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MMC
03-08-2017, 12:26 PM
[Progressives are threatening primary challenges for Democratic lawmakers who don’t commit to full obstruction of President Trump’s agenda. Democrats already face a daunting 2018 landscape, with 10 senators up for reelection in states that Trump won. However, the threat of primaries foes going up against vulnerable Democrats such as West Virginia’s Joe Manchin further complicates the party’s chances of coming out with a net victory.
But the party’s left flank is convinced that a full embrace of progressivism is the only way to return to power, and it is ready to fight for the party’s soul.
“We fundamentally reject the assumption that Democrats can only win in red states by pandering to racists and big bankers,” said Claire Sandberg, a co-founder of the progressive political action committee We Will Replace You.
“The way we beat Trumpism and take back Congress and statehouses is offering a coherent vision of our own to put people back to work. … We don’t need to completely compromise our own values and principles.”
We Will Replace You is the most visible effort gearing up to back primary challenges from the left.]



It seems Manchin is one of the most visible targets, especially since he voted for some of President Trump’s most controversial cabinet nominees. He broke with his party to vote for Steve Mnuchin (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/steven-mnuchin-senate-confirmation-vote-david-shulkin/) for Treasury secretary, Rex Tillerson (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/315942-manchin-to-support-tillerson-for-state-department-post) for secretary of state, and Jeff Sessions for attorney general; the latter being anathema to liberals. Right now, opposition to Neil Gorsuch, Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court, seems to be the litmus test to this civil war that’s about to erupt......snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/08/the-left-is-about-to-eat-their-own-n2295707



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MMC
03-08-2017, 12:49 PM
This is great.....the Repubs will be winning even more Senate seats.



Angry Progressives: Damn Right We'll Primary Democrats Who Don't Oppose Neil Gorsuch......


Saber-rattling, or a genuine threat? Left-wing groups are warning Democratic Senators (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/322629-liberals-threaten-to-primary-over-gorsuch) that if they don't fight against President Trump's Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, they may find themselves out of a job. It's unclear if these organizations have the wherewithal or resources to follow through on that challenge, but Chuck Schumer's caucus is no doubt acutely aware that their base is demanding nothing short of full-blown "resistance" (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/us/democrats-dnc-chairman-trump-keith-ellison-tom-perez.html?_r=0) at every turn -- and some of the loudest elements of said base are making sure that these lawmakers never forget it (via Jazz Shaw (http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/07/liberal-groups-a-vote-for-gorsuch-is-a-vote-to-get-yourself-primaried/)):


[Left-leaning groups are sending a stern message to Democrats who consider backing President Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court: Do it and risk a primary challenge in 2018. Liberal activists say Senate Democrats are not doing enough to focus the public’s attention on Neil Gorsuch, a conservative judge who has attracted praise from both sides of the aisle. "A Democrat that votes for cloture on Gorsuch is a Democrat voting to overturn Roe,” said Heidi Hess, senior campaign manager at Credo Action, a liberal advocacy group with an email network of 5 million people, referring to the landmark Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade, which established a woman’s right to an abortion. “This is absolutely a fight they should be fighting and that we will hold them accountable if they don’t fight it,” she said... “We’re hearing an enormous amount of anxiety among the grassroots — and this isn’t just our membership — about the lack of conversation they’re hearing,” said Ilyse Hogue, the president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, a leading abortion-rights advocacy group...“This is a do-or-die issue,” she said. “It is of supreme concern to people around the country.” Asked if Democrats who vote for Gorsuch might face primary challenges, Hogue replied, “We would keep all options on the table.” Eleven liberal groups, led by NARAL Pro-Choice America, sent a letter to Senate Democrats Monday criticizing them for not putting up more of a fight against Gorsuch.]


The Hill piece notes that conservatives are "winning the message war (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/322629-liberals-threaten-to-primary-over-gorsuch)," as liberals have failed to convince the public that Trump's pick is an extremist:


[There’s a growing realization that the best way to yank Democrats out of possible complacency over the Supreme Court debate is to drop the P-bomb: primary challenge. Activists are warming up to the threat leveled by liberal filmmaker Michael Moore. He tweeted on Feb. 1 that if Democrats don’t block Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, “we will find a true progressive and primary u in the next election.” Neil Sroka, communications director for Democracy for America, a liberal advocacy group with 1 million members nationwide, says any Democrat who votes for Gorsuch will be out of step with the party’s base. “If you’re voting against the interests of the vast majority of Americans by voting for someone like Gorsuch for this Supreme Court position, that should be one of many things that should open you up to primary challengers,” he said.]


