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Docthehun
11-13-2016, 08:19 AM
To my fellow Republicans and Trump supporters. Many of you are salivating over the notion of us having control over all three branches of the Federal Government. I don't like that scenario, that concentration of power. Things could unravel even before he takes office. Unlike the past three Republican Presidents, it's unclear who's really "King of the Hill". To some, particularly his most ardent cheerleaders, clearly it's President-elect Trump.


I think if you were on the inside, you'd soon realize the race to the top of the heap has just begun. Suitors from the swamp are already pushing to line up. If you've been paying attention, there's a list of "retirees" from Newt to Rudy to Boehner looking to get back in, although Boehner isn't putting all his chips in one place. Then there's Mitch, who is almost smug in his delusion that he'll be the guy really piloting the ship. Paul Ryan is hanging on to Mitch's shirttail much in the same manner that he's trying hold on to the Speakership helm.


Then there's "Lying" Ted. My "right of Rush", carpet bagging buddy who now calls Texas home (and the greatest State in the Union), said "Ted Cruz couldn't get elected Dog Catcher in Texas" after the convention. I'm pretty certain Ted doesn't, in his delusional way, concur with that assessment. He did after all, finish right behind Trump.


Also in line, the apparently, "ex" establishment contingency; the Reagan-Bush camp. That is the true, good old boy club. Deep pockets. They like "sure things" not gambles. They're obviously not falling in line.


"Little" Marco and his potential appeal to the fastest growing voting block. In the mix, the extremely unpopular RINO's, who are actually the good guys, but all the above can't see the writing on the walls. That could quickly change in four years. "Here today, gone tomorrow."

"Dog eat Dog" in the Grand Old Party.

Common
11-13-2016, 08:27 AM
I have to agree with you, I prefer balance. Remember the dems having control of all 3 branchs and what that got us, Obamacare.

Checks and balance are always a preferred means of operating.

DGUtley
11-13-2016, 08:55 AM
Agree. Someone has to protect us from ourselves.

Peter1469
11-13-2016, 09:09 AM
I prefer divided government. Did anyone expect the Dems to do so poorly?

Subdermal
11-13-2016, 09:36 AM
:facepalm:

It's sentiments like the OP's which make so many Republicans utter losers. It's the same sentiment that had so many of these same losers claiming that they were Republican, but also claiming they were going to vote for Hillary.

Kill yourselves.

NapRover
11-13-2016, 09:50 AM
I want him to do the things he talked about, but they would be impossible with divided government. I don't advocate ramming things through like Obamacare (not a single GOP vote), I think the deal maker will make deals. That's fine with me, I'll give some to get some.

MRogersNhood
11-13-2016, 09:52 AM
We'll just see what happens.
Given the Soros-funded protests,well, that's not good.
It's a long way to 1/20
Are we going to have to stretch Obama's neck or no?
That all depends on him.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 10:00 AM
I prefer balance as well. It typically works out the best for the average American.

Subdermal
11-13-2016, 10:06 AM
I prefer balance as well. It typically works out the best for the average American.
This, too, is emblematic of the exact form of loser defeatism I cite. How would you know that "balance" works out best, when there are so few examples - nearly none, in the last 80 years - of a real GOP ideology being implemented without measurable challenge?

It's like saying "I prefer balance in my motor oil. We need some water in there for things to work out best".

:facepalm:

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 10:34 AM
This, too, is emblematic of the exact form of loser defeatism I cite. How would you know that "balance" works out best, when there are so few examples - nearly none, in the last 80 years - of a real GOP ideology being implemented without measurable challenge?

Any extreme works to our detriment. We can see that clearly in the passage of the PPACA when dems held the House, the Senate and the White House. There was no real discussion -- no compromise.

Most Americans are more in the moderate or centrist range than at either of the far Right and Left fringes.


It's like saying "I prefer balance in my motor oil. We need some water in there for things to work out best".
:facepalm:

I don't think that's a good analogy, because water is not an integral part of motor oil, whereas both Republicans and Democrats ARE an integral part of our governmental leadership.

Rather, it's like water and dish soap. While you might have a preference of dish soap -- and a preference for water temperature, you can't wash and rinse the dirty dishes without some of both.

Docthehun
11-13-2016, 10:46 AM
:facepalm:

It's sentiments like the OP's which make so many Republicans utter losers. It's the same sentiment that had so many of these same losers claiming that they were Republican, but also claiming they were going to vote for Hillary.

