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Common
02-18-2017, 10:37 PM
The Trump administration plans to direct immigration agents to greatly expand the categories of immigrants they target for deportation, according to drafts of two memos seen by Reuters and first reported by Mclatchy news

http://www.reuters.com/

Peter1469
02-19-2017, 08:38 AM
I would have to see the details.

The article says green card holders will be spared. The law and procedures with green cards is long settled. And green card holders can be deported for a wide range of issues. Even too many speeding tickets.

waltky
08-17-2018, 01:42 PM
What happens when migrant children are deported home...
:cool2:
What happens when migrant children are deported home (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-happens-when-migrant-children-are-deported-home)
15 Aug.`18 - Central American migrant children face intensified violence and poverty when they're deported back to their home countries, according to a new UNICEF report released today.


Migrant children fleeing violence and poverty in their home countries are even more vulnerable if they’re deported back once they arrive in the U.S. and Mexico, in part because they return to worse conditions than those that prompted them to leave in the first place, the U.N.’s agency for children said in a report released today. “I think a lot of people don’t understand how much worse it can actually be for people when they are pushed back” to their home countries, said Christopher Tidey, a communication specialist for the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) and a lead author on this latest report. “It’s not just as simple as going home,” he added.



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Migrant children from Honduras and Mexico play at the Senda de Vida migrant shelter in Reynosa, in Tamaulipas state, Mexico



The UNICEF report said the children decide to make the journey north to Mexico and the U.S. from northern Central America — specifically, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, where gangs have virtually taken over as the local authority. Their daily lives are marked by poverty and a lack of social services. These same conditions are intensified and new problems can develop once the U.S. and Mexico decides to deport them, UNICEF said in its report, which includes summaries of interviews it conducted with migrant families. That migrant children could face worsened conditions upon their forced return isn’t a new idea. But it’s one that could be neglected when it comes to coverage of the region or policy proposals in dealing with the crisis, Tidey told the PBS NewsHour. Here’s a closer look at the agency’s findings:


Who’s affected, and why do they leave?

Between January and June of this year, UNICEF said more than 96,000 migrants, including more than 24,000 women and children, returned to their home countries after being deported from Mexico and the U.S. And that number appears to be growing, aided in part by the increased cooperation between Mexico and the U.S. under the Southern Border Plan, launched in 2014 (https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/05/07/607700928/mexico-deploys-a-formidable-deportation-force-near-its-own-southern-border) to strengthen border security and apprehensions along Mexico’s border with Guatemala. The majority of migrant children are being pushed back to their home countries from Mexico, in part because of the Southern Border Plan, Tidey said.



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A Honduras deportee from the U.S., embraces a relative as he arrives with others, outside the Migrant Center San Pedro Sula, Honduras



Family reunification is another motivating factor for why migrant children leave their home countries. UNICEF cited a 2016 survey that found nearly 32 percent of migrant children who were deported back to their home country of Honduras said reunification with family who had already made the journey north was the main reason for fleeing their home. Of those who were returned to El Salvador, 28 percent said family reunification was their main motivating factor, according to a separate 2018 survey.


What conditions do migrant children face when they’re forced to return to their home countries? (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-happens-when-migrant-children-are-deported-home)

See also:


Why the government doesn’t always know what happens to unaccompanied migrant children
Aug 16, 2018 - A Department of Health and Human Services official told members of a senate subcommittee Thursday that his agency, charged with overseeing the care of immigrant children who arrive in the U.S. without parents or legal guardians, is not responsible for ensuring the children’s welfare once they are handed over to the custody of sponsors.


Senators on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs investigations subcommittee hearing blasted immigration officials, including U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps Commander Jonathan D. White, over what they described as a lack of progress on improving the “unaccompanied alien children” program that shelters unaccompanied migrant youth and places them with sponsors while they await their immigration court proceedings. More than 200,000 unaccompanied migrant children have entered the U.S. since 2012, according to a Senate staff report released Wednesday (https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-08-15 PSI STAFF REPORT - Oversight of the Care of UACs.pdf), often to escape violence and poverty in their home countries. The interagency “UAC” program they are placed into upon arrival is managed by the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services, and for years, it has been criticized for a lack of oversight that can makes migrant children more vulnerable to human trafficking and abuse.



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Occupants at Casa Padre, an immigrant shelter for unaccompanied minors, in Brownsville, Texas, are seen in this photo provided by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services



Investigations into the program began in 2015, when members of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations first learned about a case in which Health and Human Services failed to properly vet sponsors, putting eight Guatemalan children into the custody of human traffickers who forced them to work 12-hour shifts at an egg farm in Ohio. “We have a serious problem on our hands: these children are at risk of trafficking and abuse,” Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, said at Thursday’s hearing. “When these children do not appear for their immigration proceedings they lose their chance to argue for immigration relief, and many remain in this country illegally,” he added.


The hearing and the report highlighted many of the program’s shortcomings (https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-08-15 PSI STAFF REPORT - Oversight of the Care of UACs.pdf), emphasizing that despite a number of recommendations offered by the subcommittee over three years, little progress had been made to improve the program and ensure the children’s welfare. Here’s a look at four problems with the program, according to members of the subcommittee:


It isn’t clear who is legally responsible for the well-being of children once they leave the shelters. (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/why-the-government-doesnt-always-know-what-happens-to-unaccompanied-migrant-children)

MisterVeritis
08-17-2018, 01:44 PM
What happens when migrant children are deported home...
:cool2:
What happens when migrant children are deported home (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-happens-when-migrant-children-are-deported-home)
15 Aug.`18 - Central American migrant children face intensified violence and poverty when they're deported back to their home countries, according to a new UNICEF report released today.


