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Cigar
03-14-2017, 07:24 AM
A Real Life Voter Fraud Conviction!



http://www.coloradopols.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/vote-twice-300x217.jpg

A press release moments ago from El Paso County Clerk and Recorder Chuck Broerman announces one of the rarest events in American politics, even if it’s one of the most commonly feared: a conviction for actual vote fraud by an actual voter.

The El Paso County Clerk and Recorder’s Office is pleased to announce a conviction has been secured in one of the outstanding voter fraud cases being investigated by the District Attorney’s Office. Toni Newbill pleaded guilty to voting twice under Colorado Revised Statute 1-13-710. The penalty for this crime includes probation, community service, a fine, and other court fees. Ms. Newbill attempted to cast Ralph Nanninga’s ballot in the 2016 Primary Election. Mr. Nanninga passed away in 2012.

“I’d like to thank our District Attorney Dan May and his staff for their great work on this case,” said Clerk and Recorder Chuck Broerman. “Our office takes voter fraud seriously and we’re committed to combating it in every form. We’ll continue to work with various agencies to prevent voter fraud, clean up registration lists, and prosecute those who try to abuse our democratic system.”


To say that Republican elected officials “take voter fraud seriously” is a bit of an understatement, since vote fraud claims formed an outsize component of Republican pre-election messaging in the 2016 elections. It’s true that Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican himself, pushed back on Donald Trump’s unsubstantiated accusations that the “election is rigged,” but that didn’t stop the rumors from spreading within conservative media. Just as one example, former Secretary of State Scott Gessler’s unfounded claims of “tens of thousands” of illegal voters in Colorado were recycled by national conservative columnist Michelle Malkin with absolutely no regard for truthfulness.

But never mind all that, now we’ve got a real-life voter who has pled guilty to voting twice! Surely that confirms Republicans’ worst fears of rampant voter fraud, right? The answer is no, for two reasons. The first is that this conviction is evidence the system works. The attempt in this case by a Colorado voter to cast two ballots was not successful, because the voter in question, Toni Newbill, was caught.

And the second reason? Toni Newbill is a registered Republican. The election in which she attempted to cast two ballots was the 2016 primary election, in which the marquee contest was the Republican U.S. Senate primary–the same primary that saw frontrunner Jon Keyser’s campaign collapse under allegations of petition fraud, which later resulted in a felony conviction of a Keyser campaign subcontractor.

http://www.coloradopols.com/diary/92685/breaking-a-real-life-voter-fraud-conviction

patrickt
03-14-2017, 07:35 AM
Poor, poor Cigar. Lord knows he tries. But, he slept right through Melowese Richardson case didn't he. She was an poll worker who voted repeatedly, was prosecuted and sentenced to five years in prison but being a good Democrat she was released after serving eight months, went to a voter rally, and was cheered by the Democrats.

Won't some of you liberals help poor Cigar. Lord knows he wants to be smart.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/03/21/woman-convicted-of-voter-fraud-honored-by-ohio-democrats/

"Eric Holder's Justice Department wastes no time suing states over their voter ID laws — to protect the franchise, he says. But a fraudster who repeatedly voted for President Obama? Why, she gets a pass.Consider the celebrity status bestowed upon Melowese Richardson, the Ohio poll worker who admitted she voted six times for President Obama in 2012. Typically, voting just twice for president is enough to draw a federal felony charge."
http://triblive.com/opinion/editorials/5831290-74/richardson-voting-fraud

"Ohio Democrats held a “Welcome Home” party for convicted voter fraud felon Melowese Richardson this week.
Al Sharpton gave the convicted Democratic voter a big hug."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/wow-al-sharpton-democrats-honor-convicted-voter-fraud-felon-melowese-richardson-at-welcome-home-party/

"CINCINNATI (CBS Cleveland/AP) — A former Ohio poll worker sentenced to five years in prison for voting illegally on behalf of other people has been released from prison after less than a year behind bars."
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/03/11/poll-worker-who-said-she-voted-multiple-times-for-obama-for-family-members-released-early-from-prison/

Okay, so vioting for Barack Obama six times isn't a crime in LibWorld. But, like Cigar, lord knows the liberals are trying. Right now they're trying to stop the silly peaceful transfer of power with elections.

