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OGIS
03-31-2017, 02:29 PM
Even if it happens this could still take another 4 to 8 years to get to, what with legal challenges, and all. (A ConCon has the potential to change the basic, long-established (200+ years) System biases for ownership/control of a lot of the goodies, so expect last ditch no-limits legal efforts to squash it.)

And, if the missteps of the Trump administration continue, an open convention in a post-Trump era would, imho, have some unpleasant surprises in store for conservatives.

One thing I will certainly do if a convention seems likely is buy popcorn futures.

And make sure I have alternate passports.



Koch Brothers Bankroll Move to Rewrite the ConstitutionA constitutional convention, something thought impossible not long ago, is looking increasingly likely. By Alex Kotch (http://billmoyers.com/author/alexkotch/) | March 27, 2017


A constitutional convention, something thought impossible not long ago, is looking increasingly likely. Under Article V of the US Constitution, if 34 state legislatures “issue a call” for a constitutional convention, Congress must convene one. By some counts, the right wing only needs six more states. Once called, delegates can propose and vote on changes and new amendments to the US Constitution, which, if approved, are currently required to be ratified by 38 states.

There are two major legislative pushes for a convention at the state level. One would attempt to engineer a convention for a balanced budget amendment only, and the other tries to secure an open convention for the purpose of limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government. But once a convention is underway, all bets are off. The convention can write its own rules, resulting in a wide-open or “runaway” convention that can make major changes to the constitution and, some argue, even change the number of states required to ratify those changes.

If America gets saddled with a runaway convention, the Koch coterie of funders will be to blame. Most of the groups pushing the convention idea are being underwritten by one or more institutions tied to billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch.


http://billmoyers.com/story/kochs-to-rewrite-constitution/

MisterVeritis
03-31-2017, 02:32 PM
I am unaware of any movement to call a Constitutional Convention. You mischaracterized the Article V convention of states movement. Ten states have petitioned the Congress. We need 24 more states. Then we shall have a convention of the states to propose amendments to the Constitution under the Constitution's article V.

DGUtley
03-31-2017, 02:37 PM
I asked for proposals: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/80868-List-of-Possible-Constitutional-Amendments/page4?highlight=amendments

MisterVeritis
03-31-2017, 02:39 PM
I asked for proposals: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/80868-List-of-Possible-Constitutional-Amendments/page4?highlight=amendments
The Liberty Amendments (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO4IP5M/) is an excellent starting point.

OGIS
03-31-2017, 02:39 PM
I am unaware of any movement to call a Constitutional Convention. You mischaracterized the Article V convention of states movement. Ten states have petitioned the Congress. We need 24 more states. Then we shall have a convention of the states to propose amendments to the Constitution under the Constitution's article V.

So the article is totally fabricated?

MisterVeritis
03-31-2017, 02:41 PM
So the article is totally fabricated?
Yes. The author had no clue what he was talking about. Interestingly, he could have spent two hours on the convention of states website (https://www.conventionofstates.com/) and had his facts.

DGUtley
03-31-2017, 02:45 PM
The Liberty Amendments (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO4IP5M/) is an excellent starting point.

Read it.

MisterVeritis
03-31-2017, 02:47 PM
Read it.
Me too.

Newpublius
03-31-2017, 04:33 PM
Even if it happens this could still take another 4 to 8 years to get to, what with legal challenges, and all. (A ConCon has the potential to change the basic, long-established (200+ years) System biases for ownership/control of a lot of the goodies, so expect last ditch no-limits legal efforts to squash it.)

And, if the missteps of the Trump administration continue, an open convention in a post-Trump era would, imho, have some unpleasant surprises in store for conservatives.

One thing I will certainly do if a convention seems likely is buy popcorn futures.

And make sure I have alternate passports.

Legal challenges? A convention is a convention, what emanates from the convention is merely a proposal.