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Common
06-30-2017, 06:31 AM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

Dangermouse
06-30-2017, 07:59 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.

stjames1_53
06-30-2017, 07:59 AM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

you would think so, but the "feeling" crowd is just going to double down, again.
here comes the name calling...xenophobe, hater, racist.........I doubt it affects him at all

stjames1_53
06-30-2017, 08:00 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.
would you rather we simply shot them?

Common
06-30-2017, 08:07 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.
Very few prisons are for profit and if you think thats the reason for this law, well theres no point in explaining it to you

Hoosier8
06-30-2017, 08:10 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.
Best let them go to rape and kill. Liberal logic 101.

stjames1_53
06-30-2017, 08:16 AM
Very few prisons are for profit and if you think thats the reason for this law, well theres no point in explaining it to you
out-of-towners are so fun to play with

Common
06-30-2017, 08:19 AM
How anyone could make a law about illegal immigrants re entering the country more than twice after being deported into a plot to enhance the incomes of Prisons for Profit schemes IS UNBELIEVABLE. Liberals wonder why we laugh at them alot.

stjames1_53
06-30-2017, 08:44 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.

well, you're not an American, you don't pay taxes here..............you're irrelevant

Ransom
06-30-2017, 11:43 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.
Gosh but you're smart

:rolleyes:

Ransom
06-30-2017, 11:45 AM
well, you're not an American, you don't pay taxes here..............you're irrelevant
And would be a proponent of allowing illegal criminals like the one that killed Kate to roam our streets.

A solid reminder why we forced dangermouse and Cornwallis to surrender, We the People will govern this country. Leftists we're deporting as we speak both out of the halls of government and our nation.

resister
06-30-2017, 12:30 PM
Of course Democrats will not support this, they need the votes.

Peter1469
06-30-2017, 03:34 PM
Good law.

Private prisons are a separate issue and the problem is not the contractor- it is the government and its decision to only pay for warehousing criminals.

Adelaide
06-30-2017, 05:23 PM
Very few prisons are for profit and if you think thats the reason for this law, well theres no point in explaining it to you
It may not be the motivating factor, but sending thousands upon thousands (possibly millions) to prison for 5 years is pretty stupid when you already have a prison population problem.

And prison may be preferable compared to where they are coming from. Free food, free housing, free medical care...

Agent Zero
06-30-2017, 05:25 PM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

It won't make it past the Senate.

Common
06-30-2017, 05:26 PM
It may not be the motivating factor, but sending thousands upon thousands (possibly millions) to prison for 5 years is pretty stupid when you already have a prison population problem.

And prison may be preferable compared to where they are coming from. Free food, free housing, free medical care...

Theres not going to be hundreds of thousands, its not all illegals, its illegals that entered twice and were deported twice and come back a third time. Plus they have to get caught first.

Adelaide
06-30-2017, 05:30 PM
Theres not going to be hundreds of thousands, its not all illegals, its illegals that entered twice and were deported twice and come back a third time. Plus they have to get caught first.
The number of people deported by Obama and Trump equals a lot (I'd have to look up how many). It would likely be a lot of people crossing illegally again and if they got caught the first time I don't imagine they'd be much harder to catch the second or third time.

Common
06-30-2017, 05:32 PM
The number of people deported by Obama and Trump equals a lot (I'd have to look up how many). It would likely be a lot of people crossing illegally again and if they got caught the first time I don't imagine they'd be much harder to catch the second or third time.

They have to cross the border a third time after being deported twice and then get caught again.
It wont be hundreds of thousands, imo

Common
06-30-2017, 05:33 PM
It won't make it past the Senate.

You may be right

Agent Zero
06-30-2017, 05:44 PM
You may be right
I am right.

Cletus
06-30-2017, 05:47 PM
I am right.

It could happen, but it would be a first.

gamewell45
07-01-2017, 12:45 AM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

There are some people who say this bill does not go far enough; why allow them two chances when they could have been incarcerated the first time for crossing the border illegally?

resister
07-01-2017, 01:02 AM
There are some people who say this bill does not go far enough; why allow them two chances when they could have been incarcerated the first time for crossing the border illegally?
Good point, it is far to lenient.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:04 AM
Mandatory senteces fill up private for-profit prisons, paid for by the taxpayer. YAY!.

Don't come here illegally, and don't overstay your visit, and you won't get in any trouble whatsoever. Problem solved.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:06 AM
It may not be the motivating factor, but sending thousands upon thousands (possibly millions) to prison for 5 years is pretty stupid when you already have a prison population problem.
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.

resister
07-01-2017, 01:08 AM
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.
If Mexico wont take them, put them adrift in international waters.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:10 AM
If Mexico wont take them, put them adrift in international waters.
Who cares if mexico won't take them. We can keep lobbing them back and forth over the wall until the inevitable happens (unless they grow wings, that is).

resister
07-01-2017, 01:17 AM
Who cares if mexico won't take them. We can keep lobbing them back and forth over the wall until the inevitable happens (unless they grow wings, that is).
When pigs fly :) Make it clear they are not welcome, unbuild it and they will go!

