12 dumbest reactions to Withdraw

[Peter1469]

14 dumbest reactions to Withdraw (https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord)

So much material qualified- it was hard to pick the 14 best.



The Paris climate accord is a largely symbolic gesture that even supporters acknowledge lacks enforcement mechanisms and, even if successful, will have a statistically insignificant impact on the climate.

Reuters reports (https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/870382226227298304) that U.S. carbon emissions will fall over the next decade — regardless of whether America remains in COP21 treaty.


Nevertheless, the news that Trump is officially withdrawing America from the accord has brought on a level of hyperbole that is almost ... anti-science in its sheer disproportionality.


Here are the 14 most unhinged reactions to Trump's decision thus far.


The hard left is unhinged. Read the best of it at the link.

Loon alert. :smiley:

[donttread]

14 dumbest reactions to Withdraw (https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord)

So much material qualified- it was hard to pick the 14 best.





The hard left is unhinged. Read the best of it at the link.

Loon alert. :smiley:

This shouldn't suprise anyone. We do not base many of our policies on science or real world evidence or common sense or sound economics and neither do other countries. It's more about ego and control. That is why the world is such a mess despite our intellegence. And why people are actually upset that we pulled out of a scientifically meaningless agreement!

[texan]

Withdrawal from a deal they all said sucked! I went back and read some of the comments when it was signed. LOL at these political unbalanced hacks.

[texan]

This shouldn't suprise anyone. We do not base many of our policies on science or real world evidence or common sense or sound economics and neither do other countries. It's more about ego and control. That is why the world is such a mess despite our intellegence. And why people are actually upset that we pulled out of a scientifically meaningless agreement!

When you add a business person into the mix he is looking at return on expense. It's math to him, purely economics in most cases. Sure he will score political points where he can. Let me simplify this even more on what a business man understands compared to a young unqualified politician like Obama who operated on ideology. Also Obama knew this topic would make him a billion when he left office. That's motive or a conflict of interest or whatever you want to call it!

Trump knows by by pulling off all these BS regulations Obama IMO basically illegally placed on business. Why illegal? Ask yourself how they are being removed so easy. He knows the regulations kept the GDP at 1%. He knows it goes up automatically by killing stupid regulations. GDP will grow, so will incomes, and so will jobs.

[Common]

14 dumbest reactions to Withdraw (https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord)

So much material qualified- it was hard to pick the 14 best.





The hard left is unhinged. Read the best of it at the link.

Loon alert. :smiley:

Peter I must disagree the left isnt unhinged, they are totally full of shit. Most of them havent read one paragraph of the Paris Accord all the saw was CLIMATE and GLOBAL words and OBAMAs signature so they hate on everyone and anything thats not for it.

Its what they are

[Peter1469]

It doesn't matter.

We are all going to die from the environment over the weekend because Trump withdrew.

Glad to have know you dudes.

Anyway, see you Monday. :smiley:

[donttread]

When you add a business person into the mix he is looking at return on expense. It's math to him, purely economics in most cases. Sure he will score political points where he can. Let me simplify this even more on what a business man understands compared to a young unqualified politician like Obama who operated on ideology. Also Obama knew this topic would make him a billion when he left office. That's motive or a conflict of interest or whatever you want to call it!

Trump knows by by pulling off all these BS regulations Obama IMO basically illegally placed on business. Why illegal? Ask yourself how they are being removed so easy. He knows the regulations kept the GDP at 1%. He knows it goes up automatically by killing stupid regulations. GDP will grow, so will incomes, and so will jobs.

Agreed to a point. But businessmen have huge egos just like other politicians which is, in part, why the world does not run on logic . Not even close. The other reason of course is that people are better controled with bullshit and polarity then thay are with truth and collective efforts.

[Green Arrow]

Its impact on the climate is irrelevant.

[Tahuyaman]

14 dumbest reactions to Withdraw (https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord)

So much material qualified- it was hard to pick the 14 best.





The hard left is unhinged. Read the best of it at the link.

Loon alert. :smiley:

I was prepared to read those and choose which one I thought was the best. I can't do it. They are all equally insane.

[Peter1469]

An agreement that is not binding...

and if followed perfectly may = .05 degrees of relief....

The butt hurt must be fake. It has to be.

[Kalkin]

Its impact on the climate is irrelevant.

The warming has definitely had a melting effect upon millions of ditzy left-wing snowflakes.

[Chris]

The problem is that many on the left simply assume they know the truth and that, if you disagree or act against that truth, there's something wrong with you. You can present facts and science to show The Paris Climate Agreement Won't Change the Climate (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/76914-The-Paris-Climate-Agreement-Won-t-Change-the-Climate?highlight=paris), but it won't matter, there's something wrong with you.

