When I think or see the term Democrat, I....

[Safety]

Part two of the simple test. Once again, I'm not referring to progressives, moderates, socialists, marxists, et. al, just a simple question on what the first thing that pops in your mind when you see a "D" behind someone's name or the term "democratic" on an ad.

[Private Pickle]

You didn't add the 3rd option here...

[patrickt]

There are other adjectives that come to mind, some you mentioned and some you didn't, but since the early sixties, Democrats have been liberal and racing to be more of some of those words you said we shouldn't use.

[Safety]

You didn't add the 3rd option here...

I should not have in the other one. It opened the door for too much thinking into the purpose of the poll.

[Chris]

You didn't add the 3rd option here...

I vote 3rd option, neither. My dad's a life-long Blue Dog Democrat.

[Safety]

I vote 3rd option, neither. My dad's a life-long Blue Dog Democrat.

It has been said that college institutions are run by liberal professors, that does not mean that there are no conservative professors. When you think "pro-choice" do you think conservative? Does that mean there are no conservatives that are "pro-choice"?

Basically what I am saying is, sure there are outliers, but that isn't what this is about.

[Chris]

It has been said that college institutions are run by liberal professors, that does not mean that there are no conservative professors. When you think "pro-choice" do you think conservative? Does that mean there are no conservatives that are "pro-choice"?

Basically what I am saying is, sure there are outliers, but that isn't what this is about.

But none of that implies dem or rep.

This is about overgeneralization.

[Safety]

But none of that implies dem or rep.

This is about overgeneralization.

It's called an analogy, Chris. It isn't about overgeneralization, it's about being honest with one's self.

Speaking of which, I requested an action to be taken.

[Chris]

It's called an analogy, Chris. It isn't about overgeneralization, it's about being honest with one's self.

Speaking of which, I requested an action to be taken.

Analogy fail.

[Safety]

Analogy fail.

I'm sure it did, solely because you asserted so.

[Casper]

Part two of the simple test. Once again, I'm not referring to progressives, moderates, socialists, marxists, et. al, just a simple question on what the first thing that pops in your mind when you see a "D" behind someone's name or the term "democratic" on an ad.
Now ask for them to define a Liberal and Conservative and see how that goes.

[Safety]

Now ask for them to define a Liberal and Conservative and see how that goes.

No thank you, if they won't admit to a simple test, I'm not opening that can of worms.

[texan]

Part two of the simple test. Once again, I'm not referring to progressives, moderates, socialists, marxists, et. al, just a simple question on what the first thing that pops in your mind when you see a "D" behind someone's name or the term "democratic" on an ad.
Seems limited. Not sure why you needed to confirm this point. Liberal is associated with the party. I will say it's more appropriate that many mainstream liberals feel the nuts have consumed their party. That is one thing that happened last cycle. Being a liberal is fine. Being an politically correct hack is a whole nutha thang!

I am physically a somewhat conservative or shall I say traditional but I have many liberal social views.

[Casper]

Seems limited. Not sure why you needed to confirm this point. Liberal is associated with the party. I will say it's more appropriate that many mainstream liberals feel the nuts have consumed their party. That is one thing that happened last cycle. Being a liberal is fine. Being an politically correct hack is a whole nutha thang!

I am physically a somewhat conservative or shall I say traditional but I have many liberal social views.
Yeup, you are a Texan.

[resister]

I should not have in the other one. It opened the door for too much thinking into the purpose of the poll.
Poll is a loaded ?

[Safety]

Seems limited. Not sure why you needed to confirm this point. Liberal is associated with the party. I will say it's more appropriate that many mainstream liberals feel the nuts have consumed their party. That is one thing that happened last cycle. Being a liberal is fine. Being an politically correct hack is a whole nutha thang!

I am physically a somewhat conservative or shall I say traditional but I have many liberal social views.

It was pretty much for humor, after seeing the objections to the GOP thread.

[Dr. Who]

Part two of the simple test. Once again, I'm not referring to progressives, moderates, socialists, marxists, et. al, just a simple question on what the first thing that pops in your mind when you see a "D" behind someone's name or the term "democratic" on an ad.
I voted liberal, however Democratic and democratic don't mean the same things. "Democrats" are generally more liberal, at least socially, than "Republicans". The term democratic however relates to a system of government although when capitalized refers to the party. There is a tendency to conflate the two as there is with the terms republican and Republican. Ironically, a Democrat could be a republican and Republican could be a democrat.