Kill yourselves.

Have a stellar day. Live long and prosper.

DGUtley
11-13-2016, 10:48 AM
Have a stellar day. Live long and prosper.

good times!!

AeonPax
11-13-2016, 10:51 AM
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It's time for a third party. I'm sticking with the Greens.

Newpublius
11-13-2016, 01:26 PM
I prefer fiscally responsible limited government, but to your point I already know the pendulum will swings

Subdermal
11-13-2016, 01:39 PM
Any extreme works to our detriment.

Oh bullsht. Extreme as defined by who? Have you not been paying attention? Real Originalism is being described as extreme.


We can see that clearly in the passage of the PPACA when dems held the House, the Senate and the White House. There was no real discussion -- no compromise.

Stop arguing a case that I'm not asserting. I do not defend LEFTIST policy, FFS. That'd be like saying "we shouldn't use motor oil in this engine; let's use water!

:facepalm:

Most Americans are more in the moderate or centrist range than at either of the far Right and Left fringes.

Again you argue an assertion not tabled. Who the fock cares? This is about what will WORK. And your bullsht moderate nonsense won't, and hasn't.

I don't think that's a good analogy, because water is not an integral part of motor oil, whereas both Republicans and Democrats ARE an integral part of our governmental leadership.

:biglaugh: Your objection to my analogy is laughable. In no way are Communists disguised as Democrats "an integral part of our Governmental leadership", part-time leftist.

This, in fact, doesn't have a God-damned thing to do with party at all. My assertion has to do with Conservative IDEAS, and in scarce few times in the last century have they had a chance to be implemented. On the contrary: they've been bulldozed by leftists and weakling losers who claim to be something other than leftists.

Rather, it's like water and dish soap. While you might have a preference of dish soap -- and a preference for water temperature, you can't wash and rinse the dirty dishes without some of both.

Now THAT'S a horrible analogy. We know that in order to actually best succeed when washing dishes, there is a recipe. You're attempting to assert that leftist ideas are exactly as legitimate to include in the operation of our country and in defense of our Constitution as are Conservative ideas.

You can throw that trite crap straight out.

You can either defend the proper course of action, or you allow it to be diluted and lessen or possibly entirely eliminate its effectiveness.

Or make it harmful. Wake the fock up.

exploited
11-13-2016, 01:46 PM
Congratulations Trumpkins - this is the type of person you have enabled.

Subdermal
11-13-2016, 02:19 PM
Congratulations Trumpkins - this is the type of person you have enabled.

You haven't been enabled. You've been exposed, and then crippled.

FindersKeepers
11-13-2016, 02:49 PM
My assertion has to do with Conservative IDEAS, and in scarce few times in the last century have they had a chance to be implemented. On the contrary: they've been bulldozed by leftists and weakling losers who claim to be something other than leftists..

There are conservative ideas, and then there are conservative ideas.
As a fiscal conservative, I support some of Trump's ideas for strengthening the economy and bolstering the US dollar. But, I'm not a social conservative, and I can't support the far-right that lands squarely in the lap of the evangelical sector.

And, I've found most people think, at least somewhat, similarly to me.

We will have to wait and see what happens in the next two years, but if the GOP abuses its majority, it'll be upended at the midterms.

JDubya
11-13-2016, 10:55 PM
The Republicans are going to come out of this "total victory" looking like stumble bums.

The gang that couldn't shoot straight.

Keystone Cops.

It will be entertaining to watch Trump implode.

I wonder how long it will be before the first indictment.

del
11-13-2016, 11:01 PM
:facepalm:

It's sentiments like the OP's which make so many Republicans utter losers. It's the same sentiment that had so many of these same losers claiming that they were Republican, but also claiming they were going to vote for Hillary.

Kill yourselves.
aw, derpie

is the bloom off your rose?

lol

Dr. Who
11-13-2016, 11:22 PM
Oh bullsht. Extreme as defined by who? Have you not been paying attention? Real Originalism is being described as extreme.



Stop arguing a case that I'm not asserting. I do not defend LEFTIST policy, FFS. That'd be like saying "we shouldn't use motor oil in this engine; let's use water!

:facepalm:


Again you argue an assertion not tabled. Who the fock cares? This is about what will WORK. And your bullsht moderate nonsense won't, and hasn't.


:biglaugh: Your objection to my analogy is laughable. In no way are Communists disguised as Democrats "an integral part of our Governmental leadership", part-time leftist.

This, in fact, doesn't have a God-damned thing to do with party at all. My assertion has to do with Conservative IDEAS, and in scarce few times in the last century have they had a chance to be implemented. On the contrary: they've been bulldozed by leftists and weakling losers who claim to be something other than leftists.


Now THAT'S a horrible analogy. We know that in order to actually best succeed when washing dishes, there is a recipe. You're attempting to assert that leftist ideas are exactly as legitimate to include in the operation of our country and in defense of our Constitution as are Conservative ideas.

You can throw that trite crap straight out.

You can either defend the proper course of action, or you allow it to be diluted and lessen or possibly entirely eliminate its effectiveness.

Or make it harmful. Wake the fock up.
There is no example in the world where extreme political polarity has ever been a good thing. There is a yin and yang in life and either one alone can be disastrous. The title of this OP is be careful of what you wish for. Those who lean to the right in America have no idea how far right can become. Without checks and balances you might well have a society resembling Iran. If you think Christianity wasn't every bit as socially controlling and oppressive as Islam is today, do a little historical research. The reason that it's not is due to liberalism. You may want that kind of controlling society, but the vast majority do not. From a fiscal perspective, you don't have to go back more than a couple of hundred years to find child labor and starvation. The extreme right is brutal, unforgiving and panders only to the wealthy.

resister
11-13-2016, 11:24 PM
There is no example in the world where extreme political polarity has ever been a good thing. There is a yin and yang in life and either one alone can be disastrous. The title of this OP is be careful of what you wish for. Those who lean to the right in America have no idea how far right can become. Without checks and balances you might well have a society resembling Iran. If you think Christianity wasn't every bit as socially controlling and oppressive as Islam is today, do a little historical research. The reason that it's not is due to liberalism. You may want that kind of controlling society, but the vast majority do not. From a fiscal perspective, you don't have to go back more than a couple of hundred years to find child labor and starvation. The extreme right is brutal, unforgiving and panders only to the wealthy.
So what happens when the left is left unchecked?

Dr. Who
11-14-2016, 12:08 AM
So what happens when the left is left unchecked?

It is similarly out of control. The extreme left is rather anarchistic but social. It is interesting because people equate socialism with the extreme left, but it's not. It's just a different economic paradigm, but it's not anarchistic. In either economic paradigm there can be authoritarianism, however, those who subscribe to the right view seem to be more socially authoritarian and more fiscally unforgiving. Individualistic if you prefer. Each to his own ability to provide, even if not all are equally capable, leaving it to charity to take care of those who are wanting. However, as we all know, charity is undependable.

The left and right also have different definitions of freedom. The left prefers that people can all live without suffering and depredation and will pay for it, while the right don't care to pay for the weakness of their fellow man in taxes, but would rather pay probably just as much privately and in taxes for direct action against those who are without any resources. The veritable police state will not come from the left, but the right.

Hal Jordan
11-14-2016, 03:42 AM
Don't worry. Republicans only control the Congress. Trump is really not a Republican, and the Supreme court will likely not be either. (spare me the excuse of the list he offered while lying) Just wait.

Docthehun
11-14-2016, 09:23 AM
Co-bosses. This should be interesting. The ex-RNC Chairman vs "This guy". Who's your money on?

https://gma.yahoo.com/hate-speech-muslim-groups-decry-trumps-newly-appointed-112103055--abc-news-topstories.html

In the interest of fair and balanced, I inadvertently failed to mention some of the team owners. My apology. Usually, the owners have some say in "who's really running the show".

http://www.ecowatch.com/koch-brothers-climate-change-2091154276.html

Cigar
11-14-2016, 09:25 AM
To my fellow Republicans and Trump supporters. Many of you are salivating over the notion of us having control over all three branches of the Federal Government. I don't like that scenario, that concentration of power. Things could unravel even before he takes office. Unlike the past three Republican Presidents, it's unclear who's really "King of the Hill". To some, particularly his most ardent cheerleaders, clearly it's President-elect Trump.


I think if you were on the inside, you'd soon realize the race to the top of the heap has just begun. Suitors from the swamp are already pushing to line up. If you've been paying attention, there's a list of "retirees" from Newt to Rudy to Boehner looking to get back in, although Boehner isn't putting all his chips in one place. Then there's Mitch, who is almost smug in his delusion that he'll be the guy really piloting the ship. Paul Ryan is hanging on to Mitch's shirttail much in the same manner that he's trying hold on to the Speakership helm.