[Chris]

But the “globalists” of the type that tried to make Paris work have a stunning lack of self-awareness. They pretend to be oblivious to the populist resentment they breed. They act as if there is not a single legitimate doubt about the problem, their analysis of cause and effect, the discernment of their selected experts, or their proposed coercive solution. And there certainly isn’t a doubt that their mighty combination of power, resources, and intelligence can cause all the forces in the universe to adapt to their will, including even the climate that King Canute himself said could not be controlled by kings and princes.

As with countless other statist plans over the last hundred years, they figured that it was enough to gather all the right people in one room, agree to a wish list, sign a few documents, and then watch the course of history conform to their wishes.

The Paris Agreement is no different in its epistemological conceit than Obamacare, the war on drugs, nation-building, universal schooling, or socialism itself. They are all attempts to subvert the capacity of society to manage itself on behalf of the deluded dreams of a few people with power and their lust for controlling social and economic outcomes.

The Amazing Arrogance of the Paris Climate Agreement (https://fee.org/articles/the-amazing-arrogance-of-the-paris-climate-agreement/)

[Peter1469]

The Amazing Arrogance of the Paris Climate Agreement (https://fee.org/articles/the-amazing-arrogance-of-the-paris-climate-agreement/)

I posted that already. Good article.

[donttread]

Its impact on the climate is irrelevant.

And miniscule. So what's the issue?

[Green Arrow]

And miniscule. So what's the issue?

It's more for diplomacy than anything else.

[donttread]

It's more for diplomacy than anything else.

Agreed but I feel that is wromg. If GW is the issue the left purports it to be, action not the diplomatic appearance of action would be needed

[Green Arrow]

Agreed but I feel that is wromg. If GW is the issue the left purports it to be, action not the diplomatic appearance of action would be needed

Action is being done. And the Paris Accord can still be used to do more in the future.

[donttread]

An agreement that is not binding...

and if followed perfectly may = .05 degrees of relief....

The butt hurt must be fake. It has to be.

But not to the sheep.

[donttread]

Action is being done. And the Paris Accord can still be used to do more in the future.


So you support a meaningless agreement because it might lead to what you consider real action to fix what you consider a real problem in the future? Have I got that right?
Relax, if you really believe global warming to be a major reality just buy some property a block off the beach and maybe your grandchilren's children will have beach front property

[donttread]

The problem is that many on the left simply assume they know the truth and that, if you disagree or act against that truth, there's something wrong with you. You can present facts and science to show The Paris Climate Agreement Won't Change the Climate (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/76914-The-Paris-Climate-Agreement-Won-t-Change-the-Climate?highlight=paris), but it won't matter, there's something wrong with you.

That pretty well describes both "sides " of any modern argument. But often the real problem is that we have "sides" to begin with

[Chris]

That pretty well describes both "sides " of any modern argument. But often the real problem is that we have "sides" to begin with

For too many, regretfully, that is true. Even if rational, if people don't agree, they're wrong and there's got to be something wrong with them. In the climate change debate, both alarmists and deniers do this. Where's the healthy skepticism?

[Chris]

Democrats Have Lost On Climate Change, And It’s Their Own Fault (http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/02/democrats-have-lost-on-climate-change/)


Whenever the United States fails to adopt climate-change policy favored by the Left, advocates like to point to polls that allegedly illustrate how a vast majority of Americans support “fighting climate change” or “reducing carbon emissions” or “believe in global warming.” These vague, feel-good moral declarations are equivalent to voters saying they are in favor “reducing poverty” or “helping children.” The more useful question is what are you willing to do? Give up one of your cars? Pay more for energy, food, housing, and everything else? Do you want to empower government to run the economy to help fix the problem?

When it comes to perfunctorily treating global warming as an evil, Democrats have won. The importance of “greening” everything has saturated society. Everyone gets it. When it comes to policy that supposedly mitigates climate change, though, they lose. Mostly, because they’ve hijacked “science” in pursuit of ideologically driven economic policies.

The Paris Agreement is substantively a joke. The widespread rage about President’s Trump’s withdrawal is, as many people have already noted, a case of mass virtue signaling. But the episode does reflect a larger problem for the Left.

The cycle goes something like this: Americans are marginally (or what some of us believe, appropriately) concerned about carbon emissions. For Malthusian progressives, and increasingly the rest of the Democratic Party, this won’t do. So they ratchet up the apocalyptic rhetoric in an effort to scare those people into embracing a slate of economic policies. The problem, of course, is that many people don’t like progressive economic policies. So liberals ratchet up the doom and gloom, to the point where they’re talking about this as an extinction-level event. Lots of people ignore these hysterics. Progressives then go from scaring to attempting to humiliate and bully those who won’t accept that progressive economic policies are tantamount to “science.” Half the country goes from being increasingly immune to becoming increasingly angry....