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Conley
11-06-2012, 08:52 AM
Every schoolboy used to know that at the height of the empire, almost a quarter of the atlas was coloured pink, showing the extent of British rule.

But that oft recited fact dramatically understates the remarkable global reach achieved by this country.

A new study has found that at various times the British have invaded almost 90 per cent of the countries around the globe.
The analysis of the histories of the almost 200 countries in the world found only 22 which have never experienced an invasion by the British.

Among this select group of nations are far-off destinations such as Guatemala, Tajikistan and the Marshall Islands, as well some slightly closer to home, such as Luxembourg.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html

I guess the good Ol' US of A has some work to do to catch up :grin:

Carygrant
11-06-2012, 10:26 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by this suggestion .
I guess our genes have therefore saved the planet many times .

The nice thing to remember is that we retain so many of these Johnny Foreigners as friends . Quite unlike the American attempt to manipulate the rest of the world to its greed . They have only made enemies and can count nobody as friends .
The British used their Religion for decency and education . The Americans simply use it as a Hate fuel .Both of each other and all outsiders .

Chris
11-06-2012, 10:48 AM
Whatever happened to the British Empire, the one the sun never set on?

Why does imperialism end up failing?

Mister D
11-06-2012, 10:53 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by this suggestion .
I guess our genes have therefore saved the planet many times .

The nice thing to remember is that we retain so many of these Johnny Foreigners as friends . Quite unlike the American attempt to manipulate the rest of the world to its greed . They have only made enemies and can count nobody as friends .
The British used their Religion for decency and education . The Americans simply use it as a Hate fuel .Both of each other and all outsiders .

Which friends would those be? The migrants come looking for money, jobs, and to abuse your welfare state. As for world opinion, you may be liked more than in the past but only because you've become irrelevant. You don't matter. What's not to like? :smiley:

Mister D
11-06-2012, 10:54 AM
Whatever happened to the British Empire, the one the sun never set on?

Why does imperialism end up failing?

It spent itself into failure.

Carygrant
11-06-2012, 12:09 PM
Which friends would those be? The migrants come looking for money, jobs, and to abuse your welfare state. As for world opinion, you may be liked more than in the past but only because you've become irrelevant. You don't matter. What's not to like? :smiley:


Wasting your time with another silly post .

Mister D
11-06-2012, 12:14 PM
Wasting your time with another silly post .

I don't expect you make a substantial reply. We all know that's not your thing. :wink:

Dispondent
11-06-2012, 01:40 PM
Wow, those sorry Brits were booted from a lot of countries, that's quite the legacy...

Chris
11-06-2012, 02:00 PM
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Chris
11-06-2012, 04:41 PM
Wow, those sorry Brits were booted from a lot of countries, that's quite the legacy...

Again, though, isn't that true of any imperialists? Where's the Roman Empire these days?

corrocamino
12-02-2012, 09:14 AM
I've heard it said that the sun never set on the British Empire because God didn't trust the British in the dark. The book "Queen Victoria's Little Wars", by Byron Farwell, makes very interesting reading. And the movie "Mr. Johnson", despite its unassuming title, is a great piece of work (set in British colonial West Africa).

I myself thoroughly despise what's been called "Cocacolonialism" (i.e., "globalization"). My lifetime has spanned an era when "Darkest Africa" still possessed romantic allure down to these times, when the artist's pallette of once-lovely colors has been smeared to an ugly mud. Just the other day, I watched a documentary about a half-Tlingit gentleman in Alaska who splits time fishing and smoking salmon, a la his indigenous ancesters, with flogging pseudo-native craft items manufactured for him in Indonesia. (I've lived too long.)

Mister D
12-02-2012, 12:31 PM
Slightly off topic but this history of post-colonial Africa was great albeit somewhat depressing. Meredith pulls no punches.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Fate-Africa-Continent-Independence/dp/1610390717

Carygrant
12-03-2012, 04:30 AM
I don't expect you make a substantial reply. We all know that's not your thing. :wink:


Wasting your time with another silly post

Carygrant
12-03-2012, 04:42 AM
I've heard it said that the sun never set on the British Empire because God didn't trust the British in the dark. The book "Queen Victoria's Little Wars", by Byron Farwell, makes very interesting reading. And the movie "Mr. Johnson", despite its unassuming title, is a great piece of work (set in British colonial West Africa).

I myself thoroughly despise what's been called "Cocacolonialism" (i.e., "globalization"). My lifetime has spanned an era when "Darkest Africa" still possessed romantic allure down to these times, when the artist's pallette of once-lovely colors has been smeared to an ugly mud. Just the other day, I watched a documentary about a half-Tlingit gentleman in Alaska who splits time fishing and smoking salmon, a la his indigenous ancesters, with flogging pseudo-native craft items manufactured for him in Indonesia. (I've lived too long.)

Nice post Corro . Good to see somebody who can write more than three sentences and knit them into something interesting .

