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KathyS
07-02-2017, 05:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_l2aJmfgGUA bit long, but a good summation of the fake news CNN has promoted as viable. Ann Coulter is a guest on The View and the narrator breaks down the remarks made by Whoopi, et. al. Analysis begins around the 14 minute mark.

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 05:50 PM
Taken off You Tube. Is this the O'Keefe scam video?

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_l2aJmfgGUA bit long, but a good summation of the fake news CNN has promoted as viable. Ann Coulter is a guest on The View and the narrator breaks down the remarks made by Whoopi, et. al. Analysis begins around the 14 minute mark.

best I could do on short notice:

https://youtu.be/PWlktYP2wlM

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:00 PM
https://youtu.be/EulrIE6g4aU

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 06:04 PM
best I could do on short notice:

https://youtu.be/PWlktYP2wlM
Yeah. That's not the one but it's all about O'Keefe's lies.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/85316-CNN-Staffer-Caught-Maligning-Trump-in-Undercover-Video-THR-News?p=2073126&viewfull=1#post2073126


Conservative activist James O’Keefe caused a stir on Tuesday with the release of a secretly recorded video that purports to show a CNN producer casting doubt on his network’s coverage of possible collusion between President Trump’s associates and Russian officials.

But it’s what the video doesn’t show that may be as important as what it does.

The video is a recording of several encounters between a CNN producer named John Bonifield and an unidentified man who was working for O’Keefe’s organization, Project Veritas, which engages in undercover “stings” aimed primarily at mainstream news organizations and liberal groups.

Their work has been repeatedly criticized for intentionally deceptive editing, though, and O’Keefe has a criminal record from an effort to illegally infiltrate a Democratic senator’s office.
The latest video was apparently shot earlier this month using a hidden camera by a man having a private conversation with Bonfield, who is not involved in political coverage, catching him making several off-the-cuff remarks.

At one point, the producer says the Trump-Russia story could be “bulls---” but that CNN keeps covering the story because it draws viewers. “I just feel like they don’t really have it, but they want to keep digging,” Bonifield says. “And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. Like you have no smoking gun, you have no real proof.”

The video drew endorsements from Donald Trump Jr., who tweeted his approval, and White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who told reporters at a briefing that she encouraged “everybody across the country” to view it. She characterized it as “a disgrace to all of media, to all of journalism.”

Yet the video includes several journalistic evasions and shortcuts that would likely elicit outrage from critics if a mainstream news organization had employed the same techniques.

For example, it never mentions that Bonifield is a producer of health and medical stories, raising questions about how relevant his views are, and how informed he is, about CNN’s political coverage.

The video identifies him as a “supervising producer,” suggesting a senior decision-making role. O’Keefe, who appears on the video as a kind of master of ceremonies, furthers this impression by saying the footage describes “the real motivation behind our dominant media organizations.”

But CNN said Bonifield speaks only for himself. In a statement, it said stood by him and that “diversity of personal opinion is what makes CNN strong. We welcome it and embrace it.” The network said it had no plans to take any disciplinary action.

And I just smile with amusement when the right accuses the left of fake news, then trots out InfoWars to prove it. The same guys that claimed Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing never happened and many more conspiracies.

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 06:05 PM
https://youtu.be/EulrIE6g4aU
Now, that's fake news!

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:07 PM
Yeah. That's not the one but it's all about O'Keefe's lies.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/85316-CNN-Staffer-Caught-Maligning-Trump-in-Undercover-Video-THR-News?p=2073126&viewfull=1#post2073126



And I just smile with amusement when the right accuses the left of fake news, then trots out InfoWars to prove it. The same guys that claimed Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing never happened and many more conspiracies.

are you saying that CNN's self-professed bad faith is not real?

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:07 PM
Now, that's fake news!

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/

proudly brought to you courtesy of CNN

Agent Zero
07-02-2017, 06:09 PM
are you saying that CNN's self-professed bad faith is not real?

No. That one individual is, but he was misrepresented by O'Keefe.

Ransom
07-02-2017, 06:20 PM
Is that Van Jones claiming this entire Russia mess is a nothing burger.

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:28 PM
Is that Van Jones claiming this entire Russia mess is a nothing burger.

yeppers......

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 06:34 PM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:36 PM
No. That one individual is, but he was misrepresented by O'Keefe.

why is it you're going down with the ship? AP has just about disowned CNN, now preferring their own sources. AS CNN looses traction, you guys a willing to throw yourselves under a bus that didn't care enough about YOU to at least remain fair and impartial. They neither cared for their adherents nor for truth and impartiality.
You got a right to be peeved, but not at us. Be mad at them.

