Crowdstrike Amends Hacking Report

[Ethereal]

Cyber Firm Rewrites Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report (http://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report/3781411.html)

WASHINGTON — U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.

In December, CrowdStrike said it found evidence that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, contributing to heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine's war with pro-Russian separatists.

VOA reported Tuesday that the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), which publishes an annual reference estimating the strength of world armed forces, disavowed the CrowdStrike report and said it had never been contacted by the company.

Ukraine's Ministry of Defense also has stated that the combat losses and hacking never happened.

[...]

Crowdstrike, the cybersecurity firm whose report was used to support allegations of Russia hacking the election, misrepresented key facts and was forced to amend their report. Whether it was the result of sloppiness or intentional dishonesty remains to be seen.

[Ethereal]

A Cyber-Gulf of Tonkin (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/03/30/a-cyber-gulf-of-tonkin/)

There was no “Russian hacking” of the 2016 election

by Justin Raimondo, March 31, 2017

The “cyber-security” firm that everyone is depending on to make the case for Russia’s alleged “hacking” of the 2016 presidential election, CrowdStrike, has just retracted a key component of its analysis – but the “mainstream” media continues to chug along, ignoring any facts that contradict their preferred narrative.

As Voice of America – hardly an instrument of Russian propaganda! – reports:

“U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year’s American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.”

This retraction pulls the rug out from under CrowdStrike’s identification of the hacking group that supposedly broke into the Democratic National Committee’s server. Last year, the company announced that “Fancy Bear” – the name they gave to the hackers – had used identical tools and methods to hack into software used by the Ukrainian military, an act they claimed led to the destruction of 80% of the Ukrainians’ howitzers in their war with rebel forces. Up until that point, CrowdStrike had merely “suspected” that the Russians were behind the DNC hack. However, given the Ukrainian “evidence,” combined with the assumption that the rebels are “Russian-backed,” CrowdStrike head honcho Dmitri Alpervovitch told the Washington Post: “Now we have high confidence it was a unit of the GRU,” i.e. Russian military intelligence.

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There are two agendas at work here.

The military-industrial complex agenda, which seeks to reignite the cold war as a means of increasing their wealth and power.

And the partisan Democrat agenda, which seeks to destroy their political opponents by any means necessary.

They are basically in a symbiotic relationship right now.

And neither of these factions care if what they're doing increases the chances of a nuclear war between the USA and Russia. As long as their selfish desires are furthered, then it's worth the cost.

[Ethereal]

Wow.

So one of the most important pieces of "evidence" used to prop up these Russian conspiracy theories was misrepresenting key facts and nobody has anything to say?

[resister]

Wow.

So one of the most important pieces of "evidence" used to prop up these Russian conspiracy theories was misrepresenting key facts and nobody has anything to say?
Of course not, it does not support the narrative swallowed as gospel!....:f_run:

[Casper]

There are two agendas at work here.

The military-industrial complex agenda, which seeks to reignite the cold war as a means of increasing their wealth and power.

And the partisan Democrat agenda, which seeks to destroy their political opponents by any means necessary.

They are basically in a symbiotic relationship right now.

And neither of these factions care if what they're doing increases the chances of a nuclear war between the USA and Russia. As long as their selfish desires are furthered, then it's worth the cost.
Two questions:
Who is that is wanting to increase military spending and build more nukes?

Is the partisan Dem agenda pretty much the same as the partisan GOP agenda?


You won, so what's to worry about, right?

[resister]

Why address the thread when deflecting is so much more convenient ?

[hanger4]

I've always wondered why the FBI CIA et all relied solely upon CrowdStrike and not do their own forinsic analysis of the DNC server/s.

[Hal Jordan]

I've always wondered why the FBI CIA et all relied solely upon CrowdStrike and not do their own forinsic analysis of the DNC server/s.

Maybe they did, but it didn't support the narrative.

[Hal Jordan]

Two questions:
Who is that is wanting to increase military spending and build more nukes?

