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Peter1469
02-16-2017, 07:46 PM
Vice Admiral Robert Harward turns down NSA position (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-harward-idUSKBN15V2Z7)

He wanted personnel changes that Trump did not agree too.


President Donald Trump's choice for national security adviser, retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward, has turned down the offer, a senior White House official said on Thursday.


Harward was offered the job after Michael Flynn was fired by Trump on Monday for misleading Vice President Mike Pence over his conversations with Russia's ambassador to the United States.


The White House official said Harward cited family and financial reasons for opting not to take the job. Harward is a senior executive at Lockheed Martin.
Two sources familiar with the decision said Harward turned down the job in part because he wanted to bring in his own team.



That put him at odds with Trump, who had told Flynn's deputy, K.T. McFarland, that she could stay.

exotix
02-16-2017, 07:47 PM
Finally someone has wised-up to the personal-destruction Trump causes.

Safety
02-16-2017, 07:48 PM
Harward saw the writing on the wall.

Cigar
02-16-2017, 07:48 PM
I don'
t blame him, no one wants to be a part of the Circus

Don
02-16-2017, 07:55 PM
Vice Admiral Robert Harward turns down NSA position (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-harward-idUSKBN15V2Z7)

He wanted personnel changes that Trump did not agree too.

Good. The president is the boss and if he didn't want him to "bring his team with him" then Harward was right to not accept the position and the president was right for not giving him carte blanche.

I think Harward was a bad choice anyway. These guys who have military careers then retire and go to work for defense contractors are the problem. Part of the swamp that needs drained. The military industrial complex.

exotix
02-16-2017, 07:59 PM
Good. The president is the boss and if he didn't want him to "bring his team with him" then Harward was right to not accept the position and the president was right for not giving him carte blanche.

I think Harward was a bad choice anyway. These guys who have military careers then retire and go to work for defense contractors are the problem. Part of the swamp that needs drained. The military industrial complex.http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1487293371/100_8536_wlk9uh.jpg

Bethere
02-16-2017, 08:04 PM
Vice Admiral Robert Harward turns down NSA position (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-harward-idUSKBN15V2Z7)

He wanted personnel changes that Trump did not agree too.

Would you have accepted it?

Peter1469
02-16-2017, 08:04 PM
Would you have accepted it?

I am not qualified for that position.

Dangermouse
02-16-2017, 08:12 PM
A pal says Haward turned down the shit sandwich he was offered.

resister
02-16-2017, 09:48 PM
A pal says Haward turned down the shit sandwich he was offered.Like the election with hildabeastyeal

Common Sense
02-16-2017, 09:51 PM
Smart. Doesn't want to join a sinking ship.

Cigar
02-16-2017, 10:21 PM
So much for being able to recruit the BEST People :laugh:

Time to check the bench for The Water Boy :laugh:

Bethere
02-16-2017, 10:49 PM
I am not qualified for that position.

Oh, we already knew that, but if you were?

Beevee
02-16-2017, 10:55 PM
I am not qualified for that position.

Then you are the ideal person to take it under the Trump employment plan.

birddog
02-16-2017, 11:22 PM
He needs to bring in John Bolton, a good, competent man.

del
02-16-2017, 11:29 PM
:rofl:

Peter1469
02-17-2017, 05:50 AM
Petraeus is next up, I hear.

Peter1469
02-17-2017, 05:51 AM
Oh, we already knew that, but if you were?

I would take the job for Gary Johnson.

Bo-4
02-17-2017, 09:01 AM
Smart man - he saw Trump's presser yesterday and said .. "MMMM - I don't THINK so!!"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/16/trumps-pick-to-replace-michael-flynn-as-national-security-adviser-turns-down-offer-people-familiar-with-decision-say-2/?utm_term=.dd3750c51e86

del
02-17-2017, 09:10 AM
Petraeus is next up, I hear.
he's not that stupid

signing up for the trump admin is like buying a ticket on the titanic after it hit the iceberg

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 09:16 AM
This may be a bigger deal than it seems like at first. He is the first person ti turn Trump down as far as I know. I think it's possible now that the ice has been broken others may feel safe in doing so.

Could have a big effect on who ends up where.

