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This is just awesome.....Hillary is going Bi polar. :grin:
Why did Hillary Clinton join Jill Stein, the Green Party’s oddball presidential nominee, in asking for a recount of the votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania when everyone knows that such a recount won’t change the outcome of the 2016 election?
Part of the answer is that people close to Hillary—Huma Abedin, Chelsea Clinton, and Sidney Blumenthal—encouraged her to ask for a recount as a way of lifting her spirits.
“She is weepy, looks ten years older and is very whiny,” said one of Hillary’s closest friends. “She has been drinking wine pretty heavily, much more than usual. She mopes around all day, swimming in a sea of recriminations and complaining that her campaign managers were ‘incompetent,’ Bill and Chelsea ‘didn’t work hard enough,’ FBI Director Comey was ‘in league with Trump.’”
In addition, President Obama convinced Hillary that it was in the best interest of the Democratic Party if the Clinton legal team got involved with the recount and didn’t leave it to Jill Stein.
“The president felt that the progressives were acting stunned and helpless and had to rise out of their stupor and show that they weren’t going to take their defeat lying down,” said the source. “Contesting the results of the election was the best and fastest way to stir the morale and fighting spirit of the demoralized party.
“Obama felt that a recount would plant a seed with the base that the election was somehow dishonest,” the source continued. “He wanted to raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the Trump presidency.”
And what did Bill Clinton—the man Charlie Rose called “the best political animal that’s ever been in American politics”—think of all this?
Said a close Clinton adviser: “Bill thinks the recount is going to backfire as a strategy because there are probably no more than a handful of questionable ballots and they could actually wind up adding to Trump’s numbers and validate rather than invalidate his election.”.....snip~
http://townhall.com/columnists/edklein/2016/11/30/the-real-reason-hillary-asked-for-a-recount-n2252841
Ahahahahahaha.....Even BO peep got involved and Bilbo Clinton makes the Peep and Hillary's aides look like mopes.
Now Hillary will be Humiliated a 2nd time and if she is so depressed with the first loss. This loss will have her looking to take prescription meds. Mopes gonna be mopin some more. :laugh:
Cigar
12-01-2016, 02:07 PM
:grin:
I know its awesome.....Hillary getting drunk should help her to come up with another lie.
Cigar
12-01-2016, 02:23 PM
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Common
12-01-2016, 02:27 PM
Poor thing
MisterVeritis
12-01-2016, 02:28 PM
Have you noticed the story is hardly mentioned? Trump's Carrier move reset the narrative.
Cigar
12-01-2016, 02:30 PM
Until now, the Pennsylvania vote gap was hovering around the 70,000 mark depending on your source. If this tweet is accurate, it just dropped to 46,435.
According to the Cook Report spreadsheet (which hasn’t been updated with this yet...it was posted less than 20 minutes ago), here’s where things stand:
WI: Hillary down 22,177
MI: Hillary down 10,704
PA: Hillary down 46,435
Total: 79,316
80,000 people.
EIGHTY. THOUSAND. PEOPLE.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/1/1606028/-Hillary-s-gap-in-PA-just-dropped-by-23K-She-s-now-down-by-just-80K-across-WI-MI-PA#comment_64637651
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 02:34 PM
Clinton didn't ask for a recount.
Clinton didn't ask for a recount.
She jumped onboard....Oh and the Green Party didn't ask for a recount either. Which that thread is up about how they bailed on Stein. Leaving her as nothing but a front for Hillary.
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/74166-Even-the-Green-Party-Has-Turned-Against-Jill-Stein
Until now, the Pennsylvania vote gap was hovering around the 70,000 mark depending on your source. If this tweet is accurate, it just dropped to 46,435.
According to the Cook Report spreadsheet (which hasn’t been updated with this yet...it was posted less than 20 minutes ago), here’s where things stand:
WI: Hillary down 22,177
MI: Hillary down 10,704
PA: Hillary down 46,435
Total: 79,316
80,000 people.
EIGHTY. THOUSAND. PEOPLE.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/1/1606028/-Hillary-s-gap-in-PA-just-dropped-by-23K-She-s-now-down-by-just-80K-across-WI-MI-PA#comment_64637651
:rollseyes:
Wisconsin Judge Refuses To Mandate Hand Recount, Says Clinton/Stein Request Lacked Evidence To Justify It.....
