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William
03-12-2017, 07:06 AM
Was the judge right to give him the minimum sentence for attempting to assassinate President Trump?
I think it showed the US Justice System in a very good light, cos he was obviously not well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/7821b5b9-4dda-4225-8bc0-e172f7d6ef70

Common
03-12-2017, 07:08 AM
No the judge was dead wrong, attempting to assasinate any Potus should never be taken lightly whether it liberal or conservative Potus. He should have gotten a far more stringent sentence

Being lenient is not being fair

FindersKeepers
03-12-2017, 07:39 AM
I think the sentence is fine. I think he needs to serve it and be sent home. I have to wonder if he actually was making an attempt on Trump's life or just flipping out.

I also think he needs to be treated for his mental illness and monitored until he can be trusted not to go off again.

DGUtley
03-12-2017, 07:40 AM
@William (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1351), thanks for posting this. I personally think the sentence is somewhat light but he's clearly ill. Our system treats the ill much different than the fully capacitied. Perhaps, like Mark David Chapman, prison wasn't the best alternative. Around here, we have what's called 'shock probation' where a judge will give a harsh sentence with the intent to 'shock' the inmate out after the statutorily permitted minimum. That might've broke this kid though; so, I find it difficult to question the judge here. Although I personally think it's weak, I wasn't there. Justice (it's not vengeance) must be tempered with mercy when and where appropriate. I feel for this kid to have this illness -- and his family. Thank God nobody got hurt. He'll do his minimum time and hopefully get the treatment he needs.

Peter1469
03-12-2017, 07:41 AM
He looks like he won't do well in jail.

The US media barely covered this incident.

Crepitus
03-12-2017, 10:50 AM
More of a psychotic episode than an assassination attempt.

They (secret service (or whoever he trusts for security these days)) should be on the lookout for a more coordinated attempt though.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 10:55 AM
Just put one behind his ear and be done with him. He will end up being released and will eventually try to hurt or kill someone else. Maybe next time, he will succeed.

William
03-12-2017, 10:58 AM
I was impressed by what the judge said to him "You are not an evil person ..." and I think Americans should be proud that they have judges like that - too many people outside the US only hear of the bad things in your society. My own impression of the USA has changed quite a lot since I joined this board. :smiley:

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 11:18 AM
Hey William - good to see ya and that was a very well-written story.

Yeah - minimum sentence and plenty of counseling.

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 11:21 AM
Just put one behind his ear and be done with him. He will end up being released and will eventually try to hurt or kill someone else. Maybe next time, he will succeed.

From the compassionate guy who pretty much believes all lib-ruls should be dealt with in such a manner.

You missed your calling in Berlin circa 1940

Cletus
03-12-2017, 03:35 PM
From the compassionate guy who pretty much believes all lib-ruls should be dealt with in such a manner.

Why don't you go ahead and post a single quote in which I suggested any such thing?

Please, go ahead and put it up here for all to see. Just one quote should be sufficient, but if you can find more, go ahead and post them too.

If you can't find them, maybe you should look up your ass, because I am pretty sure that is where you got the accusation you made.

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 04:00 PM
Why don't you go ahead and post a single quote in which I suggested any such thing?

Please, go ahead and put it up here for all to see. Just one quote should be sufficient, but if you can find more, go ahead and post them too.

If you can't find them, maybe you should look up your ass, because I am pretty sure that is where you got the accusation you made.

My MY -- Trumpkins are such ANGRY little fellows! ;-)

Okay fine, i shall retract as Subdermal is oft more guilty of this sort of nonsense.

Subdermal
03-12-2017, 04:04 PM
My MY -- Trumpkins are such ANGRY little fellows! ;-)

Okay fine, i shall retract as Subdermal is oft more guilty of this sort of nonsense.

Does anyone know why we should ever listen to this bullshit artist?

Cletus
03-12-2017, 04:10 PM
My MY -- Trumpkins are such ANGRY little fellows! ;-)

Okay fine, i shall retract as Subdermal is oft more guilty of this sort of nonsense.

So, you admit you lied.

Good.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 04:11 PM
Does anyone know why we should ever listen to this bullshit artist?

I see no reason for it.

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 04:24 PM
So, you admit you lied.

Good.

You intransigents will never EVER accept a retraction.

This probably puts me on your hit list. ;)

Ravens Fan
03-12-2017, 04:41 PM
Why don't you go ahead and post a single quote in which I suggested any such thing?

