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del
02-20-2017, 01:36 PM
Eric Trump’s Virginia winery is seeking permission for the second time in three months to hire foreign workers (https://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarrison/trump-winery-seeks-even-more-foreign-workers?utm_term=.vfGnqoG6x#.wk9wKvOZl), BuzzFeed News reports. The petition for foreign labor comes despite President Donald Trump’s campaign promise to put Americans back to work (http://www.npr.org/2016/07/19/486646140/gop-convention-day-2-devoted-to-make-america-work-again-theme).
According to a petition to the Department of Labor (https://lcr-pjr.doleta.gov/index.cfm?event=ehLCJRExternal.dspJobOrderView&frm=PJR&task=view_job_order&view=external&lcjr_id=109194) that was posted online on Thursday, the Trump Winery seeks to hire 23 workers for the following positions: “Farmworkers and Laborers, Crop, Nursery, and Greenhouse.”
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Trump Vineyard Estates, LLC is looking to hire the workers under the federal H-2 visa program at a rate of $11.27 per hour. The H-2 visa program provides temporary work visas, allowing US employers to hire foreign laborers. This most recent petition is the second petition filed by the Trump Winery (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/trump-winery-begs-labor-department-to-hire-foreign-workers-over-americans/) since Dec. 2, 2016, which sought to hire six foreign workers.
According to the petition, the job description notes workers would have to work in weather with temperatures as low as 10 degrees while “on their feet in bent positions for long periods of time (https://lcr-pjr.doleta.gov/index.cfm?event=ehLCJRExternal.dspCert&doc_id=1&visa_class_id=8&id=109194).”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trump-winery-begs-labor-dept-to-hire-more-foreign-workers-over-americans-for-second-time-in-3-months/

let the rationalizations begin

stjames1_53
02-20-2017, 01:43 PM
so?
You just want to give it to them.....instead

Bo-4
02-20-2017, 01:56 PM
"My Administration will follow two simple rules: Buy American, and hire American. Remember years ago, we used to proudly display 'Made in the USA'...

We don't see it. I don't see it anymore. We ought to start doing that. Any of the manufacturers that were doing a lot of talking to a lot of companies that were thinking about leaving, and I tell ya, I don't think they're going to be leaving so fast anymore...

The American worker built this country and now it's time for American workers to have a government for the first time in decades answers to them."

OH WELL ^

del
02-20-2017, 01:56 PM
so?
You just want to give it to them.....instead

give what to whom?

one

stjames1_53
02-20-2017, 02:01 PM
give what to whom?

one

you for starters

del
02-20-2017, 02:03 PM
you for starters
you're making no sense.

i'm stunned.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:06 PM
H2 visa <> illegal, derp

Hospitals use programs like this all the time.

del
02-20-2017, 02:15 PM
H2 visa <> illegal, derp

Hospitals use programs like this all the time.

"Buy American, hire American."- donald trump

two

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:18 PM
"Buy American, hire American."- donald trump

two

O'bama voters would rather collect welfare than make $11/hour.

del
02-20-2017, 02:18 PM
O'bama voters would rather collect welfare than make $11/hour.


"Buy American, hire American."- donald trump
three

Bo-4
02-20-2017, 02:19 PM
you're making no sense.

i'm stunned.

People who thrive on #AlternativeFacts rarely make sense

Peter1469
02-20-2017, 02:27 PM
I went there many times prior to Trump buying the winery. It was excellent.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trump-winery-begs-labor-dept-to-hire-more-foreign-workers-over-americans-for-second-time-in-3-months/

let the rationalizations begin

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:27 PM
"Buy American, hire American."- donald trump
three

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLdloTXNC1U

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:28 PM
Let me know once you figure out that Americans generally won't work those jobs.

del
02-20-2017, 02:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLdloTXNC1U

"buy american, hire american"- donald trump

four

Private Pickle
02-20-2017, 02:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLdloTXNC1U
That was awesome. Gonna check these guys out.

del
02-20-2017, 02:31 PM
Let me know once you figure out that Americans generally won't work those jobs.

"But we believe in two simple rules. Buy American and hire American. We believe it."- donald trump

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:31 PM
"But we believe in two simple rules. Buy American and hire American. We believe it."- donald trump

Two

patrickt
02-20-2017, 02:33 PM
Before Donald Trump won the Republican nomination and the election we knew he had hired illegal aliens. We knew he was having products manufactured in China. Apparently people didn't care.

Before Barack Obama won the Democrat nomination and the election we knew he had attended a racist church for twenty years and called the preacher who shouted, "God damn America" a mentor. We knew he didn't know how many states we had and when asked him opinion on abortion he said that was above his pay grade.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

del
02-20-2017, 02:34 PM
they just won't listen to any criticism of their messiah or his brood.

del
02-20-2017, 02:35 PM
Before Donald Trump won the Republican nomination and the election we knew he had hired illegal aliens. We knew he was having products manufactured in China. Apparently people didn't care.

