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decedent
01-13-2017, 11:43 PM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list.





Our Running List of All the Promises Made and Broken by Donald Trump (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/here-are-all-the-promises-made-by-donald-trump-during-the-2016-campaign)

-Build a wall along the Southern border—a wall that may partly be a fence (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-wall-mexican-border-fence-segments/).
-Make Mexico pay for that wall. UPDATE 1/6/2017: Mexico is going to pay the US back for the wall "later," according to Trump's Twitter feed (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/817329823374831617).
-Refuse to engage in nation-building (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-declare-end-nation-building-elected-president/).



-Keep US troops in Afghanistan (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/politics/donald-trump-afghanistan-war-mistake-troops-stay/).
-Renegotiate the Iran nuclear deal (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-i-will-renegotiate-with-iran/).
-Suspend immigration (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/283299-trump-suspend-immigration-from-areas-with-proven-history) from parts of the world with a "proven history of terrorism."
-Refuse entry (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/donald-trump-syrian-refugees/) to all Syrian refugees.
-Create a database of Syrian refugees (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-database-syrian-refugees-muslims-194153985.html?ref=gs).
-Build a "safe zone" in Syria (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/13/trump_we_can_not_allow_people_to_come_in_from_syri a.html) for refugees.



-Spy on mosques (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/politics/donald-trump-muslims-mosque-surveillance/).
-End birthright citizenship (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/donald-trump-birthright-american-citizenship/).
-Deport 5 million undocumented immigrants (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-latest-plan-would-target-at-least-5-million-undocumented-immigrants-for-deportation/2016/09/01/d6f05498-7052-11e6-9705-23e51a2f424d_story.html)—or the 2 to 3 million that Trump says have criminal records.
-Make it harder (http://qz.com/830005/election-2016-donald-trumps-actions-on-the-h1-b-visa-are-still-unclear-but-it-wont-be-good-for-indian-it-firms-and-students/) for companies to hire skilled foreign workers.
-Stop federal funds from going to "sanctuary cities" (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/politics/sanctuary-cities-donald-trump/) that don't comply with immigration officials looking to deport undocumented immigrants who have been detained by police.
-Bring back waterboarding (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-on-waterboarding-if-it-doesnt-work-they-deserve-it-anyway/). (Though one of Trump's reported candidates for secretary of defense, retired Marne General James Mattis, told the president-elect waterboarding didn't work, Trump still hasn't changed his mind (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-waterboarding-new-york-times-still-in-favour-a7438976.html).)



-"Go after" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-terrorists_us_56e0d7cde4b065e2e3d4d82d) the families of terrorists—for what it's worth, Trump says he didn't mean "kill."
-Sign an executive order calling for the death penalty for anyone found guilty of killing a police officer (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/donald-trump-death-penalty/420069/).
-Close parts of the internet to stop ISIS recruiters (http://time.com/4150891/republican-debate-donald-trump-internet/).



How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.

resister
01-13-2017, 11:47 PM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list.






How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.
I genuinely want to know if you will let him be on the job even one month and repost this thread? In the meantime post a similar one about the guy that has 8 years to truly let us down, start with ACA

decedent
01-13-2017, 11:52 PM
I genuinely want to know if you will let him be on the job even one month and repost this thread? In the meantime post a similar one about the guy that has 8 years to truly let us down, start with ACA

An Obama deflection? I was expecting a Hillary one. Congrats on your expanded repertoire.

This thread will be updated regularly, because Trump lies regularly and he has made many, many campaign promises.

And back on track, how do you feel about Trump breaking so many campaign promises already?

resister
01-13-2017, 11:55 PM
An Obama deflection? I was expecting a Hillary one. Congrats on your expanded repertoire.


This thread will be updated regularly, because Trump lies regularly and he has made many campaign promises.


He's your guy, not mine.
You would be the deflector here, he is not in office yet, we can count on you to bash the man unabashedly before he even gets hired.

Crepitus
01-14-2017, 12:00 AM
True he's not in office yet. Also true that he promised all these things and is now backing out of them by his own statements even though he hasn't officially taken office yet. Imagine how bad it will get when he finally does.

I mean for however long he lasts before the impeachment.

decedent
01-14-2017, 12:01 AM
You would be the deflector here, he is not in office yet, we can count on you to bash the man unabashedly before he even gets hired.

He doesn't need to be in office to break a campaign promise.


If a person promises to do something, then he says that he's not going to do it, that's a broken promise.


An infant can understand this.



True he's not in office yet. Also true that he promised all these things and is now backing out of them by his own statements even though he hasn't officially taken office yet.

How amazing is it that this has to be explained to an adult.


Denial is the first stage of grief. :-(

resister
01-14-2017, 12:05 AM
He doesn't need to be in office to break a campaign promise.


If a person promises to do something, then he says that he's not going to do it, that's a broken promise.


