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stephen50right
11-05-2016, 12:02 PM
The Final Case for Donald TrumpArticle by stephen50rightDonald Trump is so superior to Hillary Clinton as a potential President of the United States, that it should not be debatable. Trump would be an excellent president, with the possibility of being a great president. While Hillary assuredly would be a disaster, an absolute catastrophe to our country. We don't need Nostradamus to foresee what would happen over the next four years under each administration.

Under Hillary Clinton, the negativity would be never ending. She is by reputation a very nasty person. She seems to enjoy being condescending and talking down to people as if she is better than all of us. In her warped leftist mind, she really does believe that she is a superior being, illustrated by her own contemptible behavior over many years.

Leftist politicians usually if not always think of themselves as the elite of society. The supreme rulers over subservient subjects who they wish to control for their own amusement and self-aggrandizement. Hillary fits that description to a tee.Her involvement with scandals and corruption is by far the worst in modern US political history. Nobody else, including Richard Nixon, comes remotely close. There is no doubt that Hillary believes that she is above the law. All of this would become markedly worse under her presidency.

If she is elected, the chances of her sooner or later getting impeached, probably sooner, is virtually certain. Nothing of significance could possibly be accomplished in her administration, with congress constantly focused on investigating her non-stop criminal activities. Our country would languish with stagnant growth, continued debt, and societal decline even if Hillary was not a criminal, because she is so incompetent.

Unfortunately for America under a Hillary Clinton regime, the world would not stand still as our country declines and stays embroiled in political turmoil. Our enemies will grow stronger as we get weaker, and they will become emboldened. Possibly to a point of thinking they could defeat us in a war. Either that or bullying a weak, feckless Hillary into capitulation to what they want.Hillary Clinton as president would place America in a dangerous predicament, perhaps deadly. She really is nothing but bad news for our country. Now for some good news. We can elect Donald Trump.

To the naysayers out there who bash Trump for his caustic remarks. Let's repudiate those accusing him of saying profane things which supposedly upsets children. A child can watch any new sitcom on TV, especially cable TV, and hear all sorts of vulgar wisecracks, far worse than anything Trump says.Children are now proficient on computers at an early age. This is also the era of the internet. Dirty language and pictures are just a mouse click away. So unless a boy or girl has been kept in a cage, they have already seen and heard it all before. Thankfully they usually don't understand yet what it means.

Then there are comments that Trump occasionally makes about women. Always in jest and meant to be humorous, sometimes in a biting way to express a point towards his opponents. These same sort of comments are made by most men, but normally in private. The infamous audio of Trump's comments recently released from eleven years ago, for which he was excoriated, in all fairness was simply private banter between men.Women as well sometimes make crude comments about men in their private chat sessions with each other, and they of course know that. So let's stop with the silly criticisms about Trump in this regard. Those adults most offended by Trump's remarks, could be the ones most guilty of doing the exact same thing.

Anyone who wishes to be naive and think that presidents shouldn't act this way, should understand the reality of a treacherous world. We should want a president who occasionally uses rough words to make a strong point. A president has to send troops into combat when necessary to kill the enemy. We need a president with hard bark who can make tough decisions, not some thin-skinned liberal such as Hillary Clinton.Donald Trump is actually a perfect gentleman nearly all of the time. His opponents know this is true, but of course they won't admit it. Trump doesn't have a sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc, bone in his entire body and that has been proven over his whole life. He would have never been able to build a remarkable business in this day and age, if what his opponents call him was true.

Donald Trump is a winner and a leader, and that is not debatable. Our country needs this right now in a big way with all the disconcerting problems that our country faces. Trump will do what's best for “We the People” and not cater to special interests which Hillary Clinton has always favored.Would rich people benefit from a Trump presidency? Yes they will and they should. Rich people are often job creators. The middle class and poor people will benefit from Trump as well with greater ability to make good money which means increased prosperity for all.Trump will be a president for all the people. For an America that was founded on opportunity and advancement, while maintaining freedom and liberty. What Trump offers is basically impossible if Hillary is in charge, because she doesn't believe in capitalism or certain parts of our constitution.

Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is a hard core socialist. She believes in a Democratic Party owned and operated nanny state, with her as the boss, as a Queen of America. Hillary would consider it a compliment to be called Queen Hillary, and if she gains enough power, she may insist on it.

Hopefully on November 8th, the majority of the electorate will just say no to Hillary Clinton. But that doesn't mean voting for Trump is just voting anti-Hillary. Voting for Trump is a vote for a dynamic financial future, and a safe and secure country for yourself, family and friends, and all of our fellow Americans. We are all in this great country together, and with the leadership of Donald Trump, he can bring us together for a common goal of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Bethere
11-05-2016, 12:09 PM
The Final Case for Donald TrumpArticle by stephen50rightDonald Trump is so superior to Hillary Clinton as a potential President of the United States, that it should not be debatable. Trump would be an excellent president, with the possibility of being a great president. While Hillary assuredly would be a disaster, an absolute catastrophe to our country. We don't need Nostradamus to foresee what would happen over the next four years under each administration.

