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[Ethereal]

...this is the argument being used by people on the left and right to buttress their claim that Assad's forces were responsible for the recent chemical incident in Syria.

In other words, it must be true because government officials say so.

This is easily the dumbest, most mindless rationale anyone could possibly come up.

I suppose it never occurred to these people that government officials can be dishonest or mistaken or both?

And it's not like there isn't historical precedent for that type of thing. There was the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was exaggerated and misrepresented by the government; there was Saddam, his WMD, and the constant association with 9/11; and there was the last chemical attack in Syria, which was probably committed by AQ or ISIS in a false flag attack.

How many times do these warmongers have to be caught exaggerating, misrepresenting, or outright lying before their word isn't good enough?

[FindersKeepers]

...this is the argument being used by people on the left and right to buttress their claim that Assad's forces were responsible for the recent chemical incident in Syria.

In other words, it must be true because government officials say so.

This is easily the dumbest, most mindless rationale anyone could possibly come up.

I suppose it never occurred to these people that government officials can be dishonest or mistaken or both?

And it's not like there isn't historical precedent for that type of thing. There was the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was exaggerated and misrepresented by the government; there was Saddam, his WMD, and the constant association with 9/11; and there was the last chemical attack in Syria, which was probably committed by AQ or ISIS in a false flag attack.

How many times do these warmongers have to be caught exaggerating, misrepresenting, or outright lying before their word isn't good enough?

Given the result of previous investigations and current Syrian activities, I'd say there's a good chance that the gas wasn't from Assad. Odds are that we'll never know for sure, but there is a group, not just in the US, that's been wanting to see us move against Assad. As I mentioned before, we should probably revisit the policy of rating chemical weapons attacks as war crimes worthy of us stepping in. That kind of policy can be maneuvered to suit the desires of others.

[Ethereal]

Given the result of previous investigations and current Syrian activities, I'd say there's a good chance that the gas wasn't from Assad. Odds are that we'll never know for sure, but there is a group, not just in the US, that's been wanting to see us move against Assad. As I mentioned before, we should probably revisit the policy of rating chemical weapons attacks as war crimes worthy of us stepping in. That kind of policy can be maneuvered to suit the desires of others.

Nobody has been able to give me a reasonable explanation as to why Syrian forces would use chemical weaponry at this point. They have all but won the war using nothing but conventional weaponry. Using chemical weaponry would be utterly irrational and self-destructive. Moreover, Russian forces are advising and assisting the Syrians and it's unthinkable that they would have let something like this happen. The more plausible explanation is that this was some kind of a false flag attack committed by the rebels OR Syrian forces unknowingly bombed a chemical weapons cache. The official version simply makes NO SENSE.

[NapRover]

Nobody has been able to give me a reasonable explanation as to why Syrian forces would use chemical weaponry at this point. They have all but won the war using nothing but conventional weaponry. Using chemical weaponry would be utterly irrational and self-destructive. Moreover, Russian forces are advising and assisting the Syrians and it's unthinkable that they would have let something like this happen. The more plausible explanation is that this was some kind of a false flag attack committed by the rebels OR Syrian forces unknowingly bombed a chemical weapons cache. The official version simply makes NO SENSE.
Your points are well taken.
Like ambassor Haley said today, they did because they figured Russia would have their back and there'd be no consequences.

[Tahuyaman]

This claim that they have all but won the war is not supported by the reality of the current situation.

Still if only two forces have the capability of delivering an attack in the method in which it was delivered, you must acknowledge that one of those two forces was responsible.

[Ethereal]

Your points are well taken.
Like ambassor Haley said today, they did because they figured Russia would have their back and there'd be no consequences.

That still doesn't make any sense.

[The Xl]

...this is the argument being used by people on the left and right to buttress their claim that Assad's forces were responsible for the recent chemical incident in Syria.

In other words, it must be true because government officials say so.

This is easily the dumbest, most mindless rationale anyone could possibly come up.

I suppose it never occurred to these people that government officials can be dishonest or mistaken or both?

And it's not like there isn't historical precedent for that type of thing. There was the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was exaggerated and misrepresented by the government; there was Saddam, his WMD, and the constant association with 9/11; and there was the last chemical attack in Syria, which was probably committed by AQ or ISIS in a false flag attack.

How many times do these warmongers have to be caught exaggerating, misrepresenting, or outright lying before their word isn't good enough?