The British Empire was fortunate and inevitable .
We ruled the waters completely and the Industrial Revolution was apparently bequeathed to us by Archangel Gabriel . We made the most of what fell into our laps .
Our conduct was good compared to people like the Spanish , french and Belgians .
It needs to be judged by the standards that passed for OK in those times .
Our Missionaries and then a breed of amazing explorers ensured we gave much more than pillage and rape . We educated and built , and not just for ourselves
We retain over 50 countries within the Commonwealth . And as a result a country that would otherwise be outside the top 50 in today's Power Directory lies 6th/7th in economic terms and still pre-eminent in many other areas .

Mister D
12-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Wasting your time with another silly post

:laugh: I suppose I was. Why state the obvious?

GrumpyDog
12-07-2012, 10:43 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html

I guess the good Ol' US of A has some work to do to catch up :grin:


We will be invading the Galapagos Islands, next, so warning for all unidentified yawning creatures: HIDE!.

RightWingHomosexual
12-20-2012, 02:32 PM
The nice thing to remember is that we retain so many of these Johnny Foreigners as friends . Quite unlike the American attempt to manipulate the rest of the world to its greed . They have only made enemies and can count nobody as friends . The British used their Religion for decency and education . The Americans simply use it as a Hate fuel .Both of each other and all outsiders .

What bullsh*t.

I've read your posts before and you do nothing but post hateful crap about our country. "Ole boy" we've pulled your nation's rear-end out of the fire. Twice. In two wars. And lately, it seems that your type of thinking (neo-Marxist, utopian liberalism) has infected the British body politic, which has led to an invasion of violent Islamofascsists, rooftops full of mosques and a sissified nation of wankers, too timid and too weak to even stand up to the Iranians when they took your ship two years ago.

You sit back and post, hit 'send' in the comfort and privacy of your own home and know NOTHING about our nation or our sacrifice.

I would urge you to take a trip across the channel and step foot into the first cemetary in Normandy and gaze up on the white crosses that dot the landscape. Americans. Young men who had never stepped foot outside their own town, who died (many violently) within hours of landing in Normandy. And in my opinion, died because the British were too damned weak to stop Hitler when they should have (during the Phoney War).

Rag all you want about our nation, ole bean. In the future, at some appointed place and time, "the racist Americans" will have to pull your rear ends out of yet another British disaster, somewhere in the world.

Ivan88
12-20-2012, 04:05 PM
Who was the first country to use poison gas in Middle East?

Britain.
http://i0.wp.com/www.syrianews.cc/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/EdmundAllenby.jpg?resize=382%2C499Good ole General Allenby used poison gas on the Ottoman troops defending Gaza & Jerusalem among other sites.
In the 1920's
Churchill "I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.* Henry Wilson shared Churchills enthusiasm for gas as an instrument of colonial control but the British cabinet was reluctant to sanction the use of a weapon that had caused such misery and revulsion in the First World War. Churchill himself was keen to argue that gas, fired from ground-based guns or dropped from aircraft, would cause *only discomfort or illness, but not death* to dissident tribespeople; but his optimistic view of the effects of gas were mistaken. It was likely that the suggested gas would permanently damage eyesight and *kill children and sickly persons, more especially as the people against whom we intend to use it have no medical knowledge with which to supply antidotes.* Churchill remained unimpressed by such considerations, arguing that the use of gas, a *scientific expedient,* should not be prevented *by the prejudices of those who do not think clearly*. In the event, gas was used against the Iraqi rebels with excellent moral effect* though gas shells were not dropped from aircraft because of practical difficulties [.....]
Today in 1993 there are still Iraqis and Kurds who remember being bombed and machine-gunned by the RAF in the 1920s. A Kurd from the Korak mountains commented, seventy years after the event: *They were bombing here in the Kaniya Khoran...Sometimes they raided three times a day.* Wing Commander Lewis, then of 30 Squadron (RAF), Iraq, recalls how quite often *one would get a signal that a certain Kurdish village would have to be bombed...*, the RAF pilots being ordered to bomb any Kurd who looked hostile. In the same vein, Squadron-Leader Kendal of 30 Squadron recalls that if the tribespeople were doing something they ought not be doing then you shot them.*
Similarly, Wing-Commander Gale, also of 30 Squadron: *If the Kurds hadn't learned by our example to behave themselves in a civilised way then we had to spank their bottoms. This was done by bombs and guns.

Wing-Commander Sir Arthur Harris (later Bomber Harris, head of wartime Bomber Command) was happy to emphasise that *The Arab and Kurd now know what real bombing means in casualties and damage. Within forty-five minutes a full-size village can be practically wiped out and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured.* It was an easy matter to bomb and machine-gun the tribespeople, because they had no means of defence or retalitation. Iraq and Kurdistan were also useful laboratories for new weapons; devices specifically developed by the Air Ministry for use against tribal villages. The ministry drew up a list of possible weapons, some of them the forerunners of napalm and air-to-ground missiles:
Phosphorus bombs, war rockets, metal crowsfeet [to maim livestock] man-killing shrapnel, liquid fire, delay-action bombs. Many of these weapons were first used in Kurdistan.
http://www.againstbombing.org/chemical.htm
ll quotes in the excerpt are properly footnoted in the original book, with full references to British archives and papers. Excerpt from pages 179-181 of Simons, Geoff. *IRAQ: FROM SUMER TO SUDAN*. London: St. Martins Press, 1994

Carygrant
12-20-2012, 07:18 PM
What bullsh*t.