Please, go ahead and put it up here for all to see. Just one quote should be sufficient, but if you can find more, go ahead and post them too.

If you can't find them, maybe you should look up your ass, because I am pretty sure that is where you got the accusation you made.


My MY -- Trumpkins are such ANGRY little fellows! ;-)

Okay fine, i shall retract as Subdermal is oft more guilty of this sort of nonsense.


Does anyone know why we should ever listen to this bullshit artist?

@Cletus Bo-4 Subdermal Stop insulting each other and post to the topic.

OGIS
03-12-2017, 05:20 PM
Does anyone know why we should ever listen to this bull$#@! artist?


I see no reason for it.

Then why are you here?

OGIS
03-12-2017, 05:37 PM
Just put one behind his ear and be done with him. He will end up being released and will eventually try to hurt or kill someone else. Maybe next time, he will succeed.


From the compassionate guy who pretty much believes all lib-ruls should be dealt with in such a manner.

You missed your calling in Berlin circa 1940


Why don't you go ahead and post a single quote in which I suggested any such thing?

Please, go ahead and put it up here for all to see. Just one quote should be sufficient, but if you can find more, go ahead and post them too.

If you can't find them, maybe you should look up your ass, because I am pretty sure that is where you got the accusation you made.


So, you admit you lied.

Good.

A retraction is not the same as admitting that what was said was a lie. A retraction can be done for many reasons.

Also, I don't think that his impression of your possessing barbarian tendencies is necessarily due to any particular quotes of yours. I can't remember any specific quotes of yours that would qualify, either, but the problem that he (and the rest of us) face is much the same as that faced by Justice Potter Stewart regarding obscenity:


I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it,....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it


In other words, it's not what you say, but how you say it: your general tone and demeanor. You sound capable of cheerfully being a full-blown fascist totalitarian.

Sort of like a love-sonnet in Klingon always sounds like a blood-curdling declaration of eternal insane hatred and warfare.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 05:41 PM
Go ahead and make excuses for him. The fact remains that he made an assertion he cannot support.

resister
03-12-2017, 05:43 PM
a retraction is not the same as admitting that what was said was a lie. A retraction can be done for many reasons.

Also, i don't think that his impression of your possessing barbarian tendencies is necessarily due to any particular quotes of yours. I can't remember any specific quotes of yours that would qualify, either, but the problem that he (and the rest of us) face is much the same as that faced by justice potter stewart regarding obscenity:



In other words, it's not what you say, but how you say it: Your general tone and demeanor. You sound capable of cheerfully being a full-blown fascist totalitarian.

Sort of like a love-sonnet in klingon always sounds like a blood-curdling declaration of eternal insane hatred and warfare.
lol ;)

AeonPax
03-12-2017, 05:49 PM
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My opinion? The sentence is fine by me. I wish there were more judges like that.

DGUtley
03-12-2017, 06:52 PM
`My opinion? The sentence is fine by me. I wish there were more judges like that.
There are.

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 07:19 PM
Then why are you here?

WTF Knows?

Bo-4
03-12-2017, 07:21 PM
lol ;)

Lamest response in the HISTORY of this forum .. ^

Way to GO!!

OGIS
03-12-2017, 07:24 PM
WTF Knows?

Paid Trolls is one possibility. Russian agents is another. Lots of possibilities, many of them that would be insulting, so I won't mention them.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 07:32 PM
Paid Trolls is one possibility. Russian agents is another. Lots of possibilities, many of them that would be insulting, so I won't mention them.

Why do you care? It isn't like you are looking for someone with whom to engage in reasoned discourse. Why anyone else is here really is and should be of no concern to you. If you are looking for a kindred spirit, check the Troll section.

OGIS
03-12-2017, 07:40 PM
Why do you care? It isn't like you are looking for someone with whom to engage in reasoned discourse. Why anyone else is here really is and should be of no concern to you. If you are looking for a kindred spirit, check the Troll section.

See, this is what I mean about the tone. Why all the hostility and the insults? Your guy won. Can't you be magnanimous in victory?

Please note I have not insulted you. Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe that personal insults are against forum rules. And we do all want to obey the rules, right?

William
03-12-2017, 08:33 PM
I know this is not a tPF thread, but I would respectfully ask those posters who are doing nothing other than slinging mud at each other to contribute to the discussion, or leave the thread.

OGIS
03-12-2017, 08:36 PM
I know this is not a tPF thread, but I would respectfully ask those posters who are doing nothing other than slinging mud at each other to contribute to the discussion, or leave the thread.

