.

The fed then imposes the bill of rights on the states which were supposed to be used as a prohibition against the federal government.

Woodrow Wilson then plunges America into world war one .. a war that had absolutely 0 interest at stake for America and a war that America would have and should have completely avoided by the states otherwise at the cost of 100 thousand American casualties. This foreign intervention by America was the catalyst above everything else for world war 2.

Peter1469
10-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Agreed 100%

birddog
10-14-2012, 01:36 PM
The 17th is great for Illinois. Otherwise, we would not have a R senator.

Taxcutter
10-14-2012, 04:33 PM
All three of those calamities can be reversed.

bladimz
10-14-2012, 07:08 PM
The aftermath:

The American people no longer have the power of checks and balances against the federal government and nine lawyers on the supreme court acting on behalf of the fed then impose checks and balances on the American people. The supreme court spends decades after that failing to rule a single federal provision unconstitutional .. something the states always had the power to do beforehand.

The fed then imposes the bill of rights on the states which were supposed to be used as a prohibition against the federal government.

Woodrow Wilson then plunges America into world war one .. a war that had absolutely 0 interest at stake for America and a war that America would have and should have completely avoided by the states otherwise at the cost of 100 thousand American casualties. This foreign intervention by America was the catalyst above everything else for world war 2.Blame Wilson for that war: maybe he was part of the plan, but don't forget the big war-mongers. The big rich guys who had (and to this day have) the opportunity to make big bucks on a strategically timed war. Don't kid yourself. They're out there: the arms manufacturers and dealers, the ammo industry, and the weapons-support industry. Note that they stay quietly in the background. When have you heard or read about that group in regard to the last two big wars. Lots of money made, and somehow kept under the radar.

Peter1469
10-14-2012, 07:18 PM
Wilson was the President. He can't hide behind the corporatist skirts on the decision to get the US involved in WWI.

bladimz
10-14-2012, 07:23 PM
You're right. He was tight with that ilk. Apparently.

Deadwood
10-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Blame Wilson for that war: maybe he was part of the plan, but don't forget the big war-mongers. The big rich guys who had (and to this day have) the opportunity to make big bucks on a strategically timed war. Don't kid yourself. They're out there: the arms manufacturers and dealers, the ammo industry, and the weapons-support industry. Note that they stay quietly in the background. When have you heard or read about that group in regard to the last two big wars. Lots of money made, and somehow kept under the radar.


Something Theodore Roosevelt, the third party candidate then warned, then had echoed by General Dwight D. Eisenhower.

bladimz
10-15-2012, 10:48 AM
Essssackly!! Ain't it great to be right?!! LOL

Cigar
10-15-2012, 11:00 AM
What don't the people who don't like it, pack their shit and go to Utopia ... it's waiting for you. :)

coolwalker
10-15-2012, 02:02 PM
I still think 2008 was even worse because then is when we added a socialist to the WH.

head of joaquin
10-15-2012, 02:33 PM
Here is an inflation calculator that shows what $20 in 1913 is worth now....:

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

That is what the federal reserve has done to the dollar.

No, that's a cost of living indicator. Quite different from inflation. Get your meme's correct.

Think about telephones in 1913 and cell phones now, and it will suggest why using CPI doesn't measure inflation.

head of joaquin
10-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Oh shit!


We're all in trouble. The earth must have shifted on its axis. A post from Head that uses neither "teabagger" nor "meme" and doesn't even mention Romney.

Grab you cash, get some bottled water laid in....we're doomed motherfuckers

Idiotic anti-fed weirdness -- the last eructations of a teabagger mind about to snap.

We tried not having the Fed and got the Long Depression of the 1880s and currency chaos.

Why is it you baggers don't ever ask WHY legislation is passed? It's like you're totally historically dylexic.

coolwalker
10-15-2012, 03:02 PM
Idiotic anti-fed weirdness -- the last eructations of a teabagger mind about to snap.

We tried not having the Fed and got the Long Depression of the 1880s and currency chaos.

Why is it you baggers don't ever ask WHY legislation is passed? It's like you're totally historically dylexic.

Why don't you drop the childishness with this Teabagger crap and just be a person instead of a dolt!

Peter1469
10-15-2012, 04:56 PM
No, that's a cost of living indicator. Quite different from inflation. Get your meme's correct.

Think about telephones in 1913 and cell phones now, and it will suggest why using CPI doesn't measure inflation.

Tell that to the Keynesians..., CPI is their formula.