Under Hillary Clinton, the negativity would be never ending. She is by reputation a very nasty person. She seems to enjoy being condescending and talking down to people as if she is better than all of us. In her warped leftist mind, she really does believe that she is a superior being, illustrated by her own contemptible behavior over many years.

Leftist politicians usually if not always think of themselves as the elite of society. The supreme rulers over subservient subjects who they wish to control for their own amusement and self-aggrandizement. Hillary fits that description to a tee.Her involvement with scandals and corruption is by far the worst in modern US political history. Nobody else, including Richard Nixon, comes remotely close. There is no doubt that Hillary believes that she is above the law. All of this would become markedly worse under her presidency.

If she is elected, the chances of her sooner or later getting impeached, probably sooner, is virtually certain. Nothing of significance could possibly be accomplished in her administration, with congress constantly focused on investigating her non-stop criminal activities. Our country would languish with stagnant growth, continued debt, and societal decline even if Hillary was not a criminal, because she is so incompetent.

Unfortunately for America under a Hillary Clinton regime, the world would not stand still as our country declines and stays embroiled in political turmoil. Our enemies will grow stronger as we get weaker, and they will become emboldened. Possibly to a point of thinking they could defeat us in a war. Either that or bullying a weak, feckless Hillary into capitulation to what they want.Hillary Clinton as president would place America in a dangerous predicament, perhaps deadly. She really is nothing but bad news for our country. Now for some good news. We can elect Donald Trump.

To the naysayers out there who bash Trump for his caustic remarks. Let's repudiate those accusing him of saying profane things which supposedly upsets children. A child can watch any new sitcom on TV, especially cable TV, and hear all sorts of vulgar wisecracks, far worse than anything Trump says.Children are now proficient on computers at an early age. This is also the era of the internet. Dirty language and pictures are just a mouse click away. So unless a boy or girl has been kept in a cage, they have already seen and heard it all before. Thankfully they usually don't understand yet what it means.

Then there are comments that Trump occasionally makes about women. Always in jest and meant to be humorous, sometimes in a biting way to express a point towards his opponents. These same sort of comments are made by most men, but normally in private. The infamous audio of Trump's comments recently released from eleven years ago, for which he was excoriated, in all fairness was simply private banter between men.Women as well sometimes make crude comments about men in their private chat sessions with each other, and they of course know that. So let's stop with the silly criticisms about Trump in this regard. Those adults most offended by Trump's remarks, could be the ones most guilty of doing the exact same thing.

Anyone who wishes to be naive and think that presidents shouldn't act this way, should understand the reality of a treacherous world. We should want a president who occasionally uses rough words to make a strong point. A president has to send troops into combat when necessary to kill the enemy. We need a president with hard bark who can make tough decisions, not some thin-skinned liberal such as Hillary Clinton.Donald Trump is actually a perfect gentleman nearly all of the time. His opponents know this is true, but of course they won't admit it. Trump doesn't have a sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc, bone in his entire body and that has been proven over his whole life. He would have never been able to build a remarkable business in this day and age, if what his opponents call him was true.

Donald Trump is a winner and a leader, and that is not debatable. Our country needs this right now in a big way with all the disconcerting problems that our country faces. Trump will do what's best for “We the People” and not cater to special interests which Hillary Clinton has always favored.Would rich people benefit from a Trump presidency? Yes they will and they should. Rich people are often job creators. The middle class and poor people will benefit from Trump as well with greater ability to make good money which means increased prosperity for all.Trump will be a president for all the people. For an America that was founded on opportunity and advancement, while maintaining freedom and liberty. What Trump offers is basically impossible if Hillary is in charge, because she doesn't believe in capitalism or certain parts of our constitution.

Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is a hard core socialist. She believes in a Democratic Party owned and operated nanny state, with her as the boss, as a Queen of America. Hillary would consider it a compliment to be called Queen Hillary, and if she gains enough power, she may insist on it.

Hopefully on November 8th, the majority of the electorate will just say no to Hillary Clinton. But that doesn't mean voting for Trump is just voting anti-Hillary. Voting for Trump is a vote for a dynamic financial future, and a safe and secure country for yourself, family and friends, and all of our fellow Americans. We are all in this great country together, and with the leadership of Donald Trump, he can bring us together for a common goal of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Your first post.

#lulz

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 12:12 PM
Your first post.

#lulz

Shows what an infinite number of monkeys, with an infinite number of keyboards can achieve. :wink:

Bethere
11-05-2016, 02:44 PM
Shows what an infinite number of monkeys, with an infinite number of keyboards can achieve. :wink:
Good times!

del
11-05-2016, 02:48 PM
there is no case for donald trump

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 02:53 PM
there is no case for donald trump

"Drain the Swamp" would be a good start.

resister
11-05-2016, 02:53 PM
You said it perfectly.libby leftys are smug and think they are an elite class.Yet they spout about white privilege and racism at any oppurtunity

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 03:01 PM
You said it perfectly.libby leftys are smug and think they are an elite class.Yet they spout about white privilege and racism at any oppurtunity

Pasted from a Breitbart news story:

In 2010, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton fondly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former member and recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan. Clinton called Byrd “my friend and mentor” in a video message to commemorate his passing.

