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AZ Jim
06-17-2017, 11:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

resister
06-17-2017, 11:23 PM
Get back to us when an R goes and shoots up congress.

AZ Jim
06-17-2017, 11:27 PM
Get back to us when an R goes and shoots up congress.Then when the Trump violence creates such a scenario what will your next ignorant reply be?

resister
06-17-2017, 11:46 PM
Then when the Trump violence creates such a scenario what will your next ignorant reply be?If and but, your reply is the ignorant one. Watch the news wensday morning?
Are you praying for a republican equivalent?

How about condemn the liberal physco shooter?

Let me guess? Trump's fault?

resister
06-17-2017, 11:49 PM
Regarding your thread title, Wednesday mornings violence was entirely the fault of one nutball liberal. Wonder if he was anti NRA?

AZ Jim
06-17-2017, 11:55 PM
Regarding your thread title, Wednesday mornings violence was entirely the fault of one nutball liberal. Wonder if he was anti NRA?Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?

resister
06-18-2017, 01:10 AM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?
Ok, lets play that game, no one can say what they want because a nut might just act on it? No more first?

resister
06-18-2017, 01:11 AM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?So you just ignore when the left does it and act like it only comes from one side?

Cletus
06-18-2017, 01:37 AM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?

Jim, the political violence in this country is coming almost exclusively from the Left. They have been able to get away with it only because the Right has not responded in kind.

I am just about at the point where I am ready to say "If violence is what you want, bring it". That would give us a reason to do the world a favor and rid it of them once and for all. The ball is in their court. What happens next is up to them. My advice to them though, is... Don't start a fight you can't win.

midcan5
06-18-2017, 06:24 AM
When you live in a glass house....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/home-grown-right-wing-terrorism-the-hate-the-gop-refuses-to-see

https://www.juancole.com/2017/03/violence-populist-extremism.html

https://www.juancole.com/2015/06/terrorists-americans-extremists.html


'Home-Grown, Right-Wing Terrorism: The Hate the GOP Refuses to See'

'As the Las Vegas shootings show, right-wing extremism is real and on the rise. But for Republicans, better to focus on the Muslims.'

DGUtley
06-18-2017, 06:41 AM
2014 isolated shooting and an article about Canada and Norway? Ok.

hanger4
06-18-2017, 06:51 AM
Then when the Trump violence creates such a scenario what will your next ignorant reply be?

AZ Jim why aren't you motivated to violence because of Trumps words or lack of ??

Common
06-18-2017, 06:53 AM
Oh My I farted, that goddamn Donald Trump...lol this is gone far beyond silly

Peter1469
06-18-2017, 07:28 AM
The "news" won't tell you that the latest two "matters" were from Bernie bots. Oregon and Alexandria.

AZ Jim
06-18-2017, 10:31 AM
@AZ Jim (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1901) why aren't you motivated to violence because of Trumps words or lack of ?? Think about it awhile.

Crepitus
06-18-2017, 10:35 AM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?

You will never get these wack-jobs to admit that.

Chris
06-18-2017, 10:54 AM
One tends to think that the left advocating violence against the right fires up the left to do that, and, of course, vice versa, but I said it yesterday in one of the threads on this topic, that there's also likely crossover, where the right's words fires up the left to act, and, of course, vice versa. Right now we see the left acting out, but the right could. Just as guns don't, political principles don't kill, people do.

hanger4
06-18-2017, 12:23 PM
Think about it awhile.

Why AZ Jim ?? I asked a simple question.

Apparently you aren't motivated to violence by Trumps words, why is that ??

Hoosier8
06-18-2017, 12:45 PM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCYCfx1UwAAszEt.jpg

Peter1469
06-18-2017, 01:47 PM
The left is preaching hate these days.

birddog
06-18-2017, 08:09 PM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?

You continue to be FOS. The entire TDS which is exacerbated by the MSM is perpetuating violence against conservative thinkers.

decedent
06-18-2017, 10:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

I miss Obama. Trump is possibly the most divisive President since Jefferson Davis.

birddog
06-18-2017, 11:02 PM
I miss Obama. Trump is possibly the most divisive President since Jefferson Davis.


Any of Trump's incendiary remarks are minor compared to what your libnut MSM puts out. Obama was clearly the most divisive president in my lifetime. Try dealing with facts for a chang. Surely you are not that ignorant.:rollseyes:

resister
06-18-2017, 11:03 PM
Any of Trump's incendiary remarks are minor compared to what your libnut MSM puts out. Obama was clearly the most divisive president in my lifetime. Try dealing with facts for a chang. Surely you are not that ignorant.:rollseyes:The MSM spouts far more craziness in a day than Trump ever has!

Crepitus
06-18-2017, 11:09 PM
The MSM spouts far more craziness in a day than Trump ever has!

Like what?

decedent
06-18-2017, 11:47 PM
Any of Trump's incendiary remarks are minor compared to what your libnut MSM puts out. Obama was clearly the most divisive president in my lifetime. Try dealing with facts for a chang. Surely you are not that ignorant.:rollseyes:

Speaking of ignorance, can you show us some "incendiary remarks" that Obama made in his eight years as President?

resister
06-19-2017, 12:01 AM
Like what?
How about Waters, Pelosi and Warren? And who can forget this1835918360 MSM, the left, all the same

AeonPax
06-19-2017, 02:22 AM
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This N&P forum is absolutely no different than the thousands of other similar forums; the far (zealot) right clashes with the far (zealot) left. Despite all the commotion being paid by mods, vips and whatever to a more civilized and structured environment, you still have over half the posts here ending up in partisan flames. Lies, generalizations and half-truths are the staple diet of the zealots as is confusing opinions for facts. This thread is an excellent example of it. Neither side has any use for those who can think independent of the conservative/liberal (see democratic/republican) hive minded group-think.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 07:51 AM
How about Waters, Pelosi and Warren? And who can forget this1835918360 MSM, the left, all the same

OK, what about waters, pelosi, and warren?

And one comedian. This may be news to you but comedians are not part of the media in the traditional sense.

You do realize you just posted a picture of 3 actual beheadings don't you? Guessing there is a rule against that.

Chris
06-19-2017, 08:39 AM
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This N&P forum is absolutely no different than the thousands of other similar forums; the far (zealot) right clashes with the far (zealot) left. Despite all the commotion being paid by mods, vips and whatever to a more civilized and structured environment, you still have over half the posts here ending up in partisan flames. Lies, generalizations and half-truths are the staple diet of the zealots as is confusing opinions for facts. This thread is an excellent example of it. Neither side has any use for those who can think independent of the conservative/liberal (see democratic/republican) hive minded group-think.