Hoosier8
07-02-2017, 06:37 PM
Taken off You Tube. Is this the O'Keefe scam video?

O'Keefe appears to be one of the only ones doing actual investigative journalism in today's current media paradigm. CNN certainly isn't.

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 06:38 PM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!

you're so sad...................

KathyS
07-02-2017, 06:44 PM
Taken off You Tube. Is this the O'Keefe scam video?

No.

Ransom
07-02-2017, 06:52 PM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!
But Crepitus.....was that Van Jones claiming nothing burger......or not?

Chris
07-02-2017, 06:53 PM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!


Spurious claim.

According to Merriam-Webster's The Real Story of 'Fake News' (https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-real-story-of-fake-news):


The printing and dissemination of spurious news is hardly new, but the term fake news is. However, when we say that an English word is “new,” we are using a broader meaning of that word than if we were to refer to, say, a musical genre. Fake news appears to have begun seeing general use at the end of the 19th century.



Secretary Brunnell Declares Fake News About His People is Being Telegraphed Over the Country.
—Cincinnati Commercial Tribune (Concinnati, OH), 7 Jun. 1890

Fake News. The following is handed to us for publication: Sunday’s Enterprise says that I and a companion were run over by the Neptune and thrown into the water. As can be proved by more than one, we did not so much as get our feet wet, nor were we helped into the Neptune. Clarence Collins.
—The Kearney Daily Hub (Kearney, NE), 7 Jul. 1890

The public taste is not really vitiated and it does not in its desire for ‘news’ absolutely crave for distortions of facts and enlargements of incidents; and it certainly has no genuine appetite for ‘fake news’ and ‘special fiend’ decoctions such as were served up by a local syndicate a year or two ago.
—The Buffalo Commercial (Buffalo, NY), 2 May 1891

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 07:25 PM
you're so sad...................

No, I'm pretty amused right now.

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 07:27 PM
But Crepitus.....was that Van Jones claiming nothing burger......or not?

Not. One guy hitching when he thinks he's in private don't mean shit.

resister
07-02-2017, 07:27 PM
these threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!

toasters!

resister
07-02-2017, 07:28 PM
Not. One guy hitching when he thinks he's in private don't mean shit.
Like grab em by the kitty? what 15 years ago? lol Double standards often?

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 07:29 PM
Spurious claim.

According to Merriam-Webster's The Real Story of 'Fake News' (https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-real-story-of-fake-news):

Don't care what Websters says, I was here for the whole campaign and I saw it happen.

Chris
07-02-2017, 07:32 PM
Don't care what Websters says, I was here for the whole campaign and I saw it happen.

IOW, you prefer your own facts.

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 07:33 PM
Like grab em by the kitty? what 15 years ago? lol Double standards often?

That one guy is not the president, and it isn't part of an ongoing and well known pattern

Peter1469
07-02-2017, 07:37 PM
Taken off You Tube. Is this the O'Keefe scam video?

lol

Common
07-02-2017, 07:37 PM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!
Crepitus, you need to take a step back, you are starting to sputter and sometimes just not make sense. You constantly accuse the right of doing what the thread says the left did.

The left is not always right therefore neither are you

Hoosier8
07-02-2017, 08:04 PM
Trump tweets and creates a black hole in the media space time continuum.

The media.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/obamabots.gif?w=513&h=385

stjames1_53
07-02-2017, 08:21 PM
Don't care what Websters says, I was here for the whole campaign and I saw it happen.


typical....pssssssst, Webster's right

resister
07-02-2017, 08:29 PM
That one guy is not the president, and it isn't part of an ongoing and well known pattern
Please link "ongoing and well known" whose kitty has he grabbed lately?

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 09:36 PM
IOW, you prefer your own facts.

No. I'm talking about the recent usage, not 125 years ago.

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 09:38 PM
Please link "ongoing and well known" whose kitty has he grabbed lately?

Thats from 2016, there's probably more by now.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 09:41 PM
typical....pssssssst, Webster's right

Toasters

resister
07-02-2017, 09:44 PM
Thats from 2016, there's probably more by now.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct
And you talk about fake news. When was the comment made, your implied post is BS and is unrelated to your claim.

Where are his accusers (gold diggers) now?

Crepitus
07-02-2017, 10:07 PM
And you talk about fake news. When was the comment made, your implied post is BS and is unrelated to your claim.

Where are his accusers (gold diggers) now?

