How many campaign Promises will Trump break?

[decedent]

Here are some of Trump's promises that he made during his campaigning:

Get rid of gun-free zones (on his first day)
Get rid of Obama's executive orders on immigration (on his first day)
Grow the nation's economy by at least 6%
Reduce the $18 trillion national debt
Cut the budget by only renegotiating
Heavily monitor mosques
Build a wall along the southern border
Make Mexico pay for the wall
force everyone to say "Merry Christmas" again
Get rid of Common Core
Get rid of the EPA
Rebuild the country's infrastructure
Save entitlements without cutting benefits
Defund Planned Parenthood
Ban most foreign Muslims from entering the US
Ban Syrian refugees from entering the US
Kick out all Syrian refugees
Create a database of Muslims
Never take a vacation as President
Prosecute Hillary
Stop space exploration spending
Pick a Supreme Court justice who's a legal scholar
Strenghthen the military
Let Russia take care of ISIS
Bomb the shit out of ISIS
Kill relatives of terrorists
Shut down parts of the Internet
Bring back waterboarding
Leave troops in Afghanistan
Renegotiate the current Iran deal
Fire the VA leaders
Invest in veteran's civilian integration
Bring jobs back from China
Guarantee jobs for students at Wofford College
Crack down on China's theft and lax labor laws
Put Carl Icahn in charge of China-Japan trade
Impose a 35% tax on Ford if they build in Mexico
Force Nabisco to make Oreos in the US
Get rid of the Consumer Protection Act
Reduce the number of tax brackets to 4
No longer charge income tax to individuals earning less than $25K
No longer charge income tax to couples earning less than $50K
Allow corporations a one-time window to bring back overseas money
Get rid of most corporate loopholes and incentives
Ensure the death penalty for anyone who kills a cop
Deport the ~11 million illegal immigrants
Triple the Customs officers
End birthright citizenship
Cut 10% of federal regulations

I'm sure that Trump is a very honest person who would never con his voters in what might have been the biggest swindle in modern history, right?

[Mister D]

He has already kept one promise: "I will beat Hillary". :smiley:

[Cigar]

I don't think he ever needed to make any :laugh:

Everything will just be Huge and America will be Great ... Again :grin:

[decedent]

He has already kept one promise: "I will beat Hillary". :smiley:

So, 0 - 25% is your vote?

[Cigar]

So, 0 - 25% is your vote?

Well Duaaa ... he'd have to Win to Execute 1 ... his supporters are also Arithmetic Challenged

[decedent]

Well Duaaa ... he'd have to Win to Execute 1 ... his supporters are also Arithmetic ChallengedI think he'll break at least 90% on that list. Some of them will happen on his first day in office. He's not the guy they wanted. He's the guy they think they wanted. This is literally the biggest con job art of the deal I've ever seen.

[stjames1_53]

man, you talk about people hating Obama and that thief Hillary.............we got nothing on you..........

[Private Pickle]

Not as many as Obama.

[Common Sense]

man, you talk about people hating Obama and that thief Hillary.............we got nothing on you..........

You don't give yourself enough credit.

[Docthehun]

He has already kept one promise: "I will beat Hillary". :smiley:

Good point. That rules out 100%

[Common Sense]

There certainly will be no contiguous wall.

[nathanbforrest45]

There certainly will be no contiguous wall.


But then again your side claimed Hillary was a sure thing. So, we will take your prediction for what its worth. Not much

[Scerab]

How can you hold him to any of these promises when he kept on changing his mind every other day?
the thing with trump is he is not conventional.

[Common Sense]

But then again your side claimed Hillary was a sure thing. So, we will take your prediction for what its worth. Not much
Fair enough. However I highly doubt there will be an actual wall. It will be rolled back to a fence or strengthened border. Sort of what you have now

[nathanbforrest45]

Fair enough. However I highly doubt there will be an actual wall. It will be rolled back to a fence or strengthened border. Sort of what you have now


But you do agree there will be some impediment to just moseying across the border like its non existent?

[Common Sense]

But you do agree there will be some impediment to just moseying across the border like its non existent?

The current border is actually more fortified and is stronger than it ever has been in the history of the US.

[nathanbforrest45]

No president can possibly keep all of his campaign promises for several reasons. One is that he is the president of all the people, not just those that elected him to his office. His obligation is to the nation as a whole. Secondly, he must work with a Congress that may or may not agree with his programs. He can of course just use Executive Orders but that will quickly lead to mutiny and possible impeachment and finally, not all of his promises are feasible although they may have been made with the best of intentions.

