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MMC
03-28-2017, 07:53 AM
After suffering a defeat over Repealing and Replacing BO care. Trump comes Right back with signing an EO and going after BO peeps centerpiece on Climate Change. Thus crushing the Peeps Legacy. While showing the Demos just how he is going to keep the ball rolling with taking BO's legacy apart piece by piece. This is a good move while waiting on some legislation and the Gorsuch Victory coming his way.

Trump will play on this and even make a Symbolic gesture out of it. Which that will piss off the MS media since they wont be able to shut the matter down nor ignore it. What say ye?





President Trump will sign sweeping executive orders Tuesday that take aim at a number of his predecessor's climate policies.


The wide-ranging orders and accompanying memorandums will seek to undo the centerpiece of former President Obama's environmental legacy and national efforts to address climate change.


In a symbolic gesture, the president is expected to sign the documents at EPA headquarters......snip~


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/28/519003733/trump-takes-aim-at-a-centerpiece-of-obamas-environmental-legacy

exotix
03-28-2017, 07:56 AM
Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/11/trump-climate-timeline


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-image/trumpworldhair.jpg

patrickt
03-28-2017, 08:14 AM
The global warming hysterics, oh, excuse me, the climate change hysterics, oh, excuse me, the climate disruption hysterics will go crazy. See Exotix's cut and paste.

Please read Exotix's cut-and-paste from Mother Jones​. I don't think she bothered to read it.

When was it the ice cap at both poles was supposed to be gone and cities were supposed to be under water?

MMC
03-28-2017, 08:16 AM
Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/11/trump-climate-timeline


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-image/trumpworldhair.jpg

Tell Mother Jones to come out that Trump Tunnelvision. As now Trump is helping Seniors, Blacks and Hispanics that BO peep screwed over with his Clean Power Plan. Trump helping the Coal Industry and business. Tell them to focus and see if they can come up with a good excuse for something that BO peep did that cost jobs and targeted those groups.



The Clean Power Plan was an ambitious effort by the Obama administration to cut carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent from 2005 level by 2025. Both Democratic and Republican (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/10/12/democrats-are-starting-to-line-up-against-obamas-clean-power-plan-n2064826) attorneys general opposed it, over half the states opposed it (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/10/27/obamas-clean-power-plan-is-so-good-that-over-half-the-states-oppose-it-n2071910), and it targeted those living in rural America (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/04/obama-puts-rural-america-in-a-cross-hairs-n2034636). Pretty much any state that voted for Romney in 2012 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/08/14/why-yesobamas-clean-power-plan-punishes-red-states-and-pretty-much-everyone-else-n2038714) was going to get screwed over by this regulatory overhaul. In coal-producing states, like West Virginia, energy costs were projected to increase 20 percent (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/09/30/the-epa-west-virginia-and-the-looming-20-percent-hike-in-energy-costs-n2059319).


The Supreme Court stayed one of the main provisions (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/02/10/scotus-blocks-epa-carbon-rules-on-power-plants-n2117203), the power plant regulation, last year. Such increases in energy costs also put fixed-income seniors in the crosshairs. The ozone regulations between 2008-2013 cost a projected $56.6 billion in lost wages, along with 242,000 jobs. If Obama had succeeded in the war on coal, 125,800 jobs would’ve been lost in total, along with $650 billion in GDP. Moreover, millions of jobs (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/07/25/new-epa-regulations-could-gut-jobs-for-millions-of-black-and-hispanic-americans-n2030377) from the black and Hispanic communities could have been on the chopping block......snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/28/tremendous-trump-to-sign-executive-order-targeting-most-of-obamas-climate-change-agenda-n2305053

Tell them to make it good.....so they can suffer along side of their Special Man.

exotix
03-28-2017, 08:17 AM
Save the Coal Miners !


https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQs-mv1trPAhXBeT4KHaQZCQ8QPAgD#hl=en&q=Save+the+Coal+Miners+!&*




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1490707564/1_uynttf.png

MMC
03-28-2017, 08:24 AM
The global warming hysterics, oh, excuse me, the climate change hysterics, oh, excuse me, the climate disruption hysterics will go crazy. See Exotix's cut and paste.

