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FindersKeepers
11-12-2016, 09:29 AM
If you never watch another video -- watch this short one.

And learn...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

valley ranch
11-12-2016, 10:07 AM
Yah, that was good ~ the Marx bate limey got the Western fresh water Lenninist MO but! Still doesn't under stand there The American Culture~And a Brain on the other side of the Argument*

The American All who voted for or against or didn't vote at all~we little us, All of U.S. Today have a President Elect that doesn't think we're Damn Fools or voting fodder.

We Americans today are more together~in~ our private thinking than the foreign ideology that in the guise of an elite political movement had control of our throats.

How many of them who ever they are, where ever they are~how many of U.S. understand that?

This is the time for all of us~all who feel Americans to work with our government~after all~our government does work for U.S.

We all are winners~Americans won this time.

MRogersNhood
11-12-2016, 10:10 AM
It was backlash against the globalist/elite machine~!

If only those lemmings around Trump tower knew they're chanting mantras of a real Nazi.

The funding provided by a guy that used to herd his fellow Jews into gas chambers.

MMC
11-12-2016, 10:13 AM
Lets not forget how the MS Media, helped with all of that. Now people think of them worse than they do those in Congress.

FindersKeepers
11-12-2016, 10:49 AM
Yah, that was good ~ the Marx bate limey got the Western fresh water Lenninist MO but! Still doesn't under stand there The American Culture~And a Brain on the other side of the Argument*

The American All who voted for or against or didn't vote at all~we little us, All of U.S. Today have a President Elect that doesn't think we're Damn Fools or voting fodder.

We Americans today are more together~in~ our private thinking than the foreign ideology that in the guise of an elite political movement had control of our throats.

How many of them who ever they are, where ever they are~how many of U.S. understand that?

This is the time for all of us~all who feel Americans to work with our government~after all~our government does work for U.S.

We all are winners~Americans won this time.

Exactly. They'll never understand solid Americans but they need to take notice of how we respond to their accusatory/shaming tactics. This has been building since before Obama even took office, but in the last two to three years, it just exploded. Our nation is more divided than ever, although Obama claimed to want to unite us and we're seeing the results of a grassroots backlash against the Progressive meme.

FindersKeepers
11-12-2016, 10:50 AM
It was backlash against the globalist/elite machine~!

If only those lemmings around Trump tower knew they're chanting mantras of a real Nazi.

The funding provided by a guy that used to herd his fellow Jews into gas chambers.

Yes. They certainly ARE chanting the mantras once heard in Nazi Germany, but for some odd reason, perhaps because they're the ones chanting -- they simply don't understand the dangers.

FindersKeepers
11-12-2016, 10:52 AM
Lets not forget how the MS Media, helped with all of that. Now people think of them worse than they do those in Congress.

Absolutely -- the MSM turned out to be their own worst enemy. Leaking debate questions to Hillary, pushing the Progressive cause, without a clue as to why they were doing it.

They greatly contributed to the rise of Trump.

I am reminded of Huff-Po's HUGE error at the start of the campaign when they said they would only publish news of Trump on their "Entertainment" pages.

Well, Huff-and-Puff, are you entertained now???

MMC
11-12-2016, 11:02 AM
Absolutely -- the MSM turned out to be their own worst enemy. Leaking debate questions to Hillary, pushing the Progressive cause, without a clue as to why they were doing it.

They greatly contributed to the rise of Trump.

I am reminded of Huff-Po's HUGE error at the start of the campaign when they said they would only publish news of Trump on their "Entertainment" pages.

Well, Huff-and-Puff, are you entertained now???

Trump should have thrown a sword at them and said that. :laugh:

Croft
11-12-2016, 11:11 AM
Take out California complete with it's voters legalized by Clinton in the 90s and Berkley brainwashed monkeys and Trump won the popular vote by about 2 million. And he did it without the Never Trump establishment snobs who refused to vote for him.

If he holds true to his promises and makes genuine efforts to get jobs back by changing Nafta and negotiating other such deals as well as kicking out millions of illegals competing with the poorest Americans then he should win in 4 years by a landslide. His Never Trump lost votes were replaced by people voting for the first time ever and overwhelmingly they were the poorest Americans. If he comes through for them then Trump's attraction to minorities will go up, to poorest whites will go up and to anyone who will then be able to see corporate rule policies were an obvious disaster for America.

If he can also do something about ending the commie brainwashing in the universities so we have less of those alternately vicious scumbags/snowflakes loons being churned out then the Corporate Establishment Dems will lose their useful idiots organizing class.

By being a representative instead of a liar like the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas he can make it that the comeback trail to power for the elite and their professional liars will be almost impossible.

midcan5
11-12-2016, 11:21 AM
LOL Democrats haven't won the white vote since civil rights, 53 percent of white women voted for a misogynist, narcissist who made fun of them and even made fun of a handicapped reporter. Obama only won 43% of the white vote. The inclusiveness, openness, and tolerance of the democrats doesn't work among a broad spectrum of the populace. It is only minority voting that saves us from theocracy or the KKK as Louisiana demonstrated. Considering Trump is more liberal than Hillary in many areas, it should be interesting. He played a great actor for a year and half what person will appear now. Repost below.