Their plight is not my probleem. It is their problem.

Peter1469
08-17-2018, 03:42 PM
How is this our problem?


What happens when migrant children are deported home...
:cool2:
What happens when migrant children are deported home (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-happens-when-migrant-children-are-deported-home)
15 Aug.`18 - Central American migrant children face intensified violence and poverty when they're deported back to their home countries, according to a new UNICEF report released today.


See also:


Why the government doesn’t always know what happens to unaccompanied migrant children
Aug 16, 2018 - A Department of Health and Human Services official told members of a senate subcommittee Thursday that his agency, charged with overseeing the care of immigrant children who arrive in the U.S. without parents or legal guardians, is not responsible for ensuring the children’s welfare once they are handed over to the custody of sponsors.

ripmeister
08-17-2018, 03:46 PM
Oh the humanity.

barb012
08-17-2018, 03:48 PM
Good, they did not do it legally so I do not feel they should be given special consideration.

Peter1469
08-17-2018, 05:02 PM
Oh the humanity.
How is it our problem?

Maybe you could adopt some of the kids and sign a financial affidavit agreeing to take care of them so long as they remain in the US. I had to do that for the person that I brought here.

jimmyz
08-17-2018, 07:03 PM
What happens when migrant children are deported home...
:cool2:
What happens when migrant children are deported home (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-happens-when-migrant-children-are-deported-home)
15 Aug.`18 - Central American migrant children face intensified violence and poverty when they're deported back to their home countries, according to a new UNICEF report released today.


See also:


Why the government doesn’t always know what happens to unaccompanied migrant children
Aug 16, 2018 - A Department of Health and Human Services official told members of a senate subcommittee Thursday that his agency, charged with overseeing the care of immigrant children who arrive in the U.S. without parents or legal guardians, is not responsible for ensuring the children’s welfare once they are handed over to the custody of sponsors.


Look at the size of those land manatees in the second picture. Now they can keep their diabetes in Honduras and off of our US healthcare pork barrel.

EdmundBurke
08-17-2018, 07:35 PM
Good news. I'm an immigrant who came to the US legally and I expect everyone else to abide by the same rules.

Common
08-17-2018, 07:41 PM
Good news. I'm an immigrant who came to the US legally and I expect everyone else to abide by the same rules.
Unfortunately only certain immgrants have to come here legally, the rest can just run over the border to a sanctuary city

There is a couple from belgium that came here legally, they are not yet citizens they have been trying for 6 yrs. It cost them a good amount to come here and stay here legally they have to renew every 5 yrs and costs them over 5,000 they told me. They want to be citizens, I asked why did they leave Belgium, they said the govt takes 75% of everything you make

Crepitus
08-17-2018, 07:46 PM
This thread clearly displays the much vaunted republican generosity and charity.

Peter1469
08-17-2018, 07:48 PM
This thread clearly displays the much vaunted republican generosity and charity.

You mean personal charity as opposed to government imposed "charity?"

Captdon
08-17-2018, 07:51 PM
Oh the humanity.

Adopt one. Then, you have credibility. We can't take everyone in. How about this: they should fight for their freedom.

EdmundBurke
08-17-2018, 07:55 PM
Unfortunately only certain immgrants have to come here legally, the rest can just run over the border to a sanctuary city

There is a couple from belgium that came here legally, they are not yet citizens they have been trying for 6 yrs. It cost them a good amount to come here and stay here legally they have to renew every 5 yrs and costs them over 5,000 they told me. They want to be citizens, I asked why did they leave Belgium, they said the govt takes 75% of everything you make
Not just Belgium, the entire EUSSR has gone to the dogs.

It is worth noting Europe has never had that original Anglo-Saxon, Lockean, Brukean idea of freedom - life, liberty, property. Ever since the French Revolution things haven't been properly defined and managed. Switzerland and the UK are doing their best to keep some sanity, as for the rest, you couldn't pay me enough to live there.

So happy to be able to enjoy the benefits of American culture and political traditions.

Captdon
08-17-2018, 08:00 PM
How is it our problem?

Maybe you could adopt some of the kids and sign a financial affidavit agreeing to take care of them so long as they remain in the US. I had to do that for the person that I brought here.

I had to find housing and a job for the Vietnamese family I sponsored in 1976. I had to do it before they could come here. I only had to sign a one year agreement though. They were boat people. The man was an Air force pilot.

Peter1469
08-17-2018, 08:02 PM
I had to find housing and a job for the Vietnamese family I sponsored in 1976. I had to do it before they could come here. I only had to sign a one year agreement though. They were boat people. The man was an Air force pilot.

My agreement is life long with exceptions such as her remarrying.

Peter1469
08-17-2018, 08:03 PM
I had to find housing and a job for the Vietnamese family I sponsored in 1976. I had to do it before they could come here. I only had to sign a one year agreement though. They were boat people. The man was an Air force pilot.

You a 'Nam vet?