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Captain Obvious
12-04-2016, 08:34 AM
Rodham's lap dog in'nt giving up

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/03/504285672/jill-stein-campaign-drops-her-recount-effort-in-pennsylvania


The Jill Stein campaign plans to bring her fight for a statewide ballot recount in Pennsylvania to federal court.
Jonathan Abady, lead counsel to Stein's recount efforts, said in a statement (https://www.facebook.com/drjillstein/posts/1389596307747222)late Saturday that starting Monday, the campaign will "file for emergency relief in federal court, demanding a statewide recount on constitutional grounds."

hanger4
12-04-2016, 08:39 AM
I think this is just a ploy to force the Pennsylvania taxpayer to foot the bill.

Common
12-04-2016, 09:02 AM
I think this is just a ploy to force the Pennsylvania taxpayer to foot the bill.
Exactly she stated publically her supporters cant fund the recounts and she was going to announce in front of trump tower tomorrow that the recount would cease.

This is an obvious attempt to get the taxpayers to pay for it. What is she going to count every state trump won. Sooner or later a judge will send her packing

Captain Obvious
12-04-2016, 09:04 AM
I think this is just a ploy to force the Pennsylvania taxpayer to foot the bill.

If so, Pennsylvanians should rise up with torches and pitchforks.

Do they still make pitchforks?

hanger4
12-04-2016, 09:06 AM
If so, Pennsylvanians should rise up with torches and pitchforks.

Do they still make pitchforks?

Yes they do.

MMC
12-04-2016, 09:21 AM
Already filing for emergency relief.....yet has not produced evidence of fraud nor anything else. She has run out of money and the Green party isn't supporting her.

She is clearly fronting for Hill-Dog and Team.

The people of Pennsylvania should counter sue her for filing a fraudulent claim and bankrupt this flake.

She can forget about running in the future. The Green party wont have anything to do with her going forward.

Bethere
12-04-2016, 09:30 AM
Already filing for emergency relief.....yet has not produced evidence of fraud nor anything else. She has run out of money and the Green party isn't supporting her.

She is clearly fronting for Hill-Dog and Team.

The people of Pennsylvania should counter sue her for filing a fraudulent claim and bankrupt this flake.

She can forget about running in the future. The Green party wont have anything to do with her going forward.

Lol.

MMC
12-04-2016, 09:43 AM
Fox News Alert
✔ @foxnewsalert BREAKING NEWS: BOWING OUT: Green Party suspends its recount effort in Pennsylvania http://fxn.ws/2E9Swb (https://t.co/ZCwe3oy1mG)
5:33 PM - 3 Dec 2016 (https://twitter.com/foxnewsalert/status/805193156618764288)


Well, Green Party candidate Jill Stein has decided to pull the plug on her effort to get a statewide recount in Pennsylvania. It seems she didn’t have the money (via CBS Pittsburgh (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/12/03/green-party-drops-statewide-pennsylvania-recount/)):


[The Green Party is dropping its court case seeking a recount of Pennsylvania’s Nov. 8 presidential election. It had wanted to explore whether voting machines and systems had been hacked and the election result manipulated.The Green Party’s filing came Saturday, saying it couldn’t afford the $1 million bond the court had set. A Commonwealth Court hearing had been scheduled in the case for Monday, and the $1 million bond was due later that day.]


Prior to this development, Philadelphia approved a recount, but rejected the request to have an audit of the voting machines (via Philadelphia Inquirer (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161202_Philly_allows_recount__rejects_forensic_a udit_of_voting_machines.html)):


[Ilann Maazel, an attorney for Stein's campaign, told the commissioners the state Election Code allows for an examination of the machines. Citing examples of hacking of elections computer systems in Illinois and Arizona, along with the Democratic National Committee's emails, he said a forensic audit of Philadelphia's voting machine software was the only way to determine whether they had been hacked.
"To examine means to look inside," Maazel said.
Lawrence Tabas, general counsel for the Pennsylvania Republican Party, countered that Stein's campaign had an opportunity for a public inspection of the city's voting machines before the election and chose not to attend.
Tabas cited an Oct. 20 statement from Pennsylvania Secretary of State Pedro Cortes, a Democrat, who said the state's "voting systems are secure" and the machines were not connected to the internet or each other.
"There is no opportunity to hack these machines," Tabas said. "There is no opportunity to corrupt them."
Stein's campaign has not offered proof of election tampering, instead relying on affidavits from computer scientists who put forward the theory that voting machines are vulnerable to hacking.]