I am less concerned with "broken promises" than I am with the reason for those breaks.

[Axiomatic]

75%-100% because I don't want to read the list

[nathanbforrest45]

The current border is actually more fortified and is stronger than it ever has been in the history of the US.


And yet we have a veritable mass migration of Hispanics streaming into the country at an unprecedented rate. Why would that be?

Either we have a border and are a separate country from Mexico or we are not. If we are then we have a right and obligation to limit those who can come in at will.

[MRogersNhood]

I voted for 50% because:Reality.

[Axiomatic]

Here we go...

No president can possibly keep all of his campaign promises for several reasons. One is that he is the president of all the people, not just those that elected him to his office. His obligation is to the nation as a whole. Secondly, he must work with a Congress that may or may not agree with his programs. He can of course just use Executive Orders but that will quickly lead to mutiny and possible impeachment and finally, not all of his promises are feasible although they may have been made with the best of intentions.

I am less concerned with "broken promises" than I am with the reason for those breaks.


Same shit, different party.

[valley ranch]

I think: He will not, unless forced to, by public outcry, go after Clinton. She will be allowed to slink away, she's finished in politics. His statement " If I'm elected I'll"~ I believe was to point out criminal wrong doing. He, President Trump isn't mean spirited, he'll let her leave with her clothing intact and hair looking nice.

Let them go in peace, President Obama doesn't have to be the enemy any longer, I don't think he want to, he's done what he's done, what he thought was the right thing to do, but it won't be carried on by the next administration.

This is the time for all Americans, not to be hindered by ghosts of past administrations. This is our time.

[nathanbforrest45]

Here we go...



Same $#@!, different party.

No, not really. He can still steer the nation in the way he envisions without adhering to every promise. This doesn't mean that he will give in to everything. It means that some promises are just not doable and the goal is the movement of the country back to capitalism and not driving headlong into socialism as we have been doing.

Bear in mind as well that the Executive Branch is supposedly a co equal with the other two branches and therefore cannot do everything it may wish to do but it can keep to the course Trump has chosen.

[Subdermal]

Well Duaaa ... he'd have to Win to Execute 1 ... his supporters are also Arithmetic Challenged

Really.

You should bring that up with Bethere and JDubya, who proved that they are challenged in that department.

[Bethere]

Really.

You should bring that up with @Bethere (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1988) and @JDubya (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1435), who proved that they are challenged in that department.

It just kills you that I am so good, doesn't it?

Good times.

[JDubya]

No, not really. He can still steer the nation in the way he envisions without adhering to every promise. This doesn't mean that he will give in to everything. It means that some promises are just not doable and the goal is the movement of the country back to capitalism and not driving headlong into socialism as we have been doing.

Bear in mind as well that the Executive Branch is supposedly a co equal with the other two branches and therefore cannot do everything it may wish to do but it can keep to the course Trump has chosen.

Here come the double standards and excuses already.

I cannot wait to see this bum fall on his face and become humbled like he should've been years ago.

[JDubya]

No president can possibly keep all of his campaign promises for several reasons. One is that he is the president of all the people, not just those that elected him to his office. His obligation is to the nation as a whole. Secondly, he must work with a Congress that may or may not agree with his programs. He can of course just use Executive Orders but that will quickly lead to mutiny and possible impeachment and finally, not all of his promises are feasible although they may have been made with the best of intentions.

I am less concerned with "broken promises" than I am with the reason for those breaks.
Here comes the hypocrisy.

One of those right-wing contard specialties.

[Mister D]

It just kills you that I am so good, doesn't it?

Good times.

Good times? You've been miserable all day. :laugh:

[Peter1469]

He won't have to close GITMO because Obama promised to do that.

[exploited]

No, not really. He can still steer the nation in the way he envisions without adhering to every promise. This doesn't mean that he will give in to everything. It means that some promises are just not doable and the goal is the movement of the country back to capitalism and not driving headlong into socialism as we have been doing.

Bear in mind as well that the Executive Branch is supposedly a co equal with the other two branches and therefore cannot do everything it may wish to do but it can keep to the course Trump has chosen.
I really cannot wrap my head around this idea that President-Elect Trump is going to drive you back towards capitalism. I also don't understand how the United States, one of the freest and most liberal economies in history, has been diving "headlong" into socialism. The US has been tearing down barriers and bringing people closer economically for the past 80 years. The result was lifting billions of people out of poverty and improving the material circumstances of many billions more. And now President-Elect Trump wants to establish tariffs, in a hopeless attempt at bringing manufacturing back to the US.