These rumblings must be music to the National Republican Senatorial Committees' ears. The Democrats' left-wing base is not representative of the overall American electorate, especially in the 30 states carried by Donald Trump last fall. Senate Democrats from ten of those states (this list (https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/796875516724871173?lang=en), plus Michigan) are up for re-election next year; five of whom represent states Trump won by 19 percentage points or more. If incumbent Democrats are forced to spend energy and money fending off insurgencies from their ideological left, they'll be in an even weaker position in a general election setting.....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/03/08/liberal-interest-groups-well-primary-democrats-who-vote-for-gorsuch-n2295463

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 01:01 PM
The progressives are taking a page out of the conservative playbook. If the Democrats and Republicans won't give other parties a fair shot, we'll take over the Democrats and Republicans.

GOnzalez
03-08-2017, 01:07 PM
Well written, as the Dems continue to rudderlessly sail away from middle-America they will further enhance their future chances by selecting a Muslim congressman to Chair the DNC. It is becoming nearly impossible to contain my joy.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 01:12 PM
Well written, as the Dems continue to rudderlessly sail away from middle-America they will further enhance their future chances by selecting a Muslim congressman to Chair the DNC. It is becoming nearly impossible to contain my joy.

The DNC Chair vote was cast last month and Tom Perez won.

del
03-08-2017, 01:15 PM
The DNC Chair vote was cast last month and Tom Perez won.

never let the facts get in the way of a good narrative

MMC
03-08-2017, 01:44 PM
The DNC Chair vote was cast last month and Tom Perez won.
Yeah and.....that doesn't mean the next DNC election that the Unhinged wont push for a Muslim to chair their party.

Common
03-08-2017, 01:59 PM
The progressive left will take over the democrat party, if you think they are loud, obnoxious whiney raging buffoons, just wait it will get worse

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 03:24 PM
The progressives are taking a page out of the conservative playbook. If the Democrats and Republicans won't give other parties a fair shot, we'll take over the Democrats and Republicans.


Could you explain how that is taking a page out of the conservative playbook?

Peter1469
03-08-2017, 03:40 PM
The DNC Chair vote was cast last month and Tom Perez won.

Perez is that DoJ political appointee who lied under oath in one of the Black Panther cases. (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/03/18/obama-appoints-radical-who-lied-under-oath-about-new-black-panther-party-case-to-head-labor-department-n1537241)


Here’s the key quote from Judge Walton’s ruling:
"The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ’s dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez’s testimony that political leadership was not involved in that decision. Surely the public has an interest in documents that cast doubt on the accuracy of government officials’ representations regarding the possible politicization of agency decision-making."


In short, this ruling is further confirmation that political appointees at Justice did interfere in the Black Panther case. Assistant AG Perez’s testimony was false. And the American people have a right to documents related to the scandal. That’s pretty much a clear-cut victory.



By way of review, this all started on Election Day 2008, when members of the Black Panther Party stood guard at a polling station in Philadelphia, PA brandishing weapons and threatening voters. A video of the incident was widely distributed on the Internet. The Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the Black Panthers, but ultimately overruled members of its own staff and dismissed the majority of the charges.

decedent
03-08-2017, 03:50 PM
[Progressives are threatening primary challenges for Democratic lawmakers who don’t commit to full obstruction of President Trump’s agenda.


Good for the Democrats. It worked out fairly well for the Tea Party. I bet it will work out well for Dems.

MMC
03-08-2017, 04:07 PM
Good for the Democrats. It worked out fairly well for the Tea Party. I bet it will work out well for Dems.

I doubt it.....you show me a Democrat and I will show you a screw up waiting to happen.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 04:34 PM
Yeah and.....that doesn't mean the next DNC election that the Unhinged wont push for a Muslim to chair their party.

What's wrong with a Muslim chairing the party?

MMC
03-08-2017, 04:42 PM
What's wrong with a Muslim chairing the party?

Nothing for those doubling down on identity politics. Other than losing.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 05:07 PM
Could you explain how that is taking a page out of the conservative playbook?

Were you unaware of the Tea Party movement?

