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FindersKeepers
02-03-2017, 06:50 AM
Maybe some Democrats are starting to wise up? Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy seems to be on the right track.


In the frenzied opening days of the rebellious Trump era, top leaders in the Democratic Party (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-01-31/democrats-blunder-in-opposing-trump-supreme-court-pick-neil-gorsuch) have taken a posture of relentless, immovable, caustic opposition – assailing the commander in chief at every turn and often employing extreme rhetoric to punctuate its impact. It is a cold-blooded approach that's required for this precarious moment, they say, given the severe changes Trump is attempting on everything from how the U.S. should deliver health care to who should be allowed to become an American citizen.

But there's a risk in outright, perpetual obstruction as well and it's simmering below the surface in conversations between Democratic lawmakers, leaders and strategists as the party debates the most effective path forward: If Democrats protest everything with hair-on-fire outrage, will anything end up sticking with the American public beyond their infinite indignity? If they cry wolf every 12 hours, will the effect of their urgency wane over time? Instead of presenting an alternative vision, will they end up looking simply like a party of outrage?

"We need to be guided by a positive message about economic growth for everybody and a country that includes everybody," says Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who has expressed concern about the party's focus in reacting to Trump. "We can't respond to everything. You have to decide what to respond to based on what your vision for the country is."




http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-02/democrats-permanent-outrage-at-donald-trump

stjames1_53
02-03-2017, 07:10 AM
nope. Not according to this morning's news...........and they be a bunch of it

midcan5
02-03-2017, 07:24 AM
That would be interesting in an alternate universe but 'come on, man'. The right has created a bubble world in which words mean things that are dog whistles for the believers, they didn't do that by being rational and thoughtful etc. They did that with propaganda and repetition, I do not even have to mention any of the words as the thoughtful reader knows them, the bubble person hears them and meaning is already attached. Democrats need to learn that tactic and while being intelligent and calm is nice, the words from our current president during the election stand out in bold contrast to rational conversation. Wake up and smell the reality.

“In a perverse way,” Taibbi wrote in August 2015, “Trump has restored a more pure democracy to this process. He's taken the Beltway thinkfluencers out of the game and turned the presidency into a pure high-school-style popularity contest conducted entirely in the media.”"http://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/2/1/14412450/donald-trump-matt-taibbi-elections-2016-hillary-clinton-media

FindersKeepers
02-03-2017, 07:28 AM
That would be interesting in an alternate universe but 'come on, man'. The right has created a bubble world in which words mean things that are dog whistles for the believers, they didn't do that by being rational and thoughtful etc. They did that with propaganda and repetition, I do not even have to mention any of the words as the thoughtful reader knows them, the bubble person hears them and meaning is already attached. Democrats need to learn that tactic and while being intelligent and calm is nice, the words from our current president during the election stand out in bold contrast to rational conversation. Wake up and smell the reality.


If the dog whistle words truly exist -- do they not exist in the realm of free speech?

Crepitus
02-03-2017, 07:29 AM
LOL at the way you guys act like it's only one party that does that!

What about things like this?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/77977-Protesters-storm-NYU-over-conservative-speaker%E2%80%99s-seminar

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/77978-Seattle-%E2%80%9CProtester%E2%80%9D-White-People-Need-to-Give

And that just on political forum just this morning.

How about all the RWNJ talk radio hosts freaking out about the post election protests? Or President Obama's last action in office? Or the size of the inaugural crowd?

And lets not even mention the last 8 years of "bed shitting" (to co-opt a popular conservative term) about health care, gun control, the "war on christianity" and any number of other things.

Talk about hypocrisy at it's finest.

http://memeshappen.com/media/created/not-sure-if-lmao-or-smh-meme-46918.jpg

Common
02-03-2017, 07:36 AM
Crepitus is the perpetual denier and accuser. Whenever confronted with a facutal truth about his side its always NO ITS YOUR SIDE.

Everyone knows how ridiculous this particular dodge is, all you have to do is read the paper or turn on the tv and watch the liberals act like spoiled children whose mommy refused them candy before dinner.

The right does not riot, does not burn and loot, does not block several streets and inconvenience citizens trying to go to work. The right does not cost cities a FORTUNE in Police and Fire overtime. Sorry its not the right that incessantly rages when they dont get their way and its the left that attempts to stifle any speech they dont like.

Facts and reality doesnt lie, you can try but no one buys it

MMC
02-03-2017, 07:41 AM
Maybe some Democrats are starting to wise up? Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy seems to be on the right track.



http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-02/democrats-permanent-outrage-at-donald-trump

Its their blue dogs that are thinking with some common sense. Murphy isn't the only one. Tim Ryan out of Ohio is another.

Naturally they will be ostracized by the Progressives and illiberals.

Crepitus
02-03-2017, 07:58 AM
Crepitus is the perpetual denier and accuser. Whenever confronted with a facutal truth about his side its always NO ITS YOUR SIDE.

Everyone knows how ridiculous this particular dodge is, all you have to do is read the paper or turn on the tv and watch the liberals act like spoiled children whose mommy refused them candy before dinner.

The right does not riot, does not burn and loot, does not block several streets and inconvenience citizens trying to go to work. The right does not cost cities a FORTUNE in Police and Fire overtime. Sorry its not the right that incessantly rages when they dont get their way and its the left that attempts to stifle any speech they dont like.

Facts and reality doesnt lie, you can try but no one buys it

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/8a/60/e08a60355010f02d7a0e641fd6f472ce.jpg

Cigar
02-03-2017, 08:18 AM
Someone needs new Democratic Friends :laugh: