Obama: ‘Chelsea Manning Has Served a Tough Prison Sentence

[Common]

Obama is just a lieing pos. Manning served a hard prision sentence ?? Manning spent most of his time in a prison hospital getting a sex change on OUR MONEY while charged with treason. Others have gotten life in Fed Prison for less. Thank God this clown is hitting the door

President Barack Obama in his last presidential news conference on Wednesday defended his decision to commute (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-cuts-short-chelsea-mannings-prison-sentence) the sentence of former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, referring to Manning as “she” and saying that Manning, who was convicted of leaking more than 700,000 U.S. documents, “served a tough prison sentence.”

“First of all, let’s be clear: Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who was thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/obama-chelsea-manning-has-served-tough-prison-sentence

[exotix]

Cool .... another Chelsea Manning thread ....


Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Mannings Sentence
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/76882-Obama-Commutes-Bulk-of-Chelsea-Mannings-Sentence


Obama cummutes Chelsea Manning's 45 year sentence

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/76884-Obama-cummutes-Chelsea-Manning-s-45-year-sentence

[Cigar]

Don't care one way or the other ...

[Shady Slim]

Don't care one way or the other ...

Yes, that seems to be the problem with the left. So I understand your "solution".

[Common Sense]

Obama is just a lieing pos. Manning served a hard prision sentence ?? Manning spent most of his time in a prison hospital getting a sex change on OUR MONEY while charged with treason. Others have gotten life in Fed Prison for less. Thank God this clown is hitting the door

President Barack Obama in his last presidential news conference on Wednesday defended his decision to commute (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-cuts-short-chelsea-mannings-prison-sentence) the sentence of former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, referring to Manning as “she” and saying that Manning, who was convicted of leaking more than 700,000 U.S. documents, “served a tough prison sentence.”

“First of all, let’s be clear: Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who was thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/obama-chelsea-manning-has-served-tough-prison-sentence

To my knowledge, Manning hasn't had reassignment surgery. In 2016, Manning was told that she would get reassignment surgery. So the allegation that he spent most of his time in a hospital getting surgery is a lie.

I find it funny that some have no issue with wikileaks and the effect on the electoral process, but this they object to.

[Cigar]

Yes, that seems to be the problem with the left. So I understand your "solution".

Let me rephrase, I don't give a flying f"ck :grin:

[Peter1469]

I think he only had the hormone treatments and has not been mutilated yet.

Also, I think he spent a lot of time in solitary confinement. For most people that is very hard on them.

[exotix]

I think he only had the hormone treatments and has not been mutilated yet.

Also, I think he spent a lot of time in solitaire. For most people that is very hard on them.Waste of tax-payer money so pardon 'em and set 'em free.

[Peter1469]

Waste of tax-payer money so pardon 'em and set 'em free.

You don't know what you are talking about. A military cannot operate if soldiers believe they can do whatever they wish. The army could have put the death penalty on the table in his court-martial for what he did.

[exotix]

You don't know what you are talking about. A military cannot operate if soldiers believe they can do whatever they wish. The army could have put the death penalty on the table in his court-martial for what he did.We need to set free a transgender high-treason traitor and ban snowflake counseling due to distress in electing a Cheeto ... LOL

[resister]

I served seven years in prison for petty juvenile crimes, 3 months in confinement at age 17, nobody"pardoned" my ass, but a national traitor gets pardoned by the same.

[Green Arrow]

I served seven years in prison for petty juvenile crimes, 3 months in confinement at age 17, nobody"pardoned" my ass, but a national traitor gets pardoned by the same.

Manning isn't a traitor. If anything she's a hero.

[MMC]

Manning isn't a traitor. If anything she's a hero.
Mannings a traitor. Even if it couldn't figure out what it was.

[resister]

Manning isn't a traitor. If anything she's a hero.
Care to tell us why you believe this?

[MMC]

Care to tell us why you believe this?

He doesn't know what Manning did, other than giving up classified material.
He essentially gave away the US's war logs for Afghanistan and Iraq, in those logs were the names of locals giving info on the enemy to the US coalition.

[Green Arrow]

Care to tell us why you believe this?

She exposed the nefarious and unconstitutional actions of our government. We the people have a right to know.

[resister]

She exposed the nefarious and unconstitutional actions of our government. We the people have a right to know.So...compromising the safety of troops is cool?

[Green Arrow]

So...compromising the safety of troops is cool?

Point out where I said those words.

[MMC]

It stole classified material. It took an Oath with the Military and broke that Oath. It aided and abetted the enemy for all Coalition members.

It got allies informants killed.

[resister]

Point out where I said those words.
That is what"it" did, for the record, dressing up like a chick, does not make he a "she"

[resister]

It stole classified material. It took an Oath with the Military and broke that Oath. It aided and abetted the enemy for all Coalition members.