[Green Arrow]

Now ask for them to define a Liberal and Conservative and see how that goes.

That would be a pointless exercise. Words are meaningless now. Orwell's Newspeak has arrived.

[resister]

That would be a pointless exercise. Words are meaningless now. Orwell's Newspeak has arrived.
Non answers are good answers!

[Green Arrow]

Non answers are good answers!

I voted.

[resister]

I voted.
Commenting on the arrival of Newspeak!

[decedent]

I should not have in the other one. It opened the door for too much thinking into the purpose of the poll.

The suspense is killing me. Ok... not killing me, but I have a slight headache.

[Private Pickle]

I should not have in the other one. It opened the door for too much thinking into the purpose of the poll.

Kinda looks like your crafting your OPs to get a desired result by limiting discussion to the parameters you're comfortable with.

[resister]

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Kinda looks like your crafting your OPs to get a desired result by limiting discussion to the parameters you're comfortable with.
Don't it just, though!

[stjames1_53]

I should not have in the other one. It opened the door for too much thinking into the purpose of the poll.

did you really just say that?

[FindersKeepers]

Part two of the simple test. Once again, I'm not referring to progressives, moderates, socialists, marxists, et. al, just a simple question on what the first thing that pops in your mind when you see a "D" behind someone's name or the term "democratic" on an ad.

When I see the "D," today, I typically think "aggressive."

[Safety]

Kinda looks like your crafting your OPs to get a desired result by limiting discussion to the parameters you're comfortable with.

I said as much in the OP. I was looking for a specific answer, and I should not have put the third option in there.

[Safety]

did you really just say that?

No, I typed it.

[Chris]

Kinda looks like your crafting your OPs to get a desired result by limiting discussion to the parameters you're comfortable with.


I said as much in the OP. I was looking for a specific answer, and I should not have put the third option in there.


As most are aware. Instead you got more cognitive dissonance.

[Safety]

As most are aware. Instead you got more cognitive dissonance.

It's par for the course with some.

[del]

lol

[Chris]

It's par for the course with some.

For you, it is.

[Safety]

For you, it is.

Getting personal, Chris? Take a breather.

[FindersKeepers]

So, Safety, I'm waiting for your follow-up analysis that explains the madness behind your methodology on these past couple of threads.

[Starman]

I think liar, hypocrite, hater, racist.

http://DemocratsBigLies.blogspot.com

[Chris]

It's par for the course with some.


For you, it is.


Getting personal, Chris? Take a breather.

Which would imply you were since I just fed your guff back to you.

[Chris]

So, Safety, I'm waiting for your follow-up analysis that explains the madness behind your methodology on these past couple of threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHnzYEHAow

[Starman]

“I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men.” - Leonardo da Vinci

Animals murder animals routinely, everywhere you look. So it's okay for animals to murder animals, often in a cruel and savage way, but not for humans to raise them and kill them quickly to eat?

Liberals are fond of claiming that things like, oh, homosexuality is just fine "because it doesn't bother anybody else."
Abortion is fine because "it's a woman's body." And "If you don't like abortions, don't get one."
But when it comes to imposing liberals' view on everybody else, THAT'S a different story. More laws, more controls, more fascism, because LIBERALS always know best. Always.

[FindersKeepers]

Animals murder animals routinely, everywhere you look. So it's okay for animals to murder animals, often in a cruel and savage way, but not for humans to raise them and kill them quickly to eat?

Liberals are fond of claiming that things like, oh, homosexuality is just fine "because it doesn't bother anybody else."
Abortion is fine because "it's a woman's body." And "If you don't like abortions, don't get one."
But when it comes to imposing liberals' view on everybody else, THAT'S a different story. More laws, more controls, more fascism, because LIBERALS always know best. Always.