When a ship in sinking many people panic.

birddog
06-19-2017, 09:24 AM
Speaking of ignorance, can you show us some "incendiary remarks" that Obama made in his eight years as President?

His speech at Ferguson for one, one example of many that any person with at least a room temperature IQ would see.

decedent
06-19-2017, 10:42 AM
His speech at Ferguson for one, one example of many that any person with at least a room temperature IQ would see.

Obama's speech about Ferguson was incendiary? I'd like to know how. He called for peace and better relationship between law enforcement an communities, saying their are good people on both sides of the debate. What you see just doesn't exist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2BBAfWucaE

resister
06-19-2017, 10:45 AM
OK, what about waters, pelosi, and warren?

And one comedian. This may be news to you but comedians are not part of the media in the traditional sense.

You do realize you just posted a picture of 3 actual beheadings don't you? Guessing there is a rule against that.Nahh, fake heads. If you don't think Pelosi , Waters and Warren don't spout crazy crap, no link in the world would suffice

gamewell45
06-19-2017, 11:30 AM
Get back to us when an R goes and shoots up congress.
Gabby Gifford was probably the last one. The guy who shot her was an Independent but political convictions were conservative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

Mister D
06-19-2017, 11:33 AM
Gabby Gifford was probably the last one. The guy who shot her was an Independent but political convictions were conservative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

Your citation suggests otherwise.

gamewell45
06-19-2017, 11:39 AM
Your citation suggests otherwise.

If you go to the section that says "views on politics" that should clarify things.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 11:41 AM
Nahh, fake heads. If you don't think Pelosi , Waters and Warren don't spout crazy crap, no link in the world would suffice

Again, not part of the "media".

Mister D
06-19-2017, 11:42 AM
If you go to the section that says "views on politics" that should clarify things.
It does exactly the opposite.

resister
06-19-2017, 11:42 AM
Again, not part of the "media".
The left and the media are best chums.

resister
06-19-2017, 11:47 AM
It does exactly the opposite.
As well as debunking many other claims made by the left about him.

Private Pickle
06-19-2017, 11:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

Berkley anyone?

gamewell45
06-19-2017, 11:57 AM
It does exactly the opposite.
It's quite possible that I mis-read the section; I'll go back and read it again. If I'm wrong, then my apologies.

gamewell45
06-19-2017, 12:18 PM
I went back and re-read the section and I believe it does imply that Jared Lee Loughner had changed his political viewpoint to "conservative and anti-government.

"Records show that Loughner was registered as an Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_(voter)) and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010.[39] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-Cillizza2011-01-11-39)[40] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-CNN_Political_Unit2011-01-10-40)
Loughner's high-school friend Zach Osler said, "He did not watch TV; he disliked the news; he didn't listen to political radio; he didn't take sides; he wasn't on the Left (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics); he wasn't on the Right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics)."[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-Banfield2011-01-12-18) A former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007, prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal,"[41] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-41) "radical."[42] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-42) The tone of Loughner's online writings and videos from immediately before the attack were described by The Guardian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian) as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party movement".[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-43)"

--taken from wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views_on_politics

That's how I came to my conclusion on my answer originally.

Mister D
06-19-2017, 01:07 PM
I went back and re-read the section and I believe it does imply that Jared Lee Loughner had changed his political viewpoint to "conservative and anti-government.

"Records show that Loughner was registered as an Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_(voter)) and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010.[39] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-Cillizza2011-01-11-39)[40] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-CNN_Political_Unit2011-01-10-40)
Loughner's high-school friend Zach Osler said, "He did not watch TV; he disliked the news; he didn't listen to political radio; he didn't take sides; he wasn't on the Left (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics); he wasn't on the Right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics)."[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-Banfield2011-01-12-18) A former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007, prior to his personality transformation, as "left wing, quite liberal,"[41] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-41) "radical."[42] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-42) The tone of Loughner's online writings and videos from immediately before the attack were described by The Guardian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian) as "almost exclusively conservative and anti-government, with echoes of the populist campaigning of the Tea Party movement".[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#cite_note-43)"

--taken from wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views_on_politics

That's how I came to my conclusion on my answer originally.
The entire article is a hodgepodge of conflicting opinions. That should surprise no one. Trying to pin a political label on a paranoid schizophrenic is an exercise in futility.

Mister D
06-19-2017, 01:07 PM
It's also pretty fucking retarded.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 01:25 PM
Do you not track the logic that if a candidate for the highest office in our country talks, condones and encourages violence frequently he is going to bring out violence in many others of all political allegiances and of various mental condition?


The shapers of young minds on college campuses are telling students that all Republicans should be lined up and shot.


Elected Democrats are telling their constituents that Republucans want to starve and kill their children. Deny everyone medical care. Throw elderly people out on the streets to die. Poison the air, water and food supply and destroy the earth. They post messages on social media telling people to "hunt down Republicans".


Will any liberal here condemn that type of rhetoric?

Hoosier8
06-19-2017, 01:26 PM
If a Democrat is shot, the shooter's politics are the problem.

If a Republican is shot, the victim's politics are the problem.

Do they realize this is akin to blaming a woman for being raped if she wears a short skirt?

AZ Jim
06-19-2017, 02:06 PM
The shapers of young minds on college campuses are telling students that all Republicans should be lined up and shot.


Elected Democrats are telling their constituents that Republucans want to starve and kill their children. Deny everyone medical care. Throw elderly people out on the streets to die. Poison the air, water and food supply and destroy the earth. They post messages on social media telling people to "hunt down Republicans".


Will any liberal here condemn that type of rhetoric? Post a convincing link showing colleges teaching such rot or be known as a liar.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 02:10 PM
Post a convincing link showing colleges teaching such rot or be known as a liar.

Do you have selective memory lapses?


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/14/remember-professor-who-said-republicans-should-be-executed.html



https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/11/furor-over-texas-am-philosophers-comments-violence-against-white-people

AZ Jim
06-19-2017, 02:21 PM
Do you have selective memory lapses?


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/14/remember-professor-who-said-republicans-should-be-executed.html



https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/11/furor-over-texas-am-philosophers-comments-violence-against-white-peopleNo. 1 FOX....'Nuff said. No.2 Curry was talking about self defense and he was referring to whites (not republicans as you misstated).

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 02:41 PM
The left and the media are best chums.

