Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University

[stjames1_53]

Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University

November 28, 2016 By Bre Payton

"Progressives used a brutal knife attack at Ohio State University (OSU) on Monday as an excuse to demand more gun control, even after authorities declared that they had no evidence the attacker even used a gun during his rampage.
The attacker reportedly struck pedestrians with his vehicle and proceeded to stab several others, harming at least nine individuals, one of whom is in critical condition. Despite OSU’s initial tweets stating there was an active shooter on campus, authorities later said there was no evidence that the attacker used a gun during his attack. The victims are being treated for stab wounds and injuries sustained from being struck by the attacker’s vehicle"..."Shannon Watts, who runs a gun control group funded by former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, claimed during the attack that America “gives dangerous people guns,” and intimated that a gun-free zone would have stopped the OSU attack. She did not explain why the campus ban on machetes did not prevent the attacker from striking and stabbing at least nine individuals."

the whole story here: Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University (http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/28/progressives-demand-gun-control-knife-attack-ohio-state-university/)

Kind of reminds me of when Sharpton's grandson was stabbed in NYC. Of course, he blamed the gun, too.
Wadabunchofsnowflakes.................
..stupid.. scream gun control when a knife is used....

[Common]

How about knife control, how about refugee control. Guns had nothing to do with it and they wonder why we think they are nuts

[Amadeus]

Looks like most of those tweets occurred when it was thought to be an active shooter on a college campus. So... what exactly is the problem? Seems like a #fail of an article.

[donttread]

Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University

November 28, 2016 By Bre Payton

"Progressives used a brutal knife attack at Ohio State University (OSU) on Monday as an excuse to demand more gun control, even after authorities declared that they had no evidence the attacker even used a gun during his rampage.
The attacker reportedly struck pedestrians with his vehicle and proceeded to stab several others, harming at least nine individuals, one of whom is in critical condition. Despite OSU’s initial tweets stating there was an active shooter on campus, authorities later said there was no evidence that the attacker used a gun during his attack. The victims are being treated for stab wounds and injuries sustained from being struck by the attacker’s vehicle"..."Shannon Watts, who runs a gun control group funded by former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, claimed during the attack that America “gives dangerous people guns,” and intimated that a gun-free zone would have stopped the OSU attack. She did not explain why the campus ban on machetes did not prevent the attacker from striking and stabbing at least nine individuals."

the whole story here: Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University (http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/28/progressives-demand-gun-control-knife-attack-ohio-state-university/)

Kind of reminds me of when Sharpton's grandson was stabbed in NYC. Of course, he blamed the gun, too.
Wadabunchofsnowflakes.................
..stupid.. scream gun control when a knife is used....


They can't be bothered by facts . They are on a mission to control everyone's behavior. Period.

[stjames1_53]

How about knife control, how about refugee control. Guns had nothing to do with it and they wonder why we think they are nuts
what was glossed over, in the article, was that the guy was a Muslim from Somalia....another terrorist attack goes unnoticed, thanks to the people who also backed Hillary and supports Obama...

[stjames1_53]

Looks like most of those tweets occurred when it was thought to be an active shooter on a college campus. So... what exactly is the problem? Seems like a #fail of an article.
they remind me of you...use a baseball bat and get charged with a gun crime...........get this, THERE WAS NO GUN! I see outright lying doesn't bother you.....every time some one sneezes, you guys go into anti-gun mode

[Amadeus]

what was glossed over, in the article, was that the guy was a Muslim from Somalia....another terrorist attack goes unnoticed, thanks to the people who also backed Hillary and supports Obama...
Since we are dealing with facts, refugees and immigrants are statistically less likely to commit any crime than the average American citizen.

[Amadeus]

they remind me of you...use a baseball bat and get charged with a gun crime...........get this, THERE WAS NO GUN! I see outright lying doesn't bother you.....every time some one sneezes, you guys go into anti-gun mode

It was later revealed that it was knife and not a gun, as I recall (so the basis for this article is false, thanks to time-stamping). And this is a rather clear example of how a knife, rather than a gun, greatly reduced the number of casualties. The news has already moved on. Trump didn't have to slip on a Twitter banana peel into a pile of his own garbage. Why are you complaining?