I've read your posts before and you do nothing but post hateful crap about our country. "Ole boy" we've pulled your nation's rear-end out of the fire. Twice. In two wars. And lately, it seems that your type of thinking (neo-Marxist, utopian liberalism) has infected the British body politic, which has led to an invasion of violent Islamofascsists, rooftops full of mosques and a sissified nation of wankers, too timid and too weak to even stand up to the Iranians when they took your ship two years ago.

You sit back and post, hit 'send' in the comfort and privacy of your own home and know NOTHING about our nation or our sacrifice.

I would urge you to take a trip across the channel and step foot into the first cemetary in Normandy and gaze up on the white crosses that dot the landscape. Americans. Young men who had never stepped foot outside their own town, who died (many violently) within hours of landing in Normandy. And in my opinion, died because the British were too damned weak to stop Hitler when they should have (during the Phoney War).

Rag all you want about our nation, ole bean. In the future, at some appointed place and time, "the racist Americans" will have to pull your rear ends out of yet another British disaster, somewhere in the world.


We don't really count Texas as part of the " our country" notion .
Texans are viewed as comical and extremely simple and we are looking forward to full colonisation by the Latinos when we shall be delighted to recognise its independence .

Mister D
12-20-2012, 07:21 PM
We don't really count Texas as part of the " our country" notion .
Texans are viewed as comical and extremely simple and we are looking forward to full colonisation by the Latinos when we shall be delighted to recognise its independence .

Will that be before or after London is conquered by migrants?

Carygrant
12-20-2012, 07:21 PM
Who was the first country to use poison gas in Middle East?




Once again showing how we are always , " on the button" .
Seem to remember it kept the Fuzzy Wuzzy mobs under control . Some of those Johnny Foreigners could be a dashed nuisance .

Deadwood
12-20-2012, 07:31 PM
It spent itself into failure.

They ran out of people to rape and slaughter.

All one need do is read a biography of the life of Mahatmus K. Ghandi and you will know the "white man's burden" of English occupation. Those fucks don't even do their own butchering; they hire the occupied to slaughter their own.

Carygrant
12-20-2012, 07:49 PM
They ran out of people to rape and slaughter.

All one need do is read a biography of the life of Mahatmus K. Ghandi and you will know the "white man's burden" of English occupation. Those fucks don't even do their own butchering; they hire the occupied to slaughter their own.

Capitalism old chap . Efficiencies and the art of delegation .
But I do so enjoy seeing all the Americans and Canadians avidly reading about our great Empire .Pity neither of you were able to achieve anything yourselves .
Guess the Canadians are too full of French genes and Americans never got into the habit of winning .

P.S. Get the poor man's name right next time .

Mister D
12-20-2012, 07:54 PM
Capitalism old chap . Efficiencies and the art of delegation .
But I do so enjoy seeing all the Americans and Canadians avidly reading about our great Empire .Pity neither of you were able to achieve anything yourselves .
Guess the Canadians are too full of French genes and Americans never got into the habit of winning .

P.S. Get the poor man's name right next time .

Luckily Americans have developed a habit of winning. That's why you don't speak German.

Deadwood
12-20-2012, 08:00 PM
We also have to remember from where came the concentration camp.

It was the genius of one Lord Kitchener during the Boer war when Britain called the shots in occupied South Africa.

Hitler merely borrowed the concept.

Mister D
12-20-2012, 08:01 PM
Ouch.

Deadwood
12-20-2012, 08:04 PM
Ouch.



Yeah.

Ivan88
12-21-2012, 03:27 PM
Lincoln did the concentration camp thing too.

During the American revolution some British commanders had concentration camps inside prison ships.

Probably, mostly before that, they just killed everyone except for some pretty girls.1157

Actually, Americans lost the revolution:
1158
If we wanted to bash the Brits, we could bring up the opium wars and their war on Sepoy, India. Even Disraeli identified Britain as worshipping Molech, not Jesus Christ.

Carygrant
12-23-2012, 03:37 PM
Luckily Americans have developed a habit of winning. That's why you don't speak German.


As you learned quite recently , the cowardly late American entry to the war was redundant --- the overall result had been secured already by Team GB with the same little island keeping Russia supplied via the Arctic convoys .
And , of course , since hanging onto our coat tails you have never managed better than second place in every war you have created . We conquered the world with a handful . The mightiest military the planet has ever seen has only really managed to kill civilians without great competition from others .

Carygrant
12-23-2012, 03:39 PM
Lincoln did the concentration camp thing too.

During the American revolution some British commanders had concentration camps inside prison ships.

Probably, mostly before that, they just killed everyone except for some pretty girls.



You are right , Ivan -- we were the winners . Unlike America who never quite got the hang of it .

Captain Obvious
12-23-2012, 03:42 PM
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