Students arrested for distributing the US Constitution.

[Tahuyaman]

Why do these things keep happening in these institutions where people are supposed to have intellectually liberty and supposedly encouraged to speak out on the issues of the day?

http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/21/students-arrested-constitutions-michigan


Students Arrested for Passing Out Pocket Constitutions on Michigan Community College Campus Sue School (http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/21/students-arrested-constitutions-michigan)

Young Americans for Liberty (YAL) members are fighting back after being charged with trespassing for handing out constitutions without permission

[Subdermal]

More tolerance on display from liberals.

[stjames1_53]

More tolerance on display from liberals.

they would rather raze the land from sea to sea, than try to get along. One day, they might start and realize they are only destroying themselves in the process and it'll be too late. They will inherit nothing, because they will have burned all of it down.
They never look beyond their eye lids.

[Peter1469]

This on a college campus....

This is closer to fascism than anything the left tosses the word around for.

[MMC]

they would rather raze the land from sea to sea, than try to get along. One day, they might start and realize they are only destroying themselves in the process and it'll be too late. They will inherit nothing, because they will have burned all of it down.
They never look beyond their eye lids.

They only talk a good game.....they can't walk the walk. Other than to walk to DC and do more talk.

[donttread]

Why do these things keep happening in these institutions where people are supposed to have intellectually liberty and supposedly encouraged to speak out on the issues of the day?

http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/21/students-arrested-constitutions-michigan


Students Arrested for Passing Out Pocket Constitutions on Michigan Community College Campus Sue School (http://reason.com/blog/2017/01/21/students-arrested-constitutions-michigan)

Young Americans for Liberty (YAL) members are fighting back after being charged with trespassing for handing out constitutions without permission



"Land of the free" my ass! The charge was bogus to begin with, they had every right to be there, they were not tresspassing. They were distributing literature the school didn't want it's students to have access to. Find a charge for that "Gomer"
Dropping the charges dosn't just automatically make their storm trooper BS , OK

[Captain Obvious]

The article headline is not honest, they were arrested and charged with trespassing.

[Captain Obvious]

They could have been passing out recipes for lasagne and charged with the same thing.

[donttread]

they would rather raze the land from sea to sea, than try to get along. One day, they might start and realize they are only destroying themselves in the process and it'll be too late. They will inherit nothing, because they will have burned all of it down.
They never look beyond their eye lids.

They can't go that far and I think they know it. The percentage of ultra liberals that could actually take care of themselves in such a situation by farming, hunting, fishing, defending their turf and stores , and making coffee out of roadside weeds ( Specific roadside weeds , so don't try this at home , instead of buying $5.00 Lottes) is very, very low. If they raise everything from sea to sea the cons win hands down

[Adelaide]

The article headline is not honest, they were arrested and charged with trespassing.

And violated school policy on solicitation.

I don't really believe in the safe space crap or extensive censorship, but university is the last stop before the "real world" for most students. There is a student handbook and rules that they are expected to follow. If they have a problem with the rules, there are ways to go about changing them. Being an adult and a responsible one means following rules. Considering how often people say that young people have no drive or integrity or work ethic, it's kind of funny to see them say universities shouldn't have rules that would be in place in most work environments in the country.

At any rate, I see nothing wrong with handing out pocket constitutions in theory, but I do not support encouraging people to violate rules.

[Captain Obvious]

And violated school policy on solicitation.

I don't really believe in the safe space crap or extensive censorship, but university is the last stop before the "real world" for most students. There is a student handbook and rules that they are expected to follow. If they have a problem with the rules, there are ways to go about changing them. Being an adult and a responsible one means following rules. Considering how often people say that young people have no drive or integrity or work ethic, it's kind of funny to see them say universities shouldn't have rules that would be in place in most work environments in the country.

At any rate, I see nothing wrong with handing out pocket constitutions in theory, but I do not support encouraging people to violate rules.

But lasagne recipes offend you?

[Cigar]

More tolerance on display from liberals.

We learned from the Best ... How yea like it now? :laugh:

This is how it's going to be from this day forward, you get what you gave. :grin:

[MMC]

We learned from the Best ... How yea like it now? :laugh:

This is how it's going to be from this day forward, you get what you gave. :grin:

Yes you did.....the Demos are the bestest ever at losing and failing. So we like it.


Sorry we didn't give you anything about losing and being losers, that you learned all on your own.

Now you just need to accept your reality and live with that butt-hurt-itis. Don't you worry tho.....we will help you to gulp it down thru the filter.

[nathanbforrest45]

If they were arrested for trespass while handing out Planned Parenthood literature would they left have claimed they were arrested for trespass and should be jailed?

[Subdermal]

We learned from the Best ... How yea like it now? :laugh:

This is how it's going to be from this day forward, you get what you gave. :grin:

It's been exactly like this from this day backwards as well.

[Cigar]

It's been exactly like this from this day backwards as well.

Then you should be comfortable and in familiar territory :laugh: so what are you B!tching About

[stjames1_53]

"Trump's been raping and molesting women while Melania has done a porno" (politely paraphrased) came from the Alt-Left. You didn't hear us say that...and even if we did, we'd have the proof. You would demand it.....................right @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)

[Tahuyaman]

The article headline is not honest, they were arrested and charged with trespassing.

They were students of tbat very community college. Are all students trespassing when they aren't in class?

[del]

lol

[Tahuyaman]

If they were arrested for trespass while handing out Planned Parenthood literature would they left have claimed they were arrested for trespass and should be jailed?


They would not have been arrested if they were hanging out info on PP.

[Safety]

They were students of tbat very community college. Are all students trespassing when they aren't in class?

But they were not arrested for handing out the US Constitution, they were arrested for trespassing. You are considered trespassing when an owner asks you to leave their property. If you go to a basketball game on campus, you are not trespassing, but if after the game you continue to stay after they tell you to leave, you will be guilty of trespassing.

[Tahuyaman]

I knew the more liberal leaning people here could figure out a way to support the arrest of these kids.

[Safety]

They would not have been arrested if they were hanging out info on PP.
Chris

[Chris]

Chris

What, you expect me to read that the way you twist words? Not going to happen.

[del]

lol

didn't see that coming

[Safety]

What, you expect me to read that the way you twist words? Not going to happen.

I thought I'd share the wealth, since you have so much time pointing out tu quoque's with me. Obviously, I knew your response would be a dismissive one, but it's on record.

[del]

be careful not to precipitate a meltdown

[Safety]

lol

didn't see that coming

You mean the blatant dismissal of a tu quoque by turning it back to me as if it's my fault?

Say it isn't so!

[Safety]

be careful not to precipitate a meltdown

Burn!

[Subdermal]

I thought I'd share the wealth, since you have so much time pointing out tu quoque's with me. Obviously, I knew your response would be a dismissive one, but it's on record.

It's got to be exhausting being as petty as you act.

[del]

make sense for a change

Infraction for continued trolling, 3 days in the hole.

[Safety]

It's got to be exhausting being as petty as you act.

No, it gives me solace to know that it irritates the hell out of people like you. Would you like another?

[Chris]

I thought I'd share the wealth, since you have so much time pointing out tu quoque's with me. Obviously, I knew your response would be a dismissive one, but it's on record.

His wan't a tu quoque. You still have yet to understand that fallacy.

[Chris]

No, it gives me solstice to know that it irritates the hell out of people like you. Would you like another?

Winter or summer?

[Safety]

His wan't a tu quoque. You still have yet to understand that fallacy.

Of course it wasn't to you, for it was not a liberal opinion. However, according to the fallacy guideline....

Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwiː/;[1] Latin for, "you also") or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).

Tah asserted that if the persons arrested were handing out PP pamphlets instead of the Constitution, then they would not have been arrested. That was an attempt to appeal to hypocrisy.

If that is not a tu quoque, then you errored in the other thread accusing crepitus and I of one. Which is it?

[Safety]

Winter or summer?

Oooo, good one.

[Chris]

Of course it wasn't to you, for it was not a liberal opinion. However, according to the fallacy guideline....


Tah asserted that if the persons arrested were handing out PP pamphlets instead of the Constitution, then they would not have been arrested. That was an attempt to appeal to hypocrisy.

If that is not a tu quoque, then you errored in the other thread accusing crepitus and I of one. Which is it?


I know what tu quoque means.

Way I read tah is he is addressing another issue. No tu quoque.

[Safety]

I know what tu quoque means.

Way I read tah is he is addressing another issue. No tu quoque.


....and that's why we're done here.

[del]

lol

[Chris]

Oooo, good one.

Just seen you use solstice now several times when you mean solace. My dumbphone does that.

[Chris]

....and that's why we're done here.

Yes, because we have a difference of opinion.

[del]

saw, not seen

[stjames1_53]

But they were not arrested for handing out the US Constitution, they were arrested for trespassing. You are considered trespassing when an owner asks you to leave their property. If you go to a basketball game on campus, you are not trespassing, but if after the game you continue to stay after they tell you to leave, you will be guilty of trespassing.
so..........when BLM took over Mizzou in protest, that was ok, but handing out the Constitution is a no-no. They are students and have a right to be there. The so-called trespassing charges will evaporate

[Safety]

so..........when BLM took over Mizzou in protest, that was ok, but handing out the Constitution is a no-no. They are students and have a right to be there. The so-called trespassing charges will evaporate
Chris

Is this tu quoque a "difference of opinion" also?

[stjames1_53]

Yes, because we have a difference of opinion.

....and you're the intolerant one for not joining the dark side...............

[Cannons Front]

By no means a constitutional scholar, but as this is a community college they do not have the same rights to deny free speech as a private college. Their land is public not private which leads to the freedom of assembly as well as speech. I know there was a community college a few years back in Northern Ohio that found this same thing out for trying to control where students could protest.


I am all about teaching the college age that rules apply and they must be followed, I just question if they are being enforced equally.

[Chris]

Chris

Is this tu quoque a "difference of opinion" also?


No. Tu quoque tries to justify wrongs illogically. Tu quoque tries to say two wrongs make a right.

[Tahuyaman]

But they were not arrested for handing out the US Constitution, they were arrested for trespassing. You are considered trespassing when an owner asks you to leave their property. If you go to a basketball game on campus, you are not trespassing, but if after the game you continue to stay after they tell you to leave, you will be guilty of trespassing.

who owns a community college campus?

Why can those of the liberal mind-set acknowledge these obvious attempts to silence certain non-liberal political speech?

[MisterVeritis]

To be fair to the liberals who run the community college the Constitution is subversive literature. It has no place on a liberal campus.

[Cigar]

"Trump's been raping and molesting women while Melania has done a porno" (politely paraphrased) came from the Alt-Left. You didn't hear us say that...and even if we did, we'd have the proof. You would demand it.....................right @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)

Don't forget The Clinton's trafficking little Girls for Bill

[Tahuyaman]

To be fair to the liberals who run the community college the Constitution is subversive literature. It has no place on a liberal campus.

Kudos to you. You made me laugh.

[Safety]

who owns a community college campus?

Why can those of the liberal mind-set acknowledge these obvious attempts to silence certain non-liberal political speech?

Who cares who owns the campus, the ones arrested evidently didn't own it. It's like the other member said about BLM, if they are told to leave or else they are trespassing, then they need to leave. Your partisanship is clouding your ability to understand it doesn't matter "what" they were soliciting, when asked to leave a place you don't own, and you don't, be prepared to be arrested for trespassing.

[stjames1_53]

Don't forget The Clinton's trafficking little Girls for Bill

so, no.....you've been lying about this all along.....gotcha

[Captain Obvious]

Million muff march

Hope everyone feels better now that the cramps stopped.

[Captain Obvious]

Million muff march

Hope everyone feels better now that the cramps stopped.

Wrong thread derp

[Tahuyaman]

Who cares who owns the campus,....

It's not privately owned as you so ignorantly suggested.

[del]

Wrong thread derp

it's okay.

it's just as stupid here as it would be there

[Tahuyaman]

You go girl.

[del]

oh, look

it's the runner up from who's smarter than a 5th grader

[Safety]

oh, look

it's the runner up from who's smarter than a 5th grader

You forgot the word "not".

[Safety]

It's not privately owned as you so ignorantly suggested.

The point soared over your head, unsurprisingly.

[Bo-4]

Stupid Troll Tread ^^^

[Cthulhu]

And violated school policy on solicitation.

I don't really believe in the safe space crap or extensive censorship, but university is the last stop before the "real world" for most students. There is a student handbook and rules that they are expected to follow. If they have a problem with the rules, there are ways to go about changing them. Being an adult and a responsible one means following rules. Considering how often people say that young people have no drive or integrity or work ethic, it's kind of funny to see them say universities shouldn't have rules that would be in place in most work environments in the country.

At any rate, I see nothing wrong with handing out pocket constitutions in theory, but I do not support encouraging people to violate rules.
Me thinks that depends on whether or not it is a private (and if it accepts public grant money for example) or institution.

If a public institution I don't think it is lawful to have a contract that abridges your unalienable rights. Private institutions have different rules due it being private property, but that can change as well depending on contacts they sign with a government.

Disclaimer: didn't read the article.

Fear profits a man nothing.

[stjames1_53]

....and that's why we're done here.

no you're not............

[del]

no you're not............

yeah, we are, unless your appetite for fail is unlimited

[stjames1_53]

yeah, we are, unless your appetite for fail is unlimited

but you're still here? Why is that?

[del]

but you're still here? Why is that?

i enjoy laughing at you

[Tahuyaman]

Stupid Troll Tread ^^^

Bo-4 thinks the constitution has something to do with the frequency he has a bowel movement.

[stjames1_53]

i enjoy laughing at you

only losers laugh at the winners....... and I spelled that correctly.

[Beevee]

No. Tu quoque tries to justify wrongs illogically. Tu quoque tries to say two wrongs make a right.

Then two c oc ks are better than one.

[Adelaide]

Then two c oc ks are better than one.

Do not try to go around the forum censors. Each member can turn it on or off but by going around it you deny people the ability to choose not to see foul language. Don't do that.