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Captain Obvious
12-04-2016, 10:46 PM
Wait... wasn't the hack left here shitting the bed over how Trump slighted our dear friends in China?

Must be NPR's political bias speaking here.

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/04/504342264/in-trumps-taiwan-kerfuffle-beijing-has-been-uncharacteristically-measured


President-elect Donald Trump's unprecedented call to Taiwanese president Tsai Ing-wen has brought all varieties of foreign policy wonks out of the woodwork. Most are critical — some are mocking — of the president-elect's break with four decades of diplomatic protocol.
Yet compared to some of the heated responses to Trump's phone conversation, China's response actually seems quite measured. After waiting nearly a full day, Beijing lodged a formal complaint — something it really had to do. It reiterated the importance of the "One China" policy, stating it hoped Trump would come to an understanding of this.
The response from Beijing was characterized by patience and understanding, and written in a statesmanlike manner — a departure from a government that is known to launch acerbic verbal attacks at those who it feels have "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people." China's government seemed to understand the president-elect is facing a steep learning curve, and it hasn't given up hope.


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Crepitus
12-05-2016, 12:37 AM
Steap learning curve.


Your gift for understatement is unparalleled.

Common
12-05-2016, 05:11 AM
The trump camp has stated over and over that the Taiwanese president called Trump and he as a courtesy took the call.

Capt this is what the left does they latch on to every word uttered and try to make it bad. They need to learn one thing and quick to salvage whats left of their mental health. TRUMP AINT DOING IT LIKE YOU WANT HIM TOO get USED TO IT.

donttread
12-05-2016, 06:56 AM
Wait... wasn't the hack left here shitting the bed over how Trump slighted our dear friends in China?

Must be NPR's political bias speaking here.

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/04/504342264/in-trumps-taiwan-kerfuffle-beijing-has-been-uncharacteristically-measured



http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/12/04/gettyimages-623131228-73b9b5cee09571bfab9940e30cff88c6721571bb-s1400-c85.jpg

Lets balance this out.
China holds pieces of paper worth a supposed trillion or two of our debt.
We produce a large share of their food.
Whom should really be worried about offending whom here?

hanger4
12-05-2016, 07:05 AM
Wait... wasn't the hack left here shitting the bed over how Trump slighted our dear friends in China?

Must be NPR's political bias speaking here.

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/04/504342264/in-trumps-taiwan-kerfuffle-beijing-has-been-uncharacteristically-measured



http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/12/04/gettyimages-623131228-73b9b5cee09571bfab9940e30cff88c6721571bb-s1400-c85.jpg

"Must be NPR's political bias speaking here."

Actually, yes they are with this opening line;

"President-elect Donald Trump's unprecedented call to"

President Tsai Ing-wen called Trump not the other way around. Probably why China had a "measured response".

Cigar
12-05-2016, 08:54 AM
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Captain Obvious
12-05-2016, 09:57 AM
Steap learning curve.


Your gift for understatement is unparalleled.

Steap?

There was no understatement.

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 10:05 AM
President Tsai Ing-wen called Trump not the other way around. Probably why China had a "measured response".

It appears you are mistaken. Trump lied when he said it as a congratulatory call. The call was set up by his people.

Crepitus
12-05-2016, 10:20 AM
Steap?

There was no understatement.

Typo.

And yes, there was.

Crepitus
12-05-2016, 10:21 AM
President Tsai Ing-wen called Trump not the other way around. Probably why China had a "measured response".

It appears you are mistaken. Trump lied when he said it as a congratulatory call. The call was set up by his people.[/QUOTE]

Trump.appears to do that kinda thing frequently.

Subdermal
12-05-2016, 10:29 AM
Steap?

There was no understatement.
Spelling involves a steep learning curve.

Subdermal
12-05-2016, 10:30 AM
Typo.

And yes, there was.

That's not a typo. Autocorrect changes 'steap' to 'strap', and the 'a' is not next to the 'e'. We know who you are, and we know your limitations.

hanger4
12-05-2016, 11:40 AM
President Tsai Ing-wen called Trump not the other way around. Probably why China had a "measured response".

It appears you are mistaken. Trump lied when he said it as a congratulatory call. The call was set up by his people.[/QUOTE]

Link ??