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:20 AM
When pigs fly :) Make it clear they are not welcome, unbuild it and they will go!

Yep. Remove the liberal nanny-state incentive and they'll stop coming.

donttread
07-01-2017, 06:38 AM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

Why do we always think we can solve the failure of current laws with more laws instead of better enforcement and in this case border security?

Adelaide
07-01-2017, 11:07 AM
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.

Except they could keep coming back (which is the problem the law is trying to address). Imprisoning them is a massive waste of money and resources but so is repeatedly deporting the same people. Though, I would imagine deportation is more affordable.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 11:14 AM
Except they could keep coming back (which is the problem the law is trying to address). Imprisoning them is a massive waste of money and resources but so is repeatedly deporting the same people. Though, I would imagine deportation is more affordable.
This:

Who cares if mexico won't take them. We can keep lobbing them back and forth over the wall until the inevitable happens (unless they grow wings, that is).

Or subject 2nd time offenders to death. Make sure they know when they're deported the first time so they are free to choose to risk their lives coming back through illegal means.

Adelaide
07-01-2017, 11:54 AM
This:


Or subject 2nd time offenders to death. Make sure they know when they're deported the first time so they are free to choose to risk their lives coming back through illegal means.
So you don't support the law?

Killing thousands of people is a bit... well, nuts.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 11:57 AM
So you don't support the law?
Which law?

Killing thousands of people is a bit... well, nuts.
If a government catches me breaking its law, and tells me if I do it again I will be put to death, whose fault is it if I do it again and get killed?

resister
07-01-2017, 11:58 AM
So you don't support the law?

Killing thousands of people is a bit... well, nuts.
I'm for setting em adrift in international waters, with adequate provisions to get them to wherever they choose to go.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 11:59 AM
I'm for setting em adrift in international waters, with adequate provisions to get them to wherever they choose to go.

Ankle chains and anchors should do the trick.

stjames1_53
07-01-2017, 12:00 PM
So you don't support the law?

Killing thousands of people is a bit... well, nuts.
killing tens of thousands of US citizens who need the medical cost, housing and education the illegals are draining. is a bit insane too
How many US citizens are you willing to sacrifice for illegal alien criminals?

resister
07-01-2017, 12:01 PM
Ankle chains and anchors should do the trick.
I'm hoarding lead, but I aint coming off none :)

Adelaide
07-01-2017, 12:33 PM
Which law?

If a government catches me breaking its law, and tells me if I do it again I will be put to death, whose fault is it if I do it again and get killed?

... the law that the thread is about...

Standing Wolf
07-01-2017, 12:57 PM
I understand that I'm setting myself up to be dog-piled here, but - what the Hell.

While I harbor absolutely no merciful sentiments toward violent criminals - whether they are here illegally for the first or tenth time, or were born here - I do have a problem with sending people to prison for something like crossing the border illegally. Yes, I understand it's a criminal violation of U.S. law - you don't have to remind me of that. It is simply that the great majority of individuals who would be caught up in such a scheme would be men returning to the States for one or both of two reasons: to work in order to support their families, and to be with those families, which they left here.

Addressing those members with families: is there anything you would not risk, any border or other obstacle you would not cross, any personal sacrifice you would not make in order to safeguard and support your spouse and children? Target the drug smugglers, the thieves, the sex traffickers, etc., with everything the legal system can devise to stop or punish them, but put yourself in the place of a man who loves his family and is willing to do anything he can to keep them (and himself) alive and safe.

resister
07-01-2017, 01:00 PM
I understand that I'm setting myself up to be dog-piled here, but - what the Hell.

While I harbor absolutely no merciful sentiments toward violent criminals - whether they are here illegally for the first or tenth time, or were born here - I do have a problem with sending people to prison for something like crossing the border illegally. Yes, I understand it's a criminal violation of U.S. law - you don't have to remind me of that. It is simply that the great majority of individuals who would be caught up in such a scheme would be men returning to the States for one or both of two reasons: to work in order to support their families, and to be with those families, which they left here.

Addressing those members with families: is there anything you would not risk, any border or other obstacle you would not cross, any personal sacrifice you would not make in order to safeguard and support your spouse and children? Target the drug smugglers, the thieves, the sex traffickers, etc., with everything the legal system can devise to stop or punish them, but put yourself in the place of a man who loves his family and is willing to do anything he can to keep them (and himself) alive and safe.
Every drug mule claims to come here for work.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:52 PM
... the law that the thread is about...
I think it's a step in the right direction, but more could be done to protect our citizens.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 01:54 PM
I understand that I'm setting myself up to be dog-piled here, but - what the Hell.