As a young man in West Virginia, Byrd was involved in the KKK and reportedly recruited 150 members to the group. While serving in Congress, Byrd set the record for longest filibuster on the floor of the U.S. Senate with a 14-hour filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

resister
11-05-2016, 03:03 PM
Posted from a Breitbart news story:

As a young man in West Virginia, Byrd was involved in the KKK and reportedly recruited 150 members to the group. While serving in Congress, Byrd set the record for longest filibuster on the floor of the U.S. Senate with a 14-hour filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In 2010, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton fondly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former member and recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan. Clinton called Byrd “my friend and mentor” in a video message to commemorate his passing.
Wonder how they'll clean that up?

AZ Jim
11-05-2016, 03:14 PM
Pasted from a Breitbart news story:

In 2010, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton fondly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former member and recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan. Clinton called Byrd “my friend and mentor” in a video message to commemorate his passing.

As a young man in West Virginia, Byrd was involved in the KKK and reportedly recruited 150 members to the group. While serving in Congress, Byrd set the record for longest filibuster on the floor of the U.S. Senate with a 14-hour filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.Thank you for bringing us a history lesson. I suppose your information didn't say anything about his reformation and the dedicated history of his fight to help ensure rights to blacks the rest of his life?

del
11-05-2016, 03:33 PM
"Drain the Swamp" would be a good start.
trump is an asshat as are his supporters.

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 04:03 PM
Thank you for bringing us a history lesson. I suppose your information didn't say anything about his reformation and the dedicated history of his fight to help ensure rights to blacks the rest of his life?

You probably think that Byrd's changed public persona had nothing to do with his quest for political power? Same reason that Obama stopped going to Jeremiah Wright's church of hate. Obama likely wouldn't have been elected president if he hadn't quit that church. But we all know that Obama never stopped believing in the hate that Wright preached, because Obama's policies have reflected that hate throughout his eight years as president.

AZ Jim
11-05-2016, 04:38 PM
You probably think that Byrd's changed public persona had nothing to do with his quest for political power? Same reason that Obama stopped going to Jeremiah Wright's church of hate. Obama likely wouldn't have been elected president if he hadn't quit that church. But we all know that Obama never stopped believing in the hate that Wright preached, because Obama's policies have reflected that hate throughout his eight years as president.Uh....Question? Who is "we all"? Take your meds before trying to reply.

Chris
11-05-2016, 05:40 PM
Uh....Question? Who is "we all"? Take your meds before trying to reply.

No innuendo about drinking, drugs or medication, please. Discuss topic.

del
11-05-2016, 05:50 PM
lol

Crepitus
11-05-2016, 05:58 PM
The Final Case for Donald TrumpArticle by stephen50rightDonald Trump is so superior to Hillary Clinton as a potential President of the United States, that it should not be debatable. Trump would be an excellent president, with the possibility of being a great president. While Hillary assuredly would be a disaster, an absolute catastrophe to our country. We don't need Nostradamus to foresee what would happen over the next four years under each administration.

Under Hillary Clinton, the negativity would be never ending. She is by reputation a very nasty person. She seems to enjoy being condescending and talking down to people as if she is better than all of us. In her warped leftist mind, she really does believe that she is a superior being, illustrated by her own contemptible behavior over many years.

Leftist politicians usually if not always think of themselves as the elite of society. The supreme rulers over subservient subjects who they wish to control for their own amusement and self-aggrandizement. Hillary fits that description to a tee.Her involvement with scandals and corruption is by far the worst in modern US political history. Nobody else, including Richard Nixon, comes remotely close. There is no doubt that Hillary believes that she is above the law. All of this would become markedly worse under her presidency.

If she is elected, the chances of her sooner or later getting impeached, probably sooner, is virtually certain. Nothing of significance could possibly be accomplished in her administration, with congress constantly focused on investigating her non-stop criminal activities. Our country would languish with stagnant growth, continued debt, and societal decline even if Hillary was not a criminal, because she is so incompetent.

Unfortunately for America under a Hillary Clinton regime, the world would not stand still as our country declines and stays embroiled in political turmoil. Our enemies will grow stronger as we get weaker, and they will become emboldened. Possibly to a point of thinking they could defeat us in a war. Either that or bullying a weak, feckless Hillary into capitulation to what they want.Hillary Clinton as president would place America in a dangerous predicament, perhaps deadly. She really is nothing but bad news for our country. Now for some good news. We can elect Donald Trump.