An infant can understand this.




How amazing is it that this has to be explained to an adult.


Denial is the first stage of grief. :-(
Lefty default mode, insults, preciate it. Interesting, you now expect politicians to tell the truth!

del
01-14-2017, 12:05 AM
and the deflections continue

Captain Obvious
01-14-2017, 12:15 AM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/316/773/59d.jpg

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 12:59 AM
Did Obama violate his promise to close GITMO by Jan 10, 2009?

resister
01-14-2017, 01:00 AM
Did Obama violate his promise to close GITMO by Jan 10, 2009?
Crickets....peaceful chirping

AZ Jim
01-14-2017, 01:11 AM
Why hasn't GITMO been closed? Read it and weep Trumpies! http://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-obama/

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 01:14 AM
Obama lied about that. He broke that promise before he was actually the president.

Hal Jordan
01-14-2017, 01:45 AM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list.






How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.

Oh, just wait. this doesn't even scratch the surface of what they have coming... Or don't have coming, as the case may be...

stjames1_53
01-14-2017, 05:29 AM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list.






How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.

none. He's not in office yet...even YOU should realize that

FindersKeepers
01-14-2017, 09:19 AM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list. How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.

He hasn't even taken office yet. The time to asses a president's broken or kept promises is when he leaves.

You've not just put the cart in front of the horse -- you don't even have a horse.

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 09:22 AM
none. He's not in office yet...even YOU should realize that

Well, Obama broke his promise that the oceans would stop rising before he took office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto

Broken promises prior to taking office.

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 09:23 AM
He hasn't even taken office yet. The time to asses a president's broken or kept promises is when he leaves.

You've not just put the cart in front of the horse -- you don't even have a horse.

Not in the minds of the unhinged.

MisterVeritis
01-14-2017, 11:22 AM
I like your list. Thanks.

decedent
01-14-2017, 01:23 PM
Did Obama violate his promise to close GITMO by Jan 10, 2009?

Yes. That's a broken promise by Obama. There's a few others, also.


Want to keep score? It looks like Trump has broken more election promises before taking office than Obama has in the last eight years.



He hasn't even taken office yet. The time to asses a president's broken or kept promises is when he leaves.


No need. The list posted is comprised solely of election promises Trump has already broken.

Bethere
01-14-2017, 01:34 PM
Obama lied about that. He broke that promise before he was actually the president.

He didn't lie. Congress stopped him.

But you knew that already, you were just being dishonest.

Bethere
01-14-2017, 01:36 PM
Oh, just wait. this doesn't even scratch the surface of what they have coming... Or don't have coming, as the case may be...

Lots of good fun awaits.

Be patient.

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 02:06 PM
Hint. We are making fun of you.

When I said Obama broke promises before he took office it was with the hope you would see how stupid such a concept it.

I guess it was for naught.


Yes. That's a broken promise by Obama. There's a few others, also.


Want to keep score? It looks like Trump has broken more election promises before taking office than Obama has in the last eight years.





No need. The list posted is comprised solely of election promises Trump has already broken.

Bethere
01-14-2017, 02:17 PM
Hint. We are making fun of you.

When I said Obama broke promises before he took office it was with the hope you would see how stupid such a concept it.

I guess it was for naught.
How's that serious side going?

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 02:26 PM
Great. I notice you aren't interested in serious stuff. To each his own.

Bethere
01-14-2017, 02:29 PM
Great. I notice you aren't interested in serious stuff. To each his own.
Lol.

birddog
01-14-2017, 02:45 PM
Liberals are liars, that's what they do. It's a primary prerequisite for being a liberal. They tend to deflect often which is their mode of action and rationalization.

decedent
01-14-2017, 04:29 PM
Hint. We are making fun of you.





I know. You worship Trump so much that you're fne with him conning you. How do you feel about him already breaking some of his biggest promises, like building a 'fence', locking up Hillary, kicking out 11 million immigrants, using waterboarding? There are many other broken promises from Trump on that list. I wonder at what point you'll realize you were conned by the best.



Liberals are liars, that's what they do. It's a primary prerequisite for being a liberal. They tend to deflect often which is their mode of action and rationalization.

Desperate deflection. A liberal could only hope to aspire to Trump's level of habitual dishonesty.

Ethereal
01-14-2017, 04:31 PM
I know. You worship Trump so much that you're fne with him conning you. How do you feel about him already breaking some of his biggest promises, like building a 'fence', locking up Hillary, kicking out 11 million immigrants, using waterboarding? There are many other broken promises from Trump on that list. I wonder at what point you'll realize you were conned by the best.

And you worship a woman who contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, and who enabled her rapist husband to violate and debase numerous women. How do you feel about that?

Mister D
01-14-2017, 08:04 PM
This is Vice's ongoing list of the promises Trump has broken. This is only a tiny fraction of Vice's list.