While I harbor absolutely no merciful sentiments toward violent criminals - whether they are here illegally for the first or tenth time, or were born here - I do have a problem with sending people to prison for something like crossing the border illegally. Yes, I understand it's a criminal violation of U.S. law - you don't have to remind me of that. It is simply that the great majority of individuals who would be caught up in such a scheme would be men returning to the States for one or both of two reasons: to work in order to support their families, and to be with those families, which they left here.

Addressing those members with families: is there anything you would not risk, any border or other obstacle you would not cross, any personal sacrifice you would not make in order to safeguard and support your spouse and children? Target the drug smugglers, the thieves, the sex traffickers, etc., with everything the legal system can devise to stop or punish them, but put yourself in the place of a man who loves his family and is willing to do anything he can to keep them (and himself) alive and safe.
The trick is to make the punishment so severe that no one will take the risk.

stjames1_53
07-01-2017, 01:56 PM
The trick is to make the punishment so severe that no one will take the risk.
public caning. I'm in for that

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 02:01 PM
public caning. I'm in for that
Too lenient. First offense - deportation and huge fine (or work fine off doing labor, like wall construction, then deported), second offense - firing squad.
No pity for 2nd timers, they were warned.

Agent Zero
07-01-2017, 06:36 PM
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.


If Mexico wont take them, put them adrift in international waters.

You do realize most of them aren't Mexican, right?

Or do you just assume so because they have brown skin?

Mister D
07-01-2017, 06:38 PM
You do realize most of them aren't Mexican, right?

Or do you just assume so because they have brown skin?
You really are a one trick pony. lol

stjames1_53
07-01-2017, 06:38 PM
You do realize most of them aren't Mexican, right?

Or do you just assume so because they have brown skin?

most of them came across the Rio, they can go back the same way, or north to Canada..............either way works for me

Mister D
07-01-2017, 06:42 PM
most of them came across the Rio, they can go back the same way, or north to Canada..............either way works for me
Most illegal aliens are in fact of Mexican origin and a large majority enter via the US/Mexico border.

Kalkin
07-01-2017, 07:23 PM
You do realize most of them aren't Mexican, right?

Or do you just assume so because they have brown skin?
Who said they were all mexican? Not I. That's just the closest border that'll have a wall for launching them over.

Crepitus
07-01-2017, 07:27 PM
Absolutely no american should be against this law.

Kate's Law, which mandates a minimum five-year prison sentence for anyone who reenters the country illegally at least twice after being deported, passed (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/house-passes-kate-s-law-as-part-illegal-immigrant-crackdown.html) the House of Representatives on Thursday with a vote of 257 to 157.
Kate Steinle was just 32 years old when she was murdered by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in July 2015. Her murderer had been deported five times. He should not have been in the United States. Yet, there he was, sheltered in a sanctuary city.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced Kate’s Law in the House and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who first introduced the legislation in July 2015, brought it back to the Senate this past January.
The House also passed (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2017/06/29/house-passes-bill-defunding-sanctuary-cities-n2348683) the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act on Thursday, which would strip any city from federal funding if they refuse to cooperate with immigration officials.
President Trump has often met with families who have lost loved ones to illegal immigrant crime, even inviting (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292431-trump-brings-mothers-of-children-killed-by-undocumented-immigrants-on-stage) many to come on the campaign trail with him last year. He hosted (https://nypost.com/2017/06/28/trump-pledges-crackdown-to-families-of-victims-killed-by-illegal-immigrants/) many of these grieving families Wednesday night at the White House, on the eve of the important immigration votes, where he told them that their loved ones did not die in vain.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/06/29/kates-law-n2348456

So? If Ryan puts anything up for a vote it's gonna pass the house. They are pretending to make a difference.

Mister D
07-01-2017, 09:55 PM
Who said they were all mexican? Not I. That's just the closest border that'll have a wall for launching them over.
It never ceases to amaze just how frivolous your average progressive is with accusations of racism.
@IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399) this what we're talking about. I can honestly understand someone assuming something like that about my comments but most of conservatives/libertarians here like @Kalkin (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=683) ,for example, simply don't hold controversial views on race. There is no reason for it. It's a cop out.

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 05:16 AM
So? If Ryan puts anything up for a vote it's gonna pass the house. They are pretending to make a difference.

nonsequitor

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 09:54 AM
nonsequitor

Truth. And on topic

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 10:08 AM
what did your statement have to do with the OP?
Ryan wasn't the only one to vote on Kate's Law....why are are you against this?


