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KathyS
05-03-2017, 03:42 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”
“This course explores why and how this happened, how Trump’s rhetoric is contrary to the foundation of the U.S. democracy, and what his win means for the future,” reads (http://legacy.butler.edu/course-search/) a description on Butler’s website, first reported (https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/butler-university-offers-outrageous-anti-trump-course-provides-strategies-for-resistance) Wednesday by The Heartland Institute. “The course will also discuss, and potentially engage in, strategies for resistance.”
SEE ALSO: Harvard’s ‘progressive graduate students’ start ‘Resistance School’ for stopping Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/)

The class will be instructed by Professor Ann M. Savage of the university’s Critical Communication and Media Studies department.

“A review by The Heartland Institute of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way that could balance out the course taught by Savage,” the Illinois-based think tank added (https://heartland.org/).
Butler’s class echoes the work of a similar (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/) “Resistance School” at Harvard University, the brainchild of distraught professors and graduate students.
Harvard’s four-session tutorial was proctored by graduate students and ran from April 5-27.
“On November 8, we lost more than just the presidency,” the group’s website says (https://www.resistanceschool.com/who-we-are-5/). “We lost yet more ground in the decades-long campaign against progressive values. Republicans now control the Senate, House, and more state legislatures than they have in almost 200 years. Those losses have emboldened the right to launch an all-out attack against our nation’s creed — that all are created equal.”

Abby08
05-03-2017, 04:28 PM
I almost want to laugh! I think I will... hahahaha!

People are still so butt hurt, they still can't get over darling Hillary losing to the likes of Trump, they'll do anything to discredit and smear him, even sinking to this depth.

Any parents who have strong, moral centers, would protest this being taught in a school which they are paying 36,000 a year, for their kids to attend.

This truly is the age of, anything goes.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 04:30 PM
Defund

Bethere
05-03-2017, 04:41 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”
“This course explores why and how this happened, how Trump’s rhetoric is contrary to the foundation of the U.S. democracy, and what his win means for the future,” reads (http://legacy.butler.edu/course-search/) a description on Butler’s website, first reported (https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/butler-university-offers-outrageous-anti-trump-course-provides-strategies-for-resistance) Wednesday by The Heartland Institute. “The course will also discuss, and potentially engage in, strategies for resistance.”
SEE ALSO: Harvard’s ‘progressive graduate students’ start ‘Resistance School’ for stopping Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/)

The class will be instructed by Professor Ann M. Savage of the university’s Critical Communication and Media Studies department.

“A review by The Heartland Institute of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way that could balance out the course taught by Savage,” the Illinois-based think tank added (https://heartland.org/).
Butler’s class echoes the work of a similar (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/) “Resistance School” at Harvard University, the brainchild of distraught professors and graduate students.
Harvard’s four-session tutorial was proctored by graduate students and ran from April 5-27.
“On November 8, we lost more than just the presidency,” the group’s website says (https://www.resistanceschool.com/who-we-are-5/). “We lost yet more ground in the decades-long campaign against progressive values. Republicans now control the Senate, House, and more state legislatures than they have in almost 200 years. Those losses have emboldened the right to launch an all-out attack against our nation’s creed — that all are created equal.”


Private school.

Standing Wolf
05-03-2017, 04:45 PM
Private school.

Sue them for libel. :rollseyes:

KathyS
05-03-2017, 04:48 PM
Will this set a precedent for schools to offer courses to teach students to resist whomever is in office at the time? IMO, it's a slippery slope.

If a university offered a class that studied (for example) the damage caused by the Obama administration and to resist the next liberal who takes office, the outcry would be deafening.

Common Sense
05-03-2017, 04:50 PM
Meh. Don't take the class.

Common
05-03-2017, 04:50 PM
Private school.

Shitbag school

Ransom
05-03-2017, 04:54 PM
Meh. Don't take the class.

Exactly your response should a class be given on Obama charging him with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism."

Oops.

Bethere
05-03-2017, 04:56 PM
Meh. Don't take the class.

The prof is a real cutie. Fox news material.

Safety
05-03-2017, 05:21 PM
Meh. Don't take the class.

They shit the bed because Coulter didn't speak at a college, now they shit the bed because they don't like a private school's choice of classes to offer.