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 05:07 PM
Perez is that DoJ political appointee who lied under oath in one of the Black Panther cases. (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/03/18/obama-appoints-radical-who-lied-under-oath-about-new-black-panther-party-case-to-head-labor-department-n1537241)
I detest Tom Perez.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 05:09 PM
Nothing for those doubling down on identity politics. Other than losing.

How is it identity politics to not give a shit what religion a candidate is? You're the one drawing attention to his faith, it would seem you're the one playing identity politics.

jigglepete
03-08-2017, 05:14 PM
Not the vegan ones :)

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 05:26 PM
Were you unaware of the Tea Party movement?

I'm aware of it. Now, how is that relative?

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 05:31 PM
I'm aware of it. Now, how is that relative?

If this has to be explained you obviously aren't too aware of it.

The Tea Party held rallies and protests. They flooded town halls with palpable anger at their representatives. Then they primaried establishment Republicans that wouldn't listen.

That's exactly what progressives are doing now.

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 05:47 PM
If this has to be explained you obviously aren't too aware of it.

The Tea Party held rallies and protests. They flooded town halls with palpable anger at their representatives. Then they primaried establishment Republicans that wouldn't listen.

That's exactly what progressives are doing now.
Tea party people were not encouraging violent protests. They weren't going to townhalls and screaming profanities.

del
03-08-2017, 05:50 PM
Tea party people were not encouraging violent protests. They weren't going to townhalls and screaming profanities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl5Jo0GnX-k

:biglaugh:

such a hack

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 05:53 PM
Hard leftists tried to discredit the tea party movement.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 05:54 PM
Tea party people were not encouraging violent protests. They weren't going to townhalls and screaming profanities.

Please point out where I mentioned violence in my post as a point of comparison..

MMC
03-08-2017, 06:00 PM
How is it identity politics to not give a shit what religion a candidate is? You're the one drawing attention to his faith, it would seem you're the one playing identity politics.
Oh and like the Demos didn't do that with selecting Hispanics. Or were you trying to say that the Demos don't play identity politics?

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 06:06 PM
Please point out where I mentioned violence in my post as a point of comparison..

Thats what the left is doing now and you are comparing that to the tea party movement.

The tea party origins were completely organic and unaffiliated with a political party. No organization was guiding them.

The tea party was a movement from the ground up. The current liberal response is a Democratic party top down thing.

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 06:09 PM
The progressive left will take over the democrat party, if you think they are loud, obnoxious whiney raging buffoons, just wait it will get worse

They've already taken over. Thats why they are in such dire straits now.

Subdermal
03-08-2017, 07:25 PM
The progressives are taking a page out of the conservative playbook. If the Democrats and Republicans won't give other parties a fair shot, we'll take over the Democrats and Republicans.

Nice thought; teeny problem.

There aren't nearly enough Progressives to support such a strategy. They've 'taken over' Dem leadership, and have decimated the party.

They remain clueless to what has so marginalized them.

Subdermal
03-08-2017, 07:27 PM
What's wrong with a Muslim chairing the party?

Oh. Nothing. We're in favor of that particular Muslim. Carry on.

:laughing1:

Subdermal
03-08-2017, 07:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl5Jo0GnX-k

:biglaugh:

such a hack

I agree. Only a total hack would offer that video as evidence of "Tea Party violence".

That was truly pathetic.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Oh and like the Demos didn't do that with selecting Hispanics. Or were you trying to say that the Demos don't play identity politics?

I did not say that. I just find it odd that you're so laser-focused on Ellison's faith rather than his political views, while simultaneously complaining about Democrats playing identity politics.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 08:12 PM
Nice thought; teeny problem.

There aren't nearly enough Progressives to support such a strategy. They've 'taken over' Dem leadership, and have decimated the party.

They remain clueless to what has so marginalized them.

Progressives have not taken over the Democratic Party. Far from it.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Thats what the left is doing now and you are comparing that to the tea party movement.

The tea party origins were completely organic and unaffiliated with a political party. No organization was guiding them.

The tea party was a movement from the ground up. The current liberal response is a Democratic party top down thing.

You don't know what you're talking about. The DNC is trying to use it for their own ends but progressives are categorically opposed to the establishment DNC.

Green Arrow
03-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Oh. Nothing. We're in favor of that particular Muslim. Carry on.

:laughing1:

So you can't provide a serious answer?

Tahuyaman
03-08-2017, 08:28 PM
You don't know what you're talking about. The DNC is trying to use it for their own ends but progressives are categorically opposed to the establishment DNC.