Cigar
02-17-2017, 09:19 AM
No Real Professional wants their good name attached to this idiot :laugh:

Bo-4
02-17-2017, 09:19 AM
This may be a bigger deal than it seems like at first. He is the first person ti turn Trump down as far as I know. I think it's possible now that the ice has been broken others may feel safe in doing so.

Could have a big effect on who ends up where.

Donald might be left with Jared Kushner :undecided:

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 09:33 AM
he's not that stupid

signing up for the trump admin is like buying a ticket on the titanic after it hit the iceberg
If you are still here I wonder what you will be saying in eight years.

del
02-17-2017, 09:34 AM
If you are still here I wonder what you will be saying in eight years.
i'll be saying thank god we threw the fuckwit out four years ago.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 09:34 AM
If you are still here I wonder what you will be saying in eight years.

Same as you. "thank god that trump guy only lasted a few months".

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 09:42 AM
i'll be saying thank god we threw the fuckwit out four years ago.
Recent history indicates presidents, for good or ill (see Obama) get eight years. My prediction is Trump will have eight years in office.

del
02-17-2017, 09:43 AM
Recent history indicates presidents, for good or ill (see Obama) get eight years. My prediction is Trump will have eight years in office.
that's nice

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 09:44 AM
Same as you. "thank god that trump guy only lasted a few months".
Recent history indicates presidents, for good or ill (see Obama) get eight years. My prediction is Trump will have eight years in office.

You guys should plan for eight, wonderful Trump years. If the Establishment Republican Congress follows Trump's lead you should plan for 50 years of Republican control of the House, Senate, and maybe the Presidency.

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 09:45 AM
Recent history indicates presidents, for good or ill (see Obama) get eight years. My prediction is Trump will have eight years in office.

that's nice
Yes. Yes, it is.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 09:50 AM
Recent history indicates presidents, for good or ill (see Obama) get eight years. My prediction is Trump will have eight years in office.
You guys should plan for eight, wonderful Trump years. If the Establishment Republican Congress follows Trump's lead you should plan for 50 years of Republican control of the House, Senate, and maybe the Presidency.

I doubt he will make it through one.

Subdermal
02-17-2017, 09:53 AM
he's not that stupid

signing up for the trump admin is like buying a ticket on the titanic after it hit the iceberg

Says the guy on the political team that was on the Titanic, sunk on November 8th. Dismissed.

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 09:53 AM
I doubt he will make it through one.
You should plan for eight, wonderful Trump years.

del
02-17-2017, 09:54 AM
Says the guy on the political team that was on the Titanic, sunk on November 8th. Dismissed.
you sure told me, derpie

:rofl:

it'd be even better if i had supported hillary, though.

Subdermal
02-17-2017, 09:55 AM
This may be a bigger deal than it seems like at first. He is the first person ti turn Trump down as far as I know. I think it's possible now that the ice has been broken others may feel safe in doing so.

Could have a big effect on who ends up where.

Oh yeah. Biiig. Deal. :biglaugh:

What's obvious is that Harward's preliminary intent was to accept the job, or he would not have been offered it. He declined when he found he could not have his own people.

Ockham's Razor only when it suits you, it appears. Salivating piranhas with big teeth and no brains do not impress me; you're going to have to really shift hard to return to rational discourse instead of partisan rankling nonsense. You've already been marginalized.

Subdermal
02-17-2017, 09:57 AM
you sure told me, derpie

:rofl:

it'd be even better if i had supported hillary, though.

Team. Democrats. Dismissed.

Cigar
02-17-2017, 09:57 AM
Oh yeah. Biiig. Deal. :biglaugh:

What's obvious is that Harward's preliminary intent was to accept the job, or he would not have been offered it. He declined when he found he could not have his own people.

Ockham's Razor only when it suits you, it appears. Salivating piranhas with big teeth and no brains do not impress me; you're going to have to really shift hard to return to rational discourse instead of partisan rankling nonsense. You've already been marginalized.

:laugh: He didn't want to work with Cheeto's idiots

del
02-17-2017, 09:58 AM
Team. Democrats. Dismissed.
keep swinging

btw, the official fiction is that harwood declined because he wanted spend more time with his family.

get with the program, prole

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 10:00 AM
You should plan for eight, wonderful Trump years.

Even you will get tired of covering for him soon.