Please read Exotix's cut-and-paste from Mother Jones​. I don't think she bothered to read it.

When was it the ice cap at both poles was supposed to be gone and cities were supposed to be under water?


It also ends what the Peep started with Federal lands in connection with Coal Mining. Where it really hurts BO peep and the Demos is it scraps their Bullshit about the Social Cost of Carbon. Time for Chucky Cheese Schumer to take out his hanky and wipe away those tears.




The executive order also ends a moratorium launched under Obama on new leases of federal land for coal mining, scraps a measure of the economic impact of climate change used to justify regulation known as the "social cost of carbon" and changes how climate change is considered in federal policy-making......snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/28/tremendous-trump-to-sign-executive-order-targeting-most-of-obamas-climate-change-agenda-n2305053

MMC
03-28-2017, 08:27 AM
Save the Coal Miners !

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQs-mv1trPAhXBeT4KHaQZCQ8QPAgD#hl=en&q=Save+the+Coal+Miners+!&*




http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1490707564/1_uynttf.png

It does.....along with Seniors and their Electric bills. Plus Blacks and Hispanics Jobs. Call BO peep and tell that mope. Take notes this time.

Bad news for climate change boondogglersTrump’s campaign for effective spending is beginning to catch on




Predicting tomorrow’s weather is often a crapshoot. Predicting the weather on a day a century from now is obviously throwing money away. Shoveling cash into schemes for regulating climate patterns generations far in the future is an investment in a fool’s gold mine. President Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/trump/) vows that Americans won’t be fooled again.


His proposed budget for fiscal 2018 “America First” eliminates State Department appropriations that would have gone to the United Nations Green Climate Fund, a favorite charity of Barack Obama’s administration. He says his environmental leadership marked “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal,” and pledged $3 billion to the fund, and made good on the first billion. The Trump budget further deletes the State Department’s annual $6.4 million allocation to U.N. climate change schemes. Mick Mulvaney, the director of Management and Budget, says “we consider that to be a waste of money.”.....snip~


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/27/editorial-bad-news-for-climate-change-boondogglers/

exotix
03-28-2017, 08:31 AM
It does.....along with Seniors and their Electric bills. Plus Blacks and Hispanics Jobs. Call BO peep and tell that mope. Take notes this time.


Excellent, because Coal-Mining and burning contributes a whopping 16% of Americas' energy needs.

MMC
03-28-2017, 08:41 AM
Excellent, because Coal-Mining and burning contributes a whopping 16% of Americas' energy needs.


Ya might want to move out the way.....as Trump is sweeping away a bunch of BO peeps EO's and regulations.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/sweeping-broom-cartoon-up-48589551.jpg


He even has the Euros seeing there is no point in wasting money on a failed BO peep idea. Imagine that.


The winds of climate change restraint are felt overseas as well. Representatives of the Group of 20 nations, meeting in Germany earlier this month, dropped from their final communique an affirmation of efforts to shower more government money on “green” projects. “Climate change,” says one government official, “is out for the time being.”......snip~

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/27/editorial-bad-news-for-climate-change-boondogglers/


Aint that something.....The Euros are taking money advice from Trump

Bo-4
03-28-2017, 08:46 AM
Yeah fun - but dirty coal is dead .. no longer cost effective to go after in comparison to natural gas and renewables.

Bo-4
03-28-2017, 08:47 AM
Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming

It's a Chinese conspiracy - that's what i heard ;-)

MMC
03-28-2017, 08:56 AM
It's a Chinese conspiracy - that's what i heard ;-)

Is that what you heard. Got that from your Russian connections, huh?


First you were cheering about BO peep having a pen and a phone. Now you're upset that Trump has outdone BO peep saying he has a Phone and Twitter.