MMC
03-14-2017, 07:39 AM
Poor, poor Cigar. Lord knows he tries. But, he slept right through Mel;owese Richardson didn't he. The was an poll worker who voted repeatedly, was prosecuted and sentenced to five years in prison but being a good Democrat she was released after serving eight months, went to a voter rally, and was cheered by the Democrats.

Won't some of you liberal help poor Cigar. Lord knows he wants to be smart.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/03/21/woman-convicted-of-voter-fraud-honored-by-ohio-democrats/

"Eric Holder's Justice Department wastes no time suing states over their voter ID laws — to protect the franchise, he says. But a fraudster who repeatedly voted for President Obama? Why, she gets a pass.Consider the celebrity status bestowed upon Melowese Richardson, the Ohio poll worker who admitted she voted six times for President Obama in 2012. Typically, voting just twice for president is enough to draw a federal felony charge."
http://triblive.com/opinion/editorials/5831290-74/richardson-voting-fraud

"Ohio Democrats held a “Welcome Home” party for convicted voter fraud felon Melowese Richardson this week.
Al Sharpton gave the convicted Democratic voter a big hug."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/wow-al-sharpton-democrats-honor-convicted-voter-fraud-felon-melowese-richardson-at-welcome-home-party/

"CINCINNATI (CBS Cleveland/AP) — A former Ohio poll worker sentenced to five years in prison for voting illegally on behalf of other people has been released from prison after less than a year behind bars."
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/03/11/poll-worker-who-said-she-voted-multiple-times-for-obama-for-family-members-released-early-from-prison/

Okay, so vioting for Barack Obama six times isn't a crime in LibWorld. But, like Cigar, loard knows the liberals are trying. Right now they're trying to stop the silly peaceful transfer of power with elections.

:laugh: Well, James said he has been gone for a minute. So you know he is months behind in the discovery.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 07:41 AM
Poor, poor Cigar. Lord knows he tries. But, he slept right through Melowese Richardson case didn't he. The was an poll worker who voted repeatedly, was prosecuted and sentenced to five years in prison but being a good Democrat she was released after serving eight months, went to a voter rally, and was cheered by the Democrats.

Won't some of you liberal help poor Cigar. Lord knows he wants to be smart.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/03/21/woman-convicted-of-voter-fraud-honored-by-ohio-democrats/

"Eric Holder's Justice Department wastes no time suing states over their voter ID laws — to protect the franchise, he says. But a fraudster who repeatedly voted for President Obama? Why, she gets a pass.Consider the celebrity status bestowed upon Melowese Richardson, the Ohio poll worker who admitted she voted six times for President Obama in 2012. Typically, voting just twice for president is enough to draw a federal felony charge."
http://triblive.com/opinion/editorials/5831290-74/richardson-voting-fraud

"Ohio Democrats held a “Welcome Home” party for convicted voter fraud felon Melowese Richardson this week.
Al Sharpton gave the convicted Democratic voter a big hug."
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/wow-al-sharpton-democrats-honor-convicted-voter-fraud-felon-melowese-richardson-at-welcome-home-party/

"CINCINNATI (CBS Cleveland/AP) — A former Ohio poll worker sentenced to five years in prison for voting illegally on behalf of other people has been released from prison after less than a year behind bars."
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/03/11/poll-worker-who-said-she-voted-multiple-times-for-obama-for-family-members-released-early-from-prison/

Okay, so vioting for Barack Obama six times isn't a crime in LibWorld. But, like Cigar, loard knows the liberals are trying. Right now they're trying to stop the silly peaceful transfer of power with elections.
1st, where did he say anything like that? You conservitards love to put words into peoples mouths don't you.

2nd, you need better sources than RWNJ blogs of you want to be credible.