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 11:46 AM
Link ??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-taiwan-phone-call-was-weeks-in-the-planning-say-people-who-were-involved/2016/12/04/f8be4b0c-ba4e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.21af4b0dbb25


Immediately after Trump won the Nov. 8 election, his staffers compiled a list of foreign leaders with whom to arrange calls. “Very early on, Taiwan was on that list,” said Stephen Yates, a national security official during the presidency of George W. Bush and an expert on China and Taiwan. “Once the call was scheduled, I was told that there was a briefing for President-elect Trump. They knew that there would be reaction and potential blowback.”

hanger4
12-05-2016, 11:50 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-taiwan-phone-call-was-weeks-in-the-planning-say-people-who-were-involved/2016/12/04/f8be4b0c-ba4e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.21af4b0dbb25

"On Saturday, China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, in his government’s first official reaction, played down the call."

"Mr. Wang, speaking to reporters in Beijing, characterized the call as initiated by the Taiwanese government. “We believe it’s a petty action by the Taiwan side.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/politics/trump-speaks-with-taiwans-leader-a-possible-affront-to-china.html

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 12:03 PM
"On Saturday, China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, in his government’s first official reaction, played down the call."

"Mr. Wang, speaking to reporters in Beijing, characterized the call as initiated by the Taiwanese government. “We believe it’s a petty action by the Taiwan side.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/politics/trump-speaks-with-taiwans-leader-a-possible-affront-to-china.html

Thanks for posting yesterday's news, as if it is relevant today.

Ethereal
12-05-2016, 12:11 PM
Thanks for posting yesterday's news, as if it is relevant today.
Why isn't it relevant?

hanger4
12-05-2016, 12:14 PM
Thanks for posting yesterday's news, as if it is relevant today.

Was Mr. Wang lying ??

Ethereal
12-05-2016, 12:18 PM
To me, the phone call is not really the problem. It's the increased aggression towards China that such a phone call may portend in the future. Talk of arming Taiwan and actively supporting their claims of independence are coming from some of Trump's advisers, who never mess an opportunity to spend more money on the military-industrial complex.

Tahuyaman
12-05-2016, 12:51 PM
Let me get this straight. The elected president on another country calls the president elect of the Sunited States to congratulate him, he accepts the call and the left thinks this is a bad thing.

Uh.....OK.

Crepitus
12-05-2016, 02:29 PM
That's not a typo. Autocorrect changes 'steap' to 'strap', and the 'a' is not next to the 'e'. We know who you are, and we know your limitations.

You actually checked? Lol. I typed it wrong. That's a typo.

Why are you guys all so fixated on me? Not that it's not flattering but seriously.....

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 02:47 PM
Let me get this straight. The elected president on another country calls the president elect of the Sunited States to congratulate him, he accepts the call and the left thinks this is a bad thing.
It was planned for months by both sides. Ergo, Trump is lying.

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 02:50 PM
Why isn't it relevant?
Because new information shows that it was planned for months by the Trump campaign.

Tahuyaman
12-05-2016, 04:29 PM
It was planned for months by both sides. Ergo, Trump is lying.

yeah......

People need to buy stock in the parent company of Reynolds Wrap. Tin foil sales are going to go theprough the roof over the next four years.

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 06:21 PM
yeah......

People need to buy stock in the parent company of Reynolds Wrap. Tin foil sales are going to go theprough the roof over the next four years.

Whatever that means in reference to my comment.

Tahuyaman
12-05-2016, 06:36 PM
yeah......

People need to buy stock in the parent company of Reynolds Wrap. Tin foil sales are going to go theprough the roof over the next four years.


Whatever that means in reference to my comment.

think about it......

Amadeus
12-05-2016, 06:58 PM
think about it......

I did. Still not getting it. What I said has nothing to do with tinfoil. Trump set up the call with the Taiwanese president months in advance. It wasn't a random congratulatory call. Trump lied. That's not a conspiracy.

Tahuyaman
12-05-2016, 11:48 PM
think about it......


I did. Still not getting it. What I said has nothing to do with tinfoil. Trump set up the call with the Taiwanese president months in advance. It wasn't a random congratulatory call. Trump lied. That's not a conspiracy.


Maybe I asked too much from you?

patrickt
12-06-2016, 09:56 AM
What kerfuffle? Does leftists whining really constitute a kerfuffle?