The peep.....my phone and I can reach several people. Trump and I can reach 20 million with Twitter. :laugh:

exotix
03-28-2017, 08:57 AM
It's a Chinese conspiracy - that's what i heard ;-)
I love the smell of Benzene in the Morning !




Benzene in Coal Mining

http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/benzene/coal-mining/


World Study of Benzene from Coal 2015

http://www.argusmedia.com/petrochemicals/world-study-of-benzene-from-coal-2015/

stjames1_53
03-28-2017, 09:05 AM
Every Insane Thing Donald Trump Has Said About Global Warming


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/11/trump-climate-timeline


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-image/trumpworldhair.jpg

let's see, if your educated, tell me how long this planet has been changing..............
Why did the Sahara rainforest disappear?
I bet you feel O2 has been around since the first meteor hit this ball of dirt.

MMC
03-28-2017, 09:06 AM
I love the smell of Benzene in the Morning !




Benzene in Coal Mining

http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/benzene/coal-mining/


World Study of Benzene from Coal 2015

http://www.argusmedia.com/petrochemicals/world-study-of-benzene-from-coal-2015/

I thought you loved the smell of Ben Gay, now you say its Benzene, huh?


The green lobby and its subsidy-suckling friends in industry who celebrated President Barack Obama's unilateral climate actions will take a loss on Tuesday when President Trump begins undoing the previous administration's emissions rules.


The Clean Power Plan was a naked executive overreach riding on the back of alarmist manipulation of climate science. Anyone concerned with good government, the energy sector, or sound science should applaud the administration's actions.


So Democrats opted for the less democratic path of dubious executive action. Obama issued regulations, leaning on the Clean Air Act, that regulate power plants' emissions of carbob dioxide as though it were a pollutant, even though it is plant food — the world is getting greener — and it's also what we breath.


Republican-governed states sued to overturn the rule and succeeded in blocking it temporarily in court. Trump's actions on Tuesday will begin the process of undoing the deceptively euphonious Clean Power Plan.


This action is proper as a matter of constitutional separation of powers. If the federal government is to regulate the emission of carbon dioxide, then Congress should pass a law to regulate the emission of carbon dioxide. But when Democrats had a huge House majority, a filibuster-proof Senate supermajority and a president who pledged to stop the oceans' rise, they still declined to do so. Even in those extraordinary circumstances, the measure cannot be passed democratically. But Obama, never one to trouble himself over the niceties of democratic propriety when it stands in the way of his agenda, shoved it down the country's throat anyway.


Maybe Democrats should campaign on such regulations in 2018 and 2020 and see if the voters like the idea of making electricity and everything else manufactured in America more expensive. We suspect they won't, because they know voters won't buy it. Most polls show that the public is concerned about climate change (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/section/climate-change) but not enough to pay a lot more for energy......snip~


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kill-the-lawless-baseless-clean-power-plan/article/2618605

stjames1_53
03-28-2017, 09:06 AM
It's a Chinese conspiracy - that's what i heard ;-)

then get your head out of the septic tank

Bo-4
03-28-2017, 09:10 AM
Is that what you heard. Got that from your Russian connections, huh?

First you were cheering about BO peep having a pen and a phone. Now you're upset that Trump has outdone BO peep saying he has a Phone and Twitter.

The peep.....my phone and I can reach several people. Trump and I can reach 20 million with Twitter. :laugh:

Yeah, 20 million - half of which are loons representing maybe 8% of the voting public.

The other half being people such as myself who simply want a good laugh :cool2:

exotix
03-28-2017, 09:11 AM
let's see, if your educated, tell me how long this planet has been changing..............

Why did the Sahara rainforest disappear?
I bet you feel O2 has been around since the first meteor hit this ball of dirt.Here you go ...


2/14/2010 ~ Trump changes his mind, says Gore should be stripped of Nobel Prize because it's cold outside.