F'king ironic.

Abby08
05-03-2017, 05:24 PM
The prof is a real cutie. Fox news material.

Is that all you think about? Lol!

Bethere
05-03-2017, 05:26 PM
Sue them for libel. :rollseyes:

Park one of dem dare armadas 12 miles away just to keep 'em alert.

Chris
05-03-2017, 05:26 PM
Private school.

Perhaps these bastions of liberalism are hurtin' for cash.

Tahuyaman
05-03-2017, 06:17 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”...


Why not?


After all, more and more people are graduating with degrees which have no value in the real world. It's almost like people are going to college to remain in academia their entire life.


Trump Derangement Disprder is out of control.

Tahuyaman
05-03-2017, 06:22 PM
Perhaps these bastions of liberalism are hurtin' for cash.


Not really. The ones hurting are the businesses which rely on employing these students after graduation. Kids are not being educated in the fields which matter out in the real world.

KathyS
05-03-2017, 07:47 PM
exactly your response should a class be given on obama charging him with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism."

oops.


yes!!!!

Green Arrow
05-03-2017, 09:18 PM
This is stupid, but at the same time, if that's what people want to waste $36k on that's their business.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 09:21 PM
This is stupid, but at the same time, if that's what people want to waste $36k on that's their business.

So, do you think if a private college offered a "how to fight O'bama" class would the LWing-o-sphere have shut it down?

Green Arrow
05-03-2017, 09:22 PM
So, do you think if a private college offered a "how to fight O'bama" class would the LWing-o-sphere have shut it down?

Probably.

exotix
05-03-2017, 09:30 PM
I took 'The History of Rock 'n Roll' as an elective in college ... it never occurred to me before that all Rock is derived from Beethoven's 9th ... man what a great education ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif



How the World's First Rock Star Changed Music Forever


http://mentalfloss.com/article/65005/beethoven-worlds-first-rock-star



http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/beethovenprimary.png

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 09:41 PM
I was a business major but I took a couple off-the-wall electives.

Greek mythology - the textbook was a paperback of Greek myths. The class was great until the instructor had a heart attack and the "fill-in" dropped Orestes on us, I almost choked on it.

Took Calc II and III - blew the fuck out of me, I'll never be the same. And advanced chemistry.

In hindsight I wish I went into the sciences, I would have done well had I been prepared for it.

Bethere
05-03-2017, 09:59 PM
I took 'The History of Rock 'n Roll' as an elective in college ... it never occurred to me before that all Rock is derived from Beethoven's 9th ... man what a great education ... http://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1478880454/_0_thumbsup_f7svhq.gif



How the World's First Rock Star Changed Music Forever


http://mentalfloss.com/article/65005/beethoven-worlds-first-rock-star



http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/beethovenprimary.png
The Hallelujah Chorus has the same chord progression as Johnny B.Goode--I, IV, V.

Tahuyaman
05-03-2017, 09:59 PM
When these people finish college buried in student debt and can't get a job, they can always transfer into the dependent class.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 10:03 PM
When these people finish college buried in student debt and can't get a job, they can always transfer into the dependent class.

It's why the anti-Trump class is so popular.

Dr. Who
05-03-2017, 10:16 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”
“This course explores why and how this happened, how Trump’s rhetoric is contrary to the foundation of the U.S. democracy, and what his win means for the future,” reads (http://legacy.butler.edu/course-search/) a description on Butler’s website, first reported (https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/butler-university-offers-outrageous-anti-trump-course-provides-strategies-for-resistance) Wednesday by The Heartland Institute. “The course will also discuss, and potentially engage in, strategies for resistance.”
SEE ALSO: Harvard’s ‘progressive graduate students’ start ‘Resistance School’ for stopping Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/)

The class will be instructed by Professor Ann M. Savage of the university’s Critical Communication and Media Studies department.