One should look to history to see how wonderful the world is when every country is using their sovereign powers to prohibit trade that doesn't work out for them.

[stjames1_53]

Good times? You've been miserable all day. :laugh:
he's not done being an ass, yet

[stjames1_53]

I really cannot wrap my head around this idea that President-Elect Trump is going to drive you back towards capitalism. I also don't understand how the United States, one of the freest and most liberal economies in history, has been diving "headlong" into socialism. The US has been tearing down barriers and bringing people closer economically for the past 80 years. The result was lifting billions of people out of poverty and improving the material circumstances of many billions more. And now President-Elect Trump wants to establish tariffs, in a hopeless attempt at bringing manufacturing back to the US.

One should look to history to see how wonderful the world is when every country is using their sovereign powers to prohibit trade that doesn't work out for them.

sho' 'nuff............just look at Venezuela.............perfect socialist example...look at Cuba, another fine example..........Australia...no more public birthday parties..............
You're just mad because you can't tell us what to do anymore............you have become smaller than a inconsequential gnat bite......... What's that? I can't even hear you bark anymore................

[patrickt]

The number is irrelevant. Percentage-wise, probably the same as Obama.

[exploited]

sho' 'nuff............just look at Venezuela.............perfect socialist example...look at Cuba, another fine example..........Australia...no more public birthday parties..............
You're just mad because you can't tell us what to do anymore............you have become smaller than a inconsequential gnat bite......... What's that? I can't even hear you bark anymore................
This has nothing to do with what I said.

[decedent]

man, you talk about people hating Obama and that thief Hillary.............we got nothing on you..........

I don't like Trump.

Many Republican dislike him more than I do. I'm a moderate Democrat. I would have been fine with Romney winning 4 years ago. I just dislike him because he has abused so many people over so many decades. Cheating honest workers, groping women, scamming so many vulnerable people, etc.

[decedent]

Seth Meyers puts Trump on notice about his campaign promises.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEskg0Z-NAQ

[stjames1_53]

This has nothing to do with what I said.

you are a certified, dyed in the wool, PC mongering, socialist...................it has EVERYTHING to do with what you say

[stjames1_53]

I don't like Trump.

Many Republican dislike him more than I do. I'm a moderate Democrat. I would have been fine with Romney winning 4 years ago. I just dislike him because he has abused so many people over so many decades. Cheating honest workers, groping women, scamming so many vulnerable people, etc.

project much? What about $190,000 she stole from YOU
What about the 6 billions of YOURS she "lost"................
you were willing to let a thief back into the safe and set her philandering perverted "soul mate" up in his favorite hunting grounds..................
meh.....crybabies

[stjames1_53]

I really cannot wrap my head around this idea that President-Elect Trump is going to drive you back towards capitalism. I also don't understand how the United States, one of the freest and most liberal economies in history, has been diving "headlong" into socialism. The US has been tearing down barriers and bringing people closer economically for the past 80 years. The result was lifting billions of people out of poverty and improving the material circumstances of many billions more. And now President-Elect Trump wants to establish tariffs, in a hopeless attempt at bringing manufacturing back to the US.

One should look to history to see how wonderful the world is when every country is using their sovereign powers to prohibit trade that doesn't work out for them.


The US has been tearing down barriers and bringing people closer economically for the past 80 years. The result was lifting billions of people out of poverty and improving the material circumstances of many billions more.
while putting millions of Americans out of work and losing their insurance......those billions lifted out of poverty? Where? Haiti? he sure as hell didn't lift you out of poverty
You must assuredly be talking about the people he bettered in Unicornville

[decedent]

project much? What about $190,000 she stole from YOU
What about the 6 billions of YOURS she "lost"................
you were willing to let a thief back into the safe and set her philandering perverted "soul mate" up in his favorite hunting grounds..................
meh.....crybabies

Just because Trump says it doesn't mean it's true.


Trump wrongly says $6 billion went missing at State Department under Clinton (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/20/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-says-6-billion-went-missing-state-de/)

Trump’s inaccurate claim stems from a misreading of a March 2014 alert out of the State Department’s Office of the Inspector General. The alert found that paperwork for various contracts was mismanaged. These contracts were together worth about $6 billion. The money didn’t go missing; the paperwork did.

Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/20/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-says-6-billion-went-missing-state-de/



Trump lies once every three minutes and his followers gobble it up. It's disturbing to see him manipulate gullible people like that.

[Grizz]

It just kills you that I am so good, doesn't it?

Good times.
Sure, and that's why you keep gathering infractions.

[Captain Obvious]

The poll is closed already but I'll say 50-75% of them

[Grizz]

No more than any other candidate, but he isn't that murdering sociopath Bitch*ery.

[resister]

You sure as hell took libertys in your"creative" list...LOL...

[resister]

Fair enough. However I highly doubt there will be an actual wall. It will be rolled back to a fence or strengthened border. Sort of what you have nowsure pall

[resister]

I think: He will not, unless forced to, by public outcry, go after Clinton. She will be allowed to slink away, she's finished in politics. His statement " If I'm elected I'll"~ I believe was to point out criminal wrong doing. He, President Trump isn't mean spirited, he'll let her leave with her clothing intact and hair looking nice.

Let them go in peace, President Obama doesn't have to be the enemy any longer, I don't think he want to, he's done what he's done, what he thought was the right thing to do, but it won't be carried on by the next administration.

This is the time for all Americans, not to be hindered by ghosts of past administrations. This is our time.
he won't, but there are plenty of others who will.He will pull a Pontius pilate, then she will be crucified.Rightfully so

[stjames1_53]

The current border is actually more fortified and is stronger than it ever has been in the history of the US.

huh.....then explain how 21 million illegals got in................

[Grizz]

What they are trying to hide is that Obambi ordered the Border Patrol to "stand down".

[resister]

huh.....then explain how 21 million illegals got in................
Oh shit facts....hhmmm...wheels spinning, zero grease

[stjames1_53]

Seth Meyers puts Trump on notice about his campaign promises.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEskg0Z-NAQ

imagine that, msm is now Trump's advisor....................seriously, I doubt that..........Seth Meyers predicted a Clinton win, was so damned sure of it...and now he's gonna put Trump on notice?
nothing like hot air feeding climate change.......hahahahahahaha

[resister]

What they are trying to hide is that Obambi ordered the Border Patrol to "stand down".And coddling the shit outta illegals

[Tahuyaman]

How many campaign Promises will Trump break?
Will politifact come up with a Trumpmeter like the Obameter and claim his broken promises are all "stalled", "compromised" or "in the works"?

[Captain Obvious]

How many campaign Promises will Trump break?


Will politifact come up with a Trumpmeter like the Obameter and claim his broken promises are all "stalled", "compromised" or "in the works"?

Don't leave the coffee pot on

[crowonapost]

Seems abandonment is the Trump way. (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443251/donald-trump-abandons-movement-campaign-promises)

So probably every promise.

[resister]

Seems abandonment is the Trump way. (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443251/donald-trump-abandons-movement-campaign-promises)

So probably every promise.
He already fulfilled one, did you read the entire post?

[Bethere]

You sure as hell took libertys in your"creative" list...LOL...
Liberties.

[resister]

Liberties.Your so helpful , thanks a lot little bear.

[patrickt]

Suddenly, someone expects a president to keep his or her promises. I wonder why that is? I do think the Trumpkins who are already cheering what a President Trump will do are fools.

Of course, the leftists who are busy trying to convince us that Barack Obama was the great president ever are also fools. It won't be the liberal media that writes his history although they are writing the propaganda for the DNC.

[decedent]

imagine that, msm is now Trump's advisor....................seriously, I doubt that..........Seth Meyers predicted a Clinton win, was so damned sure of it...and now he's gonna put Trump on notice?
nothing like hot air feeding climate change.......hahahahahahaha
Everyone predicted a Clinton win because it was clear that she'd get more voters.


And she did, almost 3 million more. The nation chose the smart, reliable, experienced one and ended up with the dumb, corrupt, lying one. Sad.

[Newpublius]

Everyone predicted a Clinton win because it was clear that she'd get more voters.


And she did, almost 3 million more. The nation chose the smart, reliable, experienced one and ended up with the dumb, corrupt, lying one. Sad.

The nation didn't choose shit. The 'nation' is split, bottom line is that the people who have an interest in taking income from others slightly outnumber those who prefer to keep it. Naturally those people proliferate in cities and urban area, we have the great expanse, where America is actually nice.

[hanger4]

Everyone predicted a Clinton win because it was clear that she'd get more voters.