Since you can't point out and cases of any media saying things as "crazy as trump" and are now just dodging I'm gonna assume you got nothing.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 02:47 PM
No. 1 FOX....'Nuff said. No.2 Curry was talking about self defense and he was referring to whites (not republicans as you misstated).

It's OK for a college professor to advocate killing whites as long as he's not singling whites of one particular political leaning? And he wasn't referring to self defense.

You are such a hack, you can't even face the facts pertaining to the extreme hyperbole from the hard left.

You blame Republicans, conservatives or Trump for liberals telling people that the goal of their political opposition is for everyone to die and then destroy the earth.


This is why the situation is going to get worse. People like you refuse to moderate or tame the rhetoric. Their goal is to roil up fear and anger. Then when that fear and anger manifests itself into violence, you point the finger of blame at the victims of the violence. They caused that impressionable person to lash out.

jet57
06-19-2017, 02:50 PM
Then when the Trump violence creates such a scenario what will your next ignorant reply be?

I think that trumps just the icing on the poison cake that the radical right has been trying to feed us for a generation now. People get tire of abuse and begin to react; it's been a long time comin now.

resister
06-19-2017, 03:10 PM
Since you can't point out and cases of any media saying things as "crazy as trump" and are now just dodging I'm gonna assume you got nothing.
You got a lot of nerve to ask me for a link, you agreed we would compare list yesterday, I got the link, then I asked you for yours twice, (the horror) was insulted by you and jumped on by your little wingmen and accused of harassment and insulted AND to top it off, you still did not give me a link.

So, you got ZERO business asking that of me.

You basically proved to me, debating with you is a big waste of time. So, there is that.

Hoosier8
06-19-2017, 03:25 PM
I think that trumps just the icing on the poison cake that the radical right has been trying to feed us for a generation now. People get tire of abuse and begin to react; it's been a long time comin now.

Great example of radical left wing rhetoric. Republicans want to kill you so left wing violence is appropriate.

resister
06-19-2017, 03:29 PM
Great example of radical left wing rhetoric. Republicans want to kill you so left wing violence is appropriate.
But he is not left! lol

Hoosier8
06-19-2017, 03:31 PM
But he is not left! lol

LOL, yeah, I saw that on his intro. Except for his partisanship, he isn't partisan.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 04:05 PM
I think that trumps just the icing on the poison cake that the radical right has been trying to feed us for a generation now. People get tire of abuse and begin to react; it's been a long time comin now.


I'm not sure what point you are trying to make there. Trump certainly isn't on the hard right. And I don't know what this "poison cake" is that you are referring to.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 04:07 PM
But he is not left! lol


He also said that he stands for whatever is real. He's clearly a left leaning type, which is fine if one can admit it, and I'm trying to figure out what is real about his "poison cake" in his opening comment here.

decedent
06-19-2017, 04:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

Wow. It's easy to forget what a thug Trump is. Trump is no Obama.


The funny thing is, he's all talk. Talking about wanting to assault people as if he can actually fight.

Hoosier8
06-19-2017, 04:43 PM
Wow. It's easy to forget what a thug Trump is. Trump is no Obama.


The funny thing is, he's all talk. Talking about wanting to assault people as if he can actually fight.

Yep, he doesn't wear mom jeans.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 06:42 PM
You got a lot of nerve to ask me for a link, you agreed we would compare list yesterday, I got the link, then I asked you for yours twice, (the horror) was insulted by you and jumped on by your little wingmen and accused of harassment and insulted AND to top it off, you still did not give me a link.

So, you got ZERO business asking that of me.

You basically proved to me, debating with you is a big waste of time. So, there is that.

Dude, you are hallucinating or some shit. That isn't the way that happened at all.

jet57
06-19-2017, 06:51 PM
Great example of radical left wing rhetoric. Republicans want to kill you so left wing violence is appropriate.
The the fact ma'am.

Yeah, I guess our founders were just another example of radical left-wing rhetoric inaction too.

Hoosier8
06-19-2017, 07:02 PM
The the fact ma'am.

Yeah, I guess our founders were just another example of radical left-wing rhetoric inaction too.

You mistake actual violence with retarded left wing fantasies.

jet57
06-19-2017, 07:41 PM
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make there. Trump certainly isn't on the hard right. And I don't know what this "poison cake" is that you are referring to.

Trump has decided to represent the hard right policies. This stuff isn't so much about Trump proper, it's a continuation of things like 'occupy'. The more the hard right denies and pushes the agenda the more of this stuff we're going to see. Notice that each outburst gets a bit bigger and harder to control. Crazy people, like the guy at the baseball field will just become more active as well. It's time for it.

resister
06-19-2017, 07:42 PM
Dude, you are hallucinating or some shit. That isn't the way that happened at all.Now just lie, your usual MO, want me to repost it so you can eat your words.

Remember, don't count on me not knowing forum functions well enough to discredit your lies any more.

So for the record are saying you did not ask to compare list about there being more laws against murder than gun laws?

Did you not say "lets compare list"?

Now you insult me and say I am hallucinating? Like I said, debating you is a waste of time.

Lying is your forte.

Go ahead and call me the liar.

resister
06-19-2017, 07:49 PM
Crazy people, like the guy at the baseball field will just become more active as well. It's time for it. Right here people, here is the hate, but he is not "left"18366

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 07:56 PM
Trump has decided to represent the hard right policies. This stuff isn't so much about Trump proper, it's a continuation of things like 'occupy'. The more the hard right denies and pushes the agenda the more of this stuff we're going to see. Notice that each outburst gets a bit bigger and harder to control. Crazy people, like the guy at the baseball field will just become more active as well. It's time for it.


Trump is is not a fan of globalism. Certainly that is something the hard right approves of, but he is not a particularly right wing type.

In your introduction, you claimed to be a realist and centrist. Neither appears to be the case so far.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 07:57 PM
Right here people, here is the hate, but he is not "left"18366

Yep, just another hateful leftist who can't honestly present his views.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 08:00 PM
Now just lie, your usual MO, want me to repost it so you can eat your words.

Remember, don't count on me not knowing forum functions well enough to discredit your lies any more.

So for the record are saying you did not ask to compare list about there being more laws against murder than gun laws?

Did you not say "lets compare list"?

Now you insult me and say I am hallucinating? Like I said, debating you is a waste of time.

Lying is your forte.

Go ahead and call me the liar.

Go ahead and repost it, it didn't happen that way.

resister
06-19-2017, 08:11 PM
Go ahead and repost it, it didn't happen that way.
So you did not say, there are more laws against murder than guns?

resister
06-19-2017, 08:14 PM
So you did not say, there are more laws against murder than guns?
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059692#post2059692

del
06-19-2017, 08:17 PM
So you did not say, there are more laws against murder than guns?


http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059692#post2059692

:rofl:

what part of *probably* is too much for you to process?