“A review by The Heartland Institute of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way that could balance out the course taught by Savage,” the Illinois-based think tank added (https://heartland.org/).
Butler’s class echoes the work of a similar (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/) “Resistance School” at Harvard University, the brainchild of distraught professors and graduate students.
Harvard’s four-session tutorial was proctored by graduate students and ran from April 5-27.
“On November 8, we lost more than just the presidency,” the group’s website says (https://www.resistanceschool.com/who-we-are-5/). “We lost yet more ground in the decades-long campaign against progressive values. Republicans now control the Senate, House, and more state legislatures than they have in almost 200 years. Those losses have emboldened the right to launch an all-out attack against our nation’s creed — that all are created equal.”

That's a course? - jeebus, it's like reality TV has infected education. Honestly, why would such a course be useful in any degree program? I guess education is just free enterprise. Caveat emptor to the buyer.

Tahuyaman
05-03-2017, 10:32 PM
It's why the anti-Trump class is so popular.
Trump Derangement Disorder is infecting nearly every aspect of American life.

decedent
05-03-2017, 10:34 PM
"Of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way..."

Wow. It's almost like he's a jerk or something.

Bethere
05-03-2017, 10:36 PM
That's a course? - jeebus, it's like reality TV has infected education. Honestly, why would such a course be useful in any degree program? I guess education is just free enterprise. Caveat emptor to the buyer.

It's a cross discipline course. One of my friends teaches a forensics class in his high school. He teaches chemistry, but they don't have chem 2. So he tricks kids into taking an applied chemistry/biology class replete with labs and problems to solve, and he tricked the school board into funding it.

decedent
05-03-2017, 10:37 PM
That's a course? - jeebus, it's like reality TV has infected education. Honestly, why would such a course be useful in any degree program? I guess education is just free enterprise. Caveat emptor to the buyer.

It seems stupid. The study of populism, demagoguery, and the Trump Effect seems more useful. Trump is just the latest incarnation.

Dr. Who
05-03-2017, 10:55 PM
It's a cross discipline course. One of my friends teaches a forensics class in his high school. He teaches chemistry, but they don't have chem 2. So he tricks kids into taking an applied chemistry/biology class replete with labs and problems to solve, and he tricked the school board into funding it.
OK, but this is post-secondary, so the courses really need to contribute to something useful. Basically, courses that teach you to be a political dissident will never really put food on your table. Your money can be better spent on something that will contribute to your career path. You can learn to be a political dissident for free on the internet. I guess I'm just too practical, in spite of coming from the really revolutionary generation.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 11:05 PM
"Of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way..."

Wow. It's almost like he's a jerk or something.

More likely that Butler University is administered by people like you.

Toilet paper and wipes are probably a material expense on their operational statement.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 11:08 PM
OK, but this is post-secondary, so the courses really need to contribute to something useful. Basically, courses that teach you to be a political dissident will never really put food on your table. Your money can be better spent on something that will contribute to your career path. You can learn to be a political dissident for free on the internet. I guess I'm just too practical, in spite of coming from the really revolutionary generation.

Or your personal enlightenment path.

Kids have the rest of their lives to make their own political positions, getting brainwashed early in life is fucked up.

Learn the basics, learn the core, learn the options, make up your mind on your own.

This simply is nothing more than political indoctrination and it sucks.

Captain Obvious
05-03-2017, 11:09 PM
Nazis did shit like this and it worked and resulted in the hundreds of millions of deaths.

Dr. Who
05-03-2017, 11:16 PM
Or your personal enlightenment path.

Kids have the rest of their lives to make their own political positions, getting brainwashed early in life is fucked up.

Learn the basics, learn the core, learn the options, make up your mind on your own.

This simply is nothing more than political indoctrination and it sucks.

While education is about learning specific skills it is also about learning critical thinking. Fluff courses don't contribute to contribute to either and shouldn't be part of any degree programs. If they are offered, they should be offered as special interest courses to the public.

Bethere
05-04-2017, 01:02 AM
More likely that Butler University is administered by people like you.

Toilet paper and wipes are probably a material expense on their operational statement.

Don't go there.

Bethere
05-04-2017, 01:06 AM
OK, but this is post-secondary, so the courses really need to contribute to something useful. Basically, courses that teach you to be a political dissident will never really put food on your table. Your money can be better spent on something that will contribute to your career path. You can learn to be a political dissident for free on the internet. I guess I'm just too practical, in spite of coming from the really revolutionary generation.

Organizing is a bigtime life skill. There's a lot to it, and I speak from experience. It's useful in any organizational setting.