And she did, almost 3 million more. The nation chose the smart, reliable, experienced one and ended up with the dumb, corrupt, fascist one. Sad.

Then maybe all those predictors should pay more attention to the EC.

BTW in your Hillary descriptor you forgot, total incompetence handling classified information.

[decedent]

Then maybe all those predictors should pay more attention to the EC.

BTW in your Hillary descriptor you forgot, total incompetence handling classified information.

After Trump was allowed to have security briefings, he told a crowd of people about a secret video where pallets of ransom money was being offloaded from a plane in Iran. The babbermouth described what he saw in great detail. Or maybe he just lied about the whole thing?

[Trish]

I think the poll should have been opened longer! I missed voting and now my vote won't be anonymous. What the heck. I'm gonna guess that he'll break about 70% of his promises. Sadly, because he's so unstable I predict he will probably be very successful domestically moving his agenda forward. One area he will do well with is infrastructure. That will put many people to work but the problem he is going to run into is that I've heard many in the field are worried that they will not have the workforce for the infrastructure projects that Donald has said he wants. You just can't hire any Tom, Dick, or Harry. Those types of jobs require skill. I further predict that his downfall will be with the international community and how he handles global issues.

[hanger4]

After Trump was allowed to have security briefings, he told a crowd of people about a secret video where pallets of ransom money was being offloaded from a plane in Iran. The babbermouth described what he saw in great detail. Or maybe he just lied about the whole thing?

Apparently he lied, it was a vid shot inGeneva. So your classified information comparison failed.

[decedent]

Apparently he lied, it was a vid shot inGeneva. So your classified information comparison failed.

I didn't make a comparison.


I was just exposing how Trump can't be trusted. As you suggested, he's either a liar or a security threat. Either way, his worshippers don't care.

[Subdermal]

Everyone predicted a Clinton win because it was clear that she'd get more voters.
And she did, almost 3 million more. The nation chose the smart, reliable, experienced one and ended up with the dumb, corrupt, lying one. Sad.

Oh, your characterization is sad, to be sure.

Without New York, and LA County, Trump wins the popular vote by 500,000 votes. The nation chose Trump. Two liberal infections chose the infection running.

You lost. You'll continue to lose.

[decedent]

Oh, your characterization is sad, to be sure.

Without New York, and LA County, Trump wins the popular vote by 500,000 votes. The nation chose Trump. Two liberal infections chose the infection running.

You lost. You'll continue to lose.

Thanks, I hadn't realized that New York and LA County weren't part of America.


Like it or not, even liberals get to vote.

[Peter1469]

Thanks, I hadn't realized that New York and LA County weren't part of America.


Like it or not, even liberals get to vote.

And the Electoral College doesn't let them run ruff-shod over real Americans.

[hanger4]

I didn't make a comparison.


I was just exposing how Trump can't be trusted. As you suggested, he's either a liar or a security threat. Either way, his worshippers don't care.

Sure ya did and it was a piss poor job of deflection from Hillary's incompetence handling classified information.

[birddog]

As I have stated, if Trump accomplishes 25% of what he said he would, he will have accomplished more than any president in decades. I believe he will do that and more. There will be roadblocks to many of his promises, but partial progress will be better than nothing.

[decedent]

Sure ya did and it was a piss poor job of deflection from Hillary's incompetence handling classified information.

No, I never mentioned Hillary. Your obsession with her is consuming you.

[suds00]

he wants to start an arms race.

[hanger4]

No, I never mentioned Hillary. Your obsession with her is consuming you.

My quote;



Then maybe all those predictors should pay more attention to the EC.

BTW in your Hillary descriptor you forgot, total incompetence handling classified information.

Your response;



After Trump was allowed to have security briefings, he told a crowd of people about a secret video where pallets of ransom money was being offloaded from a plane in Iran. The babbermouth described what he saw in great detail. Or maybe he just lied about the whole thing?

Obviously a tit for tat comparison.

[Bethere]

No, I never mentioned Hillary. Your obsession with her is consuming you.She had a private server, don't you know?

lmao.

[decedent]

Obviously a tit for tat comparison.

No, it was not. Quit putting words in my mouth. I never mentioned Hillary... you did. Obsession.

