Spring piston pellet guns

[resister]

Just got a new toy for 127.00$ A 22 cal. Crossman crusher spring piston pellet rifle. It fires a 14 gr pellet at 800 fps producing 20 ft lbs (according to the manufactuer)

Is it a "real" gun? Not really, but this aint your childhood bb gun. It would be illegal in Canada and the UK.

It comes with a 4 X 32 scope and can hit cans at 150 feet(more if you do your part). It can dispatch medium game at a range of 60 feet or so (maybe more, but unethical)


It is cheap and quiet to shoot. It satisfies the shooting bug when I don't want the hassle of shooting my pistols.

And with a good backstop and a fair sized yard, you can plink with out hitting the woods.

[Private Pickle]

What are you gonna use it for? Maybe Safety would like to understand the quiet nature of such a gun so he can poach protected animals in peace...

[resister]

What are you gonna use it for? Maybe @Safety (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1226) would like to understand the quiet nature of such a gun so he can poach protected animals in peace...
Just cheap plinking, maybe rabbits. Went to the river to zeroe it today. Saw a bald eagle 200 yards off. Used the 4 power scope to check out the eagle, it was unloaded. Just a magnification aide.

Shooting protected birds is not my cup of tea.

[Cthulhu]

What are you gonna use it for? Maybe Safety would like to understand the quiet nature of such a gun so he can poach protected animals in peace...
Oi vey.

Fear profits a man nothing.

[resister]

Oi vey.

Fear profits a man nothing.
Oh wow is he who poaches!

[Cthulhu]

Oh wow is he who poaches!
When wild Animals attack livestock, their protected status ends.

Fear profits a man nothing.

[resister]

When wild Animals attack livestock, their protected status ends.

Fear profits a man nothing.
FTR record, a redtailed hawk cant even take a squirell.

[Cthulhu]

FTR record, a redtailed hawk cant even take a squirell.
Then he better not try to take one out on somebody's lawn.

Wild animals stay in the wild, of thru roam where people live they get domesticated, trained and put to a purpose.

Or die.

Fear profits a man nothing.

[Safety]

When wild Animals attack livestock, their protected status ends.

Fear profits a man nothing.

I appreciate you showing that there are still mature and intelligent members here.

[resister]

Any who, spring piston pellet guns are loads of fun. I can put a hole in a quarter with mine, when you tape it to plywood.

[Cthulhu]

I appreciate you showing that there are still mature and intelligent members here.
We may differ on many things.

But I'm on team people. And as far as I'm concerned, you should have shot that hawk twice.

Fear profits a man nothing.

[Cthulhu]

Any who, spring piston pellet guns are loads of fun. I can put a hole in a quarter with mine, when you tape it to plywood.
Sounds like a good gift for a young boy.

What is the best way to store it so as to avoid spring fatigue?

Fear profits a man nothing.

[resister]

Sounds like a good gift for a young boy.

What is the best way to store it so as to avoid spring fatigue?

Fear profits a man nothing.
Well with a springer, you don't store it cocked, it weakens the mainspring, mine is actually a nitrogen gas ram, similar to the opening mech on an SUV back glass. You can store it cocked, but I generally rely on my loaded 44 for that sort of thing.

I would not give this to a boy under 16. It will burry in a phone book at point blank, at least 3 inches. A phone book is tougher than a body.

Gas rams produce way less vibrations, thus greater accuracy. The principle is the same as a spring, a piston is pushed down a chamber pushing air thru the port at the breech pushing the pellet.

[resister]

This explains it better than me.
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2013/04/a-few-words-about-gas-rams-gas-springs-and-nitro-piston.html

[resister]

We may differ on many things.

But I'm on team people. And as far as I'm concerned, you should have shot that hawk twice.

Fear profits a man nothing.
Maybe then he might of hit it once, he hit what the little boy shot at, which is to say...nothing.

[Common]

Once got a call that a man was leaning out of the first floor window of a small grain factory with a rifle. We get there take all precautions, he looked scared half to death anyway it turned out to be a pellet gun bought and owned by the company.

I said what the hell are you using it for and he said if you will walk over here ill show you. I was stunned there was a pile of dead rats and the biggest fattest rats ive ever seen. All the do all night is eat spent beer grains picked up from breweries and they just blow up and get huge. They bought the pellet gun to try and control them

[resister]

Once got a call that a man was leaning out of the first floor window of a small grain factory with a rifle. We get there take all precautions, he looked scared half to death anyway it turned out to be a pellet gun bought and owned by the company.

I said what the hell are you using it for and he said if you will walk over here ill show you. I was stunned there was a pile of dead rats and the biggest fattest rats ive ever seen. All the do all night is eat spent beer grains picked up from breweries and they just blow up and get huge. They bought the pellet gun to try and control themThey are commonly used for pest control in some industrys.