Cigar
03-14-2017, 07:47 AM
1st, where did he say anything like that? You conservitards love to put words into peoples mouths don't you.

2nd, you need better sources than RWNJ blogs of you want to be credible.

I think they're posting in the wrong thread, because that has nothing to do with this FACT that was Reported.

I understand, it's embarrassing trying to come up with valid excuses, but damn .... the Trumpkins are making complete idiots of themselves. :laugh:

MMC
03-14-2017, 07:48 AM
1st, where did he say anything like that? You conservitards love to put words into peoples mouths don't you.

2nd, you need better sources than RWNJ blogs of you want to be credible.


Try looking up convictions on Voter Fraud. This way you will need to come up with something else than Rwing sources.

Oh and check history with the Thompson Election in Illinois and let us know about the 63 Demos who got hooked up there all at one time.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 07:50 AM
Try looking up convictions on Voter Fraud. This way you will need to come up with something else than Rwing sources.

Oh and check history with the Thompson Election in Illinois and let us know about the 63 Demos who got hooked up there all at one time.

35 years ago.

Cigar
03-14-2017, 07:52 AM
Try looking up convictions on Voter Fraud. This way you will need to come up with something else than Rwing sources.

Oh and check history with the Thompson Election in Illinois and let us know about the 63 Demos who got hooked up there all at one time.

Good is that where you hid the 4 Million Voters :laugh:

You guys do look like idiots when you do that. :tongue:

MMC
03-14-2017, 07:52 AM
35 years ago.

And.....I said check History, Right? But once you look up the current ones. You will find out even the Los Angeles Times reported on some voter fraud convictions. Then the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times.

MMC
03-14-2017, 07:54 AM
Good is that where you hid the 4 Million Voters :laugh:

You guys do look like idiots when you do that. :tongue:

Oh were you looking to move the goalposts again. :laugh:

Now think about your appearance when you do that. :grin:

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 07:55 AM
And.....I said check History, Right? But once you look up the current ones. You will find out even the Los Angeles Times reported on some voter fraud convictions. Then the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times.

Tiny, inconsequential, amounts. As often or even more often committed by conservative/republican actors.

MMC
03-14-2017, 07:57 AM
Tiny, inconsequential, amounts. As often or even more often committed by conservative/republican actors.


Only takes a few to win an election. Ask Al Franken.
Not quite.....and History says otherwise.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 07:59 AM
Only takes a few to win an election. Ask Al Franken.
Not quite.....and History says otherwise.

You will need some facts to put behind that. It does not jive with what I found.

patrickt
03-14-2017, 08:09 AM
1st, where did he say anything like that? You conservitards love to put words into peoples mouths don't you.

2nd, you need better sources than RWNJ blogs of you want to be credible.

Poor Crepitus. He really should read the thread title. And, I realize LibWorld lives, and dies, by fake news but that's life.

patrickt
03-14-2017, 08:13 AM
You will need some facts to put behind that. It does not jive with what I found.
And Crepitus is as transparent as Obama. What's he's "found" will be kept a secret. Of course, everyone, even liberals know, which party wants to prevent the disenfranchisement of voters who are foreign nationals, or dead, or felons, or have already voted.

And, Crepitus, even poor, poor, pitiful Cigar acknowledges the reality of voter fraud. That's why he started the thread. I suppose either Cigar or Crepitus is behind the curve on talking points.

MMC
03-14-2017, 08:13 AM
You will need some facts to put behind that. It does not jive with what I found.


:wink:

History of Voter Fraud.....


Fortunately there is plenty of data to adduce. Democrat Party machines have been stuffing ballot boxes for at least sixteen decades. I’m not saying that Repubs. have never been guilty of election day crimes, but history shows that the Dems have been far more successful at it.


In New York City, for example, the Tammany Hall machine was rigging elections all the way back to the Boss Tweed era (http://www.nndb.com/people/924/000116576/) of the 1850’s. In the 1896 election, New York businessmen like Diamond Jim Brady had to keep their support for William McKinley secret, because they knew Tammany Hall would destroy anyone in the city who supported a Republican Presidential candidate.