That's actually my sig line, but if Safety doesn't mind I'll respond. First I'm not a liberal. I voted for Trump, although not with a lot of enthusiasm. Second, I believe that it's not wrong to eat meat if there's nothing else to eat. Third, I think animals deserve a life free from injury if possible. Fourth, I know animals eat other animals -- they do it to survive -- we're supposed to be a bit smarter, right? Fifth, I'm healthier than you and I will live longer. Sixth, I think a lot of animals are better than people. Seventh, what the hell does abortion have to do with anything? I oppose abortion after the third trimester for all but the most desperate reasons.

[Safety]

So, Safety, I'm waiting for your follow-up analysis that explains the madness behind your methodology on these past couple of threads.

It was based off of this exchange...


GOP ⇏ Right.

Obamacare is being replaced. They're stealing his thunder.


Your opinion. Why don't you host a poll and see how many here think of the right when the GOP is mentioned.

Edit...nevermind, I already did it. http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/79799-In-terms-of-US-politics-when-you-think-of-the-GOP-do-you

The only variable in the poll was those on the right that did not like the GOP, therefore they voted neither. I should not have listed it as an option, because I knew there would be some that wants to argue ideology and not reality.

[Safety]

Which would imply you were since I just fed your guff back to you.

The only thing you've done, is argue for the sake of arguing. Please go "guff" up another thread.

[Chris]

The only thing you've done, is argue for the sake of arguing. Please go "guff" up another thread.

I've argued against you desire to underthink the question and achieve certainty through overgeneralization.

[Chris]

It was based off of this exchange...





The only variable in the poll was those on the right that did not like the GOP, therefore they voted neither. I should not have listed it as an option, because I knew there would be some that wants to argue ideology and not reality.


An ideology is a description or explanation of reality.

Next time you want to force everyone into an overly simplistic, myopic view, just say so.

[Safety]

An ideology is a description or explanation of reality.

Next time you want to force everyone into an overly simplistic, myopic view, just say so.

Read the OP. Your answer is in plain sight. If you still don't see it, try looking without the rose-colored glasses.

If you don't like my thread, please feel free to excuse yourself from it. I gave you the opportunity to start a poll, but you balked.

[Safety]

I've argued against you desire to underthink the question and achieve certainty through overgeneralization.

For the sake of hearing yourself speak.

[Chris]

Read the OP. Your answer is in plain sight. If you still don't see it, try looking without the rose-colored glasses.

If you don't like my thread, please feel free to excuse yourself from it. I gave you the opportunity to start a poll, but you balked.


For the sake of hearing yourself speak.


Does it, your projections, not grow old even for you?

https://s15.postimg.org/n4a44amiz/giphy_1.gif

[Captain Obvious]

Thread has already degraded, moving on...

[Chris]

Thread has already degraded, moving on...

Never made the grade.

[del]

Which would imply you were since I just fed your guff back to you.

when did you change your name to some?

can i get some sauce on the gander over here please?

[Safety]

Never made the grade.

I give you permission to move on. Please do.

[Safety]

when did you change your name to some?

can i get some sauce on the gander over here please?

It's just fricking unbelievable.

[Chris]

It's just fricking unbelievable.

What, that you didn't get the responses you wanted to hear? That you mock those who dare to disagree with you? That's "just fricking unbelievable."

[Safety]

What, that you didn't get the responses you wanted to hear? That you mock those who dare to disagree with you? That's "just fricking unbelievable."

You're right, I didn't get the responses I wanted to hear, it's being drowned out by your incessant and obnoxious ranting. I thought you needed to move on? Shoo.

[Chris]

You're right, I didn't get the responses I wanted to hear, it's being drowned out by your incessant and obnoxious ranting. I thought you needed to move on? Shoo.

Ranting. To point out your irrationality is ranting. I realize you don't like it, but ranting? Nice ad hom but hardly rational.

[Safety]

Ranting. To point out your irrationality is ranting. I realize you don't like it, but ranting? Nice ad hom but hardly rational.

You can place your accusation of ad hom in a location where the sun doesn't shine, because that is all you have done in my thread.

[Chris]

You can place your accusation of ad hom in a location where the sun doesn't shine, because that is all you have done in my thread.

Pointing out an admitted desire to overgeneralize is ad hom? :dang:

[del]

It's just fricking unbelievable.

no, it's quite believable.

four legs good...