Then there's "Lying" Ted. My "right of Rush", carpet bagging buddy who now calls Texas home (and the greatest State in the Union), said "Ted Cruz couldn't get elected Dog Catcher in Texas" after the convention. I'm pretty certain Ted doesn't, in his delusional way, concur with that assessment. He did after all, finish right behind Trump.


Also in line, the apparently, "ex" establishment contingency; the Reagan-Bush camp. That is the true, good old boy club. Deep pockets. They like "sure things" not gambles. They're obviously not falling in line.


"Little" Marco and his potential appeal to the fastest growing voting block. In the mix, the extremely unpopular RINO's, who are actually the good guys, but all the above can't see the writing on the walls. That could quickly change in four years. "Here today, gone tomorrow."

"Dog eat Dog" in the Grand Old Party.

They've gotten by with Excuses for years, now they have to grow-up real quick and live in the Adult World.

del
11-14-2016, 09:25 AM
"this guy" will step on his dick before the next super bowl

Crepitus
11-14-2016, 09:28 AM
"this guy" will step on his dick before the next super bowl

Already tripping over that little fucker and ain't even taken office yet. Backing up on Obamacare, Marriage Equality, and Abortion as we speak.

Cigar
11-14-2016, 09:30 AM
Already tripping over that little $#@!er and ain't even taken office yet. Backing up on Obamacare, Marriage Equality, and Abortion as we speak.

Once he starts getting those daily briefing, he'll begin to see the real world.

birddog
11-14-2016, 09:36 AM
Once he starts getting those daily briefing, he'll begin to see the real world.

Hey loser, that never helped B. Hussein Obama! Of course, he was busy golfing and vacationing.

del
11-14-2016, 09:37 AM
Hey loser, that never helped B. Hussein Obama! Of course, he was busy golfing and vacationing.

don't you spindledicks ever stop whining?

Cigar
11-14-2016, 09:38 AM
Hey loser, that never helped B. Hussein Obama! Of course, he was busy golfing and vacationing.

Pissing in your Cornflakes again Pops :laugh:

http://www.weird-websites.info/Weird-Pictures/images/cute-little-boy-peeing-in-cereal-penis-inblue-bowl.jpg (http://www.weird-websites.info/Weird-Pictures/cute-little-boy-peeing-in-cornflakes-penis-in-bowl.htm)

Cigar
11-14-2016, 09:39 AM
don't you spindledicks ever stop whining?

It's all they do, Whine, Cty and B!tch ... they're worse than an Old Divorced Woman :laugh:

birddog
11-14-2016, 09:55 AM
It's all they do, Whine, Cty and B!tch ... they're worse than an Old Divorced Woman :laugh:

PKB ALERT!

"I feel your pain!" I also revel in it. :roflmao:

Cigar
11-14-2016, 09:57 AM
PKB ALERT!

"I feel your pain!" I also revel in it. :roflmao:

Careful, don't choke and swallow your Teeth :laugh:

DGUtley
11-14-2016, 09:57 AM
Pissing in your Cornflakes again Pops :laugh: (picture of male toddler naked from waste down deleted)

I'm not a criminal lawyer, but that's probably a felony. Enjoy your stay.

Docthehun
11-14-2016, 11:38 AM
You wanted tax cuts, the President-elect is poised to deliver. I'll bet ten bucks that corporations get theirs way before you get yours. Any takers?

Docthehun
11-14-2016, 11:39 AM
I'm not a criminal lawyer, but that's probably a felony. Enjoy your stay.

Slam dunk. Good call Counselor. Register for life?

DGUtley
11-14-2016, 12:08 PM
Slam dunk. Good call Counselor. Register for life?

Yep. That's not something I'd want a part of.

Peter1469
11-14-2016, 03:27 PM
You wanted tax cuts, the President-elect is poised to deliver. I'll bet ten bucks that corporations get theirs way before you get yours. Any takers?

Good. We pay the corporate tax rate anyway.

Docthehun
11-14-2016, 03:40 PM
Good. We pay the corporate tax rate anyway.

Do you think they'll pass their good fortune on to us?

del
11-14-2016, 03:50 PM
Do you think they'll pass their good fortune on to us?

absolutely

i've always believed in the altruistic nature of the modern american corporatist

i'm surprised you have to ask