Dems fear divisions will persist after DNC chair election

[Ransom]

ATLANTA — Democrats in Georgia to elect the next chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) are grappling with lingering divisions from the presidential primaries that they fear will persist no matter who becomes the party’s next leader

A little discussed reality here while we're casting spells on the President, is the current struggle and division in the Democrat Party. The Primaries as we remember were contentious to say the least, they're Convention a complete joke. Comedians asking Bernie chanters to get over it, one of the Simon Garfunkel duo showed up torched Bridge over Troubled Waters, what a surreal moment. Today, a new DNC Chair is being 'elected', the Dems are choosing their direction...and there is deep division.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (http://thehill.com/people/bernie-sanders) and many of his allies are backing Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), a progressive firebrand and favorite of the left. Former Vice President Joe Biden (http://thehill.com/people/joe-biden)and other key figures from the Obama administration back former Labor Secretary Tom Perez, who supported Hillary Clinton (http://thehill.com/people/hillary-clinton) in the primaries.

Perez versus Ellison


Democrats have done their best to quash the notion that the DNC chair race is a proxy war between these competing wings of the party.

But those divisions spilled into the open in the final hours before the Saturday morning vote, particularly among Ellison supporters, who think party officials are burying their heads in the sand when they claim there is no intraparty split.

I think this intraparty split is under-reported. These two are vastly different candidates with vastly different styles. Bernie-crats and Obama-Clintons” factions divided and I do believe there is an old saying about divided versus united.


The dynamics have DNC members worried that no matter who wins, one wing of the party will feel alienated at a time when Democrats need a rebuilding effort in the wake of the devastating 2016 election cycle

A devastating 2016 election cycle...and now divided amongst themselves. A divided flock......and we Republican wolves watching...and waiting. Sharpening fangs. Divide and conquer the political plan. Divide happening as we speak for Democrats.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/321094-dems-fear-divisions-will-persist-after-dnc-chair-election

[MMC]

We should play on their divisions and keep them rolling along. The Demos are at their lowest levels since the Civil War. Nows the time to take them out and destroy their party once and for all. Make life difficult for them. Fuck them over, any and every chance we get.


Let some New Leftist party come along and take the Demos place. They just need to make sure there are no illiberals running anything.

[Safety]

I guess the first question one would have is, why do either of you care what the DNC does or doesn't do?

[Peter1469]

Do not get so absorbed in what the Dems are doing that you forget that the GOP is also corrupt. A pox on both their houses.

[MMC]

I guess the first question one would have is, why do either of you care what the DNC does or doesn't do?

Sun Tzu.....Know thy enemy well.

[MMC]

Do not get so absorbed in what the Dems are doing that you forget that the GOP is also corrupt. A pox on both their houses.

We can cut that down by sending the Neo Cons back to their home. Just sayin.

[Peter1469]

We can cut that down by sending the Neo Cons back to their home. Just sayin.

That and the religious right needs to focus at the state level.

I doubt the GOP will get right. I will continue with third parties.

[MMC]

That and the religious right needs to focus at the state level.

I doubt the GOP will get right. I will continue with third parties.

They must have started......we control 66 out of 99 State legislatures and 34 Governorships. Get rid of the Demo party and its all good.

[Crepitus]

They must have started......we control 66 out of 99 State legislatures and 34 Governorships. Get rid of the Demo party and its all good.

One party rule is bad no matter which party it is.

[Crepitus]

I guess the first question one would have is, why do either of you care what the DNC does or doesn't do?

I know, right?

Whatever would we do without all the conservatives to tell us what we need to do?

[MMC]

One party rule is bad no matter which party it is.

I'm not against another leftist party taking the Demos place. They just need to make sure the illiberals aren't running anything.

[midcan5]

The right wing is a homogeneous group of followers, fraidy cats, Trump worshipers, and children in need of a leader, a savior to help them as they aren't able to help themselves, so the liberal left progressives would be different. Remember this, if everyone were conservatives we still be living in caves. There is a picture below of past conservatives.


https://crownheights.info/assets/media/featured/20110421-hilter-youth.jpg


"President Eisenhower describes his administration's political philosophy as 'dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive, dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive moderation,' then as 'moderate progressivism,' and then as 'positive progressivism.'" William Manchester, quote from 'The Glory and the Dream'


"But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the "gur-reat pur-rinciple" that "if one man would enslave another, no third man should object," fantastically called "Popular Sovereignty;" but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live." Not one of all your various plans can show a precedent or an advocate in the century within which our Government originated. Consider, then, whether your claim of conservatism for yourselves, and your charge or destructiveness against us, are based on the most clear and stable foundations." Abraham Lincoln http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/cooper.htm

[Peter1469]

The right wing is a homogeneous group of followers, fraidy cats, Trump worshipers, and children in need of a leader, a savior to help them as they aren't able to help themselves, so the liberal left progressives would be different. Remember this, if everyone were conservatives we still be living in caves. There is a picture below of past conservatives.




https://crownheights.info/assets/media/featured/20110421-hilter-youth.jpg




100% complete nonsense.