Before Barack Obama won the Democrat nomination and the election we knew he had attended a racist church for twenty years and called the preacher who shouted, "God damn America" a mentor. We knew he didn't know how many states we had and when asked him opinion on abortion he said that was above his pay grade.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

no.

five

stjames1_53
02-20-2017, 02:38 PM
I would urge all conservatives to stay out of del's threads. they are only bait threads. <see his past 4 responses>
one

Safety
02-20-2017, 02:46 PM
they just won't listen to any criticism of their messiah or his brood.

But it is funny watching those try to derail or take the thread off-topic.

World class.

Five 1/2.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:49 PM
they just won't listen to any criticism of their messiah or his brood.

Three

del
02-20-2017, 02:50 PM
someone almost had an original thought!

Safety
02-20-2017, 02:53 PM
someone almost had an original thought!

You should patent your stuff before releasing it on the open market. You'll learn.

Five, three quarters.

Beevee
02-20-2017, 02:53 PM
I would urge all conservatives to stay out of del's threads. they are only bait threads. <see his past 4 responses>
one

Oops! You don't like the stench from Trump's gigantic farts?
Liberals already realise that.

Safety
02-20-2017, 02:54 PM
i would urge all conservatives to stay out of del's threads. They are only bait threads. <see his past 4 responses>
one

l.a.w.l.z.i.n.g

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 02:56 PM
Before Donald Trump won the Republican nomination and the election we knew he had hired illegal aliens. We knew he was having products manufactured in China. Apparently people didn't care.

Before Barack Obama won the Democrat nomination and the election we knew he had attended a racist church for twenty years and called the preacher who shouted, "God damn America" a mentor. We knew he didn't know how many states we had and when asked him opinion on abortion he said that was above his pay grade.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

That is the point that is going to be continuously, purposely not gotten here.

In fainess the labor and market needs to be competitive. If Americans won't work those jobs, there is no market fo them domestically.

Now for denial #5

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 03:01 PM
And, for the record, the way Safety shamelessly kisses dels ass is pathetic along witb his deevolution into basically a heckler and ankle biter.

He used to be a solid member here, not anymore.

del is del

del
02-20-2017, 04:04 PM
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kuusi

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 04:35 PM
https://www.brainyquote.com/photos/e/eleanorroosevelt385439.jpg

kuusi

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patrickt
02-20-2017, 07:07 PM
they just won't listen to any criticism of their messiah or his brood.
Well, now he's out of the White House.

Safety
02-20-2017, 09:35 PM
And, for the record, the way Safety shamelessly kisses dels ass is pathetic along witb his deevolution into basically a heckler and ankle biter.

He used to be a solid member here, not anymore.

del is del

Your record is broken, thanks for the unsolicited personal inventory, and I'm glad the consultation was free.

I will add...take a look at your contribution in this thread, then reflect as to why I don't give a damn about your comments about having a worthwhile discussion.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 09:38 PM
Your record is broken, thanks for the unsolicited personal inventory, and I'm glad the consultation was free.

I will add...take a look at your contribution in this thread, then reflect as to why I don't give a damn about your comments about having a worthwhile discussion.

When's the last time you started a thread?

Make sure the tank bottom stays clean, ok?

Bethere
02-20-2017, 09:46 PM
When's the last time you started a thread?

Make sure the tank bottom stays clean, ok?

When was the last time YOU started a thread?

del
02-20-2017, 09:46 PM
:rofl:

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 09:47 PM
When was the last time YOU started a thread?

Yesterday, started like 3 of them.

Thanks for asking though.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 09:48 PM
All three (or at least two of them) took off too with activity.

As did one I started the day before or before that.

Maybe if more people like you focused on promoting discussion here instead of slinging shit, the forum would be healthier.

Bethere
02-20-2017, 09:50 PM
All three (or at least two of them) took off too with activity.

As did one I started the day before or before that.

Maybe if more people like you focused on promoting discussion here instead of slinging $#@!, the forum would be healthier.

Interesting enough you started a couple recently, but then you have to go back months to find one.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950900
Lol.

Meanwhile, regarde mon dossier:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950902

My threads are typically measured in thousands of hits, not dozens or hundreds like yours. That's what I call promoting discussion. A few have 3000 hits. Many have 2000. One has 17,000.

I am pretty close to being a model poster. You are welcome.

Safety
02-20-2017, 09:50 PM
Well, now he's out of the White House.

Where is he, Mar-a-lago? Did he and Melania take separate vessels to get there? Did the Air Force have to scramble jets to enforce the no-fly zone there?

Hmmm, I wonder why no con has yet asked how much this is costing the taxpayers....

Safety
02-20-2017, 09:52 PM
All three (or at least two of them) took off too with activity.

As did one I started the day before or before that.

Maybe if more people like you focused on promoting discussion here instead of slinging shit, the forum would be healthier.

Slinging shit....is that like insulting posters and trying to publicly humiliate them?

:biglaugh:

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 09:59 PM
Interesting enough you started a couple recently, but then you have to go back months to find one.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950900
Lol.

Meanwhile, regarde mon dossier:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950902

My threads are typically measured in thousands of hits, not dozens or hundreds like yours. That's what I call promoting discussion. A few have 3000 hits. Many have 2000. One has 17,000.