A Wisconsin judge has rejected the Stein campaign’s reasons for why there should be a hand recount, adding that the request, backed by the Clinton campaign, failed to show a valid reason for doing so. Green Party candidate Jill Stein is hoping to create more drama during this 2016 election cycle by trying to recount the votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Wisconsin has said they’re moving forward with a recount, but said they would not conduct a hand recount, which prompted Stein to file a lawsuit (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/jill-stein-to-file-lawsuit-after-wisconsin-rejected-hand-recount-n2251941). Pennsylvania is even worse for Stein’s pie-in-the-sky efforts, as their voter-initiated deadline has passed (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/steins-recount-crusade-in-pennsylvania-not-as-clear-cut-riddled-with-hurdles-n2251834). Stein will have to challenge the results in court, where she will be forced to present evidence of hacking or voter fraud, the former of which is the catalyst for this recount effort. And herein lies the problem; there is no evidence of hacking. The Obama administration even said there was no suspicious increase in cyber activity that would suggest hacking was being conducted on election night. There is no evidence. Hence, why the judge refused to honor the Stein/Clinton request for a hand recount (via Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/29/steins-recount-headed-court-tuesday/94598740/)):
Stein went on to say that Wisconsin’s voting machines are illegal. Even left leaning Politifact rated that as a “pants on fire” lie (http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/nov/29/jill-stein/seeking-recount-donald-trump-win-jill-stein-says-w/). The results are not going to change all that much (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/28/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-recount.html?_r=0), perhaps a couple hundred votes lost or gained, but Trump will be the winner of Wisconsin’s recount vote. He won the election. Period. Is this a Clinton campaign-funded operation? No direct evidence to suggest as such, but it’s odd that a) the Clinton campaign hopped on this effort even after they found no evidence of voter fraud, hacking, or any other outside force that would prompt them to file a recount petition on their own; and b) Stein had to know that any votes Trump could lose will benefit Clinton, not her. Stein has raised a lot of cash since this recount effort began. Almost $7 million has been raised, which amounted to more than what she fundraised for her entire presidential campaign. It’s all a little too convenient, which is why the Republican Party of Wisconsin filed an FEC complaint yesterday (via LawNewz (http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/fec-complaint-alleges-jill-stein-is-serving-as-front-for-clinton-campign-in-recount-effort/)):
The Republican Party of Wisconsin filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission on Wednesday that alleges Jill Stein is allowing her campaign to be used as a front for Hillary Clinton’s campaign in the recount effort. Stein has denied those allegations.
“It is concerning that the Stein campaign would position itself to front and fund a recount attempt that only serves the interest of a desperate and defeated Clinton campaign,” the complaint states. “Further, it is incredibly disturbing that given these asymmetrical interests, the Clinton campaign would readily begin organizing around the effort in order to capitalize on the chaos created by this attempt to undermine the integrity of Wisconsin’s elections process.”
The GOP argues Stein’s actions are essentially a coordinated $3.5 million expenditure on behalf of the Clinton campaign, in excess of the $2,000 amount allowed by federal campaign donations laws.......snip~
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/01/wisconsin-judge-refuses-to-mandate-hand-recount-says-clintonstein-request-lacked-evidence-to-justify-it-n2253140
Cigar
12-01-2016, 04:10 PM
Has to be those 1 Million Illegal Immigrants Voting :laugh:
Has to be those 1 Million Illegal Immigrants Voting :laugh:
Pennsylvania is even worse for Stein’s pie-in-the-sky efforts, as their voter-initiated deadline has passed (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/steins-recount-crusade-in-pennsylvania-not-as-clear-cut-riddled-with-hurdles-n2251834). Stein will have to challenge the results in court, where she will be forced to present evidence of hacking or voter fraud, the former of which is the catalyst for this recount effort......snip~
Hows that Daily Kos counting going on in Pennsylvania? Where they cite the Cook Report. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/pointlaugh.gif
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 04:25 PM
She jumped onboard....Oh and the Green Party didn't ask for a recount either. Which that thread is up about how they bailed on Stein. Leaving her as nothing but a front for Hillary.
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/74166-Even-the-Green-Party-Has-Turned-Against-Jill-Stein
Not exactly. They simply sent lawyers to monitor. Implying otherwise is being disingenuous.
Not exactly. They simply sent lawyers to monitor. Implying otherwise is being disingenuous.