How do Trump voters feel about all of these broken promises? I genuinely want to know.
Vice as in the cable network? Some of their programming is interesting but their ideological rigidness is...well weird.

birddog
01-14-2017, 08:04 PM
I know. You worship Trump so much that you're fne with him conning you. How do you feel about him already breaking some of his biggest promises, like building a 'fence', locking up Hillary, kicking out 11 million immigrants, using waterboarding? There are many other broken promises from Trump on that list. I wonder at what point you'll realize you were conned by the best.




Desperate deflection. A liberal could only hope to aspire to Trump's level of habitual dishonesty.

You Fail.

I stated several months ago that if Trump accomplishes 25% of what he says he will, he will have accomplished more than any other president in decades, but he will do better. Dubya tried, introduced Bills to do so, but the dim congress would not do it. Again, libs are dishonest.

Peter1469
01-14-2017, 08:42 PM
Except I don't worship Trump, nor did I vote for him. You're confusion is evident.

Oh boy.


I know. You worship Trump so much that you're fne with him conning you. How do you feel about him already breaking some of his biggest promises, like building a 'fence', locking up Hillary, kicking out 11 million immigrants, using waterboarding? There are many other broken promises from Trump on that list. I wonder at what point you'll realize you were conned by the best.




Desperate deflection. A liberal could only hope to aspire to Trump's level of habitual dishonesty.

Bethere
01-14-2017, 09:29 PM
You Fail.

I stated several months ago that if Trump accomplishes 25% of what he says he will, he will have accomplished more than any other president in decades, but he will do better. Dubya tried, introduced Bills to do so, but the dim congress would not do it. Again, libs are dishonest.

No, you had a gop congress until Jim Jeffords, appalled by Republican extremism, left the party and gave Democrats control of the Senate.

That could easily happen again.

Even if it doesn't, nothing will become law without susan collins, john McCain, and lindsay Graham's rino seal of approval.

GrassrootsConservative
01-14-2017, 09:55 PM
The man is not even the fucking president yet, how can he have broken any promises? Lol. I waited until Obama had been in office at least a few months before I started talking about all of his broken promises. Closing Gitmo. More transparency. Ending the war. All that? Yeah. You all are jumping the shark it's a good thing you're abnormally hateful or you'd run out of hate before the man even assumes the office of presidency.

decedent
01-15-2017, 02:01 AM
You Fail.

I stated several months ago that if Trump accomplishes 25% of what he says he will, he will have accomplished more than any other president in decades, but he will do better. Dubya tried, introduced Bills to do so, but the dim congress would not do it. Again, libs are dishonest.

25% is half as much as Obama. But it's as good as you'll get with a habitual liar like Trump.


The problem with Trump's broken promises is that he's breaking the biggest promises of his campaign.

birddog
01-15-2017, 12:07 PM
25% is half as much as Obama. But it's as good as you'll get with a habitual liar like Trump.




The problem with Trump's broken promises is that he's breaking the biggest promises of his campaign.

You and the truth are far apart! Obama has accomplished much alright, the slowest recovery from a recession since WWII, setting back race relations 50 years, weakening the military and our standing in the world, and pushing thru Obamacare which is a total, expensive failure!

maineman
01-15-2017, 11:38 PM
You and the truth are far apart! Obama has accomplished much alright, the slowest recovery from a recession since WWII, setting back race relations 50 years, weakening the military and our standing in the world, and pushing thru Obamacare which is a total, expensive failure!

odd that you didn't mention the president which took us to the brink in that recession.... odd that the military budget has not been slashed like it was during Bush I, odd that you have no basis to support your suggestion our standing has been weakened in the world when, from my perspective, people around the world hold Obama in much higher regard than his predecessor, and your whining about Obamacare, I hope, will come back to bite your fat lazy ass when you get sick and have NO health care coverage once the GOP guts Obamacare with nothing to replace it.

stjames1_53
01-16-2017, 05:03 AM
odd that you didn't mention the president which took us to the brink in that recession.... odd that the military budget has not been slashed like it was during Bush I, odd that you have no basis to support your suggestion our standing has been weakened in the world when, from my perspective, people around the world hold Obama in much higher regard than his predecessor, and your whining about Obamacare, I hope, will come back to bite your fat lazy ass when you get sick and have NO health care coverage once the GOP guts Obamacare with nothing to replace it.

Those who are totally dependent upon government are in for a rude surprise. You should never count on government to supply you with your wishes. Stand up, man,,,,rule your own life!!!!!!!!!!

onecut
01-16-2017, 03:47 PM
You would be the deflector here, he is not in office yet, we can count on you to bash the man unabashedly before he even gets hired.

So lies BEFORE taking office mean nothing? I think they are a preview of things to come.