In the aftermath of the Civil War, Southern Democrats used poll taxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_per_head), grandfather clauses, and other legal maneuvers (not to mention illegal maneuvers involving the Ku Klux Klan) to keep blacks from getting to the polls. Republicans fought back with the Fourteenth Amendment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion#Citizenship_and_civil_rights), which among other things makes race-based voting restrictions illegal.


For over half a century, Democrat Machine politics have dominated politics in Chicago. Mayor Richard Daley Sr. is widely credited with helping JFK win (http://www.defendthevote.com/election-news/50-election-news/14-jfk-winning-election-s-the-chicago-way) a razor-thin Presidential election by mobilizing thousands of dead and non-existant Chicago residents to vote Democrat, and things haven’t changed much since then. In 1982 the US Attorney in Chicago estimated that the party machine manufactured at least 100,000 extra votes (http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/04/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-in-chicago) in an attempt to defeat Republican gubernatorial candidate James Thompson. Sixty-three people were convicted of election fraud.


After the 1996 Congressional Elections Bob Dornan, a California Repub., lost his seat to a Dem. by only 984 votes. There is evidence to suggest that the number of votes cast by illegal aliens (http://soundpolitics.com/archives/003321.html)was greater than Dornan’s margin of defeat. Dornan could only conclusively prove that 547 of the votes had come from non-citizens, so the result was allowed to stand.


Also in 2004, Dem Al Franken won a Senate seat in Minnesota on an equally controversial re-count in which twenty-five different pro-Franken precincts mysteriously produced more ballots than registered voters (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html). All the extra ballots counted in the final total.


Speaking of the devil, eighteen foot soldiers for ACORN were convicted (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/acorn-workers-convicted-admitted-guilt-election-fraud/) of, or confessed to, election fraud in calendar year 2010. Republicans, with the help of a few embarrassed Democrats, cut off federal funding for the group, which promptly re-named and re-organized itself to escape from its tarnished reputation.


It may sound one-sided to say that the Republicans are fighting voter fraud while the Dems are fighting to facilitate it, but the facts really are just about that one-sided.......snip~


http://historyhalf.com/history-of-voter-fraud/

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:10 AM
Poor Crepitus. He really should read the thread title. And, I realize LibWorld lives, and dies, by fake news but that's life.

Making shit up as you go along as usual.

Subdermal
03-14-2017, 09:23 AM
1st, where did he say anything like that? You conservitards love to put words into peoples mouths don't you.

Um...Cigar's own words assert that this is the first time he's seen an actual conviction.


2nd, you need better sources than RWNJ blogs of you want to be credible.


You really should read before you shove your foot in your mouth. Reading doesn't require parting your lips.

See those links in there? They're to things like CBS.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:25 AM
Thread title Crepitus;

"Finally A Real Life Voter Fraud Conviction!"

"Finally" is key. As has been shown in this thread there's a history of voter fraud. Whether or not you consider it inconsequential is irrelevant.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:26 AM
:wink:

History of Voter Fraud.....


Fortunately there is plenty of data to adduce. Democrat Party machines have been stuffing ballot boxes for at least sixteen decades. I’m not saying that Repubs. have never been guilty of election day crimes, but history shows that the Dems have been far more successful at it.


In New York City, for example, the Tammany Hall machine was rigging elections all the way back to the Boss Tweed era (http://www.nndb.com/people/924/000116576/) of the 1850’s. In the 1896 election, New York businessmen like Diamond Jim Brady had to keep their support for William McKinley secret, because they knew Tammany Hall would destroy anyone in the city who supported a Republican Presidential candidate.


In the aftermath of the Civil War, Southern Democrats used poll taxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_per_head), grandfather clauses, and other legal maneuvers (not to mention illegal maneuvers involving the Ku Klux Klan) to keep blacks from getting to the polls. Republicans fought back with the Fourteenth Amendment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion#Citizenship_and_civil_rights), which among other things makes race-based voting restrictions illegal.