Anyone can pay someone to act. To identify and persuade people who are willing to act for free?

There's a real skill for you.

I think recent history shows organizers are more ready for the white house than, say, real estate moguls.

Besides. Undergraduate school is a whole different activity for those destined for grad school. It's a place to get exposed to new things. A place to challenge.

College was never intended to be just a vocational school. Someone in every organization needs to be able to think. For those people there are scores of small worldclass universities throughout the midwest.

Butler is one of them.

There are vocational schools and junior colleges for everyone else in every town in America.

donttread
05-04-2017, 06:54 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”
“This course explores why and how this happened, how Trump’s rhetoric is contrary to the foundation of the U.S. democracy, and what his win means for the future,” reads (http://legacy.butler.edu/course-search/) a description on Butler’s website, first reported (https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/butler-university-offers-outrageous-anti-trump-course-provides-strategies-for-resistance) Wednesday by The Heartland Institute. “The course will also discuss, and potentially engage in, strategies for resistance.”
SEE ALSO: Harvard’s ‘progressive graduate students’ start ‘Resistance School’ for stopping Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/)

The class will be instructed by Professor Ann M. Savage of the university’s Critical Communication and Media Studies department.

“A review by The Heartland Institute of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way that could balance out the course taught by Savage,” the Illinois-based think tank added (https://heartland.org/).
Butler’s class echoes the work of a similar (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/) “Resistance School” at Harvard University, the brainchild of distraught professors and graduate students.
Harvard’s four-session tutorial was proctored by graduate students and ran from April 5-27.
“On November 8, we lost more than just the presidency,” the group’s website says (https://www.resistanceschool.com/who-we-are-5/). “We lost yet more ground in the decades-long campaign against progressive values. Republicans now control the Senate, House, and more state legislatures than they have in almost 200 years. Those losses have emboldened the right to launch an all-out attack against our nation’s creed — that all are created equal.”



Wow. Now if they offered such courses against the entire donkephant I'd donnate. It's hysterical that they actually use the word "Demacracy". Which of course is both mob rule and something we are NOT. Better educate the educators first Butler ! Otherwise that 36,000 starts to look like a very poor investment.

Adelaide
05-04-2017, 07:05 AM
I think there are problems with the course description, but it may be an interesting class. It's so current that for anyone who studies history, politics or law it would be a very interesting class to take. It would provide a great format for serious discussion, which would probably get heated.

Adelaide
05-04-2017, 07:09 AM
OK, but this is post-secondary, so the courses really need to contribute to something useful. Basically, courses that teach you to be a political dissident will never really put food on your table. Your money can be better spent on something that will contribute to your career path. You can learn to be a political dissident for free on the internet. I guess I'm just too practical, in spite of coming from the really revolutionary generation.

Many of the classes you take in post-secondary have no real application in real life, and are meant for theory and building skills like critical thinking. This course would probably involve critical thinking, debate skills, and so forth.

It's a great concept for a course, but it shouldn't be aimed at completely attacking Trump and the Republicans. It should be a fair examination without the obvious liberal bias. I would take it if it were not described the way that it is.

DGUtley
05-04-2017, 07:18 AM
College is a time for experiencing so many things. I took all of those classes and was as far left as one could be when I was in college, thanks in large part to my college experiences. I have no problems with it. A huge percentage of these kids will eventually moderate and probably even become Republicans.

FindersKeepers
05-04-2017, 07:21 AM
Will this set a precedent for schools to offer courses to teach students to resist whomever is in office at the time? IMO, it's a slippery slope.

If a university offered a class that studied (for example) the damage caused by the Obama administration and to resist the next liberal who takes office, the outcry would be deafening.

It is a slippery slope, but, more than that, it's a total slide down the hill of respect for the office of the presidency.

We've been seeing it build for the past couple of decades, but it certainly worse today than it was for Obama, GWB, or Bill Clinton.

Respect for authority, in general, is gone, which is pretty sad when you think about it.

When Obama was in office, I saw people acting with a lot of disrespect, but now, I'm seeing people I once thought were stable, thinking individuals, go #totalbatshitcrazy over Trump being in office.