Mister D
06-19-2017, 08:18 PM
Yeah, so it was *probably* a really stupid comment. Feel better, Crepitus? lol

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 08:20 PM
Yeah, so it was *probably* a really stupid comment. Feel better, Crepitus? lol

Turns out it's a pretty close race. He went off when I didn't respond fast enough so we never really got through with the discussion.

resister
06-19-2017, 08:25 PM
Turns out it's a pretty close race. He went off when I didn't respond fast enough so we never really got through with the discussion.
I asked you twice, you came back and insulted me (remember it was your idea)

Then your wing men Swooped in to insult mode.

You still have not made good on your end of the deal, but yet ask me to prove something today.

Then when I bust you out, you insult again .

I'm done going in circles with you, never ask me for a link until you hold good on your part of the deal.

resister
06-19-2017, 08:28 PM
:rofl:

what part of *probably* is too much for you to process?
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059712#post2059712

If you want to play wingman #3 keep up.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 08:45 PM
I asked you twice, you came back and insulted me (remember it was your idea)

Then your wing men Swooped in to insult mode.

You still have not made good on your end of the deal, but yet ask me to prove something today.

Then when I bust you out, you insult again .

I'm done going in circles with you, never ask me for a link until you hold good on your part of the deal.

Where did I insult you?

And I don't have any "wing men".

Go back and read the thread. I posted a link debunking your "20000 gun laws" nonsense.

resister
06-19-2017, 08:55 PM
Where did I insult you?


Go back and read the thread. I posted a link debunking your "20000 gun laws" nonsense.
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059774#post2059774 now you go back and re-read the thread, I flat out stated their is some dispute on that claim.

Then you claimed you debunked my link THE ATF REGULATIONS LOL.

BTW, you still owe me a link that their are more laws against murder than guns.

Until you post one, never ask me for a link.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 08:59 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059774#post2059774 now you go back and re-read the thread, I flat out stated their is some dispute on that claim.

Then you claimed you debunked my link THE ATF REGULATIONS LOL.

BTW, you still owe me a link that their are more laws against murder than guns.

Until you post one, never ask me for a link.

There in no comprehensive link of every states murder laws. I listed kansas's and stated I assumed other states were similar.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 09:01 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/84682-Driver-with-Trump-Sticker-shot-at-several-times?p=2059774#post2059774 now you go back and re-read the thread, I flat out stated their is some dispute on that claim.

Then you claimed you debunked my link THE ATF REGULATIONS LOL.

BTW, you still owe me a link that their are more laws against murder than guns.

Until you post one, never ask me for a link.

Btw, I didn't even look at you list of ATF regulations because they were not germane to the discussion.

Dr. Who
06-19-2017, 09:03 PM
It's OK for a college professor to advocate killing whites as long as he's not singling whites of one particular political leaning? And he wasn't referring to self defense.

You are such a hack, you can't even face the facts pertaining to the extreme hyperbole from the hard left.

You blame Republicans, conservatives or Trump for liberals telling people that the goal of their political opposition is for everyone to die and then destroy the earth.


This is why the situation is going to get worse. People like you refuse to moderate or tame the rhetoric. Their goal is to roil up fear and anger. Then when that fear and anger manifests itself into violence, you point the finger of blame at the victims of the violence. They caused that impressionable person to lash out.
If any professor is advocating that students commit murder, that person should not only be dimissed from the educational institution but should also face conspiracy to commit murder charges. I think that's a pretty non-partisan point of view, don't you?

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 09:12 PM
If any professor is advocating that students commit murder, that person should not only be dimissed from the educational institution but should also face conspiracy to commit murder charges. I think that's a pretty non-partisan point of view, don't you?


Right, but when was the last time you saw a conservative college professor say that all Democrats should be lined up and shot? Have you ever seen a conservative senator or congressman go to the podium and tell everyone that the goal of the Democrats is to destroy the earth and kill the elderly and starve children?

resister
06-19-2017, 09:24 PM
Btw, I didn't even look at you list of ATF regulations because they were not germane to the discussion.They are gun laws, gotta love when someone asks for a link, says they will reciprocate, ignores link, does not post own link.

Then has gall to ask for link next day....lol

Dr. Who
06-19-2017, 09:27 PM
Right, but when was the last time you saw a conservative college professor say that all Democrats should be lined up and shot? Have you ever seen a conservative senator or congressman go to the podium and tell everyone that the goal of the Democrats is to destroy the earth and kill the elderly and starve children?

Conservatives are the minority in teaching. That's just a reflection of the personality types who go into the teaching profession.

I haven't read everything that every politician has emoted at a podium, so I really don't know, but I do know that no party has cornered the market on hyperbole.

Tahuyaman
06-19-2017, 09:31 PM
Right, but when was the last time you saw a conservative college professor say that all Democrats should be lined up and shot? Have you ever seen a conservative senator or congressman go to the podium and tell everyone that the goal of the Democrats is to destroy the earth and kill the elderly and starve children?


Conservatives are the minority in teaching. That's just a reflection of the personality types who go into the teaching profession.

I haven't read everything that every politician has emoted at a podium, so I really don't know, but I do know that no party has cornered the market on hyperbole.


You really don't want to address my question, huh?


If a Republican or conservative politician had ever made a statement like that, you would have heard about it on every news network ten times a day for at least a week and then reminded about it every time he made a public comment in the future.

Dr. Who
06-19-2017, 09:46 PM
You really don't want to address my question, huh?


If a Republican or conservative politician had ever made a statement like that, you would have heard about it on every news network ten times a day for at least a week and then reminded about it every time he made a public comment in the future.

Like I said, I don't know the specifics, but here's a little factoid. Of the 14 members of Congress assasinated or wounded in office, 10 were Democrats and 4 were Republicans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Congress_members_killed_or_w ounded_in_office

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 09:57 PM
They are gun laws, gotta love when someone asks for a link, says they will reciprocate, ignores link, does not post own link.

Then has gall to ask for link next day....lol

Not the gun laws we were referring to. Those deal of with import, export, manufacturing, design, sales, and so on. Very little dealing with individual ownership which is what our conversation was about.