Yes exactly......her lawyers can't do anything unless Hillary gives them the okay. Hillary calls the shots for her campaign.
Now its all a mute point since the Green Party has it up on their website that Stein didn't get approval from the Green Party to go for the recount.
They also pointed out how Stein only picked states where Hillary lost and not where she won by a very slim margin. The Green Party also stated they can't be associated with the Demo Party.
“There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein,” a statement on the Party’s website reads.
“The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS),” it continued.
The Party argues that Stein’s effort blurs the line between the Green and Democratic Parties given the states that Stein chose to target for a recount—Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania—are those that Hillary Clinton lost. Other close races where Clinton won, like in New Hampshire, were ignored.
“As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.”......snip~
Oopsie.....looks like you need a better excuse. :laugh:
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 04:40 PM
Yes exactly......her lawyers can't do anything unless Hillary gives them the okay. Hillary calls the shots for her campaign.
Now its all a mute point since the Green Party has it up on their website that Stein didn't get approval from the Green Party to go for the recount.
They also pointed out how Stein only picked states where Hillary lost and not where she won by a very slim margin. The Green Party also stated they can't be associated with the Demo Party.
“There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein,” a statement on the Party’s website reads.
“The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS),” it continued.
The Party argues that Stein’s effort blurs the line between the Green and Democratic Parties given the states that Stein chose to target for a recount—Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania—are those that Hillary Clinton lost. Other close races where Clinton won, like in New Hampshire, were ignored.
“As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.”......snip~
Oopsie.....looks like you need a better excuse. :laugh:
Your post proves nothing. Nor does it disprove what I stated.
Your post proves nothing. Nor does it disprove what I stated.
Sure it does.....first off your statement don't mean nothing and doesn't acknowledge reality. Hillary calls the shots for her campaign. Not her Lawyers. If Hillary says no challenge.....it don't happen. Duh!
Learn how campaigns are run in the US rather than just showing your usual 2 Cents. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 04:48 PM
Sure it does.....first off your statement don't mean nothing and doesn't acknowledge reality. Hillary calls the shots for her campaign. Not her Lawyers. If Hillary says no challenge.....it don't happen. Duh!
Learn how campaigns are run in the US rather than just showing your usual 2 Cents. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif
Stick to your lies if you wish.
Stick to your lies if you wish.
There is no lie.....Hillary calls the shots for her campaign. Not her lawyers. So quit denying reality, as that is lying.
Just to prove the point about you don't know what youre talking about. Show us how Hillary's Lawyers can do whatever they want with Hillary's campaign without her approval.
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 05:03 PM
There is no lie.....Hillary calls the shots for her campaign. Not her lawyers. So quit denying reality, as that is lying.
Just to prove the point about you don't know what youre talking about. Show us how Hillary's Lawyers can do whatever they want with Hillary's campaign without her approval.
Yes, it is a lie...the statement "The Real Reason Hillary Asked for a Recount" implies Hillary asked for a recount...which is a lie.
Yes, it is a lie...the statement "The Real Reason Hillary Asked for a Recount" implies Hillary asked for a recount...which is a lie.
Hillary gave the approval for her attorney to jump on board. Stein was a front for Hillary and the Green Party validates that.
MisterVeritis
12-01-2016, 05:07 PM
Yes, it is a lie...the statement "The Real Reason Hillary Asked for a Recount" implies Hillary asked for a recount...which is a lie.
I suppose we shall have to wait for WikiLeaks. :laugh:
I suppose we shall have to wait for WikiLeaks. :laugh:
They will do all they can to deflect from the truth.....even after their drama queen gets set out. The Best part was Bilbo Clinton saying he thinks the strategy will backfire. http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/funny.gif
Do you think they have figured out that Stein got the money from Clinton supporters?
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 05:18 PM
The dim tend to gravitate to conspiracy theories...
The dim tend to gravitate to conspiracy theories...
Yeah and you rushed Right in.....at least Hillary knows she has a Cult member in Canada. :laugh:
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 05:25 PM
Yeah and you rushed Right in.....at least Hillary knows she has a Cult member in Canada. :laugh:
Sorry, I'm not a fan of unabashed liars.
Sorry, I'm not a fan of unabashed liars.
Well quit staring at yourself in the mirror then. By the way it didn't say that Hillary was the only one to ask for a recount. But it did talk about why she did.