Tahuyaman
01-16-2017, 09:27 PM
Can you guys wait at least until one day after his inaguration before you make these claims of broken promises?

Captain Obvious
01-16-2017, 09:30 PM
Can you guys wait at least until one day after his inaguration before you make these claims of broken promises?

Nope.

These people's minds are already decided before Trump is even sworn in, regardless of what he does or doesn't do.

It's why these points should just be ignored.

Tahuyaman
01-16-2017, 10:12 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the liberals will claim 24 hours softer the inaguration that every one of Trumps campaign promises has been broken.

Peter1469
01-16-2017, 10:23 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the liberals will claim 24 hours softer the inaguration that every one of Trumps campaign promises has been broken.

Stupid is as stupid does. I expect that you are correct.

birddog
01-17-2017, 12:48 AM
Is it possible the libs around here cannot gracefully accept defeat? I feel their pain, AND I ENJOY IT!

AZ Jim
01-17-2017, 12:52 AM
Is it possible the libs around here cannot gracefully accept defeat? I feel their pain, AND I ENJOY IT!I have no pain. I am going to enjoy the short troubled trump administration when he has the whitehouse, both houses of congress and most likely the SCOTUS. He has no way out. It's gonna be fun.

stjames1_53
01-17-2017, 06:19 AM
I have no pain. I am going to enjoy the short troubled trump administration when he has the whitehouse, both houses of congress and most likely the SCOTUS. He has no way out. It's gonna be fun.

libs.............always planning for the short trip. That's where your problem lies.... it is impossible for a lib to have a long view

maineman
01-17-2017, 09:14 AM
libs.............always planning for the short trip. That's where your problem lies.... it is impossible for a lib to have a long view
au contraire Jimmy. If one examines the 20th century, it is filled with liberal successes that only were achieved by taking the long view. So many of the public policies that are squarely in the middle of the stream today started out as crazy far left progressive liberal dreams: women's suffrage, child labor laws, environmental protection, worker's unions, minimum wage, social security, civil rights, medicare, medicaid, ADA, gay rights... the list goes on and on. Progressive liberalism hands down WON the 20th century and we took the long view to do it. We'll win the 21st century in the same way. The orange clown is just a small bump in the road, so enjoy him for the short while it lasts.

Tahuyaman
01-17-2017, 10:48 AM
Liberals believe that their only failure is not getting more of what they want.

MisterVeritis
01-17-2017, 10:50 AM
I have no pain. I am going to enjoy the short troubled trump administration when he has the whitehouse, both houses of congress and most likely the SCOTUS. He has no way out. It's gonna be fun.
Cool. Do you plan to hang around for all eight years?

MisterVeritis
01-17-2017, 10:54 AM
No, you had a gop congress until Jim Jeffords, appalled by Republican extremism, left the party and gave Democrats control of the Senate.

What ever happened to "Jumpin' Jim"?

"Jeffords, the last Republican to hold federal office elected from Vermont, retired from the U.S. Senate in 2006 while in the early stages of Alzheimer's disease."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/18/james-jeffords-vermont-senator-dies/14232413/

maineman
01-17-2017, 10:58 AM
Oh... we have made some mistakes, for sure. Hillary was not as strong a candidate as I had hoped she might be. She made some tactical errors down the stretch. Democrats have, unfortunately, been loathe to play hardball politics with the intensity that Mitch & Co. play it. We lack party discipline. But my post is factually correct. Liberalism won the 20th Century and I see no reason why it won't win this one as well.

Remember the great sign at a tea bagger rally in 2010: "Keep your socialist hands off my Medicare!" What was once only dreamt of on the far left, is now virulently defended by the far right.

America may very well be a center-right country, but that "center" has shifted so far leftward over the past century, that where the center now stands used to be out of the water on the left bank....now, it's in the mainstream. Call that "center-right" all you like, we both know what really happened. ;)

MisterVeritis
01-17-2017, 10:58 AM
au contraire Jimmy. If one examines the 20th century, it is filled with liberal successes that only were achieved by taking the long view. So many of the public policies that are squarely in the middle of the stream today started out as crazy far left progressive liberal dreams: women's suffrage, child labor laws, environmental protection, worker's unions, minimum wage, social security, civil rights, medicare, medicaid, ADA, gay rights... the list goes on and on. Progressive liberalism hands down WON the 20th century and we took the long view to do it. We'll win the 21st century in the same way. The orange clown is just a small bump in the road, so enjoy him for the short while it lasts.
This is why we need a state-legislature-led Article V convention of state to propose amendments. Evil people figured out how to subvert the Constitution without penalty. It is time to give the Constitution some real teeth and claws.

Tahuyaman
01-23-2017, 12:08 PM
Vice's List of All the Promises Broken by Donald Trump
Do the three EO's Trump just signed fall into the category of broken promises too?