You about ready to stop embarrassing yourself and get this thread back on track?

jet57
06-19-2017, 10:24 PM
Right here people, here is the hate, but he is not "left"18366

(chuckle)

I started a thread over at debatepoltics asking if people thought that Trump might be the anichrist, and I got gigged for making a religious thread political; which was stupid, because there is supposed to be an antichrist; there have been articles written on the him as such. The avatar is a reminder to the idiot mods over there.

Here's proof of the question:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/clconnett/2016/05/16/yes-dear-christian-antichrist/

So, now that you have introduced yourself as a "jump to conclusions hater who doesn't know what he's talking about"...

Pick a subject and we can debate.

resister
06-19-2017, 10:29 PM
Not the gun laws we were referring to. Those deal of with import, export, manufacturing, design, sales, and so on. Very little dealing with individual ownership which is what our conversation was about.


You admitted you did bother to read my link, it is a comprehensive guide on all federal gun laws, from domestic to foreign.

Much better than the "no link" you never provided after asking me to and saying you would.

Again, don't ever ask me for a link until you provide me a link proving that there are more laws against murder than, gun laws. You said gun laws, want to go back and say just "some" gun laws?

You can never say you are wrong, can you?

resister
06-19-2017, 10:40 PM
(chuckle)

I started a thread over at debatepoltics asking if people thought that Trump might be the anichrist, and I got gigged for making a religious thread political; which was stupid, because there is supposed to be an antichrist; there have been articles written on the him as such. The avatar is a reminder to the idiot mods over there.

Here's proof of the question:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/clconnett/2016/05/16/yes-dear-christian-antichrist/

So, now that you have introduced yourself as a "jump to conclusions hater who doesn't know what he's talking about"...

Pick a subject and we can debate.
Don't you know, every president since forever when is the anti Christ. More referring to you saying "it is time for it" concerning the recent Scalise shooting.

Crepitus
06-19-2017, 11:00 PM
You admitted you did bother to read my link, it is a comprehensive guide on all federal gun laws, from domestic to foreign.

Much better than the "no link" you never provided after asking me to and saying you would.

Again, don't ever ask me for a link until you provide me a link proving that there are more laws against murder than, gun laws. You said gun laws, want to go back and say just "some" gun laws?

You can never say you are wrong, can you?

I went back and read it .

I am not wrong.

You are moving the goal posts. No worries though, im used to it. It is a conservative trait.

I will ask you for a link any time I choose, your childish pouting and desires have no effect on my actions.

resister
06-19-2017, 11:02 PM
(chuckle)

I started a thread over at debatepoltics asking if people thought that Trump might be the anichrist, and I got gigged for making a religious thread political; which was stupid, because there is supposed to be an antichrist; there have been articles written on the him as such. The avatar is a reminder to the idiot mods over there.

Here's proof of the question:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/clconnett/2016/05/16/yes-dear-christian-antichrist/

So, now that you have introduced yourself as a "jump to conclusions hater who doesn't know what he's talking about"...

Pick a subject and we can debate.
How about you referring to the recent shooting and stating "It is time for it" ? Sounds like a good "Debate topic",right?

jet57
06-19-2017, 11:08 PM
Trump is is not a fan of globalism. Certainly that is something the hard right approves of, but he is not a particularly right wing type.

In your introduction, you claimed to be a realist and centrist. Neither appears to be the case so far.

No, you're right; he isn't particularly right-wing, however is certainly catering to that cause and do everything he can to ingratiate himself to that end. That has shown itself, from the beginning to be a big problem for him as the bombastic MO of the far right fits his personality mold and that has brought him no end of disrespect and trouble. The man clearly has no respect for the office he holds, or for people in general in my view and as a result he is unashamedly throwing banana peels into his own path.

I've never like the guy personally, but once he got elected and with the right-wing in control I thought Id have an open mind and see what they could do, but so far they've only taken a bad situation and made it worse. The country has no leadership whatsoever.

As for my politics, I go with what's real. For the record the Democrats have been eating from the weak kneed stupid pill box of cereal since Johnson left office.

resister
06-19-2017, 11:08 PM
I went back and read it .

I am not wrong.



You stated there are more laws against murder than guns, you gave zero links at all, just deflections and insults and ignored the ATF REGULATIONS (laws)

Can I expect to see you ever back your claim with a link?

Evidently not, we are this far in and you show no sign of doing so, or *gasp* saying, "crepitus made a wrong claim"

resister
06-19-2017, 11:14 PM
I will ask you for a link any time I choose, your childish pouting and desires have no effect on my actions.You can continue to childishly insult me and ask for links all you want, until you show me a link that there are more laws against murder than there are guns, I will ignore you as the insulting hypocrite you are.

I said Good Day.

Crepitus
06-20-2017, 01:54 AM
You stated there are more laws against murder than guns, you gave zero links at all, just deflections and insults and ignored the ATF REGULATIONS (laws)

Can I expect to see you ever back your claim with a link?

Evidently not, we are this far in and you show no sign of doing so, or *gasp* saying, "crepitus made a wrong claim"

Jesus this is getting old


You need to get over this and move on. I'm right, you're wrong. You'd think you would be getting used to it by now.

Crepitus
06-20-2017, 01:55 AM
You can continue to childishly insult me and ask for links all you want, until you show me a link that there are more laws against murder than there are guns, I will ignore you as the insulting hypocrite you are.

I said Good Day.

Once again, point out the insults.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 08:58 AM
You stated there are more laws against murder than guns, you gave zero links at all, just deflections and insults and ignored the ATF REGULATIONS (laws)

Can I expect to see you ever back your claim with a link?

Evidently not, we are this far in and you show no sign of doing so, or *gasp* saying, "crepitus made a wrong claim"


How many laws can you have against murder? Murder is a criminal act. It's a criminal act whether it's committed by using a hammer or a gun.

I'm not sure what he means by that that?

resister
06-20-2017, 10:06 AM
How many laws can you have against murder? Murder is a criminal act. It's a criminal act whether it's committed by using a hammer or a gun.

I'm not sure what he means by that that?
He never did provide a link and claims he is right. I provided the ATF firearms guide....:rollseyes:

Done with him on. Debating someone like that is pointless.

AZ Jim
06-20-2017, 01:16 PM
He never did provide a link and claims he is right. I provided the ATF firearms guide....:rollseyes:

Done with him on. Debating someone like that is pointless.Translation: "Damn it he kicked my ass again!!"

birddog
06-20-2017, 01:17 PM
He never did provide a link and claims he is right. I provided the ATF firearms guide....:rollseyes:

Done with him on. Debating someone like that is pointless.