[stjames1_53]

Since we are dealing with facts, refugees and immigrants are statistically less likely to commit any crime than the average American citizen.
really...........the last 4 mass shootings, and this last machete attack, were all done by a Muslim......... and they were cleared to own..I think we should ban Muslims instead of surrendering a single Right
You should know better than to misuse data collected in a poll. Once you eliminate the suicides and gang shooting, no more than 1100 people a year are outright murdered. Now factor in these known events, and you are more likely to get shot clubbing than in your own home.
and just a note, of those 1100, 60% were due to the influence of alcohol.
Drink much do you?

[donttread]

what was glossed over, in the article, was that the guy was a Muslim from Somalia....another terrorist attack goes unnoticed, thanks to the people who also backed Hillary and supports Obama...


So a guy most NRA members wouldn't want in the country anyway attacks people with a knife in a place where a GFZ denies those people the right of self defense . And they want gun control. Not even sheep are gonna go for that.

[Amadeus]

really........... the last 4 mass shootings, and this last machete attack, were all done by a Muslim

Most of which were natural born American citizens.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
http://immigrationimpact.com/2015/07/08/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-be-criminals-than-the-native-born/

In Canada:

https://www.cifar.ca/assets/arrival-of-the-fittest-canadas-crime-rate-is-dropping-as-immigration-increases-is-there-a-connection/

In Germany:

http://www.thelocal.de/20151113/police-refugees-commit-less-crimes-than-germans

[donttread]

Since we are dealing with facts, refugees and immigrants are statistically less likely to commit any crime than the average American citizen.


Because we pretty much stay out of their hoods and abused women don't call the law.

[donttread]

How about knife control, how about refugee control. Guns had nothing to do with it and they wonder why we think they are nuts


Knifves, cars, adventure sports all dangerous and must be banned!

[stjames1_53]

Most of which were natural born American citizens.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
http://immigrationimpact.com/2015/07/08/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-be-criminals-than-the-native-born/

In Canada:

https://www.cifar.ca/assets/arrival-of-the-fittest-canadas-crime-rate-is-dropping-as-immigration-increases-is-there-a-connection/

In Germany:

http://www.thelocal.de/20151113/police-refugees-commit-less-crimes-than-germans

are you deliberately being obtuse? You forget the key word: Muslims. it doesn't matter where they were born, they are still practicing Muslims on a global jihad.
Can we say France? it has some of the harshest gun control legislation in Europe, yet they managed to set themselves up for failure

[stjames1_53]

Knifves, cars, adventure sports all dangerous and must be banned!
..and that includes free speech............

[Common]

He said he was angry because there wasnt enough muslim prayer rooms. Obama has imported 43,000 somali refugees, this is one of the results

[stjames1_53]

He said he was angry because there wasnt enough muslim prayer rooms. Obama has imported 43,000 somali refugees, this is one of the results
yep. Pander to our destroyers...............

[FindersKeepers]

what was glossed over, in the article, was that the guy was a Muslim from Somalia....another terrorist attack goes unnoticed, thanks to the people who also backed Hillary and supports Obama...

A lot of articles are still glossing over that fact -- but it appears to be true -- the guy was a Muslim refugee from Somalia.

The "terror" link is starting to come out, however, and, that's what appears to be behind the young man's motivation.

This terror attack was not nearly so destructive as the last two - the Islamic terrorist attack on the gay nightclub in Fl and the Islamic attack in California -- but, it demonstrates that Islamic terrorism is firmly entrenched now in our society./

I do think we have to be careful not to paint all Muslims with the "terrorist" label when these extremists strike, but we do have to take steps to ensure that the Muslims in this nation understand that there will be no tolerance for such anti-American acts.