For over half a century, Democrat Machine politics have dominated politics in Chicago. Mayor Richard Daley Sr. is widely credited with helping JFK win (http://www.defendthevote.com/election-news/50-election-news/14-jfk-winning-election-s-the-chicago-way) a razor-thin Presidential election by mobilizing thousands of dead and non-existant Chicago residents to vote Democrat, and things haven’t changed much since then. In 1982 the US Attorney in Chicago estimated that the party machine manufactured at least 100,000 extra votes (http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/04/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-in-chicago) in an attempt to defeat Republican gubernatorial candidate James Thompson. Sixty-three people were convicted of election fraud.


After the 1996 Congressional Elections Bob Dornan, a California Repub., lost his seat to a Dem. by only 984 votes. There is evidence to suggest that the number of votes cast by illegal aliens (http://soundpolitics.com/archives/003321.html)was greater than Dornan’s margin of defeat. Dornan could only conclusively prove that 547 of the votes had come from non-citizens, so the result was allowed to stand.


Also in 2004, Dem Al Franken won a Senate seat in Minnesota on an equally controversial re-count in which twenty-five different pro-Franken precincts mysteriously produced more ballots than registered voters (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html). All the extra ballots counted in the final total.


Speaking of the devil, eighteen foot soldiers for ACORN were convicted (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/acorn-workers-convicted-admitted-guilt-election-fraud/) of, or confessed to, election fraud in calendar year 2010. Republicans, with the help of a few embarrassed Democrats, cut off federal funding for the group, which promptly re-named and re-organized itself to escape from its tarnished reputation.


It may sound one-sided to say that the Republicans are fighting voter fraud while the Dems are fighting to facilitate it, but the facts really are just about that one-sided.......snip~


http://historyhalf.com/history-of-voter-fraud/

Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here.

Here's some real election fraud for ya:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html


“We have across most states some significant element of voter suppression,” says Zoltan Hajnal, a University of California at San Diego political scientist specializing in voting rights. “Over time these have shrunk the electorate in significant ways and tilted the electorate toward the Republican Party.”

MMC
03-14-2017, 09:34 AM
Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here.

Here's some real election fraud for ya:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html

Try again.....and this time note all those blue words are links. Then we have this.


Voter Fraud in the US: Documented:
Part 1


August 22, 2004: Voter-Registration Fraud in New York and Florida

Voting twice in an election is punishable by up to five years in prison. Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city [New York] and Florida, a shocking finding that exposes both states to potential abuses that could alter the outcome of elections, a Daily News investigation shows. Registering in two places is illegal in both states, but the massive snowbird scandal goes undetected because election officials don't check rolls across state lines. The finding is even more stunning given the pivotal role Florida played in the 2000 presidential election, when a margin there of 537 votes tipped a victory to George W. Bush.

Computer records analyzed by The News don't allow for an exact count of how many people vote in both places, because millions of names are regularly purged between elections. But The News found that between 400 and 1,000 registered voters have voted twice in at least one election, a federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. (Source (http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/exposed-scandal-double-voters-46-000-registered-vote-city-fla-article-1.569992)).....snip~


SEE ALSO:
PART 2 (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=2215)
PART 3 (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=2214)


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=2216


Now note all those Sources. :wink:

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:37 AM
Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here.

Here's some real election fraud for ya:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html

Good for you, you just (in a backhanded sort of way) invalidated Cigar's and the OP's "Finally" premis. :thumbsup:

patrickt
03-14-2017, 09:45 AM
Crepitus: "Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here."

I never guessed Crepitus had a sense of humor but that's funny. Irony is not dead.

And I'm sure no one is surprised at Crepitus wanting to change the topic from voter fraud to the mythical liberal "voter suppression" cited in the Washington Post. Perhaps Crepitus would like to start a thread instead of highjacking Cigar's.

He could consider starting with the voter suppression of the New Black Panther Party.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 04:15 PM
Good for you, you just (in a backhanded sort of way) invalidated Cigar's and the OP's "Finally" premis. :thumbsup:

Lol, didn't read the link did ya.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 04:19 PM
Lol, didn't read the link did ya.