Is the partisan Dem agenda pretty much the same as the partisan GOP agenda?


You won, so what's to worry about, right? Ethereal won? He's President now? So Trump/Pence is out? Good job on that, President Ethereal!

[DGUtley]

Nothing to see here subject.... move along.

[Tahuyaman]

Why address the thread when deflecting is so much more convenient ?

Lately that seems to be his default position.

[Mister D]

Wow.

So one of the most important pieces of "evidence" used to prop up these Russian conspiracy theories was misrepresenting key facts and nobody has anything to say?
They assure me that eventually "the truth will come out" but it looks like the story just evaporated.

[Bethere]

They assure me that eventually "the truth will come out" but it looks like the story just evaporated.

Youll hear this story every day of the trump presidency. The man sold out his country to a foreign power. In 1000 years children will know his name as we know names like maximus thrax and caligula.

[resister]

Youll hear this story every day of the trump presidency.17760
LAWLz

[Subdermal]

Wow.

So one of the most important pieces of "evidence" used to prop up these Russian conspiracy theories was misrepresenting key facts and nobody has anything to say?

We've experienced an unassailable trend when observing leftists in this forum. When something challenges their orthodoxy, they insult, deride, kill the messenger, smear and atttack.

Or ignore.

[Subdermal]

I've always wondered why the FBI CIA et all relied solely upon CrowdStrike and not do their own forinsic analysis of the DNC server/s.

Because they desired the insulation.

[Subdermal]

Youll hear this story every day of the trump presidency. The man sold out his country to a foreign power. In 1000 years children will know his name as we know names like maximus thrax and caligula.

'Nuf said.

[resister]

We've experienced an unassailable trend when observing leftists in this forum. When something challenges their othrodoxy, they insult, deride, kill the messenger, smear and atttack.

Or ignore.
Don't forget, straight up haul ass!

[Tahuyaman]

All of this hysteria over the Russians and hacking is based only on a report by Crowdstrike. No US intelligence agency has conducted any forensic examination at all. We are just accepting the word of people from Crowdstrike.





http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/312767-fbi-never-examined-hacked-dnc-servers-report

FBI never examined hacked DNC servers itself: report

The FBI never examined the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) computer servers during its investigation into Russian attempts to interfere in the presidential election, BuzzFeed (https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/the-fbi-never-asked-for-access-to-hacked-computer-servers?utm_term=.oc4QYnEXG#.lsKR9L3jG) reports.
“The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI’s Cyber Division and its Washington (D.C.) Field Office, the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, and U.S. Attorney’s Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers,” DNC deputy communications director Eric Walker told BuzzFeed in an email.
According to one intelligence official who spoke to the publication, no U.S. intelligence agency has performed its own forensics analysis on the hacked servers.

[Ethereal]

Who is that is wanting to increase military spending and build more nukes?

I already said: The military-industrial complex.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y


Is the partisan Dem agenda pretty much the same as the partisan GOP agenda?

Essentially, yes.


You won, so what's to worry about, right?

That's your third question, and it's based on the erroneous assumption that I'm a Trump supporter. I know this may be difficult to grasp, but criticizing Democrats does not make one a Republican, nor does criticizing Republicans make one a Democrat. Someone can criticize Democrats or Republicans for reasons having nothing to do with partisan loyalty to a political party. That this even needs to be explained is quite said, albeit predictable.

[Ethereal]

@Ethereal (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=870) won? He's President now? So Trump/Pence is out? Good job on that, President Ethereal!
I am a generous president... :smiley:

[Subdermal]

Wut?

No commentary from a single leftist on a real story which challenges their orthodoxy?

Knock me over with a feather.

[Subdermal]

Look over there! Don't pay attention to all the scandals in the whitehouse, look at this! Forget about trump, look over there!!

[Ethereal]

They didn't comment on these stories either...



Clinton Ally Says Smoke, But No Fire: No Russia-Trump Collusion (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-ally-says-smoke-no-fire-no-russia-trump-collusion-n734176)

by KEN DILANIAN

Former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell, who endorsed Hillary Clinton and called Donald Trump a dupe of Russia, cast doubt Wednesday night on allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.