Well said.

Refreshing to read your posts again....

Cletus
03-12-2017, 08:38 PM
See, this is what I mean about the tone. Why all the hostility and the insults? Your guy won. Can't you be magnanimous in victory?

Please note I have not insulted you. Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe that personal insults are against forum rules. And we do all want to obey the rules, right?

You suggested I might be a paid troll or even a Russian operative.

If you really can't remember what you posted just a short time ago, especially since it in print right in front of you, perhaps you should find another way to occupy your time.

William
03-12-2017, 08:41 PM
Well said.

Refreshing to read your posts again....

Thanks, I just felt with all the negative news about the US and President Trump we get, that people should know the good things about Americans.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 08:43 PM
I know this is not a tPF thread, but I would respectfully ask those posters who are doing nothing other than slinging mud at each other to contribute to the discussion, or leave the thread.

... never mind.

Cletus
03-12-2017, 08:48 PM
Thanks, I just felt with all the negative news about the US and President Trump we get, that people should know the good things about Americans.

There are more good things about Americans than you could ever list, even you started writing now and didn't stop until your 100th birthday.

The subject of this thread is an obviously broken person who made an attempt to assassinate the current President of the United States. This is the sort of guy that bleeding hearts will say is "just a troubled young man" and then, when he is released from the system and walks into a movie theater or other venue and kills 20 or 30 people will blame the Second Amendment instead of admitting they had an opportunity to make sure he never hurt anyone again and decided not to take it.

resister
03-12-2017, 09:00 PM
I think when he grabbed a cops gun, his ass should of been a backstop!

William
03-12-2017, 09:09 PM
There are more good things about Americans than you could ever list, even you started writing now and didn't stop until your 100th birthday.

Why can't you accept a national compliment without being big-headed about it? I know there are lots of good things about Americans, and I have said so on these pages many times, but someone reading this could be forgiven for thinking modesty is not one of those. :wink:


The subject of this thread is an obviously broken person who made an attempt to assassinate the current President of the United States. This is the sort of guy that bleeding hearts will say is "just a troubled young man" and then, when he is released from the system and walks into a movie theater or other venue and kills 20 or 30 people will blame the Second Amendment instead of admitting they had an opportunity to make sure he never hurt anyone again and decided not to take it.

Well, the judge thought he was 'just a troubled young man', and had the good sense to give him the minimum sentence which would allow him to go home and receive the treatment he obviously needs under the NHS. As there are neither guns nor knives legally in the hands of the public, nor the 2nd Amendment, in Great Britain (where he lives) the likelihood of his killing 20 or 30 people with his bare hands in a cinema is not high. I am sure the judge understood this.

OGIS
03-12-2017, 09:11 PM
See, this is what I mean about the tone. Why all the hostility and the insults? Your guy won. Can't you be magnanimous in victory?

Please note I have not insulted you. Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe that personal insults are against forum rules. And we do all want to obey the rules, right?


You suggested I might be a paid troll or even a Russian operative.
Mmmm.... not quite. Read my quote again; I included them as part of a list.
Paid Trolls is one possibility. Russian agents is another. Lots of possibilities, many of them that would be insulting, so I won't mention them. No insult was intended or delivered. I suggested those two (as being two of the more prestigious) but the list is long. Other possibilities would include (but certainly not be limited to):

- distinguished professor of political philosophy at some Bible Belt university who is on sabbatical and therefore has time to post as much as you do,

- a basement-bound adolescent boy,

- a retired and well-off hide bound conservative who has a passion for politics

- an institutionalized mental patient who is allowed access to a computer and the Internet,

- an undiagnosed (and therefore "in-the-wild") mental patient on welfare, therefore with time to post,

- someone who posts a lot from work, perhaps the business owner,

- an out-of-work loser with time to post....

It's a long list. And I would not dream of pigeon-holing you in any one of them. You seem quite capable of doing that on your own.


If you really can't remember what you posted just a short time ago, especially since it in print right in front of you, perhaps you should find another way to occupy your time.
Again with the negative vibes, Moriarty!

(kudos to anyone who without googling gets the reference.)

jimmyz
03-12-2017, 09:17 PM
A retraction is not the same as admitting that what was said was a lie. A retraction can be done for many reasons.