Most of the libs around here are dumber than owl poop! Sad but true.:grin:

AZ Jim
06-20-2017, 01:21 PM
Most of the libs around here are dumber than owl poop! Sad but true.:grin:Link to your IQ score?

resister
06-20-2017, 01:31 PM
Translation: "Damn it he kicked my ass again!!"
Try reading, when you say "lets compare links" then don't bother to provide one and declare yourself the "winner"

Your logic is as shallow as his....:rollseyes:

Cletus
06-20-2017, 01:41 PM
Link to your IQ score?

If we did that, I doubt the forum's Leftists would fare very well.

birddog
06-20-2017, 01:56 PM
Link to your IQ score?

If you tell me yours first, I swear to be honest to reply with mine.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:22 PM
Then when the Trump violence creates such a scenario what will your next ignorant reply be?


This is absolute proof that with the liberals, one can always find a way to hold other's responsible for the intolerable acts of their kind.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:27 PM
This is absolute proof that with the liberals, one can always find a way to hold other's responsible for the intolerable acts of their kind.

Don't forget to remind me to blame you for the actions of the KKK...

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:29 PM
Don't forget to remind me to blame you for the actions of the KKK...

The KKK originated as an arm of the Democrat party.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:32 PM
The KKK originated as an arm of the Democrat party.
...and Lincoln was a Republican. Things change.

(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:33 PM
Try reading, when you say "lets compare links" then don't bother to provide one and declare yourself the "winner"

Your logic is as shallow as his....:rollseyes:

He was talking about sausage.

resister
06-20-2017, 04:34 PM
(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)
Where did you hear that at?

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:34 PM
...and Lincoln was a Republican. Things change.

(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)


Thats a nice revision of history.

They were created to oppose Republican reconstruction efforts.

resister
06-20-2017, 04:36 PM
Thats a nice revision of history.

They were created to oppose Republican reconstruction efforts.
Alternative history :wink:

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:36 PM
Where did you hear that at?


Public education would be my guess.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:37 PM
Thats a nice revision of history.
Yours is a fiction. Mine is reality.

Some members of the early KKK were indeed Democrats, but it was never an arm of the Democrat party.

But again, things change.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:39 PM
Where did you hear that at?

In every historical account of their creation.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/history/united-states-and-canada/us-history/ku-klux-klan

http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/ku-klux-klan-founded

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ku-Klux-Klan

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:40 PM
It's amazing how many people are ignorant of their own history.

resister
06-20-2017, 04:40 PM
Yours is a fiction. Mine is reality.

Some members of the early KKK were indeed Democrats, but it was never an arm of the Democrat party.

But again, things change.
A link could clear things up nicely, just saying.

resister
06-20-2017, 04:42 PM
In every historical account of their creation.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/history/united-states-and-canada/us-history/ku-klux-klan

http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/ku-klux-klan-founded

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ku-Klux-Klan

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan
What about this one
http://russp.us/racism.htm

del
06-20-2017, 04:42 PM
In every historical account of their creation.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/history/united-states-and-canada/us-history/ku-klux-klan

http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/ku-klux-klan-founded

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ku-Klux-Klan

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan


A link could clear things up nicely, just saying.


derp

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 04:46 PM
What about this one
http://russp.us/racism.htm

LOL...yeah, that seems reputable. Sorry if I don't give much credit to some dude and his shitty looking blog.

del
06-20-2017, 04:47 PM
What about this one
http://russp.us/racism.htm


:rofl:

resister
06-20-2017, 04:48 PM
LOL...yeah, that seems reputable. Sorry if I don't give much credit to some dude and his shitty looking blog.


OK, I can do this all dayhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2309727/posts

resister
06-20-2017, 04:49 PM
derp
Run along wingman, run along and play.

del
06-20-2017, 04:49 PM
OK, I can do this all dayhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2309727/posts

you can do it forever and it will still be bullshit.

see what prison planet has on it and get back to me.

del
06-20-2017, 04:50 PM
Run along wingman, run along and play.

nah, i've always been a sucker for a freak show

carry on

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:56 PM
Yours is a fiction. Mine is reality.

Some members of the early KKK were indeed Democrats, but it was never an arm of the Democrat party.

But again, things change.


Are you willing to admit that your version of how or why the KKK was created was wrong?

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 04:59 PM
...and Lincoln was a Republican. Things change.

(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)


This is blatantly false. I think you now know that.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 05:01 PM
Alternative history :wink:

Liberals can't help themselves. That's why they only make problems worse. They refuse to accept responsibility and learn from their failures.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 05:07 PM
Yours is a fiction. Mine is reality.

Some members of the early KKK were indeed Democrats, but it was never an arm of the Democrat party.

But again, things change.


First you said they were Republicans. Now you admit that they were Democrats. What's the next error you will admit?

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 05:07 PM
OK, I can do this all dayhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2309727/posts

LOL...you can throw more partisan garbage crap websites all you wish. Your posting of "Irish Mike's" blog rant is very compelling though.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 05:08 PM
First you said they were Republicans. Now you admit that they were Democrats. What's the next error you will admit?
I didn't say they were Republicans. I said (or implied) they "are" right wing.

Maybe you should read posts before you comment.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 05:09 PM
This is blatantly false. I think you now know that.

The KKK wasn't started by former Confederate soldiers? Seriously? Are you shitting me or do you actually believe that?

wow...

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 05:09 PM
Are you willing to admit that your version of how or why the KKK was created was wrong?

no.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 05:18 PM
no.


I knew you couldn't do that.

I'm still laughing about your original contension that the KKK was formed by Republicans opposing Republican reconstruction policies.


While you're at it it, why don't you tell me how the civil rights act was only passed because of Democratic support?


The foundation of the Democrat party is racism. This is an undeniable fact.

resister
06-20-2017, 05:30 PM
Here is another one, while searching I also looked at politifact, even they admit the KKK targeted Republicans

http://wnd.com/2007/10/44171

hanger4
06-20-2017, 05:31 PM
...and Lincoln was a Republican. Things change.

(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)

"(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)"

Seriously Common Sense ??

The four links you posted even refute that bazaar statement.

Safety
06-20-2017, 05:36 PM
The KKK wasn't started by former Confederate soldiers? Seriously? Are you shitting me or do you actually believe that?

wow...

It was started by democrats, but the same democrats that oppose muslims, gay marriage, police brutality, jews, hispanics, and interracial marriage....oh wait.

No, that equation does not equal zero, so there must be another variable in place that explains it....maybe it was the southern conservatives that didn't have the party lines that are in place today that started the KKK. For the slow ones that try to act smart, it was called ideology not party at that time.

resister
06-20-2017, 05:38 PM
It was started by democrats, but the same democrats that oppose muslims, gay marriage, police brutality, jews, hispanics, and interracial marriage....oh wait.