The current screaming is led and organized by the leaders of the DNC.

decedent
03-08-2017, 09:00 PM
I doubt it.....you show me a Democrat and I will show you a screw up waiting to happen.


Here's one.

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56c640526e97c625048b822a-480/donald-trump.jpg

MMC
03-09-2017, 06:53 AM
I did not say that. I just find it odd that you're so laser-focused on Ellison's faith rather than his political views, while simultaneously complaining about Democrats playing identity politics.

Really.....who said Ellison was the only Muslim the Demos got? Moreover his political views are far left.

MMC
03-09-2017, 06:54 AM
Here's one.

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56c640526e97c625048b822a-480/donald-trump.jpg

He is no longer a Democrat.....finally came over from the dark side.

Casper
03-09-2017, 09:38 AM
[Progressives are threatening primary challenges for Democratic lawmakers who don’t commit to full obstruction of President Trump’s agenda. Democrats already face a daunting 2018 landscape, with 10 senators up for reelection in states that Trump won. However, the threat of primaries foes going up against vulnerable Democrats such as West Virginia’s Joe Manchin further complicates the party’s chances of coming out with a net victory.
But the party’s left flank is convinced that a full embrace of progressivism is the only way to return to power, and it is ready to fight for the party’s soul.
“We fundamentally reject the assumption that Democrats can only win in red states by pandering to racists and big bankers,” said Claire Sandberg, a co-founder of the progressive political action committee We Will Replace You.
“The way we beat Trumpism and take back Congress and statehouses is offering a coherent vision of our own to put people back to work. … We don’t need to completely compromise our own values and principles.”
We Will Replace You is the most visible effort gearing up to back primary challenges from the left.]



It seems Manchin is one of the most visible targets, especially since he voted for some of President Trump’s most controversial cabinet nominees. He broke with his party to vote for Steve Mnuchin (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/steven-mnuchin-senate-confirmation-vote-david-shulkin/) for Treasury secretary, Rex Tillerson (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/315942-manchin-to-support-tillerson-for-state-department-post) for secretary of state, and Jeff Sessions for attorney general; the latter being anathema to liberals. Right now, opposition to Neil Gorsuch, Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court, seems to be the litmus test to this civil war that’s about to erupt......snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/08/the-left-is-about-to-eat-their-own-n2295707



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Funny how when the left does the same things that the right does, the right acts as if this is a new phenomenon. The right has been eating their own for years, were you a Tea Party member that was busy throwing other Republicans under the bus because they were not right leaning enough? Both Parties have their internal struggles, it because they are made up of People that share a common point of view on some issues but do not always agree on the methodology to support it.
As for the next elections, do not count your chickens before they hatch, there is a while to before then and as we see the Repubs can and do find ways of awaking the voting populace and angering their own supporters. The replacement of ACA with ACA Lite is not going over all that well with those that have realized that after 6 Years the Repubs could not come up with a better idea to replace it with. Massive spending Bills and more on the way are going to raise taxes on the already burdened middle-class and that is not something real conservatives are going to like. We already know we are going to pay the Bill for the Wall, fooled again folks. And only God knows if we are going to end up in Trade Wars and Armed Conflicts but the signs 2 months in are not looking good and neither is what this Nation needs. Lots of good things are going to have to happen if the GOP is to win more seats, my guess is they will be more concerned about holding on to theirs.

Casper
03-09-2017, 09:40 AM
He is no longer a Democrat.....finally came over from the dark side.
He IS the Dark Side.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 11:33 AM
Really.....who said Ellison was the only Muslim the Demos got? Moreover his political views are far left.

Changing the Muslim individual doesn't change the fact that you're hyper-focused on their identity and not their political views. That makes you an identity politics player.

MMC
03-09-2017, 12:44 PM
Funny how when the left does the same things that the right does, the right acts as if this is a new phenomenon. The right has been eating their own for years, were you a Tea Party member that was busy throwing other Republicans under the bus because they were not right leaning enough? Both Parties have their internal struggles, it because they are made up of People that share a common point of view on some issues but do not always agree on the methodology to support it.
As for the next elections, do not count your chickens before they hatch, there is a while to before then and as we see the Repubs can and do find ways of awaking the voting populace and angering their own supporters. The replacement of ACA with ACA Lite is not going over all that well with those that have realized that after 6 Years the Repubs could not come up with a better idea to replace it with. Massive spending Bills and more on the way are going to raise taxes on the already burdened middle-class and that is not something real conservatives are going to like. We already know we are going to pay the Bill for the Wall, fooled again folks. And only God knows if we are going to end up in Trade Wars and Armed Conflicts but the signs 2 months in are not looking good and neither is what this Nation needs. Lots of good things are going to have to happen if the GOP is to win more seats, my guess is they will be more concerned about holding on to theirs.