Also, I don't think that his impression of your possessing barbarian tendencies is necessarily due to any particular quotes of yours. I can't remember any specific quotes of yours that would qualify, either, but the problem that he (and the rest of us) face is much the same as that faced by Justice Potter Stewart regarding obscenity:



In other words, it's not what you say, but how you say it: your general tone and demeanor. You sound capable of cheerfully being a full-blown fascist totalitarian.

Sort of like a love-sonnet in Klingon always sounds like a blood-curdling declaration of eternal insane hatred and warfare.
You do realize that you are condemning a US armed services veteran and US citizen of merit right?

resister
03-12-2017, 09:17 PM
Why can't you accept a national compliment without being big-headed about it? I know there are lots of good things about Americans, and I have said so on these pages many times, but someone reading this could be forgiven for thinking modesty is not one of those. :wink:



Well, the judge thought he was 'just a troubled young man', and had the good sense to give him the minimum sentence which would allow him to go home and receive the treatment he obviously needs under the NHS. As there are neither guns nor knives legally in the hands of the public, nor the 2nd Amendment, in Great Britain (where he lives) the likelihood of his killing 20 or 30 people with his bare hands in a cinema is not high. I am sure the judge understood this.
Since you are so sure, let him live in your house.

William
03-12-2017, 09:17 PM
Again with the negative vibes, Moriarty!

(kudos to anyone who without googling gets the reference.)


Lol, who hasn't read Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 'Sherlock Holmes'? :grin:

Cletus
03-12-2017, 09:20 PM
Why can't you accept a national compliment without being big-headed about it? I know there are lots of good things about Americans, and I have said so on these pages many times, but someone reading this could be forgiven for thinking modesty is not one of those. :wink:

Your condescending attitude got old a long time ago.

Well, the judge thought he was 'just a troubled young man', and had the good sense to give him the minimum sentence which would allow him to go home and receive the treatment he obviously needs under the NHS. As there are neither guns nor knives legally in the hands of the public, nor the 2nd Amendment, in Great Britain (where he lives) the likelihood of his killing 20 or 30 people with his bare hands in a cinema is not high. I am sure the judge understood this.

Liberal judges are no smarter than any other Liberal.

William
03-12-2017, 09:22 PM
Since you are so sure, let him live in your house.

Lol, you know enough about me to know that I don't get to decide who lives in our house.

But yeah, I might be 4 years younger than him, but he looks pretty weedy - I'm not that small that I couldn't handle him. And it might be fun to have someone nearer my age at home. :wink:

jimmyz
03-12-2017, 09:25 PM
Lol, who hasn't read Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 'Sherlock Holmes'? :grin:

Not many US school children. They are fed titles like... My Two Mommies

Advance yes? No.

resister
03-12-2017, 09:27 PM
Lol, you know enough about me to know that I don't get to decide who lives in our house.

But yeah, I might be 4 years younger than him, but he looks pretty weedy - I'm not that small that I couldn't handle him. And it might be fun to have someone nearer my age at home. :wink:
I can send a few fruit pickers to room up with you!

William
03-12-2017, 09:40 PM
Not many US school children. They are fed titles like... My Two Mommies

Advance yes? No.

I never heard of 'My Two Mommies', but I didn't read The adventures of Sherlock Holmes in class. We have a room full of books at home, and I read lots of them. Charles Dickens, and John Le Carre, are two of my faves, but I have also read The Merchant of Venice, and we did Richard III in class. Not all my mates do, but I like reading. It is better in some ways than movies, cos your imagination makes the pictures in your mind - you are not stuck with Hollywood's idea of Captain Hook or Ebenezer Scrooge. :smiley:

OGIS
03-12-2017, 09:48 PM
Lol, who hasn't read Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 'Sherlock Holmes'? :grin:

Nope. BZZZZZZZT!

Understandable that you don't get it. It was from an American movie that was a hit well before you were born.

OGIS
03-12-2017, 09:55 PM
You do realize that you are condemning a US armed services veteran and US citizen of merit right?

No, I don't. What are you talking about?

William
03-12-2017, 09:58 PM
Nope. BZZZZZZZT!

Understandable that you don't get it. It was from an American movie that was a hit well before you were born.

OK, I give up - you win! I never heard of any other Moriarty - so tell us who it is. :smiley:

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 10:03 PM
There are more good things about Americans than you could ever list, even you started writing now and didn't stop until your 100th birthday.