LOL, There it is again!

stjames1_53
07-03-2017, 03:10 AM
LOL, There it is again!

yeah, I forgot about that one. Where's those 35 women who accused Trump during the primaries, of grabbing them?
Did the little liars all run away? Why not just sue him, like they claimed they were going to do?
.............ding

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 07:55 AM
yeah, I forgot about that one. Where's those 35 women who accused Trump during the primaries, of grabbing them?
Did the little liars all run away? Why not just sue him, like they claimed they were going to do?
.............ding

He settled with them to shut them up.

stjames1_53
07-03-2017, 07:56 AM
He settled with them to shut them up.

find a link that verifies you statement, ding

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 08:07 AM
find a link that verifies you statement, ding

Dong

stjames1_53
07-03-2017, 08:11 AM
Dong

figured you'd lie about that claim

DGUtley
07-03-2017, 08:18 AM
He settled with them to shut them up.

Link please?

Chris
07-03-2017, 08:31 AM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!


No. I'm talking about the recent usage, not 125 years ago.


You said invented. You're the one inventing, facts and now what you said.

pragmatic
07-03-2017, 08:42 AM
Thats from 2016, there's probably more by now.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct


A porn star claims Trump gave her a kiss without permission at a charity golf tournament??

Yep, this could be big.

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 06:34 PM
Link please?

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/trump-campaign-lawsuits-settlements

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 06:36 PM
You said invented. You're the one inventing, facts and now what you said.

Uh huh, and those people knew all about the coining of that term 125 years ago right? Just like you did even before you looked it up.

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 06:40 PM
A porn star claims Trump gave her a kiss without permission at a charity golf tournament??

Yep, this could be big.

Let us be real for a moment. You and most of the other trumpkins here would say the same kinda thing if he was caught on camera with his pants down chasing her around wouldn't you?

Dangermouse
07-03-2017, 06:49 PM
Let us be real for a moment. You and most of the other trumpkins here would say the same kinda thing if he was caught on camera with his pants down chasing her around wouldn't you?

It would have to be packaged in a youtube vid to get their attention.

Crepitus
07-03-2017, 06:53 PM
It would have to be packaged in a youtube vid to get their attention.

And even then they'd cry "fake news!"

Hoosier8
07-04-2017, 12:29 AM
Let us be real for a moment. You and most of the other trumpkins here would say the same kinda thing if he was caught on camera with his pants down chasing her around wouldn't you?

Or we could just claim it wasn't sex like a blowjob in the Oval Office.

KathyS
07-04-2017, 12:44 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/trump-campaign-lawsuits-settlements

C'mon Crepitus, Vanity Fair as an unbiased source? You're better than that....

KathyS
07-04-2017, 12:45 AM
Let us be real for a moment. You and most of the other trumpkins here would say the same kinda thing if he was caught on camera with his pants down chasing her around wouldn't you?
Nope, that would really piss me off.

Chris
07-04-2017, 07:54 AM
These threads crack me up.

The right invented fake news, now they try to push it off on us.

Hilarious!


Uh huh, and those people knew all about the coining of that term 125 years ago right? Just like you did even before you looked it up.


So let's see, we have your imagination, and then we have the facts. Face it, for once, you were wrong. Stop digging.

pragmatic
07-04-2017, 01:44 PM
Let us be real for a moment. You and most of the other trumpkins here would say the same kinda thing if he was caught on camera with his pants down chasing her around wouldn't you?

Not a fan of Trump. Never have been.

On the other hand, you're the idiot who posted a link to an alleged unwanted kiss to a porn star. Ten years ago. Your excessive derangement with Trump is duly noted.


"The allegations against Donald Trump of inappropriate sexual behavior had quieted down, but another woman spoke up Thursday — and on Saturday, one more woman came forward. The latest accuser, Jessica Drake, held a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred, in which the adult film actress alleged that Trump kissed her without permission at golf tournament 10 years ago in Tahoe, Calif."

Crepitus
07-04-2017, 04:23 PM
Or we could just claim it wasn't sex like a blowjob in the Oval Office.

I'm gonna take that weak attempt at deflection to mean "yes".

Crepitus
07-04-2017, 04:27 PM
C'mon Crepitus, Vanity Fair as an unbiased source? You're better than that....

I tell ya what, Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+settles+sexual+harassment+suits)

Crepitus
07-04-2017, 04:31 PM
Nope, that would really piss me off.

Then how come you seem to be OK with these? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+trump+sexual+harassment+accusations)

stjames1_53
07-04-2017, 04:33 PM
Then how come you seem to be OK with these? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+trump+sexual+harassment+accusations)
allegations don't mean piss..................just like everything else you post that accuses without proof......

Adelaide
07-04-2017, 04:37 PM
Please discuss the topic and don't insult one another.