I did, but didn't need to. As has already been linked to numerous times in this thread there's a history of voter fraud. "Finally" was debunked.

decedent
03-14-2017, 04:30 PM
Good news, Trumpeters: there was at least one case of voter fraud. I guess you were right all along.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 04:32 PM
I did, but didn't need to. As has already been linked to numerous times in this thread there's a history of voter fraud. "Finally" was debunked.

Lol, no you didn't. And now you've lied about it and got caught.

It's about restrictive voting laws and the recent trend towards them.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 05:26 PM
Lol, no you didn't. And now you've lied about it and got caught.

It's about restrictive voting laws and the recent trend towards them.

And the thread's about actual cases of voter fraud not supposed suppression.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 05:28 PM
Good news, Trumpeters: there was at least one case of voter fraud. I guess you were right all along.

Quit a few more listed right in this here thread. Do try and keep up.

patrickt
03-14-2017, 06:37 PM
Lol, no you didn't. And now you've lied about it and got caught.

It's about restrictive voting laws and the recent trend towards them.

Restrictive laws are terrible. They stop dead people from voting, foreign nationals from voting, some felons from voting, and they try to stop liberals from voting over and over and over again in the same election. It's terrible and I'm proud you fight to protect your constituency.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 06:56 PM
And the thread's about actual cases of voter fraud not supposed suppression.

And you stood right here and lied to the forum.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 06:58 PM
Restrictive laws are terrible. They stop dead people from voting, foreign nationals from voting, some felons from voting, and they try to stop liberals from voting over and over and over again in the same election. It's terrible and I'm proud you fight to protect your constituency.

I guess Trump is rubbing off on you guys in the truth department.

decedent
03-14-2017, 06:58 PM
And the thread's about actual cases of voter fraud not supposed suppression.

Oh? How many voter fraud convictions were they in the past few years?

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 07:22 PM
Oh? How many voter fraud convictions were they in the past few years?

Oh, lots and lots.... Like 30 or so at least!

decedent
03-14-2017, 07:29 PM
Oh, lots and lots.... Like 30 or so at least!

Not even enough to fill a bus to Mexico.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 08:12 PM
And you stood right here and lied to the forum.

Not hardly.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 08:13 PM
Not hardly.

And the double down. Way to go.

Trump would be proud.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 08:14 PM
Oh? How many voter fraud convictions were they in the past few years?

Doesn't matter, just one refutes "Finally".

hanger4
03-14-2017, 08:16 PM
And the double down. Way to go.

Trump would be proud.

Can't double down on something that didn't happen.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 08:20 PM
Can't double down on something that didn't happen.

Sure, tell us another one.

decedent
03-14-2017, 08:22 PM
And the thread's about actual cases of voter fraud not supposed suppression.

Oh? How many voter fraud convictions were they in the past few years?

Doesn't matter....

It must matter to you, since you brought it up. How many "actual cases of voter fraud" were there in the past few years?

Captain Obvious
03-14-2017, 08:25 PM
It must matter to you, since you brought it up. How many "actual cases of voter fraud" were there in the past few years?

Documented or un?

resister
03-14-2017, 08:27 PM
Documented or un?
In LALA land, they catch every one!

Captain Obvious
03-14-2017, 08:29 PM
In LALA land, they catch every one!

It's only cheating if you get caught.

resister
03-14-2017, 08:30 PM
It's only cheating if you get caught.Then it will be excused as minor :rollseyes:

hanger4
03-14-2017, 08:30 PM
It must matter to you, since you brought it up. How many "actual cases of voter fraud" were there in the past few years?

"Finally" in the thread title and the linked story denotes the first which is obviously not true. Reading the thread through would obviously have clued you in.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:04 PM
It must matter to you, since you brought it up. How many "actual cases of voter fraud" were there in the past few years?

BTW decedent don't change the context of posts you quote;



Doesn't matter, just one refutes "Finally".