I am pretty close to being a model poster. You are welcome.

You picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950909

Started one today actually. And, the search feature here sucks, it doesn't list all started threads for some reason, I'm guessing because how the forum is configured. I started several from NPR over the last couple of days.

I'm not going to dig those up either because your opinion really doesn't matter to me.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 10:00 PM
Slinging shit....is that like insulting posters and trying to publicly humiliate them?

:biglaugh:

You tell me, you've reduced yourself to being basically an ankle biter and del's pet chia head.

Safety
02-20-2017, 10:03 PM
You tell me, you've reduced yourself to being basically an ankle biter and del's pet chia head.

I took you and Common's advice about "when in Rome". You must have missed all the times you, resister, and others take turns circle jerking each other. But like everything else, rose colored glasses are all the rave now.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 10:05 PM
I took you and Common's advice about "when in Rome". You must have missed all the times you, resister, and others take turns circle jerking each other. But like everything else, rose colored glasses are all the rave now.

You're doing a great job at it too, I'm not the only one who's noticed.

So go find someone else to bicker with, I've been working my way out of this rut lately. Drag someone else down.

Safety
02-20-2017, 10:10 PM
You're doing a great job at it too, I'm not the only one who's noticed.

So go find someone else to bicker with, I've been working my way out of this rut lately. Drag someone else down.

Um...you f'ing started with me, Matco. You don't get to pour gasoline, light a fire, then act like it was an act of god.

Crepitus
02-20-2017, 10:14 PM
Before Donald Trump won the Republican nomination and the election we knew he had hired illegal aliens. We knew he was having products manufactured in China. Apparently people didn't care.

Before Barack Obama won the Democrat nomination and the election we knew he had attended a racist church for twenty years and called the preacher who shouted, "God damn America" a mentor. We knew he didn't know how many states we had and when asked him opinion on abortion he said that was above his pay grade.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Attended a racist church? I thought he was a Muslim?

Bethere
02-20-2017, 10:16 PM
Interesting enough you started a couple recently, but then you have to go back months to find one.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950900
Lol.

Meanwhile, regarde mon dossier:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950902

My threads are typically measured in thousands of hits, not dozens or hundreds like yours. That's what I call promoting discussion. A few have 3000 hits. Many have 2000. One has 17,000.

I am pretty close to being a model poster. You are welcome.


You picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950909

Started one today actually. And, the search feature here sucks, it doesn't list all started threads for some reason, I'm guessing because how the forum is configured. I started several from NPR over the last couple of days.

I'm not going to dig those up either because your opinion really doesn't matter to me.

I was looking through my threads. I have a 7000 hitter, and a couple of 5000 hit threads, too.

In the last two years your record is 723 hits.

If you seek my secret feel free to pm me.

Crepitus
02-20-2017, 10:17 PM
Well, now he's out of the White House.

You tried that earlier, it's not working here either. Back to the drawing board.

Captain Obvious
02-20-2017, 10:18 PM
I was looking through my threads. I have a 7000 hitter, and a couple of 5000 hit threads, too.

Should be a huge boost to your resume.

Ravens Fan
02-20-2017, 10:18 PM
You picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/search.php?searchid=2950909

Started one today actually. And, the search feature here sucks, it doesn't list all started threads for some reason, I'm guessing because how the forum is configured. I started several from NPR over the last couple of days.

I'm not going to dig those up either because your opinion really doesn't matter to me.

@Captain Obvious Please do not accuse other members of being under the influence of drugs (or of recently stopping).

Ravens Fan
02-20-2017, 10:20 PM
General Warning to all: Discuss the topic and not each other.

Subdermal
02-20-2017, 10:22 PM
"But we believe in two simple rules. Buy American and hire American. We believe it."- donald trump

Did you determine if Eric Trump attempted that very thing?

del
02-20-2017, 10:27 PM
Did you determine if Eric Trump attempted that very thing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SNAluOj6U

Peter1469
02-21-2017, 05:33 AM
Attended a racist church? I thought he was a Muslim?

The racist church was his cover. :smiley:

Crepitus
02-21-2017, 07:11 AM
The racist church was his cover. :smiley:

Oooooh,


OK then.

patrickt
02-21-2017, 08:55 AM
Oooooh,
OK then.

Crepitus, attending a racist church for twenty years does not indicate any particular religious belief. Barack Obama cannot consider any being superior to himself so he's unlikely to be Christian or Muslim.

The point is, we elect people knowing full well they hate America or hire foreign workers and then act surprised and offended.

Crepitus
02-21-2017, 08:57 AM
Crepitus, attending a racist church for twenty years does not indicate any particular religious belief. Barack Obama cannot consider any being superior to himself so he's unlikely to be Christian or Muslim.

The point is, we elect people knowing full well they hate America or hire foreign workers and then act surprised and offended.

Lol, maybe you do that, I certainly don't.

Crepitus
02-21-2017, 08:58 AM
@Captain Obvious Please do not accuse other members of being under the influence of drugs (or of recently stopping).

That is one of the funniest warnings I have seen.