No, that equation does not equal zero, so there must be another variable in place that explains it....maybe it was the southern conservatives that didn't have the party lines that are in place today that started the KKK. For the slow ones that try to act smart, it was called ideology not party at that time.
lawlz:f_whistle:

Safety
06-20-2017, 05:43 PM
lawlz:f_whistle:

Exhibit A of someone living in the wrong era.

Lulz

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 05:43 PM
The KKK wasn't started by former Confederate soldiers? Seriously? Are you $#@!ting me or do you actually believe that?

wow...

It was created by Democrats opposing Republican policies. Don't try to swerve away from your comments.

resister
06-20-2017, 05:45 PM
It was created by Democrats opposing Republican policies. Don't try to swerve away from your comments.Oh, he gone !:f_run: His own links proved him Wrong! lol

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 05:53 PM
Oh, he gone !:f_run: His own links proved him Wrong! lol

Gee. Am I supposed to be surprised?

Cletus
06-20-2017, 06:10 PM
I didn't say they were Republicans. I said (or implied) they "are" right wing.

"(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)"

Your words.

Tahuyaman
06-20-2017, 06:33 PM
I didn't say they were Republicans....


Yes you did. You know you did. Don't try to back away from that now.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 09:38 PM
Yes you did. You know you did. Don't try to back away from that now.
Show me where I said that.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 09:41 PM
"(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)"

Seriously @Common Sense (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1085) ??

The four links you posted even refute that bazaar statement.

Really?

"Origins and Initial GrowthEx-Confederate soldiers established the Ku Klux Klan in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866. They developed the first two words of the group's name from the Greek word kuklos, meaning "group or band," and took the third as a variant of the word clan. Starting as a largely recreational group, the Klan soon turned to intimidating newly freed African Americans. Riding at night, the Klan terrorized and sometimes murdered those it opposed. Members adopted a hooded white costume—a guise intended to represent the ghosts of the Confederate dead—to avoid identification and to frighten victims during nighttime raids."


or...

"The Klan began in Tennessee, in the small town of Pulaski, near Memphis. It was founded by Confederate army veterans at a drinking club there and the strange but memorable name was a combination of ‘clan’ and the Greek word kuklos, meaning ‘circle’ or, in this case, social club. Dressed up in scary costumes with hoods and masks, members rode about at night threatening and frightening blacks. They demanded that blacks either vote Democrat or not vote at all. They met defiance with beatings, whippings and sometimes murder. They burned blacks’ houses down and drove black farmers off their land and they extended their hostilities to southern whites who opposed them and the so-called ‘carpetbaggers’, white infiltrators from the North. "

Safety
06-20-2017, 09:44 PM
Really?

"Origins and Initial GrowthEx-Confederate soldiers established the Ku Klux Klan in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866. They developed the first two words of the group's name from the Greek word kuklos, meaning "group or band," and took the third as a variant of the word clan. Starting as a largely recreational group, the Klan soon turned to intimidating newly freed African Americans. Riding at night, the Klan terrorized and sometimes murdered those it opposed. Members adopted a hooded white costume—a guise intended to represent the ghosts of the Confederate dead—to avoid identification and to frighten victims during nighttime raids."


or...

"The Klan began in Tennessee, in the small town of Pulaski, near Memphis. It was founded by Confederate army veterans at a drinking club there and the strange but memorable name was a combination of ‘clan’ and the Greek word kuklos, meaning ‘circle’ or, in this case, social club. Dressed up in scary costumes with hoods and masks, members rode about at night threatening and frightening blacks. They demanded that blacks either vote Democrat or not vote at all. They met defiance with beatings, whippings and sometimes murder. They burned blacks’ houses down and drove black farmers off their land and they extended their hostilities to southern whites who opposed them and the so-called ‘carpetbaggers’, white infiltrators from the North. "






Shame on you, you said republicans, so you must be flogged. Even though there is little to no difference in what the ideologies of the south and conservatives to the republicans today.

hanger4
06-20-2017, 10:32 PM
Really?

"Origins and Initial GrowthEx-Confederate soldiers established the Ku Klux Klan in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866. They developed the first two words of the group's name from the Greek word kuklos, meaning "group or band," and took the third as a variant of the word clan. Starting as a largely recreational group, the Klan soon turned to intimidating newly freed African Americans. Riding at night, the Klan terrorized and sometimes murdered those it opposed. Members adopted a hooded white costume—a guise intended to represent the ghosts of the Confederate dead—to avoid identification and to frighten victims during nighttime raids."


or...

"The Klan began in Tennessee, in the small town of Pulaski, near Memphis. It was founded by Confederate army veterans at a drinking club there and the strange but memorable name was a combination of ‘clan’ and the Greek word kuklos, meaning ‘circle’ or, in this case, social club. Dressed up in scary costumes with hoods and masks, members rode about at night threatening and frightening blacks. They demanded that blacks either vote Democrat or not vote at all. They met defiance with beatings, whippings and sometimes murder. They burned blacks’ houses down and drove black farmers off their land and they extended their hostilities to southern whites who opposed them and the so-called ‘carpetbaggers’, white infiltrators from the North. "






Really !! "Confederate Republicans" starting the kkk is nowhere mentioned CS.

resister
06-20-2017, 10:36 PM
Really !! "Confederate Republicans" starting the kkk is nowhere mentioned CS.
Deny, deflect, then insult.....not in any particular order.

resister
06-20-2017, 10:39 PM
Show me where I said that.
Post # 110.

I would deny it too.

If it was possible.....lol

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 10:40 PM
"(actually the KKK started as a group of Confederate Republicans as a reaction to federal progressive Restruction policies)"

Your words.
I honestly didn't mean to write Republicans and I was shocked to see that I did. My mistake. I honestly just meant to write confederate veterans.

Belive me or not. I didn't mean to write Republican.

resister
06-20-2017, 10:41 PM
I honestly didn't mean to write Republicans and I was shocked to see that I did. My mistake. I honestly just meant to write confederate veterans.

Belive me or not. I didn't mean to write Republican.
lol

resister
06-20-2017, 10:42 PM
lol
Then goes on to argue that the democrats did not start the Klan, super LOL

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 10:44 PM
Post # 110.

I would deny it too.