The same people who voted in Jimmie Carter voted in Donald Trump and to say much of it wasn't racist backlash against our President and his policies of inclusion is simply wrong. The whites voted this time and the evangelicals came out in numbers like they did for Carter and Reagan. McCain lost because Bush Jr screwed up badly and eight years of stupidity were enough. Romney lost this vote because he came across as less authentic and he is a Mormon. Wake up and smell the reality folks. MSM lives in a reflective bubble in which they pass around profundities to each other not realizing the room that encloses them. Right wing media works, it knows what buttons to push, open borders, dog whistles, Muslim hatred, Washington elites, liberals, change, marriage equality, bathroom access, planned parenthood ....any need to go on?

"If we would learn what the human race really is at bottom, we need only observe it in election times." Mark Twain

Edit: Republicans learned from Carter's win seems no one else did.

Does anyone find it ironic that the man who will now travel on your taxes pays none.

Subdermal
11-12-2016, 11:28 AM
Meh.

The guy is a true believer in his ideology. His problem, however, is that he actually believes that those who are the PsTB who impose his ideology on others {a} actually can be convinced to want free thought and open discourse; that {b} they truly believe it themselves (they, by and large, do not: they are the "for thee but not me" crowd), and {c} that all it would take for his ideology to dominate the political landscape is to openly discuss it with which to begin.

That's not true. There has been however, without question, a backlash against the truly suppressive tactics of these leftists, in the manner and type which he cites, but simply ceasing these tactics won't help.

The majority do not want his ideology. Hillary didn't fail because she failed to disseminate her message. She failed because she succeeded in doing so - along with being one of the most corrupt and unlikeable political candidates in history.

He's welcome to be open and honest about what he wants. The problem is that - at some point - he will arrive at the point that those who are truly the Left's power brokers are at present: they long ago determined that their ideology is not popular with the majority...and that's why long ago, the Left's strategy shifted from changing hearts and minds, to simply forcing legislative change through the Judiciary.

That isn't to say that their brainwashed conditioning hasn't had an effect on the young: it has. They, however, grow up.

Croft
11-12-2016, 11:33 AM
He won the white vote big but actually got 1 percent less of that vote than Romney. Romney lost. He got slightly more black and hispanic votes than Romney, and a lot more Asian votes He won because the black vote didn't turn up for Clinton. Yes she got most of those who did turnout but their turnout was smaller by several million. They abandoned her to letting the chips fall where they may including the chance therefore of a Trump win.

He didn't win because whites turned out for him in droves, but because blacks didn't turn up for her enough.

decedent
11-12-2016, 11:36 AM
If you never watch another video -- watch this short one.

And learn...

I agree with most of what this person is saying. I take issue with two things, though.

Hillary wasn't as cozy with Wall Street as many people say. She proposed several Wall Street regulations.

Also, I don't think America was ready for Sanders. He may be polling well now, but he didn't have to endure the presidential election. I doubt he'd do any better than Clinton simply because of the "socialist" label.

Hillary's ground game was off. More people voted for her than for Trump, but she couldn't convert those votes to the swing states. She wasn't as unpopular as this guy manically implies.

Green Arrow
11-12-2016, 12:23 PM
I watched that clip earlier this morning, and he's right in a lot of ways.

However, it's pretty clear that the biggest reason Trump won was because Clinton gift-wrapped the Rust Belt to him and never set foot in Wisconsin or Michigan once the primary ended. Keep Wisconsin and Pennsylvania blue and Trump loses.

MRogersNhood
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
I watched that clip earlier this morning, and he's right in a lot of ways.

However, it's pretty clear that the biggest reason Trump won was because Clinton gift-wrapped the Rust Belt to him and never set foot in Wisconsin or Michigan once the primary ended. Keep Wisconsin and Pennsylvania blue and Trump loses.

Yeah,but that's not what happened,though. ;)

Peter1469
11-12-2016, 01:09 PM
Or women don't agree with your view of Trump.


So far as the video goes- I doubt Sanders could have won. He would not have had the Establishment working for him like Hillary did.

This was as I called it over a year ago: nationalism v. globalism. Nationalism won.


LOL Democrats haven't won the white vote since civil rights, 53 percent of white women voted for a misogynist, narcissist who made fun of them and even made fun of a handicapped reporter. Obama only won 43% of the white vote. The inclusiveness, openness, and tolerance of the democrats doesn't work among a broad spectrum of the populace. It is only minority voting that saves us from theocracy or the KKK as Louisiana demonstrated. Considering Trump is more liberal than Hillary in many areas, it should be interesting. He played a great actor for a year and half what person will appear now. Repost below.

The same people who voted in Jimmie Carter voted in Donald Trump and to say much of it wasn't racist backlash against our President and his policies of inclusion is simply wrong. The whites voted this time and the evangelicals came out in numbers like they did for Carter and Reagan. McCain lost because Bush Jr screwed up badly and eight years of stupidity were enough. Romney lost this vote because he came across as less authentic and he is a Mormon. Wake up and smell the reality folks. MSM lives in a reflective bubble in which they pass around profundities to each other not realizing the room that encloses them. Right wing media works, it knows what buttons to push, open borders, dog whistles, Muslim hatred, Washington elites, liberals, change, marriage equality, bathroom access, planned parenthood ....any need to go on?