To the naysayers out there who bash Trump for his caustic remarks. Let's repudiate those accusing him of saying profane things which supposedly upsets children. A child can watch any new sitcom on TV, especially cable TV, and hear all sorts of vulgar wisecracks, far worse than anything Trump says.Children are now proficient on computers at an early age. This is also the era of the internet. Dirty language and pictures are just a mouse click away. So unless a boy or girl has been kept in a cage, they have already seen and heard it all before. Thankfully they usually don't understand yet what it means.

Then there are comments that Trump occasionally makes about women. Always in jest and meant to be humorous, sometimes in a biting way to express a point towards his opponents. These same sort of comments are made by most men, but normally in private. The infamous audio of Trump's comments recently released from eleven years ago, for which he was excoriated, in all fairness was simply private banter between men.Women as well sometimes make crude comments about men in their private chat sessions with each other, and they of course know that. So let's stop with the silly criticisms about Trump in this regard. Those adults most offended by Trump's remarks, could be the ones most guilty of doing the exact same thing.

Anyone who wishes to be naive and think that presidents shouldn't act this way, should understand the reality of a treacherous world. We should want a president who occasionally uses rough words to make a strong point. A president has to send troops into combat when necessary to kill the enemy. We need a president with hard bark who can make tough decisions, not some thin-skinned liberal such as Hillary Clinton.Donald Trump is actually a perfect gentleman nearly all of the time. His opponents know this is true, but of course they won't admit it. Trump doesn't have a sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc, bone in his entire body and that has been proven over his whole life. He would have never been able to build a remarkable business in this day and age, if what his opponents call him was true.

Donald Trump is a winner and a leader, and that is not debatable. Our country needs this right now in a big way with all the disconcerting problems that our country faces. Trump will do what's best for “We the People” and not cater to special interests which Hillary Clinton has always favored.Would rich people benefit from a Trump presidency? Yes they will and they should. Rich people are often job creators. The middle class and poor people will benefit from Trump as well with greater ability to make good money which means increased prosperity for all.Trump will be a president for all the people. For an America that was founded on opportunity and advancement, while maintaining freedom and liberty. What Trump offers is basically impossible if Hillary is in charge, because she doesn't believe in capitalism or certain parts of our constitution.

Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is a hard core socialist. She believes in a Democratic Party owned and operated nanny state, with her as the boss, as a Queen of America. Hillary would consider it a compliment to be called Queen Hillary, and if she gains enough power, she may insist on it.

Hopefully on November 8th, the majority of the electorate will just say no to Hillary Clinton. But that doesn't mean voting for Trump is just voting anti-Hillary. Voting for Trump is a vote for a dynamic financial future, and a safe and secure country for yourself, family and friends, and all of our fellow Americans. We are all in this great country together, and with the leadership of Donald Trump, he can bring us together for a common goal of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Docthehun
11-05-2016, 06:09 PM
50 right, quarterback keeper, here today, gone Tuesday. Good try. Unnecessary, but when you're flinging spaghetti in a last minute desperation act, good try none-the-less. Loyalty is rewarded and all others, well; "Get em' out of here!" By all means, stop by later next week and ask for Bethere.

resister
11-05-2016, 06:16 PM
Uh....Question? Who is "we all"? Take your meds before trying to reply.Those of us with cognitive reasoning

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 07:02 PM
Uh....Question? Who is "we all"? Take your meds before trying to reply.

Wake up and smell the socialism, but from the looks of your avatar, it seems as though you already have and you like it.

Socialist politicians are haters who hate under the guise of good intentions. Your beloved Crooked Hillary is one of them.

resister
11-05-2016, 07:05 PM
trump is an asshat as are his supporters.your face

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 07:07 PM
50 right, quarterback keeper, here today, gone Tuesday. Good try. Unnecessary, but when you're flinging spaghetti in a last minute desperation act, good try none-the-less. Loyalty is rewarded and all others, well; "Get em' out of here!" By all means, stop by later next week and ask for @Bethere (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1988).

"Gone Tuesday" - temporarily maybe, but one thing about our side, we don't quit. If enough no-information voters happen to be ignorant enough to vote for a career criminal named Hillary, we will be there to educate them and win next time.

resister
11-05-2016, 07:09 PM
Wake up and smell the socialism, but from the looks of your avatar, it seems as though you already have and you like it.

Socialist politicians are haters who hate under the guise of good intentions. Your beloved Crooked Hillary is one of them.

Most Shillary supporters are either welfare recipiants or millennials.If you support her when your 80 you might want to get checked for oldtimers

stephen50right
11-05-2016, 07:21 PM
Most Shillary supporters are either welfare recipiants or millennials.If you support her when your 80 you might want to get checked for oldtimers

Wait until those millennials realize one day, that they will be the ones responsible for the national debt that Obama buried them under. Hillary, if elected, will bury them further.

In the future, most millennials will leave the Democratic Party when they understand what these leftists did to them.