The subject of this thread is an obviously broken person who made an attempt to assassinate the current President of the United States. This is the sort of guy that bleeding hearts will say is "just a troubled young man" and then, when he is released from the system and walks into a movie theater or other venue and kills 20 or 30 people will blame the Second Amendment instead of admitting they had an opportunity to make sure he never hurt anyone again and decided not to take it.

Might that not suggest that the criminal justice system is not the place to deal with such an individual? Perhaps being committed to a psychiatric institution would make more sense, since the criminal justice system is about retribution not psychiatric care?

OGIS
03-12-2017, 10:05 PM
OK, I give up - you win! I never heard of any other Moriarty - so tell us who it is. :smiley:

Hmmm.... looks like no one else is stepping up to the plate....

Hints: war movie, comedy

resister
03-12-2017, 10:12 PM
Might that not suggest that the criminal justice system is not the place to deal with such an individual? Perhaps being committed to a psychiatric institution would make more sense, since the criminal justice system is about retribution not psychiatric care?Perhaps we can just " hug " him rehabilitated?

Cletus
03-12-2017, 10:14 PM
Might that not suggest that the criminal justice system is not the place to deal with such an individual? Perhaps being committed to a psychiatric institution would make more sense, since the criminal justice system is about retribution not psychiatric care?

He committed a crime. That means the criminal justice system must be involved. However, I agree with you that some situations, including this one, call for a cooperative effort between the law enforcement and medical communities.

We also need to acknowledge though, that some things and some people are just broken too badly to ever be fixed. There needs to a way to deal with those people without draining resources best used elsewhere. I have always favored exile. In this case, don't even incarcerate the guy, just put him on a plane back to the UK and make it clear that if he ever returns to the US, it won't end well for him. When he gets back to the UK, let the Brits do whatever they want with him. They can make him King if they want, as long as he doesn't come back here.

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 10:23 PM
He committed a crime. That means the criminal justice system must be involved. However, I agree with you that some situations, including this one, call for a cooperative effort between the law enforcement and medical communities.

We also need to acknowledge though, that some things and some people are just broken too badly to ever be fixed. There needs to a way to deal with those people without draining resources best used elsewhere. I have always favored exile. In this case, don't even incarcerate the guy, just put him on a plane back to the UK and make it clear that if he ever returns to the US, it won't end well for him. When he gets back to the UK, let the Brits do whatever they want with him. They can make him King if they want, as long as he doesn't come back here.
Certainly in the case of this poor fellow, sending him home would be the best outcome. At least he has family there. I'm surprised that he was allowed to travel.

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 10:32 PM
Perhaps we can just " hug " him rehabilitated?

He's not really a criminal - he has psychological and psychiatric problems. You cannot hug him fixed no matter what. He needs supervision and help and perhaps one day he will be stable enough to be independent. Until that happens he is a patsy for anyone who wants to use him because he really lacks the normal human ability to understand complex situations. He can be easily manipulated. He is emotionally backward. He looks like a young man but emotionally he is a child. He should never have been allowed to leave home.

resister
03-12-2017, 10:42 PM
He's not really a criminal - he has psychological and psychiatric problems. You cannot hug him fixed no matter what. He needs supervision and help and perhaps one day he will be stable enough to be independent. Until that happens he is a patsy for anyone who wants to use him because he really lacks the normal human ability to understand complex situations. He can be easily manipulated. He is emotionally backward. He looks like a young man but emotionally he is a child. He should never have been allowed to leave home.
I wish you were my lawyer when I was 17 and got 4 years in prison for breaking in a house. No offense Dr Who, but cry me a river. He deserves what he gets, just like my 17 YO self!

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 10:53 PM
I wish you were my lawyer when I was 17 and got 4 years in prison for breaking in a house. No offense Dr Who, but cry me a river. He deserves what he gets, just like my 17 YO self!
Were you ever diagnosed as having autism or Aspergers (a form of autism)?

resister
03-12-2017, 10:58 PM
Were you ever diagnosed as having autism or Aspergers (a form of autism)?
ADD in the third grade and "surprise" suicide attempts in the county jail at age 17.

I was force fed ritilan in the third grade. I wonder if this predisposed me to meth?

Ethereal
03-12-2017, 11:09 PM
ADD in the third grade and "surprise" suicide attempts in the county jail at age 17.

I was force fed ritilan in the third grade. I wonder if this predisposed me to meth?