Morell, who was in line to become CIA director if Clinton won, said he had seen no evidence that Trump associates cooperated with Russians. He also raised questions about the dossier written by a former British intelligence officer, which alleged a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.

His comments were in sharp contrast to those of many Clinton partisans — such as former communications director Jennifer Palmieri — who have stated publicly they believe the Trump campaign cooperated with Russia's efforts to interfere in the election against Clinton.

Morell said he had learned that the former officer, Christopher Steele, paid his key Russian sources, and interviewed them through intermediaries.

"On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire, at all," Morell said at an event sponsored by the Cipher Brief, an intelligence web site.

"There's no little campfire, there's no little candle, there's no spark. And there's a lot of people looking for it."

[...]


Inside The Investigation To Get To The Bottom Of Russia’s Role In The Election (https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/the-people-investigating-russias-role-in-the-election-worry?utm_term=.lk5PPMBwNm#.be6NNaEgn8)

The Senate Intelligence Committee has been given sweeping powers, unseen since the Watergate era, to investigate Russian meddling in the US election. As its scope grows to include suspected ties between the Trump camp and Russia, investigators are starting to worry politics have overhyped the probe.

Ali Watkins
BuzzFeed News Reporter

WASHINGTON — Over the last month, Tuesday and Thursday afternoons in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s normally quiet hallway have devolved into a blinding media circus. Dozens of TV reporters and cameras line up outside the committee’s frosted glass doors, mobbing each of the panel’s 15 lawmakers as they make their way to the secure hearing space. Microphones and spotlights in hand, the reporters shout questions on Russia and alleged connections to the Trump administration.

A month into its sweeping investigation into the Kremlin’s efforts to undermine the US election, the Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to answer all those questions — publicly, coherently, and fast. As the days tick by, they’re less and less sure they’ll be able to.

Even some Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives, though investigators have only just begun reviewing raw intelligence. Among the Intelligence Committee’s rank and file, there’s a tangible frustration over what one official called “wildly inflated” expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation.

Since the probe was first announced in December — days after the FBI and CIA told Congress they believed the Kremlin had worked to elect Trump — political infighting has fundamentally shifted its mandate. Instead of a surgically precise examination of the raw intelligence that led US agencies to conclude the Kremlin attempted to tilt the election, the Intelligence Committee investigation has quickly become the catch-all for any politician’s lingering questions related to Moscow. Now, several committee sources grudgingly say, it feels as though the investigation will be seen as a sham if the Senate doesn’t find a silver bullet connecting Trump and Russian intelligence operatives.

“I don’t think the conclusions are going to meet people’s expectations,” a second official said.

[...]

[Bethere]

They didn't comment on these stories either...

We don't jump through hoops. That's your job.

[hanger4]

We don't jump through hoops. That's your job.

But you do ignore tangible evidence.

[Ethereal]

We don't jump through hoops. That's your job.
That's nice.

*pats head*

[Ethereal]

The lack of response is quite telling.

[Mister D]

Youll hear this story every day of the trump presidency. The man sold out his country to a foreign power. In 1000 years children will know his name as we know names like maximus thrax and caligula.
You were also telling us Hillary would be POTUS so...lol

[Ethereal]

You were also telling us Hillary would be POTUS so...lol
Yes, but when Democrats make bold and repeated declarations that turn out to be untrue, they just move on and act like it never happened. If they actually stopped and reflected every time they were wrong about something, the Democrat party would collapse in a month or two. Denial is essential to the perpetuation of their party.

[Subdermal]

The lack of response is quite telling.

It tells us that they are the enemy: one which is not interested in the truth at all; just power.

[Subdermal]

We don't jump through hoops. That's your job.

Honest commentary would appear to feel like 'jumping through hoops' for you, doubtless...

[Tahuyaman]

Crowdstrike is partly owned and operated by a Ukranian who is fiercely anti-Russia.