[Ransom]

One party rule is bad no matter which party it is.
Wrong. It's clearly bad if Democrats have one party rule. Republican rule is good. Much preferred.

It's what built this nation.....Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan, Trump

[Ransom]

They picked Tom Perez.


“The party needs it, we are fractured,” said John Graham, a DNC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) member from New Jersey. “We are really a broken party right now.”
Yes you are John. A broken Party indeed.....divided you fall, only united can you stand.


Others said Democrats blew it.

Hold on.....seems some of the Lefties.....ain't happy.....ain't getting on board.....ain't uniting.


“This incredibly disappointing result is another missed opportunity for a Democratic Party desperately trying to regain relevance and proves, once again, how out of touch party insiders are with the grassroots movement currently in the streets, on the phone, and at town halls nationwide,” said Jim Dean, chair of Democracy for America.

Jim Dean? Is he related to Jimmy Dean? Or James Dean?


Progressive groups have been frustrated with the direction of the party and they suffered another setback Saturday after DNC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) members voted to table a resolution that would have revived a ban on corporate donations and on corporate lobbyists serving as at-large members.
That frustration has boiled over into calls for Mr. Sanders to follow the lead of millions of American by breaking away from the Democratic Party and to launch a new third-party.

"Progressive groups" against establishment Democrats reared its' head during Democrat Primaries as much as it did in the Republican's. Calls for a third party to be created must scare some of you Dems. Trump can shave off Union blue collar votes, a good % of women, a solid % of minorities.....while the Democrat Party fractures and obliterates itself.

I've been trying to tell y'all. You need to snip off the chute strings currently dragging on your engines. The far left....you need to jettison. Isolate it, take your political correct pu44yhat wearing snowflakes......and heat up the room. Let these tulips dictate your platform......we're gonna feast on you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/25/tom-perez-wins-hard-fought-race-dnc-race-become-fi/

[patrickt]

The Democrats picket Perez. Racist bastards. Islamophobes. They should be ashamed.

[Crepitus]

Wrong. It's clearly bad if Democrats have one party rule. Republican rule is good. Much preferred.

It's what built this nation.....Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan, Trump

Not.

[Bethere]

Sun Tzu.....Know thy enemy well.

"Say your prayers, Wrabbit!"--Elmer Fudd.

[Tahuyaman]

I guess the first question one would have is, why do either of you care what the DNC does or doesn't do?


I like to to see all hate groups in a state of chaos.

[decedent]

We should play on their divisions and keep them rolling along. The Demos are at their lowest levels since the Civil War. Nows the time to take them out and destroy their party once and for all. Make life difficult for them. $#@! them over, any and every chance we get.


Let some New Leftist party come along and take the Demos place. They just need to make sure there are no illiberals running anything.

Again, the GOP platform for the past 30 years is to attack all things Democrat.

Instead of trying to divide Democrats, why don't you look in your own backyard, like when Darryl Issa said an independent prosecutor should investigate Trump, or the growing concern withing the GOP that Trump's language is increasing hate crimes, or the concern that many GOP voters have over losing their ACA coverage.

[Peter1469]

The ACA is entering its death spiral. The only way to fix it is to perpetually inject tax dollars into it to keep it alive. That is unacceptable.

[donttread]

We should play on their divisions and keep them rolling along. The Demos are at their lowest levels since the Civil War. Nows the time to take them out and destroy their party once and for all. Make life difficult for them. Fuck them over, any and every chance we get.


Let some New Leftist party come along and take the Demos place. They just need to make sure there are no illiberals running anything.

There's some real potential there. Remember the real, old fashioned dems . They'd disagree reasonably most of the time, used facts and didn't even know what a micro-agression was? They really wanted to reduce poverty instead of depending upon it for re-election?
Some 3rd party needs to court those folks while the LP strengthens and let the harder to buy, much harder to filibuster coalition begin. The Green party blew a golden opportunity and do not appear to be who the old dems need right now.