According to the New York Post, Trump had changed his tune by early 2010, telling an audience at one of his golf clubs (http://pagesix.com/2010/02/14/trump-cool-to-global-warning/), "With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E0a_60PMR8

MMC
03-28-2017, 09:18 AM
Yeah, 20 million - half of which are loons representing maybe 8% of the voting public.

The other half being people such as myself who simply want a good laugh :cool2:

Oh the illiberals......an even smaller voting bloc of the public that can even equal 2% Milk. :laugh:

Peter1469
03-28-2017, 04:23 PM
What Trump did was ask the executive agencies to look at the recent rule changes that were likely beyond Obama's authority to make.

del
03-28-2017, 04:55 PM
What Trump did was ask the executive agencies to look at the recent rule changes that were likely beyond Obama's authority to make.
false

hanger4
03-28-2017, 05:10 PM
false

How so ?? From the NPR link;

"Trump will order a review of that and a number of other climate efforts,"

del
03-28-2017, 05:14 PM
How so ?? From the NPR link;

"Trump will order a review of that and a number of other climate efforts,"


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/trump-climate-eo/520986/

hanger4
03-28-2017, 05:28 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/trump-climate-eo/520986/

So, NPR lied ?? Or did they actually read the EO;

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/28/presidential-executive-order-promoting-energy-independence-and-economi-1

and report the truth ??

del
03-28-2017, 06:21 PM
So, NPR lied ?? Or did they actually read the EO;

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/28/presidential-executive-order-promoting-energy-independence-and-economi-1

and report the truth ??
after reading the npr piece, i suspect an inability to read and comprehend what was reported and/or cherrypicking is more likely than npr lying.

hanger4
03-28-2017, 06:28 PM
after reading the npr piece, i suspect an inability to read and comprehend what was reported and/or cherrypicking is more likely than npr lying.

Nope, this pretty much sums it up;

"The major regulation targeted by the executive order is the Clean Power Plan, Obama's signature climate measure that restricts greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants.

Trump will order a review of that and a number of other climate efforts, including:

a federal moratorium on coal leasing
a measure that requires federal agencies to consider climate change during their rule-making process
the "social cost of carbon," which puts a dollar figure on carbon pollution".

BTW, you really should read the actual EO.

del
03-28-2017, 06:53 PM
as i said earlier, an inabiltiy to comprehend what was read or cherrypicking


Trump's order to lift the moratorium should take immediate effect, allowing the Bureau of Land Management to issue new coal leases on federal lands.


The second-largest shift in U.S. policy will have far more immediate implications. Trump will decree that agencies across the federal government no longer have to account for climate change when reporting on the environmental impact of an action or project.


Trump appears to be trying to neuter the policy by directing the EPA to lower that cost to the point where it won't have much weight in policy-making. An all-out elimination of the cost would likely have left the administration with weaker legal standing (http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2016/D08-08/C:14-2159:J:Ripple:aut:T:fnOp:N:1807496:S:0) should it be challenged in court.


Specifically, the order rescinds at least six Obama-era executive orders aimed at curbing climate change and regulating carbon emissions, including Obama's November 2013 executive order (https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/01/executive-order-preparing-united-states-impacts-climate-change) instructing the federal government to prepare for the impact of climate change and the September 2016 presidential memorandum that outlined the "growing threat to national security" that climate change poses.

rescind =/= review

Bo-4
03-28-2017, 06:56 PM
Nope, this pretty much sums it up;

"The major regulation targeted by the executive order is the Clean Power Plan, Obama's signature climate measure that restricts greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants.

Trump will order a review of that and a number of other climate efforts, including:

a federal moratorium on coal leasing
a measure that requires federal agencies to consider climate change during their rule-making process
the "social cost of carbon," which puts a dollar figure on carbon pollution".

BTW, you really should read the actual EO.

Dirty Coal is Dead

For Gawd's Sake hang - read the tea leaves!

MMC
03-29-2017, 07:36 AM
Dirty Coal is Dead

For Gawd's Sake hang - read the tea leaves!

Actually whats Dead.....is Your Special Mans EO's.