It got allies informants killed.And he calls "her" a hero ???:huh:

[MMC]

And he calls "her" a hero ???:huh:

The leftness has destroyed the definition of a Hero. According to them anyone and anything is a hero. Celebs, sports figures, and now even traitors.

[Tahuyaman]

To my knowledge, Manning hasn't had reassignment surgery. In 2016, Manning was told that she would get reassignment surgery. So the allegation that he spent most of his time in a hospital getting surgery is a lie.

I find it funny that some have no issue with wikileaks and the effect on the electoral process, but this they object to.


If he hasn't had "reassignment surgery" why do you refer to him as a "she"? Can you become a female by legally changing your name?

Still, I have to laugh at the modern politically correct use of language. Reassignment surgery..... As if your gender is assigned. Who assigned your gender?

[The Xl]

I see republicans hating on manning and calling for his head while liberals stand up for him, and republicans cheering for assange and snowden while the left hates on them and calls for their head. What a truly hack infested bizzaro world we live in.

[Tahuyaman]

The leftness has destroyed the definition of a Hero. According to them anyone and anything is a hero. Celebs, sports figures, and now even traitors.

The word hero is thrown out so much that it is becoming almost irrelevant. Leftists can call people a hero for demonstrating cowardice.

[Tahuyaman]

I see republicans hating on manning and calling for his head while liberals stand up for him, and republicans cheering for assange and snowden while the left hates on them and calls for their head. What a truly hack infested bizzaro world we live in.

I have no idea who you are referring to. But I have never cheered for Assange. He's certainly no hero.

I have said that I think Snowden is a punk, but some of what he did might have been needed. I don't know if he disclosed anything sensitive to those who want to harm us. If he did, he should be dealt with when the opportunity arises. If he simply blew the whistle on illegal government activity, that's another issue.

Manning's actions got people killed. He should not be held up as any kind of hero by anyone. Commuting his sentence is a national disgrace.

[birddog]

You don't know what you are talking about. A military cannot operate if soldiers believe they can do whatever they wish. The army could have put the death penalty on the table in his court-martial for what he did.

True, in my opinion he should have been in front of a firing squad years ago. The sissy Obama likely never considered that especially since he should have also been with Manning in front of the firing squad.

[nathanbforrest45]

To my knowledge, Manning hasn't had reassignment surgery. In 2016, Manning was told that she would get reassignment surgery. So the allegation that he spent most of his time in a hospital getting surgery is a lie.

I find it funny that some have no issue with wikileaks and the effect on the electoral process, but this they object to.



First of all you have to believe that wikileaks actually made a difference in this election. You still have not understood why the American voter choose businessman Trump over socialist career politician Clinton. If the Russians hacked the DNC it would not made one iota of difference how the average Trump supporter voted.

You just don't like Trump because he's White and Male. Go on, admit it.

[Tahuyaman]

...You just don't like Trump because he's White and Male. Go on, admit it.

Honestly, they don't like Trump because he's brash, bombastic and a braggart. He's over the top in those areas and when confronted he doubles down on those things. The hand wringing liberals can't process that.

[Tahuyaman]

You don't know what you are talking about. A military cannot operate if soldiers believe they can do whatever they wish. The army could have put the death penalty on the table in his court-martial for what he did.


There's no defense for what he did. His commutation is a disgrace. It's an insult to all vets.

[Common Sense]

First of all you have to believe that wikileaks actually made a difference in this election. You still have not understood why the American voter choose businessman Trump over socialist career politician Clinton. If the Russians hacked the DNC it would not made one iota of difference how the average Trump supporter voted.

You just don't like Trump because he's White and Male. Go on, admit it.

LOL...I'm a white male. I have no problems with white males.

I do have an issue with inept charlatans though...more of an issue with those dumb enough to drink the snake oil.

[Peter1469]

We need to set free a transgender high-treason traitor and ban snowflake counseling due to distress in electing a Cheeto ... LOL

:shocked:

[MisterVeritis]

Manning isn't a traitor. If anything she's a hero.
Manning indirectly provided aid to an enemy we were fighting. Manning should have been tried for treason and executed.

[Green Arrow]

That is what"it" did, for the record, dressing up like a chick, does not make he a "she"

Can you demonstrate that Manning did what she did with the intent to harm this nation?

[donttread]

Obama is just a lieing pos. Manning served a hard prision sentence ?? Manning spent most of his time in a prison hospital getting a sex change on OUR MONEY while charged with treason. Others have gotten life in Fed Prison for less. Thank God this clown is hitting the door

President Barack Obama in his last presidential news conference on Wednesday defended his decision to commute (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-cuts-short-chelsea-mannings-prison-sentence) the sentence of former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, referring to Manning as “she” and saying that Manning, who was convicted of leaking more than 700,000 U.S. documents, “served a tough prison sentence.”

“First of all, let’s be clear: Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who was thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/obama-chelsea-manning-has-served-tough-prison-sentence

Protect those whistle blowers

[resister]

Can you demonstrate that Manning did what she did with the intent to harm this nation?Could yall stop encouraging mental illness? Putting on a dress does not make a Man a chick!

[Tahuyaman]

LOL...I'm a white male. I have no problems with white males.

I do have an issue with inept charlatans though...more of an issue with those dumb enough to drink the snake oil.

Then why do you keep drinking it?

[resister]

Then why do you keep drinking it?
If I where a dress, am I suddenly a she?

[Tahuyaman]

Can you demonstrate that Manning did what she did with the intent to harm this nation?


His, yes his actions did cause people to die. People were harmed because of his treasonous actions.

I know that stance is silly to people who haven't served in the military, but.....

[Tahuyaman]

If I where a dress, am I suddenly a she?

No. I have never claimed otherwise.

If a male actually believes he's a female, he's suffering from a mental illness. He's not just confused. He's ill and needs treatment, not people playing along with him. Playing along with a mental illness makes it much worse.

[Tahuyaman]

Manning indirectly provided aid to an enemy we were fighting. Manning should have been tried for treason and executed.


The death penalty may or may not have been imposed. I would have been satisfied with him having his freedom taken away from him for the rest of his life. If that resulted in him taking his own life, I'd be OK with that too.

[Don]

If I where a dress, am I suddenly a she?

If you wear a dress you would be a transvestite. If you had "sexual reassignments" surgery you would be a male with a mutilated penis who takes female hormones.

[Green Arrow]

Could yall stop encouraging mental illness? Putting on a dress does not make a Man a chick!

Your deflection is noted.

[resister]

Your deflection is noted.
Truth noted.

[nathanbforrest45]

Honestly, they don't like Trump because he's brash, bombastic and a braggart. He's over the top in those areas and when confronted he doubles down on those things. The hand wringing liberals can't process that.


Listen, for eight years all we heard was that we didn't like Obama because he was black. It is quite obvious that skin color is the only criteria they acknowledge. Since skin color is the only reason to like or dislike a candidate it is equally obvious they hate Trump because of his race.

[nathanbforrest45]

LOL...I'm a white male. I have no problems with white males.

I do have an issue with inept charlatans though...more of an issue with those dumb enough to drink the snake oil.


You mean like the average Obama voter?

[nathanbforrest45]

Can you demonstrate that Manning did what she did with the intent to harm this nation?


Can you demonstrate a drunk driver who killed someone intended to harm them?

Intent matters little under these circumstances

[donttread]

The death penalty may or may not have been imposed. I would have been satisfied with him having his freedom taken away from him for the rest of his life. If that resulted in him taking his own life, I'd be OK with that too.


You must really like your government's "right" to lie to you and make a fool of you .

[MisterVeritis]

The death penalty may or may not have been imposed. I would have been satisfied with him having his freedom taken away from him for the rest of his life. If that resulted in him taking his own life, I'd be OK with that too.
Once one has been executed a presidential pardon is irrelevant. Manning is a boy who wants to be a girl. In my opinion that is why Mooch convinced Barry to pardon him-her.

[nathanbforrest45]

You must really like your government's "right" to lie to you and make a fool of you .


Would you have said the same about the D Day invasion?

Do you not think some government secrets are in the best interest of the nation? I certainly do.

[MisterVeritis]

You must really like your government's "right" to lie to you and make a fool of you .
A state must have and keep secrets. Manning stole and gave away about 3/4ths of a million documents. In my opinion, whole Iraqi families were murdered because of Manning's actions. He should have been executed.

[Tahuyaman]

Listen, for eight years all we heard was that we didn't like Obama because he was black. It is quite obvious that skin color is the only criteria they acknowledge. Since skin color is the only reason to like or dislike a candidate it is equally obvious they hate Trump because of his race.

I'm Sticking with my view. Just because they employed idiotic tactics, doesn't mean idiotic tactics need to be used in return.

[nathanbforrest45]

I'm Sticking with my view. Just because they employed idiotic tactics, doesn't mean idiotic tactics need to be used in return.
I don't disagree with you, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the left

[Tahuyaman]

You must really like your government's "right" to lie to you and make a fool of you .

I'm not sure how you formed that question based on my comment.

[Tahuyaman]

Once one has been executed a presidential pardon is irrelevant. Manning is a boy who wants to be a girl. In my opinion that is why Mooch convinced Barry to pardon him-her.

I'm sure that Manning would have not received his commutation had his mental illness not been such a big story. It's kind of inconsistent to pardon him but not another convicted or charged with similar crimes. There's a reason Manning was singled out.

That reason was to throw a bone to a particular demographic.

[nic34]

If I where a dress, am I suddenly a she?

Only if YOU say so cupcake. LOL

[Tahuyaman]

I don't disagree with you, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the left

yes, they thrive on hypocrisy. That's why they get so outraged when you stick to the facts.