[Peter1469]

Nobody supported Clinton it seems. :shocked:

[Grizz]

Here are some of Trump's promises that he made during his campaigning:

Get rid of gun-free zones (on his first day)
Get rid of Obama's executive orders on immigration (on his first day)
Grow the nation's economy by at least 6%
Reduce the $18 trillion national debt
Cut the budget by only renegotiating
Heavily monitor mosques
Build a wall along the southern border
Make Mexico pay for the wall
force everyone to say "Merry Christmas" again
Get rid of Common Core
Get rid of the EPA
Rebuild the country's infrastructure
Save entitlements without cutting benefits
Defund Planned Parenthood
Ban most foreign Muslims from entering the US
Ban Syrian refugees from entering the US
Kick out all Syrian refugees
Create a database of Muslims
Never take a vacation as President
Prosecute Hillary
Stop space exploration spending
Pick a Supreme Court justice who's a legal scholar
Strenghthen the military
Let Russia take care of ISIS
Bomb the $#@! out of ISIS
Kill relatives of terrorists
Shut down parts of the Internet
Bring back waterboarding
Leave troops in Afghanistan
Renegotiate the current Iran deal
Fire the VA leaders
Invest in veteran's civilian integration
Bring jobs back from China
Guarantee jobs for students at Wofford College
Crack down on China's theft and lax labor laws
Put Carl Icahn in charge of China-Japan trade
Impose a 35% tax on Ford if they build in Mexico
Force Nabisco to make Oreos in the US
Get rid of the Consumer Protection Act
Reduce the number of tax brackets to 4
No longer charge income tax to individuals earning less than $25K
No longer charge income tax to couples earning less than $50K
Allow corporations a one-time window to bring back overseas money
Get rid of most corporate loopholes and incentives
Ensure the death penalty for anyone who kills a cop
Deport the ~11 million illegal immigrants
Triple the Customs officers
End birthright citizenship
Cut 10% of federal regulations

I'm sure that Trump is a very honest person who would never con his voters in what might have been the biggest swindle in modern history, right?
Oh c'mon jizz bucket, do you cry about EVERYTHING?
They ALL break promises.

[hanger4]

No, it was not. Quit putting words in my mouth. I never mentioned Hillary... you did. Obsession.

Who put words in mouth ?? I posted your words.

[hanger4]

Oh c'mon jizz bucket, do you cry about EVERYTHING?
They ALL break promises.

Come on Grizz, "jizz bucket" is unnecessary.

[Dr. Who]

Oh c'mon jizz bucket, do you cry about EVERYTHING?
They ALL break promises.

Infraction for Grizz for name calling.

[crowonapost]

He already fulfilled one, did you read the entire post?

Yes.
Hillary was her own worst enemy. Anyone could have beat her because she was an insular elitist fool.
It was such a low bar that in all honesty I'd say all Trump had to do which he did was just stand aside & let her punch herself in the face.

[Safety]

Who put words in mouth ?? I posted your words.

And from what you posted, he didn't mention her.

[hanger4]

And from what you posted, he didn't mention her.

Post #73

Obviously a tit for tat comparison.

If you'd really care to catch up then start with post 59 Safety where decedent mentions Hillary.

[Docthehun]

Get the rules committee together and decide exactly how the "promises" will be scored. If for example, Trump builds the wall, but only gets Mexico to pick up 1/2 the tab, will that be a "promise" kept? Half a point? One and a half? None? Seriously, we need these scoring issues clearly defined by the 20th.

Merry Christmas!

[Safety]

Post #73

Obviously a tit for tat comparison.

If you'd really care to catch up then start with post 59 Safety where decedent mentions Hillary.

You mean the post where he was directly addressing st_james's mention of the prediction of a Clinton win?

[hanger4]

You mean the post where he was directly addressing st_james's mention of the prediction of a Clinton win?

Irrelevant Safety.


Everyone predicted a Clinton win because it was clear that she'd get more voters.


And she did, almost 3 million more. The nation chose the smart, reliable, experienced one and ended up with the dumb, corrupt, lying one. Sad.

My response was directed toward his Hillary descriptors. decedent mentioned Hillary, I responded.

[decedent]

"Mexico will pay for it"


Ok, so Congress will pay for it, which means the taxpayers.


The wall was never needed (illegal immigration has been declining for years), but a demagogue's job is to make the current situation look abysmal. But don't worry -- he's going to make America great again as he pretends to invent new jobs for non-brown people because, supposedly, illegal immigrants took all the jobs.


The far right says immigrants have taken all the jobs. They say that "illegals" don't work. The story changes from week to week. All I know is that the idea of a wall helps them sleep at night... a they pay through the nose.

[suds00]

he scares me.

[NapRover]

Mexico will pay for it.