NapRover
11-05-2016, 09:32 PM
The Final Case for Donald TrumpArticle by stephen50rightDonald Trump is so superior to Hillary Clinton as a potential President of the United States, that it should not be debatable. Trump would be an excellent president, with the possibility of being a great president. While Hillary assuredly would be a disaster, an absolute catastrophe to our country. We don't need Nostradamus to foresee what would happen over the next four years under each administration.

Under Hillary Clinton, the negativity would be never ending. She is by reputation a very nasty person. She seems to enjoy being condescending and talking down to people as if she is better than all of us. In her warped leftist mind, she really does believe that she is a superior being, illustrated by her own contemptible behavior over many years.

Leftist politicians usually if not always think of themselves as the elite of society. The supreme rulers over subservient subjects who they wish to control for their own amusement and self-aggrandizement. Hillary fits that description to a tee.Her involvement with scandals and corruption is by far the worst in modern US political history. Nobody else, including Richard Nixon, comes remotely close. There is no doubt that Hillary believes that she is above the law. All of this would become markedly worse under her presidency.

If she is elected, the chances of her sooner or later getting impeached, probably sooner, is virtually certain. Nothing of significance could possibly be accomplished in her administration, with congress constantly focused on investigating her non-stop criminal activities. Our country would languish with stagnant growth, continued debt, and societal decline even if Hillary was not a criminal, because she is so incompetent.

Unfortunately for America under a Hillary Clinton regime, the world would not stand still as our country declines and stays embroiled in political turmoil. Our enemies will grow stronger as we get weaker, and they will become emboldened. Possibly to a point of thinking they could defeat us in a war. Either that or bullying a weak, feckless Hillary into capitulation to what they want.Hillary Clinton as president would place America in a dangerous predicament, perhaps deadly. She really is nothing but bad news for our country. Now for some good news. We can elect Donald Trump.

To the naysayers out there who bash Trump for his caustic remarks. Let's repudiate those accusing him of saying profane things which supposedly upsets children. A child can watch any new sitcom on TV, especially cable TV, and hear all sorts of vulgar wisecracks, far worse than anything Trump says.Children are now proficient on computers at an early age. This is also the era of the internet. Dirty language and pictures are just a mouse click away. So unless a boy or girl has been kept in a cage, they have already seen and heard it all before. Thankfully they usually don't understand yet what it means.

Then there are comments that Trump occasionally makes about women. Always in jest and meant to be humorous, sometimes in a biting way to express a point towards his opponents. These same sort of comments are made by most men, but normally in private. The infamous audio of Trump's comments recently released from eleven years ago, for which he was excoriated, in all fairness was simply private banter between men.Women as well sometimes make crude comments about men in their private chat sessions with each other, and they of course know that. So let's stop with the silly criticisms about Trump in this regard. Those adults most offended by Trump's remarks, could be the ones most guilty of doing the exact same thing.

Anyone who wishes to be naive and think that presidents shouldn't act this way, should understand the reality of a treacherous world. We should want a president who occasionally uses rough words to make a strong point. A president has to send troops into combat when necessary to kill the enemy. We need a president with hard bark who can make tough decisions, not some thin-skinned liberal such as Hillary Clinton.Donald Trump is actually a perfect gentleman nearly all of the time. His opponents know this is true, but of course they won't admit it. Trump doesn't have a sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc, bone in his entire body and that has been proven over his whole life. He would have never been able to build a remarkable business in this day and age, if what his opponents call him was true.

Donald Trump is a winner and a leader, and that is not debatable. Our country needs this right now in a big way with all the disconcerting problems that our country faces. Trump will do what's best for “We the People” and not cater to special interests which Hillary Clinton has always favored.Would rich people benefit from a Trump presidency? Yes they will and they should. Rich people are often job creators. The middle class and poor people will benefit from Trump as well with greater ability to make good money which means increased prosperity for all.Trump will be a president for all the people. For an America that was founded on opportunity and advancement, while maintaining freedom and liberty. What Trump offers is basically impossible if Hillary is in charge, because she doesn't believe in capitalism or certain parts of our constitution.

Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is a hard core socialist. She believes in a Democratic Party owned and operated nanny state, with her as the boss, as a Queen of America. Hillary would consider it a compliment to be called Queen Hillary, and if she gains enough power, she may insist on it.

Hopefully on November 8th, the majority of the electorate will just say no to Hillary Clinton. But that doesn't mean voting for Trump is just voting anti-Hillary. Voting for Trump is a vote for a dynamic financial future, and a safe and secure country for yourself, family and friends, and all of our fellow Americans. We are all in this great country together, and with the leadership of Donald Trump, he can bring us together for a common goal of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Great post.
Here's a recent report on Hillary's demeanor following the CIC townhall meeting.
https://youtu.be/kfGeXth-Do4

del
11-05-2016, 10:00 PM
"Gone Tuesday" - temporarily maybe, but one thing about our side, we don't quit. If enough no-information voters happen to be ignorant enough to vote for a career criminal named Hillary, we will be there to educate them and win next time.
yeah, you guys are gonna kick ass and take names, just like the last time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMoq9dqYqiE

del
11-05-2016, 10:01 PM
Wait until those millennials realize one day, that they will be the ones responsible for the national debt that Obama buried them under. Hillary, if elected, will bury them further.