Subdermal
02-17-2017, 10:04 AM
keep swinging

btw, the official fiction is that harwood declined because he wanted spend more time with his family.

get with the program, prole
Better get your alternate login prepped, del. I hear you've just about run out of rope here.

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 10:04 AM
Even you will get tired of covering for him soon.
Yes. In eight wonderful years.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 10:08 AM
Oh yeah. Biiig. Deal. :biglaugh:

What's obvious is that Harward's preliminary intent was to accept the job, or he would not have been offered it. He declined when he found he could not have his own people.

Ockham's Razor only when it suits you, it appears. Salivating piranhas with big teeth and no brains do not impress me; you're going to have to really shift hard to return to rational discourse instead of partisan rankling nonsense. You've already been marginalized.

Read what I post, not what you think I posted. You guys a real good a reading what you want to hear instead of what I say.

Chris
02-17-2017, 10:10 AM
you sure told me, derpie

:rofl:

it'd be even better if i had supported hillary, though.

Don't name call.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 10:11 AM
Yes. In eight wonderful years.

less than 1/8th of that.

MisterVeritis
02-17-2017, 10:39 AM
Yes. In eight wonderful years.

less than 1/8th of that.
You may have the last word. I shall have the last laugh.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 10:48 AM
Yes. In eight wonderful years.

You may have the last word. I shall have the last laugh.

Enjoy it, may be the last one for a long time.............

birddog
02-17-2017, 11:22 AM
TDS is making the libtards more hilarious. :laugh: You libs lost fair and square, and you will lose again in 2020!

Cigar
02-17-2017, 11:23 AM
TDS is making the libtards more hilarious. :laugh: You libs lost fair and square, and you will lose again in 2020!

What's a Libtard? Is that something like a Re-Turd :laugh:

AZ Jim
02-17-2017, 11:35 AM
Petraeus is next up, I hear.Oh! Goodie! He can give more classified info to another mistress.

resister
02-17-2017, 11:43 AM
Read what I post, not what you think I posted. You guys a real good a reading what you want to hear instead of what I say.
When attacking peoples comprehension, proper spelling is helpful. ( Pro Tip )

Peter1469
02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
he's not that stupid

signing up for the trump admin is like buying a ticket on the titanic after it hit the iceberg

He also wants back in the game. He may not be able to resist.

del
02-17-2017, 03:57 PM
He also wants back in the game. He may not be able to resist.
if the conditions are the same as were extended to harwood, he'll walk.

Peter1469
02-17-2017, 03:58 PM
if the conditions are the same as were extended to harwood, he'll walk.

True.

Subdermal
02-17-2017, 04:03 PM
Read what I post, not what you think I posted. You guys a real good a reading what you want to hear instead of what I say.

My post doesn't misrepresent your position at all. Doubtless, that's why you responded vacuously.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 04:57 PM
When attacking peoples comprehension, proper spelling is helpful. ( Pro Tip )

Autocorrect on this new phone is smarter than me and keeps changing shit.

Crepitus
02-17-2017, 04:58 PM
When attacking peoples comprehension, proper spelling is helpful. ( Pro Tip )

Plus it's not really a comprehension thing it more like they extrapolate to a ridiculous degree.

Mini Me
02-17-2017, 05:18 PM
Vice Admiral Robert Harward turns down NSA position (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-harward-idUSKBN15V2Z7)

He wanted personnel changes that Trump did not agree too.
He works for Lockheed Martin, for cripes sake! Conflict of interests! A CEO no less!
This us not "draining the swamp"! Its putting more alligators in it!:huh:

valley ranch
02-17-2017, 05:23 PM
He worked for an American Corporation? Holy Moley!

Peter1469
02-17-2017, 11:23 PM
Looks like you are correct (https://www.newsmax.com/Politics/david-petraeus-trump-list-michael-flynn/2017/02/17/id/774317/). Petraeus wouldn't take the deal without bringing his own staff.
if the conditions are the same as were extended to harwood, he'll walk.

del
02-17-2017, 11:34 PM
Looks like you are correct (https://www.newsmax.com/Politics/david-petraeus-trump-list-michael-flynn/2017/02/17/id/774317/). Petraeus wouldn't take the deal without bringing his own staff.
i think it's more a question of having to deal with the myrmidons that bannon wants t impose, but the end result is the same.