Wisconsin Republican looks back with regret at party's voter suppression efforts

[Bethere]

A tremendous read!

Your thoughts?

Wisconsin Republican looks back with regret at party's voter suppression efforts

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/wisconsin-republican-looks-back-with-regret-at-partys-voter-suppression-efforts/

[stjames1_53]

"thoughts" and you are not synonymous and you damned sure don't care what anyone else thinks

[Bethere]

"thoughts" and you are not synonymous and you damned sure don't care what anyone else thinks

Bethere isn't the topic of this thread.

[leekohler2]

A tremendous read!

Your thoughts?

Wisconsin Republican looks back with regret at party's voter suppression efforts

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/wisconsin-republican-looks-back-with-regret-at-partys-voter-suppression-efforts/
Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Ah, just finished reading it. I was puzzled as to why this person was saying what he was saying now. Well, he's no longer in office. Too little, too late in my book. His regret is kind of empty and meaningless now.

[resister]

Yeah, expecting people to obtain a 28$ id card is soooo supressive:rollseyes:

[leekohler2]

Yeah, expecting people to obtain a 28$ id card is soooo supressive:rollseyes:
You could read the article.

[texan]

A tremendous read!

Your thoughts?

Wisconsin Republican looks back with regret at party's voter suppression efforts

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/wisconsin-republican-looks-back-with-regret-at-partys-voter-suppression-efforts/

I don't about it being a tremendous read. It was an honest opinion of a guy involved. The biggest thing I took away was people not knowing about the changes. But if reasonable notifications were employed and followed I don't see a problem. I would say there will be an adjustment period to any changes like this one. Change isn't without its potholes. Not changing from an archaic method and progressing is a problem. This isn't 1960 where race was an issue here or people can't get an ID. Bet if we paid a $10 VISA bonus card everyone would ID up without being told twice.

[Bethere]

I don't about it being a tremendous read. It was an honest opinion of a guy involved. The biggest thing I took away was people not knowing about the changes. But if reasonable notifications were employed and followed I don't see a problem. I would say there will be an adjustment period to any changes like this one. Change isn't without its potholes. Not changing from an archaic method and progressing is a problem. This isn't 1960 where race was an issue here or people can't get an ID. Bet if we paid a $10 VISA bonus card everyone would ID up without being told twice.

It is unconstitutional to charge people to vote.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&ved=0ahUKEwig7fbr3_LUAhUE_IMKHTwoDzYQFggoMAI&usg=AFQjCNH-mK4rv-FNz5YMFE_NSk2HIE6aDw

[Captain Obvious]

My thoughts as requested.

Raw story is a hack source and the OP isn't worthy of my attention and is generally a complete waste.

You're welcome.

[Bethere]

My thoughts as requested.

Raw story is a hack source and the OP isn't worthy of my attention and is generally a complete waste.

You're welcome.

It's an interview. The source is the gop representative.

You have failed.

[Captain Obvious]

It's an interview. The source is the gop representative.

You have failed.

Nope but you just proved my second point.

Success!

Rawstory is no less a hack source. For bottom feeders like you.

[Bethere]

Nope but you just proved my second point.

Success!

Rawstory is no less a hack source. For bottom feeders like you.

You waste your time. I will never leave tPF.

[Captain Obvious]

You waste your time. I will never leave tPF.

a) Mindless projection coupled with self-victimization, par for your course

b) Like a roach never leaves the dumpster

[texan]

It is unconstitutional to charge people to vote.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&ved=0ahUKEwig7fbr3_LUAhUE_IMKHTwoDzYQFggoMAI&usg=AFQjCNH-mK4rv-FNz5YMFE_NSk2HIE6aDw

Interesting take, but I am pretty sure they give the cards away if you cant afford them.

[texan]

Typical as just open search in Google. It makes Bethere look silly.

http://elections.wi.gov/node/1917

"How to Get a Free State ID Card for Voting


The Wisconsin Department of Transportation provides free state ID cards for voting."

[Bethere]

Interesting take, but I am pretty sure they give the cards away if you cant afford them.

You are in the vast majority of jurisdictions in error.

[texan]

Randomly searching voter id's for states and just as suspected. They are all free.

Quite honestly with the over site from both parties you are not getting away with charging for voting.

You need to stop being ridiculous if you want to be taken seriously.......Also stop listening to the dem party on this as they are lying.

[leekohler2]

Nope but you just proved my second point.

Success!

Rawstory is no less a hack source. For bottom feeders like you.
Oh please. It's an interview. If you have a problem with an interview, then you need to talk to the interviewee. Are you accusing the interviewee of lying?

[leekohler2]

a) Mindless projection coupled with self-victimization, par for your course

b) Like a roach never leaves the dumpster

Can't argue the subject of the OP, par for the course with you.

[leekohler2]

My thoughts as requested.

Raw story is a hack source and the OP isn't worthy of my attention and is generally a complete waste.

You're welcome.

Then why are you posting?

[Bethere]

Randomly searching voter id's for states and just as suspected. They are all free.

Quite honestly with the over site from both parties you are not getting away with charging for voting.

You need to stop being ridiculous if you want to be taken seriously.......Also stop listening to the dem party on this as they are lying.

Nonsense, it's $8.50 here in Ohio. It's $16 in your state.

[texan]

https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnPLKBRC-ARIsAL_JTCzcVEe5f5AfplkW-n8ycFKwqsI6_nEzN2AnftL9csagfjAA0_pPLO8aAk6SEALw_wc B

https://regenbrampton.com/programs/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnPLKBRC-ARIsAL_JTCwcSgXjR4KUB5jsf67CsPlCnQSIwIWYwW9pXgtA6a 1qZN1sRR0eu7caAmVoEALw_wcB

https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnPLKBRC-ARIsAL_JTCyh49x4qzxLV0RAMOw29j56jV1Fnhal3aoLGQLVai vIrhfvFez0KdoaAqGVEALw_wcB

https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/FullReportVoterIDJune20141.pdf

"I cannot seem to rectify that claim with this Voter ID laws by state (http://ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/voter-id.aspx), where every state seems to have an option to provide proof of eligibility that doesn't require any money."

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/918/does-it-cost-25-to-obtain-a-free-voter-id-in-any-state

Strike 3 you are out!



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This article at pbs.org (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/the-daily-need/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws/14358/) seems to indicate that getting a free Voter ID in a state can cost as much as $25.
Voting law advocates contend these laws disproportionately affect elderly, minority and low-income groups that tend to vote Democratic [sic]. Obtaining photo ID can be costly and burdensome, with even free state ID requiring documents like a birth certificate that can cost up to $25 in some places.

I cannot seem to rectify that claim with this Voter ID laws by state (http://ncsl.org/legislatures-elections/elections/voter-id.aspx), where every state seems to have an option to provide proof of eligibility that doesn't require any money.

[resister]

I paid 28$ for my ID here.

[texan]

They cannot charge for voting. They don't charge.

[Bethere]

They cannot charge for voting. They don't charge.

Your own source disagreed with you.

Sorry.

[texan]

You can word smith all you want. There is no charge for voting. There is however a law that says you have to be able to identify yourself. Therefore you need ID. Trying to stretch this into a voting law is lame. BTW these ID laws have been in place for years upon years.

[Bethere]

You can word smith all you want. There is no charge for voting. There is however a law that says you have to be able to identify yourself. Therefore you need ID. Trying to stretch this into a voting law is lame. BTW these ID laws have been in place for years upon years.

It's not wordsmithing. The 24th amendment is why voter id efforts keep getting slapped down in court.

Now you know.

[Peter1469]

Virgina's voter ID law passed judicial muster.

[texan]

Virgina's voter ID law passed judicial muster.
Making a weak argument. For example: 9-0 SCOTUS on the travel ban. Still some lib paid off judge stalled it. THEY DO NOT CHARGE TO VOTE. END OF STORY. It is pure word smithing. The argument on having an id to vote is not the same argument and not the argument I made. They do not charge to vote. You lose.

[Bethere]

Making a weak argument. For example: 9-0 SCOTUS on the travel ban. Still some lib paid off judge stalled it. THEY DO NOT CHARGE TO VOTE. END OF STORY. It is pure word smithing. The argument on having an id to vote is not the same argument and not the argument I made. They do not charge to vote. You lose.

The supreme court has not ruled on the travel ban.

Lol.

[Peter1469]

The supreme court has not ruled on the travel ban.

Lol.
They may never rule on it. Once the 90 days is up, it may be moot.

[Bethere]

They may never rule on it. Once the 90 days is up, it may be moot.

Agreed.

[Dr. Who]

My take is that he is disappointed with the hyperbole and partisanship that disregards the greater good. I think he sums it up in his last statement:

Well, because I like to think I’m old enough and wise enough to know that there’s more to life than politics, as important as it’s been to me and as enjoyable as it has been to me for all those years. Then again, it’s not that I haven’t been bothered by the changes I’d seen around me or just the simple reality that it was less fun than it used to be as people stopped thinking and became more Pavlovian.

[Bethere]

My take is that he is disappointed with the hyperbole and partisanship that disregards the greater good. I think he sums it up in his last statement:

Well, because I like to think I’m old enough and wise enough to know that there’s more to life than politics, as important as it’s been to me and as enjoyable as it has been to me for all those years. Then again, it’s not that I haven’t been bothered by the changes I’d seen around me or just the simple reality that it was less fun than it used to be as people stopped thinking and became more Pavlovian.

It's a great Interview. He reminds me of Docthehun .

[Docthehun]

It's a great Interview. He reminds me of @Docthehun (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1986) .

After a recent brush with death, it pretty well sums up where I'm at these days.

[Bethere]

After a recent brush with death, it pretty well sums up where I'm at these days.

Wtf?

Pm me!