In the future, most millennials will leave the Democratic Party when they understand what these leftists did to them.

you tell 'em, mac

:biglaugh:

resister
11-05-2016, 10:05 PM
Wait until those millennials realize one day, that they will be the ones responsible for the national debt that Obama buried them under. Hillary, if elected, will bury them further.

In the future, most millennials will leave the Democratic Party when they understand what these leftists did to them.If your not a denturd as a youngster,then you have no heart.If your not a republican by the time your 30 ,you have no brain

del
11-05-2016, 10:12 PM
If your not a denturd as a youngster,then you have no heart.If your not a republican by the time your 30 ,you have no brain

stephen50right
11-06-2016, 02:23 AM
you tell 'em, mac

:biglaugh:
First time I've ever seen anyone with a "big laugh" smiley when responding to a 20 trillion dollar national debt.

Go ahead, laugh away at whatever you wish, but the 20 trillion dollar national debt is as real as a heart attack.

Docthehun
11-06-2016, 07:32 AM
First time I've ever seen anyone with a "big laugh" smiley when responding to a 20 trillion dollar national debt.

Go ahead, laugh away at whatever you wish, but the 20 trillion dollar national debt is as real as a heart attack.

As a fiscal conservative, I'm concerned as well.


http://fortune.com/2016/11/02/donald-trump-economists-nobel-laureates-letter/

Peter1469
11-06-2016, 09:08 AM
As a fiscal conservative, I'm concerned as well.


http://fortune.com/2016/11/02/donald-trump-economists-nobel-laureates-letter/

What is your opinion on the pros and cons of static accounting models. Same question for dynamic models.

Docthehun
11-06-2016, 09:35 AM
What is your opinion on the pros and cons of static accounting models. Same question for dynamic models.

I'm only familiar with the term static has it relates to budgeting. Most corporate budgeting has elements of both static and "flexible" accounting. For instance a company might budget a fixed (static) amount toward advertising in contrast to say, "sales commissions" which would be adjusted (flexible) according to changes (actual vs budgeted) in sales. Anything beyond that, like "models" or such would an area I know nothing about. Accounting has never been a passion of mine, but I thought it was essential to learn in order to really understand business and be able to converse with career accountants.

Peter1469
11-06-2016, 09:40 AM
I'm only familiar with the term static has it relates to budgeting. Most corporate budgeting has elements of both static and "flexible" accounting. For instance a company might budget a fixed (static) amount toward advertising in contrast to say, "sales commissions" which would be adjusted (flexible) according to changes (actual vs budgeted) in sales. Anything beyond that, like "models" or such would an area I know nothing about. Accounting has never been a passion of mine, but I thought it was essential to learn in order to really understand business and be able to converse with career accountants.

That is the basis of the criticism of Trump's budget proposal. Static models assume fixed factors such as GDP. Often they have no basis in reality and end up being wildly off.

Dynamic models allow for consideration of changes in economic factors due to the budget proposals. For instance a growing economy because of a specific policy. Trump relies on this to pay for his plans. Static models do not allow for it.

Of course the down side is that it is too easy to use dynamic models to advance an agenda. Just fudge the numbers.

Docthehun
11-06-2016, 10:10 AM
That is the basis of the criticism of Trump's budget proposal. Static models assume fixed factors such as GDP. Often they have no basis in reality and end up being wildly off.

Dynamic models allow for consideration of changes in economic factors due to the budget proposals. For instance a growing economy because of a specific policy. Trump relies on this to pay for his plans. Static models do not allow for it.

Of course the down side is that it is too easy to use dynamic models to advance an agenda. Just fudge the numbers.

One of my main concerns with Trump's plan is that it relies on a 4% GDP growth for five years.

Peter1469
11-06-2016, 11:13 AM
One of my main concerns with Trump's plan is that it relies on a 4% GDP growth for five years.

That high?

Anyway, a static model doesn't allow that. His plan will grow the economy. How much? Who knows.

NapRover
11-06-2016, 11:35 AM
That high?

Anyway, a static model doesn't allow that. His plan will grow the economy. How much? Who knows.
Ill go with 3%, seems a safe bet since every president in history has achieved it until BHO. Maybe 4% is in the cards if someone's in the driver's seat who actually knows the way!

Peter1469
11-06-2016, 11:42 AM
Ill go with 3%, seems a safe bet since every president in history has achieved it until BHO. Maybe 4% is in the cards if someone's in the driver's seat who actually knows the way!

I can see 4% or even much higher initially because there is nowhere to go but up after the last 8 years. But you are probably right 3% would be a good target average.

Docthehun
11-06-2016, 11:44 AM
That high?