[Stick]

Just got a new toy for 127.00$ A 22 cal. Crossman crusher spring piston pellet rifle. It fires a 14 gr pellet at 800 fps producing 20 ft lbs (according to the manufactuer)

Is it a "real" gun? Not really, but this aint your childhood bb gun. It would be illegal in Canada and the UK.

It comes with a 4 X 32 scope and can hit cans at 150 feet(more if you do your part). It can dispatch medium game at a range of 60 feet or so (maybe more, but unethical)


It is cheap and quiet to shoot. It satisfies the shooting bug when I don't want the hassle of shooting my pistols.

And with a good backstop and a fair sized yard, you can plink with out hitting the woods.
I have a Gammo .17 cal. With BPA ammo it is advertised to go 1250fps and I believe it. Point blank it goes right through a 2x4 and I have no problem dropping crows with it at 30 yards or more.

Fun toy!

[nic34]

They are commonly used for pest control in some industrys.

Prolly save on powder and brass eh?

[resister]

I have a Gammo .17 cal. With BPA ammo it is advertised to go 1250fps and I believe it. Point blank it goes right through a 2x4 and I have no problem dropping crows with it at 30 yards or more.

Fun toy!
I like playing with mine when I don't feel like shooting my cap n balls. They are really fun but a real bitch to clean.

Next on the list is a PCP big bore air gun, ballistics similar to firearms but very pricey :embarrassed:

[resister]

Prolly save on powder and brass eh?
A lot cheaper to shoot than a 22 even. I'm waiting on the tech to improve to the point where the same mech can shoot big bore bullets.

I'm sure it can already but size limitations likely make that currently impractical. Also cocking force is an issue, my current 22 is about 30 pounds of force needed to depress the ram.

[Stick]

I like playing with mine when I don't feel like shooting my cap n balls. They are really fun but a real bitch to clean.

Next on the list is a PCP big bore air gun, ballistics similar to firearms but very pricey :embarrassed:

Very heavy and they're not very quiet, either. Louder than a nail gun. There was a guy shooting one at a gravel pit near my house one day so I walked down to check out the strange sounding gun. I want to say it was .35caliber(?) I'm not sure who made it or what the price is but it didn't seen like it had any practical purpose.

[resister]

http://www.extremebigboreairrifles.com/ Check this sight out. They are achieving 500 ft lbs of energy, incredible for an airgun. They have a reservoir that is filled to 3,000 psi. Not bad when you consider that firearm bore pressures can easily hit 30,000 psi.
Ones custom made by machinest are objects de art!

[Stick]

http://www.extremebigboreairrifles.com/ Check this sight out. They are achieving 500 ft lbs of energy, incredible for an airgun. They have a reservoir that is filled to 3,000 psi. Not bad when you consider that firearm bore pressures can easily hit 30,000 psi.
Ones custom made by machinest are objects de art!

DAYEM!!!

You're right though, spendy buggers, ain't they!

[resister]

DAYEM!!!

You're right though, spendy buggers, ain't they!
Yes they are, they can be had for about 600$ from Dennis Quackenbush.
https://youtu.be/UELQWQ1SpxU Trying to link this hopefully I did it right
https://youtu.be/UELQWQ1SpxUThey have a 72 cal producing over 700 or so foot lbs :shocked: These aint jr's red ryder!

[resister]

Even if gun control goes rampant, legislation was passed long ago prohibiting the fed from calling any airgun a firearm.

[AZ Jim]

^^^^My question is, are felons who did prison time, such as you allowed guns where you live?

[resister]

^^^^My question is, are felons who did prison time, such as you allowed guns where you live?
Since you asked here is the statute, Fl. Statute 790.001(1) You can look it up if you want to, I could not find the link but this is quoted directly from The hunting regulations from the FWC.

Also, as already noted, airguns cannot be classified as a fire arm.

That fl statute addresses antique firearms and felons. An antique fire arm is defined as "Antiuqe firearm means any firearm manufactured in or before 1918 or replica thereof.

[resister]

^^^^My question is, are felons who did prison time, such as you allowed guns where you live?
Pretty sure I already went over this in other threads you have seen, why don't you ask safety if shooting hawks is legal?

[resister]

^^^^My question is, are felons who did prison time, such as you allowed guns where you live?
Here you go read it https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/790.001

[AZ Jim]

Have you completed the application for restoration of gun rights? Unless you possess such documentation, you are NOT legal. http://legalbeagle.com/6461767-florida-gun-laws-felons.html

[resister]

Have you completed the application for restoration of gun rights? Unless you possess such documentation, you are NOT legal. http://legalbeagle.com/6461767-florida-gun-laws-felons.html
Did you read the statute I linked? If you did you would know better. I bought mine from the pawn shop with my own name. They told me a cop came in and swore he was going to arrest me as I broke the law, they told him it was legal, he did not believe it, went to his truck looked on his computer they said when he came back in you could see the anger on his face.