If it was possible.....lol

Why would I argue so adamantly that I didn't say it if I had meant to say it? I mistakenly wrote it for whatever reason. I honestly didn't mean to. It doesn't make any sense either as the confederates weren't Republicans.
For whatever reason I wrote it. I didn't mean to. I apologize.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 10:45 PM
Then goes on to argue that the democrats did not start the Klan, super LOL
The Dems didn't start the KKK. Confederate veterans did.

resister
06-20-2017, 10:47 PM
The Dems didn't start the KKK. Confederate veterans did.

So what party did they belong too?

resister
06-20-2017, 10:49 PM
Why would I argue so adamantly that I didn't say it if I had meant to say it? I mistakenly wrote it for whatever reason. I honestly didn't mean to. It doesn't make any sense either as the confederates weren't Republicans.
For whatever reason I wrote it. I didn't mean to. I apologize.
I give you the benefit of the doubt, "republican" and "veteran" are easy to mistype!

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 10:53 PM
I give you the benefit of the doubt, "republican" and "veteran" are easy to mistype!
I don't care if people belive me. It would make no sense for me to call them Reps. These are the people who fought Lincoln's army. It's no wonder people called me out on it. Frankly I had no idea what they were going on about until I looked at my post.

Safety
06-20-2017, 10:53 PM
So what party did they belong too?

This should shut up any further questions about the KKK and what party they represented.

https://curricublog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/1964_cr_n-s.gif?w=587&h=827

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 10:53 PM
So what party did they belong too?
What part does the KKK belong to today?

del
06-20-2017, 10:55 PM
This should shut up any further questions about the KKK and what party they represented.

https://curricublog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/1964_cr_n-s.gif?w=587&h=827


i admire your optimism

resister
06-20-2017, 10:56 PM
What part does the KKK belong to today?
Good deflection, can you answer the question, WHAT PARTY FOUNDED THE KLAN?

At this point in the thread, it is easy to see why you would answer a question with a question.

Safety
06-20-2017, 10:56 PM
i admire your optimism

Well, it wasn't released by FOX, and Alex Jones didn't bless it, so I share your skepticism.

del
06-20-2017, 10:57 PM
no party founded the klan.

Safety
06-20-2017, 10:59 PM
no party founded the klan.

I will bet you 8 fossils that my post will be ignored and he will continue to harp about party.

resister
06-20-2017, 10:59 PM
no party founded the klan.
not what a Canadian said.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:01 PM
I will bet you 8 fossils that my post will be ignored and he will continue to harp about party.
Bet that up, homey. Your buddy CS bought it up. Now that he posted 5 or so links that proved it wrong.....

Safety
06-20-2017, 11:04 PM
Bet that up, homey. Your buddy CS bought it up. Now that he posted 5 or so links that proved it wrong.....

In which he apologized for typing the wrong term. I admire him for that, because he is one of a very few that would own up to a fuckup. Especially, in light of how some continue to harp on it like a chihuahua nipping at ankles.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:09 PM
Crazy people, like the guy at the baseball field will just become more active as well. It's time for it.
I don't agree. Sorry, no spinning this ^ jet

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:11 PM
Good deflection, can you answer the question, WHAT PARTY FOUNDED THE KLAN?

At this point in the thread, it is easy to see why you would answer a question with a question.

No party founded the Klan. I already said I mistakenly implied Republicans did. Former confederate soldiers did.

I asked the question to illustrate a point. If the Klan belongs to no party now, why is it necessary that they were founded by one?

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:13 PM
Bet that up, homey. Your buddy CS bought it up. Now that he posted 5 or so links that proved it wrong.....

I didn't bring it up. I was responding to the allegation that the Democrat party founded them. I mistakenly added Republicans when I did not intend to.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:15 PM
In which he apologized for typing the wrong term. I admire him for that, because he is one of a very few that would own up to a fuckup. I applaud any time someone owns a wrong.

Especially if you misspell veteran as republican.

Got any more spots open in safety spelling university?
On another note, gullible is not a word in the dictionary....

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:17 PM
I applaud any time someone owns a wrong.

Especially if you misspell veteran as republican.

Got any more spots open in safety spelling university?
On another note, gullible is not a word in the dictionary....
I didn't say misspelled. You calling me a liar?

I admit my errors. You can believe me or not.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:18 PM
No party founded the Klan. I already said I mistakenly implied Republicans did. Former confederate soldiers did.

I asked the question to illustrate a point. If the Klan belongs to no party now, why is it necessary that they were founded by one?
I would believe that, if you did not go on to defend it for like, at least 2 pages....:rollseyes: Pu-leese

Safety
06-20-2017, 11:18 PM
I applaud any time someone owns a wrong.

Especially if you misspell veteran as republican.

Got any more spots open in safety spelling university?
On another note, gullible is not a word in the dictionary....

Class is full, plus you didn't meet the prerequisites.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:19 PM
I didn't say misspelled. You calling me a liar?

I admit my errors. You can believe me or not.
No, not a liar, just defended it for umpteen post...

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:21 PM
I would believe that, if you did not go on to defend it for like, at least 2 pages....:rollseyes: Pu-leese

I didn't defend it. I claimed I didn't say it. Why would I claim I didn't say it if I thought I had?

anyways...I don't really care if you don't belive me, but I'm not a liar.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:27 PM
No, not a liar, just defended it for umpteen post...

...and actually you are accusing me of lying.

resister
06-20-2017, 11:28 PM
If some folks were not busted out on false claims, they would still be owning them.

Safety
06-20-2017, 11:29 PM
...and actually you are accusing me of lying.

Yup.

Common Sense
06-20-2017, 11:43 PM
If some folks were not busted out on false claims, they would still be owning them.
Get a grip dude.

Cletus
06-20-2017, 11:43 PM
I don't care if people belive me. It would make no sense for me to call them Reps. These are the people who fought Lincoln's army. It's no wonder people called me out on it. Frankly I had no idea what they were going on about until I looked at my post.

Don't worry about it, CS. It was probably just a case of your thoughts moving faster than your fingers.

I have done it more than once.

jet57
06-21-2017, 12:34 AM
I don't agree. Sorry, no spinning this ^ jet

What spinning; explain that.

resister
06-21-2017, 12:41 AM
What spinning; explain that.
You said "it is time" when referring to the congress shooting.

Sorry jet, you gotta own that

jet57
06-21-2017, 09:58 AM
You said "it is time" when referring to the congress shooting.

Sorry jet, you gotta own that

Nope; sorry you're spinning and misrepresenting what I said. The [overall backlash is what it's time for. That shooting is just a symptom.

It's important that you read what I'm writing and not read into it.