This kid obviously had a lot of pent-up anger. He went on a rant against the US on his Facebook. That should not have gone unnoticed and unreported. The problem is -- our progressives are doing their level best to pander to anti-US sentiment, and, in doing so, they're encouraging this victimhood mentality that's coming out in these Islamic terrorists.

Until we stop that anti-American sentiment -- it's going to be hard to stop those who act upon it.

[Standing Wolf]

The problem is -- our progressives are doing their level best to pander to anti-US sentiment, and, in doing so, they're encouraging this victimhood mentality that's coming out in these Islamic terrorists.

Until we stop that anti-American sentiment -- it's going to be hard to stop those who act upon it.

Can you provide an example or two of the kind of "anti-American sentiment" that you mean?

[MMC]

The leftness is fine with politicizing events even if they are wrong about what took place. Facts and the truth doesn't matter. Their agenda does. That's why they can't figure out what the Big Deal is.


What should take place now.....is the humiliation of any leftists that tried to politicize the event. They wanted to be in the limelight. Lets oblige them, but not in the way they like. Let them be shown as a dipshit. The joke of the neighborhood. To be mocked, ridiculed, humiliated. Wherein they are acknowledged as an embarrassment to the country and our people.





The OSU "Shooting" Wasn't Actually A Shooting, But That Didn't Stop Gun Control Supporters From Politicizing It......


First things first: our prayers are with the Ohio State University community on this very, very scary day. Best wishes to everyone injured in the attack for a speedy and complete recovery.


Second: Perhaps it's best to wait just a little bit for facts to come out before politicizing an event.


Exhibit A: Shannon Watts of Mom's Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, who wasted zero time before pushing a gun control agenda shortly after reports broke of an active shooter on campus. Watts tweeted a picture of a classroom at OSU with the door barricaded, and said that there needs to be more gun laws in America.

http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2016/11/28/6.png


In situations like this one, the first reports from the scene are often incorrect due to the chaotic environment. This is perfectly understandable and cannot be avoided. What can be avoided, however, is making a cheap political stunt before we even know what is happening. Increased gun control laws wouldn't have stopped a man from running down a group of students with his car and then attacking people with a knife.....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/11/28/the-osu-shooting-wasnt-actually-a-shooting-but-that-didnt-stop-gun-control-supporters-from-politicizing-it-n2251791

[Cigar]

:laugh: Breaking News From The Federalist

[MisterVeritis]

It was later revealed that it was knife and not a gun, as I recall (so the basis for this article is false, thanks to time-stamping). And this is a rather clear example of how a knife, rather than a gun, greatly reduced the number of casualties. The news has already moved on. Trump didn't have to slip on a Twitter banana peel into a pile of his own garbage. Why are you complaining?
Kook alert.

It was the presence of a trained man with a gun that greatly reduced the number of casualties.

You are a liberal, aren't you?

[resister]

Looks like most of those tweets occurred when it was thought to be an active shooter on a college campus. So... what exactly is the problem? Seems like a #fail of an article.
It would help the case if a gun was used.Theres your point

[stjames1_53]

yep. he was a frickin' Muzzie
https://www.yahoo.com/news/muslim-student-behind-osu-attack-001256182.html

[resister]

Since we are dealing with facts, refugees and immigrants are statistically less likely to commit any crime than the average American citizen.
Well screw statistis.The reality is he was a mooslim.I'm sure if you go to the hospital and quote your statistics,it will bring the victims comfort

[Amadeus]

Well screw statistis.The reality is he was a mooslim.I'm sure if you go to the hospital and quote your statistics,it will bring the victims comfort

Mooslim = Islamic Moose?

I'd be suspicious, too.

[resister]

Mooslim = Islamic Moose?

I'd be suspicious, too.Can't refute facts huhh?FTR that is how it is properly pronounced

[Captain Obvious]

I said this before, look how fast Eddie cleared out of the OSU thread when it was determoned there was no gun and no mass killing.