Anyway, a static model doesn't allow that. His plan will grow the economy. How much? Who knows.

Steve Moore, one of Trump's chief economic advisors and a regular on Fox Business has been touting that number. No conservative would buy that lofty number. They're basing that projection on the tax cut will spur businesses to ramp up production. American corporations are sitting on record amounts of dough as is. If there was demand, they've would have already made the investment. For individuals, the estimate is that your tax liability will be approximately 20% less. Everyone should do that calculation and see how much additional disposable income they'll have to spend. With worldwide demand low and our economy just inching ahead, it's hard to believe that GDP will suddenly more than double the current pace and sustain that same growth for five years.


If Trump is successful in his current attitude toward trade, it's not hard to imagine that we'll have less global trade and the cost of goods we purchase here are likely to rise, eroding the value that the 20% tax cut provides. Looks to me like the deficit will soar unless he abandons the lofty promises he's made to his ardent and vocal supporters.


"If it sounds too good to be true.............."

Bethere
11-06-2016, 11:58 AM
One of my main concerns with Trump's plan is that it relies on a 4% GDP growth for five years.

So did Reagan's projections.

David Stockman called it the rosy scenario.

hW called it voodoo economics.

HIstory called his 4% projection "tripling the national debt."

If we actually were growing at 4% the fed would slam on the brakes because it is hyper inflationary.

Please make a note of it.

stephen50right
11-07-2016, 12:15 AM
As a fiscal conservative, I'm concerned as well.
http://fortune.com/2016/11/02/donald-trump-economists-nobel-laureates-letter/

"370 economists" from your link

I would bet that 370 monkeys making economic predictions, have the same chances of being correct as these self-called geniuses. :laugh:

stephen50right
11-07-2016, 12:21 AM
What some aren't factoring in here, is that Trump would slash pork spending in Washington DC, not with a table knife, but with a meat cleaver.

Which is exactly why the bloated establishment wants to see him lose.

MRogersNhood
11-07-2016, 02:36 AM
What some aren't factoring in here, is that Trump would slash pork spending in Washington DC, not with a table knife, but with a meat cleaver.

Which is exactly why the bloated establishment wants to see him lose.

Slashing pork spending,cutting taxes and opening up jobs for Americans;What's not to like about that?

Docthehun
11-07-2016, 07:42 AM
"370 economists" from your link

I would bet that 370 monkeys making economic predictions, have the same chances of being correct as these self-called geniuses. :laugh:

That's fine. It's America, you can put all your chips on 7 red if you want. Hope it works out for you.

Docthehun
11-07-2016, 07:43 AM
Slashing pork spending,cutting taxes and opening up jobs for Americans;What's not to like about that?

Sounds like a plan..............or not.

Fagan_the_Pagan
11-07-2016, 09:50 AM
Listen, I have reservations about Clinton, and I know we have to clean house. Corruption is rampant, and Citizens United pretty much legalized bribery of politicians. But in order for us to clean house, there needs to BE A HOUSE. Hillary Clinton is measured and calculating. She's made errors, but not of the sort that would lead to the end of our society. Donald Trump, less so.

Donald Trump has consistently shown, through his life and through the entire campaign, that he is completely unfit for this kind of position. He obsessively responds to public quips on late night twitter rants, personally insults and attacks anyone who dares to disagree with him, and routinely belittles women and every kind of minority. He has obsessively pursued his personal grudge with Rosie O'Donnell, and dragged it into a political arena without need or purpose. He is constantly sexually harassing every woman around him. He is facing 75 lawsuits right now, and has been accused by a dozen women of sexual assault. Sexual. Assault. And of course now Trump supporters are calling every one of them liars, gold-diggers, and attention whores, and yet people wonder why more women don't come forward to report their sexual assaults.

He encouraged Russia to hack his opponents, a major violation of national security if not open treason. That taken with his threats to jail his political enemies ("lock her up" and "you'd be in jail"), statements that he would pursue measures to censor the press, and his unwillingness to agree to a peaceful transition of power should he lose, and he looks, not so much like the president of a republic, but like a dictator. Couple that with his encouragement of xenophobia, his scapegoating of Muslims and immigrants, and his encouragement of his supporters to engage in violence with protestors and dissenters at his rallies, and you have the picture of a fascist tyrant.

I don't think Hillary is a socialist; she's been far too centrist most of her career for me to believe that, but Bernie Sanders did drag her leftward. But I'd take a socialist over a fascist any day.

Crepitus
11-07-2016, 10:48 AM
What some aren't factoring in here, is that Trump would slash pork spending in Washington DC, not with a table knife, but with a meat cleaver.

Which is exactly why the bloated establishment wants to see him lose.