Whats funnier is now that it is happening to the Demos. The shit is finally being reported on. The good news is the Demos have learned, they wont be able to hide stuff like their in-fighting anymore.

No I wasn't a Tea Party member. Nor establishment.

Yes the Repubs have been known to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

Ah.....going for some more of that BO peep with the hope and change stuff. You shouldn't do to much of that as many learned, there is nothing good with hoping for a little change in your pockets.

Despite all that leftness concept about the ACA with the rest of the gooblety goke. Here is what you forgot......The Repubs have been running grassroots since 2010. The Demos have no bench. Nor much a ground game. Starts with State Houses and the States.


Then there is the fact that the Demos are no longer a National Party and that most of the Nation are tired of the way they govern. Tired of the way they divide the country. Tired of their identity politics and now their obstruction is showing them for having only one concern. That their Party comes before anything else.


You got 25 Senator Seats up in 2018. 10 in States where Trump won by 19 points or more. Plus you still have Nancy Pelosi leading house Democrats. Good luck!

MMC
03-09-2017, 12:53 PM
Changing the Muslim individual doesn't change the fact that you're hyper-focused on their identity and not their political views. That makes you an identity politics player.
That's your interpretation of it. No, unlike you I look at all aspects for the destruction of the Demo party. So you will need to look for another knit picking excuse to argue about.


As usual you show your nothing more than a Demo enabler and apologist. Go back to class and take some more notes. Then check in with Think Progress for more talking points.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 02:11 PM
That's your interpretation of it. No, unlike you I look at all aspects for the destruction of the Demo party. So you will need to look for another knit picking excuse to argue about.


As usual you show your nothing more than a Demo enabler and apologist. Go back to class and take some more notes. Then check in with Think Progress for more talking points.

I don't think I've ever willingly read Think Progress. Try again.

MMC
03-09-2017, 02:23 PM
I don't think I've ever willingly read Think Progress. Try again.

Then go talk to your sociologist in school. But when you do, ask them to explain real life experiences to you.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 03:54 PM
Then go talk to your sociologist in school. But when you do, ask them to explain real life experiences to you.

I don't have a sociologist, and I have real life experiences covered.

MMC
03-09-2017, 04:16 PM
I don't have a sociologist, and I have real life experiences covered.
Really.....seems you don't have that much. And know this.....all that book knowledge can't make up the difference.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 04:36 PM
Really.....seems you don't have that much. And know this.....all that book knowledge can't make up the difference.

You don't know anything about me, skipper, but do feel free to continue making a fool of yourself.

jigglepete
03-09-2017, 04:57 PM
Thats what the left is doing now and you are comparing that to the tea party movement.

The tea party origins were completely organic and unaffiliated with a political party. No organization was guiding them.

The tea party was a movement from the ground up. The current liberal response is a Democratic party top down thing.


I always thought the Tea Party folks were Libertarian, and didn't they march a lot with automatic weapons? Or am I thinking of something different?

MMC
03-09-2017, 04:59 PM
You don't know anything about me, skipper, but do feel free to continue making a fool of yourself.

Yeah yeah, let me know when you get to 35 and finally make it out of the sticks. :rollseyes:

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 05:03 PM
Yeah yeah, let me know when you get to 35 and finally make it out of the sticks. :rollseyes:

I have never lived in the sticks, but even if I did, why is that a bad thing? Why do you belittle rural America?

MMC
03-09-2017, 05:32 PM
I have never lived in the sticks, but even if I did, why is that a bad thing? Why do you belittle rural America?
I'm not belittling rural America.....I'm belittling you. Maybe you should learn the difference while you're in the big city. :laugh:

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 06:36 PM
I'm not belittling rural America.....I'm belittling you. Maybe you should learn the difference while you're in the big city. :laugh:

Well, you're doing a bad job of it. I don't think a city of 13.1k people qualifies as a big city.