Ritalin is very similar to "meth" in terms of its chemical composition. I personally believe it's a form of abuse to put children on "Ritalin" and other powerful stimulants. Most kids who are diagnosed with "ADD" are not really suffering from an illness or a condition. They are just one of millions of kids who do not fit very well into the post-agricultural paradigm characterized by its rigid hierarchies and sedentary modes of living.

resister
03-12-2017, 11:14 PM
Ritalin is very similar to "meth" in terms of its chemical composition. I personally believe it's a form of abuse to put children on "Ritalin" and other powerful stimulants. Most kids who are diagnosed with "ADD" are not really suffering from an illness or a condition. They are just one of millions of kids who do not fit very well into the post-agricultural paradigm characterized by its rigid hierarchies and sedentary modes of living.
I 100% agree. A chemical lobotomy. A crime against children. It did not work as a defense against prison.

I was guilty and deserved every single day.

As far as ritilan goes, I counteracted it with much pscilocybin in later years:)

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 11:37 PM
ADD in the third grade and "surprise" suicide attempts in the county jail at age 17.

I was force fed ritilan in the third grade. I wonder if this predisposed me to meth?

It sounds like you were the victim of pseudoscience. It was probably more likely that your diet was inappropriate and caused you to be hyperactive or that you were not getting sufficient exercise to burn off your energy. Too many kids have been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD who are simply being fed the wrong food or are getting insufficient exercise. Some in fact just never knew any discipline at home and were unprepared for a disciplined environment.

resister
03-12-2017, 11:42 PM
It sounds like you were the victim of pseudoscience. It was probably more likely that your diet was inappropriate and caused you to be hyperactive or that you were not getting sufficient exercise to burn off your energy. Too many kids have been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD who are simply being fed the wrong food or are getting insufficient exercise. Some in fact just never knew any discipline at home and were unprepared for a disciplined environment.
I believe this drugging of children in predisposing kids to crank(meth).

*Parent* "littile jonny is not normal. *Doc*" Well , let me ask jonny a series of questions.

* Doc to mother* Yep, little jonny is abnormal. Here are some pills that will fix him (and my income) right up.

Dr. Who
03-12-2017, 11:51 PM
I believe this drugging of children in predisposing kids to crank(meth).

*Parent* "littile jonny is not normal. *Doc*" Well , let me ask jonny a series of questions.

* Doc to mother* Yep, little jonny is abnormal. Here are some pills that will fix him (and my income) right up.
Sadly too many people feed their children what they want to eat and not what they need to eat and then assume that the subsequent behavioral disorders result from some mental problem rather than a chemical disorder brought about by a diet too high in sugars and carbs.

resister
03-13-2017, 12:43 AM
Sadly too many people feed their children what they want to eat and not what they need to eat and then assume that the subsequent behavioral disorders result from some mental problem rather than a chemical disorder brought about by a diet too high in sugars and carbs.
So they use chemicals to "fix" it. Hey Subdermal, how do you do that headslap thing?

resister
03-13-2017, 12:46 AM
Sadly too many people feed their children what they want to eat and not what they need to eat and then assume that the subsequent behavioral disorders result from some mental problem rather than a chemical disorder brought about by a diet too high in sugars and carbs.
I was indeed an 80 sugar baby. Good gawd, I remember being raised on sugar. But, that does not excuse my criminal offenses.

William
03-13-2017, 01:17 AM
Sadly too many people feed their children what they want to eat and not what they need to eat and then assume that the subsequent behavioral disorders result from some mental problem rather than a chemical disorder brought about by a diet too high in sugars and carbs.

Lol, sadly (in another way) I was never so lucky. I went to boarding school until we came to Australia (and I'm still a day boarder,) so I only ever get fed what other people want me to eat - and its the same at home. My mum is a doctor, and as far as diet is concerned, she missed her vocation as a modern day concentration camp commandant. So I have to sneak the odd choccy in between school and home, cos there's nary a chocolate flake or malteser that sullies our pantry. I'm being bludgeoned to death with 'healthy' food. :grin:

resister
03-13-2017, 01:20 AM
Lol, sadly (in another way) I was never so lucky. I went to boarding school until we came to Australia (and I'm still a day boarder,) so I only ever get fed what other people want me to eat - and its the same at home. My mum is a doctor, and as far as diet is concerned, she missed her vocation as a modern day concentration camp commandant. So I have to sneak the odd choccy in between school and home, cos there's nary a chocolate flake or malteser that sullies our pantry. I'm being bludgeoned to death with 'healthy' food. :grin:
At least pharmacueticals are not forced down your gullet.