So at least try the truth for change and not just bring 2 Cents to the Table. As your tactic of calling someone a liar when you have no credibility around here. Just doesn't work.
Common Sense
12-01-2016, 05:33 PM
Well quit staring at yourself in the mirror then. By the way it didn't say that Hillary was the only one to ask for a recount. But it did talk about why she did.
So at least try the truth for change and not just bring 2 Cents to the Table. As your tactic of calling someone a liar when you have no credibility around here. Just doesn't work.
"The Real Reason Hillary Asked for a Recount..... (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/74188-The-Real-Reason-Hillary-Asked-for-a-Recount/page3)"
"The Real Reason Hillary Asked for a Recount..... (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/74188-The-Real-Reason-Hillary-Asked-for-a-Recount/page3)"
No kidding......now tell us how that changes anything about Stein asking for the recount? Do you even know that Hillary joined the recount.
Did you want to tell us that Hillary didn't ask for the recount by joining in?
Again learn about US campaigns and an election before trying to talk about them.
Tahuyaman
12-01-2016, 10:30 PM
This is just awesome.....Hillary is going Bi polar. :grin:
Why did Hillary Clinton join Jill Stein, the Green Party’s oddball presidential nominee, in asking for a recount of the votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania when everyone knows that such a recount won’t change the outcome of the 2016 election?
Part of the answer is that people close to Hillary—Huma Abedin, Chelsea Clinton, and Sidney Blumenthal—encouraged her to ask for a recount as a way of lifting her spirits.
“She is weepy, looks ten years older and is very whiny,” said one of Hillary’s closest friends. “She has been drinking wine pretty heavily, much more than usual. She mopes around all day, swimming in a sea of recriminations and complaining that her campaign managers were ‘incompetent,’ Bill and Chelsea ‘didn’t work hard enough,’ FBI Director Comey was ‘in league with Trump.’”
In addition, President Obama convinced Hillary that it was in the best interest of the Democratic Party if the Clinton legal team got involved with the recount and didn’t leave it to Jill Stein.
“The president felt that the progressives were acting stunned and helpless and had to rise out of their stupor and show that they weren’t going to take their defeat lying down,” said the source. “Contesting the results of the election was the best and fastest way to stir the morale and fighting spirit of the demoralized party.
“Obama felt that a recount would plant a seed with the base that the election was somehow dishonest,” the source continued. “He wanted to raise serious questions about the legitimacy of the Trump presidency.”
And what did Bill Clinton—the man Charlie Rose called “the best political animal that’s ever been in American politics”—think of all this?
Said a close Clinton adviser: “Bill thinks the recount is going to backfire as a strategy because there are probably no more than a handful of questionable ballots and they could actually wind up adding to Trump’s numbers and validate rather than invalidate his election.”.....snip~
http://townhall.com/columnists/edklein/2016/11/30/the-real-reason-hillary-asked-for-a-recount-n2252841
Ahahahahahaha.....Even BO peep got involved and Bilbo Clinton makes the Peep and Hillary's aides look like mopes.
Now Hillary will be Humiliated a 2nd time and if she is so depressed with the first loss. This loss will have her looking to take prescription meds. Mopes gonna be mopin some more. :laugh:
Losing an election has got to be a bitter thing to accept. Especially when you think the presidency is owed to you and you've been waiting for your chance since the early 1990's.
Tahuyaman
12-01-2016, 10:34 PM
Has to be those 1 Million Illegal Immigrants Voting :laugh:
More like three million.
Crepitus
12-01-2016, 10:40 PM
You guys are still buying into the Russian propaganda machine. SMH.
Peter1469
12-01-2016, 10:46 PM
The EC protects state's rights. It also makes it harder for fraud to determine an election.
Captain Obvious
12-01-2016, 10:51 PM
Said this more times than I cared to.
The EC did exactly what it was designed to do.
Losing an election has got to be a bitter thing to accept. Especially when you think the presidency is owed to you and you've been waiting for your chance since the early 1990's.
One thing is for certain.....its a Yuuuuge Bitter Pill for Hillary's to swallow. To lose the recounts she will be taking it in from the other end.
Tahuyaman
12-02-2016, 09:23 AM
When one believes they are entitled to be POTUS and have been working toward most of your adult life and had it stolen from you eight years ago, it must be tough to lose the chance once again to have what you believe is rightfully yours.
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