Truth. And on topic

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 10:17 AM
what did your statement have to do with the OP?
Ryan wasn't the only one to vote on Kate's Law....why are are you against this?

I actually don't have an opinion one way or the other on the law, imho it's a pretty meaningless piece of "feel better" junk. My point is it's passage is wholly unremarkable as the republican led house wants to be seen as "doing something".

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 10:20 AM
I actually don't have an opinion one way or the other on the law, imho it's a pretty meaningless piece of "feel better" junk. My point is it's passage is wholly unremarkable as the republican led house wants to be seen as "doing something".
it'll be used to run more illegal aliens out....and you are against it. If Obama had passed it, you'd be singing high praises. This takes a serious bite out of sanctuary cities and states

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 10:37 AM
it'll be used to run more illegal aliens out....and you are against it. If Obama had passed it, you'd be singing high praises. This takes a serious bite out of sanctuary cities and states

It won't do diddly shit. It just something to make them feel like they are "doing something".

Useless make work nonsense.

Adelaide
07-02-2017, 10:57 AM
It never ceases to amaze just how frivolous your average progressive is with accusations of racism.
@IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399) this what we're talking about. I can honestly understand someone assuming something like that about my comments but most of conservatives/libertarians here like @Kalkin (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=683) ,for example, simply don't hold controversial views on race. There is no reason for it. It's a cop out.

The accusation of racism is overused and risks turning the term meaningless. Sort of like calling something sexist. The majority of people just roll their eyes because someone is always saying something is racist or sexist. Honestly, I find that a lot of things and people show a level of ignorance about issues like race and gender, but most people are not intentionally ignorant or hateful. I try to leave calling someone a racist or sexist or bigot for the people who do intentionally say or act in that way, usually outrageously. Is racism a problem in the United States? Sure, but a lot of it seems like unintentional ignorance. That's my opinion, as a scary progressive.

Also, I find that people need to pick their battles. Calling everything racist or sexist will eventually diminish how seriously you're taken by many people.

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 05:43 PM
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.


You really are a one trick pony. lol

As are you.

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 05:47 PM
Most illegal aliens are in fact of Mexican origin and a large majority enter via the US/Mexico border.
No more...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/25/525563818/mexicans-no-longer-make-up-majority-of-immigrants-in-u-s-illegally

Most illegal immigrants come from Mexico, but do not originate from there. They originate from South America.

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 05:48 PM
It won't do diddly $#@!. It just something to make them feel like they are "doing something".

Useless make work nonsense.

dude, they're already headed north an south. many have stopped filing for SNAP cuz they know they'll get busted....Trump is already saving us money

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 05:48 PM
No more...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/25/525563818/mexicans-no-longer-make-up-majority-of-immigrants-in-u-s-illegally

Most illegal immigrants come from Mexico, but do not originate from there. They originate from South America.

it doesn't matter, north or south...get out of Dodge

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 05:49 PM
Don't imprison them, just drop them on the other side of the wall. Mexico's problem now.


It never ceases to amaze just how frivolous your average progressive is with accusations of racism.
@IMPress Polly (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=399) this what we're talking about. I can honestly understand someone assuming something like that about my comments but most of conservatives/libertarians here like @Kalkin (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=683) ,for example, simply don't hold controversial views on race. There is no reason for it. It's a cop out.

I don't know who any of those people are, but in just a few posts (as I told you before) you are certifiable Grand Wizard material.

Mister D
07-02-2017, 05:54 PM
I don't know who any of those people are, but in just a few posts (as I told you before) you are certifiable Grand Wizard material.
lol

Mister D
07-02-2017, 06:01 PM
No more...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/25/525563818/mexicans-no-longer-make-up-majority-of-immigrants-in-u-s-illegally

Most illegal immigrants come from Mexico, but do not originate from there. They originate from South America.


In 2015, according to the Center’s new estimate, they declined to 5.6 million, or 51% of the total. And in 2016, according to the Center’s preliminary estimate, the number of unauthorized immigrants from Mexico was the same, but their share fell to 50% of the total, marking the first time since at least 2005 that Mexicans did not account for a majority of the unauthorized immigrant population.


So for the year 2016 preliminary estimates show that Mexicans made up only 50% of the total. lol

Yes, we know that most of them come via the US/Mexico border. That's why it was suggested they be sent back there.

You try so hard but...total zero. lol

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:04 PM
I don't know who any of those people are, but in just a few posts (as I told you before) you are certifiable Grand Wizard material.

sh!t!!! you've divided by zero, again

Kalkin
07-02-2017, 09:59 PM
As are you.
It's a badass trick, though! Why do you call yourself Zero?