The government lies on these sorts of matters all the time. It's been proven time and time again. But call out habitual liars on their lies and you're a conspiracy theorist, whatever that even means anymore. It's like these psychopaths are walking around with a goddamn halo over their head or some shit.

[Ethereal]

How Assad Is Winning (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/02/23/how-assad-is-winning/)


Syria’s Civil War Is Over—Russia Won (http://observer.com/2016/10/syrias-civil-war-is-over-russia-won/)

All the momentum was on Assad's side. There was ZERO incentive for him to use chemical weaponry, ESPECIALLY when the Trump administration had JUST SAID we have to learn to live with Assad. WHY would he use chemical weapons at such an inopportune moment when conventional weaponry could have achieved the exact same objective?

[resister]

It would be a mistake to assume that a dictator would act in a rational manner. They tend not to tolerate dissent.

[NapRover]

That still doesn't make any sense.
Lets hear your theory.

[Private Pickle]

All the momentum was on Assad's side. There was ZERO incentive for him to use chemical weaponry, ESPECIALLY when the Trump administration had JUST SAID we have to learn to live with Assad. WHY would he use chemical weapons at such an inopportune moment when conventional weaponry could have achieved the exact same objective?

“Militarily, there is no need,” said Bente Scheller, the Middle East director of the Berlin-based Heinrich Böll Foundation. “But it spreads the message: You are at our mercy. Don’t ask for international law. You see, it doesn’t protect even a child.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-russia-sarin-attack.html

[Ethereal]

Lets hear your theory.

There are two other explanations that aren't being explored.

1. The rebels themselves are responsible, i.e., a false flag.
2. Assad's forces dropped a conventional weapon on a chemical weapons cache.

Either of these explanations are much more logical than the one being offered up to us by the government and the media.

[Ethereal]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-russia-sarin-attack.html
That is nonsensical. There was no threat of international involvement UNTIL chemical weaponry was used.

[MisterVeritis]

This claim that they have all but won the war is not supported by the reality of the current situation.

Still if only two forces have the capability of delivering an attack in the method in which it was delivered, you must acknowledge that one of those two forces was responsible.
You don't even know if an attack was delivered. All you know is a few civilians were killed by some kind of chemical weapon.

[Ethereal]

You don't even know if an attack was delivered. All you know is a few civilians were killed by some kind of chemical weapon.
You should know by now that when Tahu arrives at a conclusion, he does not budge an inch no matter how tenuous his position may be. You might as well argue with a brick wall.

[Ethereal]

Ex-UK ambassador to Syria: 'No proof' of chemical attack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04zb6yv)

[Private Pickle]

That is nonsensical. There was no threat of international involvement UNTIL chemical weaponry was used.

Remember the "Red Line" that was crossed and nothing was done about it? It emboldened Assad...

[donttread]

...this is the argument being used by people on the left and right to buttress their claim that Assad's forces were responsible for the recent chemical incident in Syria.

In other words, it must be true because government officials say so.

This is easily the dumbest, most mindless rationale anyone could possibly come up.

I suppose it never occurred to these people that government officials can be dishonest or mistaken or both?

And it's not like there isn't historical precedent for that type of thing. There was the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was exaggerated and misrepresented by the government; there was Saddam, his WMD, and the constant association with 9/11; and there was the last chemical attack in Syria, which was probably committed by AQ or ISIS in a false flag attack.

How many times do these warmongers have to be caught exaggerating, misrepresenting, or outright lying before their word isn't good enough?

It's a really study in psychology as to why the merican people believe anyhing their government has to say after all the lies, deciet and spying. But just like the spouse who's been cheated on 6 times before believes their hubby or wife is "working late again" the sheep practically begged to be lied to

[Peter1469]

The videos that were released do not show people suffering from sarin gas.

[Green Arrow]

More importantly, who the fuck cares? Unless they attacked American interests it's completely meaningless to us.

[Dangermouse]

There are two other explanations that aren't being explored.

1. The rebels themselves are responsible, i.e., a false flag.
2. Assad's forces dropped a conventional weapon on a chemical weapons cache.

Either of these explanations are much more logical than the one being offered up to us by the government and the media.

Deeply unpatriotic nonsense.

[Ethereal]

Deeply unpatriotic nonsense.

You wouldn't know patriotism if it slapped you in the face.

[Green Arrow]

Deeply unpatriotic nonsense.

Because...?