"If we would learn what the human race really is at bottom, we need only observe it in election times." Mark Twain

Edit: Republicans learned from Carter's win seems no one else did.

Does anyone find it ironic that the man who will now travel on your taxes pays none.

Green Arrow
11-12-2016, 01:43 PM
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Yeah,but that's not what happened,though. ;)
No, but it could have if Hillary had campaigned there more or if the Democrats had nominated Sanders.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:01 AM
I agree with most of what this person is saying. I take issue with two things, though.
Hillary wasn't as cozy with Wall Street as many people say. She proposed several Wall Street regulations.
Also, I don't think America was ready for Sanders. He may be polling well now, but he didn't have to endure the presidential election. I doubt he'd do any better than Clinton simply because of the "socialist" label.
Hillary's ground game was off. More people voted for her than for Trump, but she couldn't convert those votes to the swing states. She wasn't as unpopular as this guy manically implies.

You make a good point about Sanders and the "socialist" label. Oddly though, even though I live in deep red Bible Belt country, I didn't hear a lot bad about Sanders during the primaries. Most of the talk was negative toward Hillary, but Sanders was called a "nice guy."

Hillary was popular in highly-populated coastal states, for sure.

We truly have outgrown the presidential system. Trump might be able to support the center of the nation, and Clinton may have been able to support the coasts -- as Obama did -- but we are too geographically diversified for one president to support all of us.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:09 AM
I watched that clip earlier this morning, and he's right in a lot of ways.

However, it's pretty clear that the biggest reason Trump won was because Clinton gift-wrapped the Rust Belt to him and never set foot in Wisconsin or Michigan once the primary ended. Keep Wisconsin and Pennsylvania blue and Trump loses.

I think the biggest problem was that the democrats ran her at all. After the DNC decided she was "the one," no other candidates, save Sanders, dared to challenge her. I think people are getting tired of what I heard described as a "Game of Thrones" with the presidency, in which another Clinton and another Bush both threw their hats in the ring.

The GOP soundly rejected Jeb from the get-go, so strong was the drive for something different.

In the final two weeks before the general -- here in KS -- we were seeing Stein ads that trashed Hillary. Why, and who was paying for them, I haven't a clue, but when everything was in an uproar -- those ads didn't help Hillary's cause.

The lesson, if there is one, from the video clip for me, is that the elites that run these parties need to start listening to the people, instead of foisting candidates upon them for their own reasons. The GOP elites never supported Trump -- and that might have been what put him over the top in the swing states.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:14 AM
Or women don't agree with your view of Trump.


So far as the video goes- I doubt Sanders could have won. He would not have had the Establishment working for him like Hillary did.

This was as I called it over a year ago: nationalism v. globalism. Nationalism won.

That is such a good point.

We live in the most powerful, productive nation in the world and our citizens are getting tired of propping up the rest of the globe at our expense. Just because we have a way of life we love does not mean we are willing to reduce our standards so others can "catch up."

We're tired of being cursed by second-world nations who then turn around and demand money and protection from us. The head of NATO just issued a warning to Trump that the US better not try to "go it alone."

We live in interesting times.

del
11-13-2016, 05:24 AM
trump won because h.l. mencken was right



The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre—the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Peter1469
11-13-2016, 05:27 AM
That is such a good point.

We live in the most powerful, productive nation in the world and our citizens are getting tired of propping up the rest of the globe at our expense. Just because we have a way of life we love does not mean we are willing to reduce our standards so others can "catch up."

We're tired of being cursed by second-world nations who then turn around and demand money and protection from us. The head of NATO just issued a warning to Trump that the US better not try to "go it alone."

We live in interesting times.


Yes. Next up, national elections in France and Germany.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:44 AM
Yes. Next up, national elections in France and Germany.

Some of the globalization push has been Soros-funded, in addition to being promoted annually to the puppets-in-power who attend Bilderberg, to learn the wonderful ways of bypassing sovereign governments.

Soros can't last much longer, though, and although his kid is prepping for the position, I doubt he'll have his father's drive and Soros' Open Society will soon be a bad and faded memory.

Yes, upcoming elections will be interesting to watch. The pendulum is swinging to the other side. Slowly, but surely.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:46 AM
trump won because h.l. mencken was right

Elaborate please.

del
11-13-2016, 05:49 AM
Elaborate please.
read the quote.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 05:55 AM
read the quote.

It doesn't really apply.

del
11-13-2016, 05:59 AM
It doesn't really apply.

i'm sure you think so.

MRogersNhood
11-13-2016, 06:20 AM
No, but it could have if Hillary had campaigned there more or if the Democrats had nominated Sanders.

It'll be OK. :icon_smile:

donttread
11-13-2016, 09:46 AM
If you never watch another video -- watch this short one.

And learn...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs


Do you have a video where he was this sure of the victory and the reasons why BEFORE hand? Because I could respect that.