Common
03-09-2017, 06:43 PM
The last time the progressive left tried to take over the dem party, they got devestated.
This is a different time, maybe a different outcome but it wont be a pretty war, the oldline dems wont go quietly

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 06:45 PM
The last time the progressive left tried to take over the dem party, they got devestated.
This is a different time, maybe a different outcome but it wont be a pretty war, the oldline dems wont go quietly

When was that?

Dr. Who
03-09-2017, 07:58 PM
Whats funnier is now that it is happening to the Demos. The shit is finally being reported on. The good news is the Demos have learned, they wont be able to hide stuff like their in-fighting anymore.

No I wasn't a Tea Party member. Nor establishment.

Yes the Repubs have been known to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

Ah.....going for some more of that BO peep with the hope and change stuff. You shouldn't do to much of that as many learned, there is nothing good with hoping for a little change in your pockets.

Despite all that leftness concept about the ACA with the rest of the gooblety goke. Here is what you forgot......The Repubs have been running grassroots since 2010. The Demos have no bench. Nor much a ground game. Starts with State Houses and the States.


Then there is the fact that the Demos are no longer a National Party and that most of the Nation are tired of the way they govern. Tired of the way they divide the country. Tired of their identity politics and now their obstruction is showing them for having only one concern. That their Party comes before anything else.


You got 25 Senator Seats up in 2018. 10 in States where Trump won by 19 points or more. Plus you still have Nancy Pelosi leading house Democrats. Good luck!
Interesting, because none of those cultivated "grass roots" could get elected dog catcher in a national election. It took a clump of crabgrass from the sidewalks of New York to prevent the Republicans from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. So much for that (park) bench.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 08:06 PM
Interesting, because none of those cultivated "grass roots" could get elected dog catcher in a national election. It took a clump of crabgrass from the sidewalks of New York to prevent the Republicans from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. So much for that (park) bench.

This is one of many reasons why we're friends :tongue:

Common
03-09-2017, 08:12 PM
When was that?

In 1994 the gop won both house and senate. Over the left wanting universal health care and other issues

Once prior to that in the 70s I cannot remember the Dem majority leader from california that lost his re election after many years. Tall guy Im trying to remember I believe it started with an F

decedent
03-09-2017, 08:25 PM
Tea party people were not encouraging violent protests. They weren't going to townhalls and screaming profanities.

How do you feel about Tea Partiers yelling "Hang the lying Kenyan traitor" outside of the White House gates?


They had some good causes, including a decreased debt/deficit and smaller government, but then the let the radical right take over and consume them. Now, after all the infighting, the Tea Party is irrelevant.

Green Arrow
03-09-2017, 09:54 PM
In 1994 the gop won both house and senate. Over the left wanting universal health care and other issues

Once prior to that in the 70s I cannot remember the Dem majority leader from california that lost his re election after many years. Tall guy Im trying to remember I believe it started with an F

1994 was hardly the age of the progressive. Clinton was as corporate whore as they come and might as well have been a Republican. Universal health care is more of an aberration from that period than a general rule.

MMC
03-10-2017, 07:40 AM
Well, you're doing a bad job of it. I don't think a city of 13.1k people qualifies as a big city.

Not at all.....let me know when you hit 35 and get some time under your belt. Until then take a few more hours to come up with something better than your asshole, uhm I mean your opinion. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/studying.gif

MMC
03-10-2017, 07:51 AM
Ha! Reasons To Vote For Democrats Book Filled With 266 Blank Pages .....


It’s a bestseller (https://www.amazon.com/Reasons-Vote-Democrats-Comprehensive-Guide/dp/1543024971/ref=zg_bs_books_20?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH37V1DXJNW2HGY49FYH). It’s doing well on Amazon. And it’s quite hilarious. Michael J. Knowles has a book called “Reasons To Vote For Democrats: A Comprehensive Guide,” and it’s completely blank. No, seriously--it’s 266 empty pages. Knowles, a Yale graduate, said that after observing the Democratic Party for 10 years on a variety of issues, it would be best to just leave the pages blank (via Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/09/reasons-to-vote-for-democrats-book-is-just-empty-pages.html)):


[“It took a very long time to research this book,” Knowles said Thursday. “I’ve been observing the Democratic Party for at least 10 years now and when I observed their record and reasons to vote for them – on reasons of economics or foreign policy or homeland security or civil rights and so on – I realized it was probably best to just leave all the pages blank.”]


It’s the No. 4 bestseller on Amazon right now.....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/09/ha-reasons-to-vote-for-democrats-book-filled-with-nothing-but-blank-pages-n2296583


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