What was once a fine nation built on respect has declined into a spectacle resembling a third-world mass of writhing chaos.

Cthulhu
05-04-2017, 07:25 AM
Meh. Don't take the class.
Seems like a waste of college credits.

But if underwater basket weaving is your major...

Sent from my evil cell phone.

gamewell45
05-04-2017, 12:25 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/3/butler-university-offers-anti-trump-course-with-st/

Students at Indiana’s Butler University will soon learn “strategies for resistance” to oppose President Donald Trump.

Students paying roughly $36,000 in tuition have signed up for a “Special Topics” class titled “Trumpism & U.S. Democracy.” The course, which begins in August and runs until December, explicitly charges the Republican with “perpetuating sexism, white supremacy, xenophobia, nationalism, nativism, and imperialism.”
“This course explores why and how this happened, how Trump’s rhetoric is contrary to the foundation of the U.S. democracy, and what his win means for the future,” reads (http://legacy.butler.edu/course-search/) a description on Butler’s website, first reported (https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/butler-university-offers-outrageous-anti-trump-course-provides-strategies-for-resistance) Wednesday by The Heartland Institute. “The course will also discuss, and potentially engage in, strategies for resistance.”
SEE ALSO: Harvard’s ‘progressive graduate students’ start ‘Resistance School’ for stopping Trump (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/)

The class will be instructed by Professor Ann M. Savage of the university’s Critical Communication and Media Studies department.

“A review by The Heartland Institute of the courses available at Butler University has yet to show any course offerings that present the Trump administration in a positive way that could balance out the course taught by Savage,” the Illinois-based think tank added (https://heartland.org/).
Butler’s class echoes the work of a similar (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/harvards-progressive-graduate-students-start-resis/) “Resistance School” at Harvard University, the brainchild of distraught professors and graduate students.
Harvard’s four-session tutorial was proctored by graduate students and ran from April 5-27.
“On November 8, we lost more than just the presidency,” the group’s website says (https://www.resistanceschool.com/who-we-are-5/). “We lost yet more ground in the decades-long campaign against progressive values. Republicans now control the Senate, House, and more state legislatures than they have in almost 200 years. Those losses have emboldened the right to launch an all-out attack against our nation’s creed — that all are created equal.”

Looks like it's an elective course as opposed to a mandatory course so only those who are interested will sign up for it.

Abby08
05-04-2017, 01:06 PM
Then, they should offer an anti Obama, liberal trashing class, too

.... didn't think so....

The Xl
05-04-2017, 01:21 PM
Gone are the days where someone is more informed and mature after graduating college. It's some weird safe space mental institution laced with leftist propaganda now.

Abby08
05-04-2017, 01:23 PM
Gone are the days where someone is more informed and mature after graduating college. It's some weird safe space mental institution laced with leftist propaganda now.

....and, if you become upset over something Trump said or did, you can get out of taking your exams..... pansies.

donttread
05-04-2017, 05:55 PM
I think there are problems with the course description, but it may be an interesting class. It's so current that for anyone who studies history, politics or law it would be a very interesting class to take. It would provide a great format for serious discussion, which would probably get heated.


Actually I think a netral poli-sci class would do that better

Ransom
05-04-2017, 06:25 PM
College is a time for experiencing so many things. I took all of those classes and was as far left as one could be when I was in college, thanks in large part to my college experiences. I have no problems with it. A huge percentage of these kids will eventually moderate and probably even become Republicans.
Too true. Women were a good example. The young agenda driven women tended to slant Hillary. Those married....those who run households, do budgets, are responsible....went Trump.

decedent
05-04-2017, 07:13 PM
OK, but this is post-secondary, so the courses really need to contribute to something useful. Basically, courses that teach you to be a political dissident will never really put food on your table. Your money can be better spent on something that will contribute to your career path. You can learn to be a political dissident for free on the internet. I guess I'm just too practical, in spite of coming from the really revolutionary generation.


I'd argue that the program is more important than the courses. I took electives that had nothing to do with my major and one of them increased my GPA greatly. I bet many students who take this course aren't even in social science programs.


More likely that Butler University is administered by people like you.

Toilet paper and wipes are probably a material expense on their operational statement.

Careful... your extra chromosome is showing.