That's a no no and denotes dishonesty.

decedent
03-14-2017, 09:30 PM
BTW @decedent (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1267) don't change the context of posts you quote;




That's a no no and denotes dishonesty.

I guess you're just going to weasel your way out of the answer. You mentioned "actual cases of voter fraud" and I'm wondering how many "actual cases of voter fraud" there have been in the past few years.


Instead of implying that I'm being deceptive, just admit that you won't answer my question -- I'm guessing it's because the actual numbers don't support your agenda. Reality and Trumpism are incomparable.

resister
03-14-2017, 09:35 PM
I guess you're just going to weasel your way out of the answer. You mentioned "actual cases of voter fraud" and I'm wondering how many "actual cases of voter fraud" there have been in the past few years.


Instead of implying that I'm being deceptive, just admit that you won't answer my question -- I'm guessing it's because the actual numbers don't support your agenda. Reality and Trumpism are incomparable.Like I said, in lala land they catch every one. Law school 101, if no one sees it and the police are not involved no crime has occurred.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:37 PM
I guess you're just going to weasel your way out of the answer. You mentioned "actual cases of voter fraud" and I'm wondering how many "actual cases of voter fraud" there have been in the past few years.


Instead of implying that I'm being deceptive, just admit that you won't answer my question -- I'm guessing it's because the actual numbers don't support your agenda. Reality and Trumpism are incomparable.

Your question was answered several times. Hell, if you had read the thread thoroughly and comprehended what you read you wouldn't have needed to ask. It just takes one case to debunk "Finally".

I'm sorry you don't like the answer, but that's on you.

BTW I wasn't implying, you were deceptive, you quoted me out of context.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:38 PM
BTW @decedent (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1267) don't change the context of posts you quote;




That's a no no and denotes dishonesty.

Says the guy who lied to us all in this very thread.

resister
03-14-2017, 09:40 PM
Says the guy who lied to us all in this very thread.Says the guy who just said in another thread" my post are always relevant and on topic! LOL!!!

decedent
03-14-2017, 09:41 PM
Says the guy who lied to us all in this very thread.

His signature move is calling you a liar right after he lies.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:42 PM
Says the guy who just said in another thread" my post are always relevant and on topic! LOL!!!

That is not a lie. They are.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:42 PM
Says the guy who lied to us all in this very thread.

Again, not hardly.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:45 PM
Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here.

Here's some real election fraud for ya:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html


Good for you, you just (in a backhanded sort of way) invalidated Cigar's and the OP's "Finally" premis. :thumbsup:


Lol, didn't read the link did ya.


I did, but didn't need to. As has already been linked to numerous times in this thread there's a history of voter fraud. "Finally" was debunked.


Lol, no you didn't. And now you've lied about it and got caught.

It's about restrictive voting laws and the recent trend towards them.

Boom.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:45 PM
His signature move is calling you a liar right after he lies.

Haven't lied, both you seem to be suffering from lack of reading comprehension skills in this thread.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 09:46 PM
Almost all of that is speculation and hear-say. Facts man, that's what counts here.

Here's some real election fraud for ya:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html


Good for you, you just (in a backhanded sort of way) invalidated Cigar's and the OP's "Finally" premis. :thumbsup:


Lol, didn't read the link did ya.


I did, but didn't need to. As has already been linked to numerous times in this thread there's a history of voter fraud. "Finally" was debunked.


Haven't lied, both you to be suffering frow lack of reading comprehension skills in this thread.

Nope. You said a deliberate untruth.

decedent
03-14-2017, 09:50 PM
Like I said, in lala land they catch every one. Law school 101, if no one sees it and the police are not involved no crime has occurred.


So... fraudulent voters are leprechauns?


Your question was answered several times. Hell, if you had read the thread thoroughly and comprehended what you read you wouldn't have needed to ask.


Less than a bus full?



It just takes one case to debunk "Finally".


Finally.


I'm sorry you don't like the answer, but that's on you.

BTW I wasn't implying, you were deceptive, you quoted me out of context.