And when has he mentioned that?

del
11-07-2016, 10:52 AM
And when has he mentioned that?
never

but you knew that

trump is a blank canvas and the wingers project their fondest fantasies onto him.

it'd be funny if it wasn't so sad

resister
11-07-2016, 11:08 AM
Slashing pork spending,cutting taxes and opening up jobs for Americans;What's not to like about that?Nothing at all unless your a lazy welfare parasite

nic34
11-07-2016, 11:11 AM
You said it perfectly.libby leftys are smug and think they are an elite class.Yet they spout about white privilege and racism at any oppurtunity

Yeah, and they are such goody-two shoes too....

ripmeister
11-07-2016, 11:44 AM
Sounds like a plan..............or not.

Trust me! even though I can't articulate a plan. :toothy9:

ripmeister
11-07-2016, 11:48 AM
Slashing pork spending,cutting taxes and opening up jobs for Americans;What's not to like about that?
PT and Harold Hill would be proud of the salesman.

Cigar
11-07-2016, 11:49 AM
The Final Case for Donald TrumpArticle by stephen50rightDonald Trump is so superior to Hillary Clinton as a potential President of the United States, that it should not be debatable. Trump would be an excellent president, with the possibility of being a great president. While Hillary assuredly would be a disaster, an absolute catastrophe to our country. We don't need Nostradamus to foresee what would happen over the next four years under each administration.

Under Hillary Clinton, the negativity would be never ending. She is by reputation a very nasty person. She seems to enjoy being condescending and talking down to people as if she is better than all of us. In her warped leftist mind, she really does believe that she is a superior being, illustrated by her own contemptible behavior over many years.

Leftist politicians usually if not always think of themselves as the elite of society. The supreme rulers over subservient subjects who they wish to control for their own amusement and self-aggrandizement. Hillary fits that description to a tee.Her involvement with scandals and corruption is by far the worst in modern US political history. Nobody else, including Richard Nixon, comes remotely close. There is no doubt that Hillary believes that she is above the law. All of this would become markedly worse under her presidency.

If she is elected, the chances of her sooner or later getting impeached, probably sooner, is virtually certain. Nothing of significance could possibly be accomplished in her administration, with congress constantly focused on investigating her non-stop criminal activities. Our country would languish with stagnant growth, continued debt, and societal decline even if Hillary was not a criminal, because she is so incompetent.

Unfortunately for America under a Hillary Clinton regime, the world would not stand still as our country declines and stays embroiled in political turmoil. Our enemies will grow stronger as we get weaker, and they will become emboldened. Possibly to a point of thinking they could defeat us in a war. Either that or bullying a weak, feckless Hillary into capitulation to what they want.Hillary Clinton as president would place America in a dangerous predicament, perhaps deadly. She really is nothing but bad news for our country. Now for some good news. We can elect Donald Trump.

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Then there are comments that Trump occasionally makes about women. Always in jest and meant to be humorous, sometimes in a biting way to express a point towards his opponents. These same sort of comments are made by most men, but normally in private. The infamous audio of Trump's comments recently released from eleven years ago, for which he was excoriated, in all fairness was simply private banter between men.Women as well sometimes make crude comments about men in their private chat sessions with each other, and they of course know that. So let's stop with the silly criticisms about Trump in this regard. Those adults most offended by Trump's remarks, could be the ones most guilty of doing the exact same thing.

Anyone who wishes to be naive and think that presidents shouldn't act this way, should understand the reality of a treacherous world. We should want a president who occasionally uses rough words to make a strong point. A president has to send troops into combat when necessary to kill the enemy. We need a president with hard bark who can make tough decisions, not some thin-skinned liberal such as Hillary Clinton.Donald Trump is actually a perfect gentleman nearly all of the time. His opponents know this is true, but of course they won't admit it. Trump doesn't have a sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc, bone in his entire body and that has been proven over his whole life. He would have never been able to build a remarkable business in this day and age, if what his opponents call him was true.

Donald Trump is a winner and a leader, and that is not debatable. Our country needs this right now in a big way with all the disconcerting problems that our country faces. Trump will do what's best for “We the People” and not cater to special interests which Hillary Clinton has always favored.Would rich people benefit from a Trump presidency? Yes they will and they should. Rich people are often job creators. The middle class and poor people will benefit from Trump as well with greater ability to make good money which means increased prosperity for all.Trump will be a president for all the people. For an America that was founded on opportunity and advancement, while maintaining freedom and liberty. What Trump offers is basically impossible if Hillary is in charge, because she doesn't believe in capitalism or certain parts of our constitution.

Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is a hard core socialist. She believes in a Democratic Party owned and operated nanny state, with her as the boss, as a Queen of America. Hillary would consider it a compliment to be called Queen Hillary, and if she gains enough power, she may insist on it.

Hopefully on November 8th, the majority of the electorate will just say no to Hillary Clinton. But that doesn't mean voting for Trump is just voting anti-Hillary. Voting for Trump is a vote for a dynamic financial future, and a safe and secure country for yourself, family and friends, and all of our fellow Americans. We are all in this great country together, and with the leadership of Donald Trump, he can bring us together for a common goal of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Donald don't Go Away Mad, just Go the F'ck Away :laugh: