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Adelaide
02-13-2017, 08:16 AM
Three days into Donald Trump’s presidency, the nonpartisan watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/08/watchdog-group-files-complaint-with-irs-against-trump-foundation.html) in Washington filed a lawsuit charging Trump with violating the Constitution. Since the ’70s, every president who has owned a business sold it to avoid conflicts of interest. But Trump ignored precedent, turning his businesses over to his sons instead. He claimed he would not be involved with daily operations or benefit from the companies while in office. Yet documents recently discovered (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2017_02_03_us_politics_donald-2Dtrump-2Dbusiness.html-3Fhp-26action-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dfirst-2Dcolumn-2Dregion-26region-3Dtop-2Dnews-26WT.nav-3Dtop-2Dnews-26-5Fr-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=r30hyXAdWe8oret4PlAIyA&r=3tmueR0gt2edP-ly6CjEm9YieoaoSVA9rZXR1nqJXjo&m=AuEcbTKUTi-K5fv8YdprZ-25f2cLKVh9kiWBvU9OQcU&s=FGnZrxQZRet3uvsYQc2zgeaFG4IM36FcDURIBDtnJZU&e=) show that Trump continues to benefit from them, and because the companies receive payments from foreign governments, President Trump is, the suit argues, violating the Constitution. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/23/justice-dept-to-defend-trump-in-lawsuit.html) Trump called the suit “totally without merit.”


Zephyr Teachout, the former New York gubernatorial and congressional candidate (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/18/can-new-york-democrat-zephyr-teachout-stop-governor-andrew-cuomo.html), is one of the lawyers on the suit. A Fordham law professor, Teachout is an expert on political corruption and conflicts of interest. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/08/donald-trump-s-huge-conflict-of-interest-in-turkey.html) She is adamant that President Trump’s thorny business relationships are the kind the Framers were concerned about. In 2014, Teachout authored Corruption in America (https://www.amazon.com/Corruption-America-Benjamin-Franklins-Citizens/dp/0674659988), a book about how our Founding Fathers viewed political corruption and the safeguards they put in place to prevent it. One of those safeguards is a constitutional clause that prohibits federal officials from taking benefits from foreign governments. I recently spoke to Teachout about the suit, the president’s vast conflicts of interests, and why the Framers wanted impeachment to be a potential punishment for them.



Is Trump Stiffing the Constitution Over His Conflict of Interests? (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/12/is-trump-stiffing-the-constitution-over-his-conflicts-of-interest.html)

The impeachment part is nonesense, but it would be troublesome if it true that he still profits from his businesses which take foreign payments and investments.

Crepitus
02-13-2017, 08:23 AM
If he's actually violating the constitution why would the impeachment part be nonsense?

DGUtley
02-13-2017, 08:32 AM
If he's actually violating the constitution why would the impeachment part be nonsense?

The circumstances for impeachment are limited. This is not one of them. It's neither a high crime nor a misdemeanor. As I previously explained, there's a scholarly dispute regarding whether the Emoluments Clause even applies to him. There have been two major writings on it and the conclusions were split. I think we can agree that it (the Presidency) is not an office of trust (research it). Is it an office of profit? I don't know.

Peter1469
02-13-2017, 04:00 PM
Selling major corporations and high rise buildings is not something US presidents have had to worry about in the past. And the current rules don't contemplate it.

Captain Obvious
02-13-2017, 04:06 PM
The impeachment part is nonsense. The desperate left would impeach Trump for farting.

Teh O'bama's profited from the presidency, so did Clinton and Rodham.

What's the difference?

Peter1469
02-13-2017, 04:07 PM
Clinton rented out the Lincoln bedroom. Not many people got worked up over that.

Captain Obvious
02-13-2017, 04:08 PM
Clinton rented out the Lincoln bedroom. Not many people got worked up over that.

No extra charge for Billy boy too.