Progressives were praying for multiple gun deaths. The more the better.

[Amadeus]

Can't refute facts huhh?FTR that is how it is properly pronounced

You can't openly reject facts, put forth an emotional argument, then claim to be on some sort of factual high ground. Or maybe you can in Trumpland.

[stjames1_53]

You can't openly reject facts, put forth an emotional argument, then claim to be on some sort of factual high ground. Or maybe you can in Trumpland.
so, you're disputing these facts:
He was a Muslim
He committed an act of terrorism
He shot those people
It is legal to butcher people with a machete
nice.......

[FindersKeepers]

Can you provide an example or two of the kind of "anti-American sentiment" that you mean?

Sure -- off-hand a couple that come to mind are 1) The removal of the flag from classrooms, student clothing and various public buildings because it might make immigrants feel "threatened." 2) The push to remove statues and other remembrances of our Founding Fathers from universities, public buildings and memorials, because, let's face it, some of them did things that are not acceptable in today's society. 3) The idea that anyone who suggests strict immigration standards is "racist." With this one, the US is not even allowed to protect its borders. Those who want to are seen as deplorable, and those who cross the border illegally are seen as victims in need of protection in sanctuary cities. 4) The idea that terrorism against the US is the fault of the US. This was clearly seen in Hillary's and Obama's attempt to blame an American-made video for the attack on Benghazi. Granted, the deception only lasted a day before evidence came to light -- but they tried.

I can think of more, but already past the requested "example or two".

[stjames1_53]

Sure -- off-hand a couple that come to mind are 1) The removal of the flag from classrooms, student clothing and various public buildings because it might make immigrants feel "threatened." 2) The push to remove statues and other remembrances of our Founding Fathers from universities, public buildings and memorials, because, let's face it, some of them did things that are not acceptable in today's society. 3) The idea that anyone who suggests strict immigration standards is "racist." With this one, the US is not even allowed to protect its borders. Those who want to are seen as deplorable, and those who cross the border illegally are seen as victims in need of protection in sanctuary cities. 4) The idea that terrorism against the US is the fault of the US. This was clearly seen in Hillary's and Obama's attempt to blame an American-made video for the attack on Benghazi. Granted, the deception only lasted a day before evidence came to light -- but they tried.

I can think of more, but already past the requested "example or two".

:applause:

[resister]

You can't openly reject facts, put forth an emotional argument, then claim to be on some sort of factual high ground. Or maybe you can in Trumpland.
Youre the one quoteing"Statistics"I pointed out that recent reality disagrees.Yep,looks like the facts support reality

[Tahuyaman]

Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University


Looks like most of those tweets occurred when it was thought to be an active shooter on a college campus. So... what exactly is the problem? Seems like a #fail of an article.

Thats right. Liberals generally jump to conclusions before they know any of the facts. Then when those facts are discovered and they don't support their preconceived conclusions, they ignore them.

[resister]

Progressives Demand Gun Control After Knife Attack At Ohio State University





Thats right. Liberals generally jump to conclusions before they know any of the facts. Then when those facts are discovered and they don't support their preconceived conclusions, they ignore them.
a uniquely leftist trait

[Tahuyaman]

a uniquely leftist trait

It's a consistent trait.

[resister]

It's a consistent trait.
A few minutes on the forum sure confirm it beyond doubt(if there was any)

[Subdermal]

Looks like most of those tweets occurred when it was thought to be an active shooter on a college campus. So... what exactly is the problem? Seems like a #fail of an article.
Seems like you didn't read the "after it was known" part.

Stop making excuses for fellow leftist imbeciles.

[Tahuyaman]

Seems like you didn't read the "after it was known" part.

Stop making excuses for fellow leftist imbeciles.

Liberals don't need to know the facts. They will ignore the facts when they don't support their pre-formed conclusions.

Just like they are ignoring the facts surrounding the ideology which motivated the assailant.

[MMC]

You can't openly reject facts, put forth an emotional argument, then claim to be on some sort of factual high ground. Or maybe you can in Trumpland.

Neither can you, and not when you can't figure out what was politicized.

[waltky]

Time to shut the immigration door on Somalia... Ohio State attack echoes Islamic State group's brutal calls November 29, 2016 — In chillingly detailed articles in a slick online magazine, Islamic State extremists exhorted English-language readers this fall to carry out attacks with knives and vehicles.
Using those very methods, Somali-born student Abdul Razak Ali Artan injured 11 people Monday at Ohio State University, authorities say. It isn't clear whether Artan ever saw or heard about the magazine's instructions, but in a Facebook post made before the attack, he said that if the U.S. wanted Muslims to stop carrying out "lone wolf attacks," it should make peace with the Islamic State group. The posts were recounted by a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but wasn't authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The group has for a few years urged sympathizers to strike out alone with any weapons available. But it has reinvigorated that message in recent weeks in its new propaganda magazine and a video, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, a U.S. monitoring service that tracks militant postings. "In recent months, ISIS media has shown a shift in focus toward attack instructions, offering detailed guides for performing knife attacks, vehicular attacks and other acts," said SITE Intelligence's executive director, Rita Katz. Monday's attack in Ohio "consists of the recent instructions from ISIS on what tools should be used for lone-wolf attacks in the West." With professional-looking design and graphics and editions in multiple languages, the new magazine, Rumiyah, emerged in September with a call to kill "non-believers" in Australia, including at the Sydney Opera House, according to SITE Intelligence. It keeps copies of the magazine for monitoring. Days later, an 18-year-old man told security guards at the opera house that he was under the Islamic State group's instructions to carry out an attack, police said. The teenager, who was carrying canisters of automotive fluid, was charged with threatening to destroy property. A few days after that, a 22-year-old was charged with committing a terrorist act after authorities said he stabbed and critically wounded a man walking through a Sydney park in an attack inspired by IS. In both cases, the young men had shown signs of mental problems, according to their lawyers or police. Subsequent issues of Rumiyah include articles devoted to terrorist tactics. October's was a primer on the features of various knives and where on the body to aim them to kill. November's topic was using vehicles as tools of terror, with an approving nod to the truck attack that killed more than 80 people in a holiday crowd in Nice, France, in July. The article expounded on the features an attack truck should have and suggested crowded streets and outdoor gatherings as targets, calling the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade an "excellent" choice. New York police stepped up security in response to the article and the Nice attack, partly by stationing sand-filled dump trucks near the route as barriers. MORE (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ohio-state-attack-echoes-islamic-state-groups-brutal-calls) See also: 99,726 Somali Refugees Settled in U.S. Since 9/11 November 29, 2016 – Nearly 100,000 Somali refugees have been admitted into the United States since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, including 9,020 during fiscal year 2016 and 2,279 in the last two months alone.
According to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center database, between the al-Qaeda terror attacks in September 2001 and today, 99,726 Somali refugees have been resettled in the U.S. Of those refugees, 99.6 percent are Muslims, reflecting the religious makeup of Somalia’s population, which is almost entirely Muslim, predominantly Sunni. The largest numbers of Somali refugees arriving in the country since 9/11 have been settled in Minnesota (almost 16,000) and Ohio (more than 7,500), with sizeable communities also in Texas, New York and Arizona. Monday’s attack on the Ohio State University campus in Columbus, Ohio, was carried out by a student who, according to law enforcement officials, was a Somali refugee who came to the U.S. in 2014, after living for several years in Pakistan. Abdul Razak Ali Artan drove his car into pedestrians before getting out and stabbing people with a butcher knife, injuring eleven people in total. A police officer shot and killed him. The terror attack comes two months after a 20-year-old college student – the U.S.-raised son of refugees from Somalia – stabbed 10 people at a Minnesota shopping mall before an off-duty police officer shot and killed him. In a campaign stop in Minnesota shortly before the November 8 election, Republican nominee Donald Trump pointed to the mall attack and accused the administration of “faulty refugee vetting.” During October alone, 1,352 Somali refugees were admitted to the U.S., where they were resettled in 38 states and the District of Columbia. The biggest groups were located in New York State (138), Minnesota (135) and Ohio (93). [c enter]http://www.cnsnews.com/s3/files/styles/content_100p/s3/somali-refugeetable.jpg?itok=wHVhPQLA[/center] Those 1,352 Somali refugees constituted 13.5 percent of the total number of refugees from around the world (9,945) admitted to the U.S. in October. They were also second largest group from any country admitted that month, behind a 2,081-strong contingent from the Democratic Republican of the Congo. Since the beginning of November, another 927 Somali refugees have arrived, settling in 33 states, with the largest groups in Minnesota (137), New York (103) and Missouri (75). The 9,020 Somali refugees admitted during FY 2016, which ended on September 30, comprised the largest annual admission of Somalis under the refugee program in a decade. Not since 2006 (10,357) has a larger group arrived. For more than 20 years Somalia was not under the control of a single national government. The eventual establishment of a central federal government in 2012 has brought neither stability nor an end to the terrorist offensive waged by al-Shabaab, an al-Qaeda affiliate. Al-Shabaab’s deadly campaign at home has had a spillover in the Somali-American community. Over nearly a decade the FBI has recorded cases of several dozen young Somali-American men from Minneapolis-Saint Paul having traveled to Somalia to join the terrorist group. Last year nine young Somali-Americans were arrested on suspicion of plotting to join the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL). Six of them pleaded guilty and the other three were later convicted of plotting to join ISIS and commit murder abroad. Over recent months ISIS has called on supporters around the world to carry out “lone wolf” attacks in their home countries. Terrorist ‘breeding ground’ (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/nearly-100000-somali-refugees-resettled-us-911)