You can quote the opinion of a lawyer, I quoted the fl statute and my experience with law enforcement

[jimmyz]

Pretty sure I already went over this in other threads you have seen, why don't you ask safety if shooting hawks is legal?

AZ Jim is just being a douche like usual in bringing up your past that has been satisfied within the law.

[resister]

Have you completed the application for restoration of gun rights? Unless you possess such documentation, you are NOT legal. http://legalbeagle.com/6461767-florida-gun-laws-felons.htmlI noticed your link of a lawyers interpretation did not link any fl statutes. If you have not read the link I provided I suggest you do so, then you can be informed.

[resister]

AZ Jim is just being a douche like usual in bringing up your past that has been satisfied within the law.
I know that, I even posted the direct Fl statute which he evidently did not bother read.

[AZ Jim]

I noticed your link of a lawyers interpretation did not link any fl statutes. If you have not read the link I provided I suggest you do so, then you can be informed.Have you filed for restoration and do you have documentation?

[resister]

AZ Jim is just being a douche like usual in bringing up your past that has been satisfied within the law.
He is such a stickler for law, safety attempting to shoot protected birds does not concern him.

[resister]

Have you filed for restoration and do you have documentation?You still refuse to read the specific fl law I linked you to?

[AZ Jim]

If I had my way, convicted felons would have NO RIGHTS under our Constitution.

[resister]

If I had my way, convicted felons would have NO RIGHTS under our Constitution.
Yeah well, your grumpy old ass cant have your way, all you can do is troll and seeth with impotent rage. Get a life gramps.

[jimmyz]

If I had my way, convicted felons would have NO RIGHTS under our Constitution.

Luckily you Leftists have leaned that you don't always "get your way". November 9, 2016 for instance.

[resister]

If I had my way, convicted felons would have NO RIGHTS under our Constitution.
Then who the hell would vote for democrats?

[AZ Jim]

Go old school, shoot cap n ball and cast your bullets!

[AZ Jim]

Then who the hell would vote for democrats?Uh....MOST AMERICANS!!!

[Ravens Fan]

AZ Jim is just being a douche like usual in bringing up your past that has been satisfied within the law.
@jimmyz Do not insult members.

[resister]

Go old school, shoot cap n ball and cast your bullets!Try it! You will like it!

[Cletus]

Very heavy and they're not very quiet, either. Louder than a nail gun. There was a guy shooting one at a gravel pit near my house one day so I walked down to check out the strange sounding gun. I want to say it was .35caliber(?) I'm not sure who made it or what the price is but it didn't seen like it had any practical purpose.

Precision airgun shooting is a big sport in parts of Europe. At one time, the Swiss ( I don't know if they still do) actually had the use of airguns against occupying forces a standard part of their doctrine of resistance of anyone ever invaded them.

[Cletus]

Have you filed for restoration and do you have documentation?

Why don't you go out and yell at the neighbor kids to get off your lawn and leave him alone?

[resister]

Precision airgun shooting is a big sport in parts of Europe. At one time, the Swiss ( I don't know if they still do) actually had the use of airguns against occupying forces a standard part of their doctrine of resistance of anyone ever invded them.The original lewis and clark big bore airgun is in the NRA collection, I think it is a 42 cal and to think they only had a pump with leather seals to charge the reservoir. I believe it is called a gioradoli made in Italy. I wonder about its ballistic properties?

[resister]

Why don't you go out and yell at the neighbor kids to get off your lawn and leave him alone?
He should follow his signatures advice!

[Chris]

What are you gonna use it for? Maybe Safety would like to understand the quiet nature of such a gun so he can poach protected animals in peace...

Call out insult.

[Stick]

^^^^My question is, are felons who did prison time, such as you allowed guns where you live?
What a dick thing to say. Dragging real life events into the thread for no other purpose than to insult someone? What the hell is your problem?

[resister]

What a dick thing to say. Dragging real life events into the thread for no other purpose than to insult someone? What the hell is your problem? He is just a jackass troll like that, he is still sore I put him on front street for sending me a nasty PM over a misspelling on my very first day.

[resister]

What a dick thing to say. Dragging real life events into the thread for no other purpose than to insult someone? What the hell is your problem?Then when I answered his question with links to the Fl statutes he ignores them and post opinion pieces that don't quote any state laws, then goes on to post another thread about me and halls ass from his own thread when I make him look a fool by posting the statutes and how the game commission views them in regard to felons hunting.