In the meantime, President-elect Trump’s legal team, with other supporters, filed challenges to stop the recounts in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (via NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/trump-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylvania.html?_r=0)):


Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette also filed a lawsuit (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/02/michigan-attorney-general-files-lawsuit-to-halt-recount-n2253961), claiming the process would unnecessarily cost the taxpayers millions of dollars among other things. We all know the results will not be changed with these recounts. Trump won. Period.


Oh, and over at Hot Air, Ed had the results (http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/03/breaking-green-party-withdraws-pa-recount-demand/) from the Wisconsin recount so far [emphasis mine]:


[Its Day 3 results show that almost a third of Wisconsin precincts have completed their recounts, accounting for over 705,000 of the 2.975 million ballots cast in the presidential race. The net change has been to find 349 additional votes. Trump has gained 138 votes and Hillary Clinton 126, which means that Trump has extended his lead by 12 points. That’s, er, not exactly what Stein promised donors who coughed up millions for this stupid and futile gesture.].....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/12/03/jill-stein-nixes-statewide-recount-effort-in-pennsylvania-n2254608


Now isn't that funny. :laugh:

Captain Obvious
12-04-2016, 09:44 AM
The hour is still young.

Seems like this has flip-flopped a few times already.

resister
12-04-2016, 09:47 AM
She is an absolute moron,crying for attention

MMC
12-04-2016, 09:52 AM
The hour is still young.

Seems like this has flip-flopped a few times already.

Oh she is saying they will still take it to the Fed. But her desperation is showing.


The Fed wont allow her to disfranchise all of Pennsylvania's voters. Plus she failed to attend the public inspection of voting machines.


Stein's campaign had an opportunity for a public inspection of the city's voting machines before the election and chose not to attend......snip~

Update: The court in Pennsylvania (http://www.pacourts.us/assets/files/setting-5258/file-5777.pdf?cb=3fd7fc) has put an exclamation point on the subject of recounts:

AND NOW, this 3rd day of December, 2016, Petitioners having filed a Praecipe to Discontinue and Withdraw the above-captioned matter, the hearing scheduled for Monday, December 5, 2016, at 10:00 a.m. is CANCELLED, and the Chief Clerk is directed to mark this matter CLOSED.



Yeah, well, good luck with that. The Stein campaign has to prove that asking a fourth-place fringe candidate to post a significant bond for covering the cost of a statewide recount after getting less than one percent of the vote is not just unreasonable but unconstitutional. The state has the authority to set the terms of recounts, so a federal judge will be reluctant to order a state to conduct one in general, but perhaps especially so for a plaintiff thus situated. Plus, with the safe-harbor date of the Electoral College fast approaching, the court is going to give serious consideration to the risks of ordering a state into a situation which runs a large risk of disenfranchising all of its voters in a presidential election.....snip~

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/03/breaking-green-party-withdraws-pa-recount-demand/

hanger4
12-04-2016, 09:54 AM
Lol.

I just love the factless Bethere "lol", it says so much about one that has so little.

MMC
12-04-2016, 09:55 AM
Without taking Pennsylvania off the Electoral College table, Trump can’t lose. Even if Stein manages to force the electors from Wisconsin and Michigan to miss the safe-harbor deadline and the Electoral College on December 19th by tying up both states in useless recounting, Trump still has 280 electors and a clear victory......snip~

More humiliation for Hillary and Stein.

Captain Obvious
12-04-2016, 10:03 AM
I just love the factless Bethere "lol", it says so much about one that has so little.

Don't encourage him

hanger4
12-04-2016, 10:18 AM
Don't encourage him

He has me on ignore. No worries

The Xl
12-04-2016, 10:21 AM
I thought she was actually an outsider. A shame.

MMC
12-04-2016, 10:48 AM
I thought she was actually an outsider. A shame.

At least next time around she will have to run as a Democrat. As the Green Party has pulled their support from her.

Bo-4
12-04-2016, 11:35 AM
I'm a tad ashamed that i voted for her.

She's raised 5 million dollars and can't afford a million to get the ball rolling in PA?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/20161204_Jill_Stein_campaign_drops_recount_effort_ in_Pa_.html

I guess those who said it was a scam were correct.

From her website - sad :(

"We cannot guarantee a recount will happen in any of these states we are targeting. We can only pledge we will demand recounts in those states."