[resister]

Waltky, this proves one thing......We need car control NOW

[waltky]

Another disgruntled jihadi... Ohio State attacker stewed over treatment of fellow Muslims November 29, 2016 — A Somali-born student who carried out a car-and-knife attack at Ohio State University stewed over the treatment of Muslims while apparently staying under the radar of federal law enforcement, underscoring the difficulty authorities face in identifying and stopping lone wolves bent on violence.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan was not known to FBI counterterrorism authorities before Monday's rampage, which ended with him shot to death by police and 11 people injured, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. That's in contrast to several other recent attacks, including those in New York City; Orlando, Florida; and Garland, Texas, in which those blamed for the bloodshed had previously come to the attention of federal agents. Law enforcement officials have not identified a motive for the Ohio State violence but have suggested terrorism as a possibility. FBI agents continued to search Artan's apartment for clues, but California U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said he had seen no evidence Artan was directed by or was in communication with any overseas terror organization. The mode of attack — plowing a car into civilians, then slashing victims with a butcher knife — was in keeping with the recommended tactics of jihadist propaganda. And Facebook posts that were apparently written shortly before the attack and came to light afterward show Artan nursed grievances against the U.S. He railed against U.S. intervention in Muslim lands and warned, "If you want us Muslims to stop carrying lone wolf attacks, then make peace" with the Islamic State group. "America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially the Muslim Ummah. We are not weak. We are not weak, remember that," he wrote, using the Arabic term for the world's Muslim community. He also warned that other Muslims are in sleeper cells, "waiting for a signal. I am warning you Oh America!" The posts were recounted by a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but wasn't authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. On Tuesday, a self-described Islamic State news agency called Artan "a soldier of the Islamic State" who "carried out the operation in response to calls to target citizens of international coalition countries." The Islamic State group has described other attackers around the world as its "soldiers" without specifically claiming to have organized the acts of violence. Artan's social media rants seemed at odds with the portrait of the young man painted by neighbors and acquaintances. MORE (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ohio-state-attacker-stewed-over-treatment-muslims)

[resister]

Can we some more Somalis...you know...to show our compassion?