Yeah, like when people only quote a paragraph of a book instead of inserting the entire book into their essays. How dishonest.

resister
03-14-2017, 09:53 PM
That is not a lie. They are.
Go back to the current thread about pelosis tweet. Those who live in glass houses. You trolled the thread and then claimed you were on topic and when called for blatant hypocrisy, double right on down! :rollseyes:KABOOM!

decedent
03-14-2017, 09:54 PM
Since you're obsessed with others' reading comprehension...

Haven't lied, both you seem to be suffering from lack of reading comprehension skills in this thread.
Oh yeah... there's your other signature move.

hanger4
03-14-2017, 09:58 PM
Boom.

You really have a comprehension problem Crepitus. You posted a link about 'election fraud', similar but not exactly 'voter fraud'. The OP stated emphatically "Finally a case" denoting a first case. You, in a back handed way, debunked the OP's "Finally a case" premis.

No lie, just your mild lack of understanding.

Decedent, on the otherhand, was being dishonest by quoting me out of context, without which he had no point.

Crepitus
03-14-2017, 11:21 PM
You really have a comprehension problem Crepitus. You posted a link about 'election fraud', similar but not exactly 'voter fraud'. The OP stated emphatically "Finally a case" denoting a first case. You, in a back handed way, debunked the OP's "Finally a case" premis.

No lie, just your mild lack of understanding.

Decedent, on the otherhand, was being dishonest by quoting me out of context, without which he had no point.

Lol, squirm all you want little man, you were caught red handed.

Btw, it's obvious you still haven't read the link because you still don't know what it's about!

This would be funny if it wasn't just sad.

hanger4
03-15-2017, 06:24 AM
lol, squirm all you want little man, you were caught red handed.

Btw, it's obvious you still haven't read the link because you still don't know what it's about!

This would be funny if it wasn't just sad.

SO, this supposed big lie is I didn't read the link ??

:rofl:

The respect I had for you made me reread thinking I may have unintentionally said something, I didn't. Do understand the meaning of "had".

Crepitus
03-15-2017, 06:29 AM
SO, this supposed big lie is I didn't read the link ??

:rolf:

lawdy

Whatever dude. Everybody knows what you did.

patrickt
03-15-2017, 07:06 AM
Whatever dude. Everybody knows what you did.
When you get to junior high you'll have better responses. It is the liberal strategy though to declare victory and run like hell. But, lord know, you try, Crepitus and some day, maybe......

hanger4
03-15-2017, 07:07 AM
Whatever dude. Everybody knows what you did.

Whatever Crepitus, your petty insistence is just that petty.

Crepitus
03-15-2017, 07:21 AM
When you get to junior high you'll have better responses. It is the liberal strategy though to declare victory and run like hell. But, lord know, you try, Crepitus and some day, maybe......

You keep tryin' Pat, someday you'll be relevant. Util then pipe down and let the big kids talk.

Crepitus
03-15-2017, 07:22 AM
Whatever Crepitus, your petty insistence is just that petty.

Don't tell lies, you won't get called on them.

Pretty simple shit dude.

hanger4
03-15-2017, 07:25 AM
Don't tell lies, you won't get called on them.Pretty simple shit dude.I didn't lie, regardless of how many times you say so.

Crepitus
03-15-2017, 07:31 AM
I didn't lie, regardless of how many times you say so.

But you did, and about a petty, minor thing. Most people, if they lie at all, will save it for special occasions. Only the habitual liars will falsify minor points.

hanger4
03-15-2017, 10:21 AM
But you did, and about a petty, minor thing. Most people, if they lie at all, will save it for special occasions. Only the habitual liars will falsify minor points.

Get over it Crepitus, there's no way you can prove I lied and there's no way I can prove I didn't. It's your word against mine.

I'll relie on my reputation.

Crepitus
03-15-2017, 02:28 PM
Get over it Crepitus, there's no way you can prove I lied and there's no way I can prove I didn't. It's your word against mine.

I'll relie on my reputation.

It's in print. Right here in this thread.