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Peter1469
07-05-2017, 08:40 PM
Hacked computer server that handled DNC email remains out of reach of Russia investig (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/5/dnc-email-server-most-wanted-evidence-for-russia-i/)ation

Mueller could get it.


It is perhaps the key piece of forensic evidence in Russia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/russia/)’s suspected efforts to sway the November presidential election, but federal investigators have yet to get their hands on the hacked computer server that handled email from the Democratic National Committee (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/).

Indeed, the only cybersecurity specialists who have taken a look at the server are from CrowdStrike (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/crowdstrike/), the Irvine, California-based private cybersecurity company that the DNC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) hired to investigate the hack — but which has come under fire itself for its work.


Some critics say CrowdStrike (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/crowdstrike/)’s evidence for blaming Russia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/russia/) for the hack is thin. Members of Congress say they still believe Russia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/russia/) was responsible but wonder why the DNC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) has never allowed federal investigators to get a look at the key piece of evidence: the server. Either way, a key “witness” in the political scandal consuming the Trump administration remains beyond the reach of investigators.


In recent days, questions about the server have taken on more importance as attention has focused on an email suggesting that the DNC (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/democratic-national-committee/) and the Obama administration (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/barack-obama/)’s Justice Department were trying to limit the scope of the FBI (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/federal-bureau-of-investigation/)’s investigation into Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s secret email account.

Mentioned in recent reporting and testimony from fired FBI (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/federal-bureau-of-investigation/) Director James B. Comey (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/james-b-comey/), the correspondence reportedly shows Obama-era Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch privately assuring “someone in the Clinton campaign that the email investigation would not push too deeply into the matter.”

resister
07-05-2017, 08:43 PM
Interesting, surely they are not hiding anything.

Bet they had the interns take a hammer to it like Hillary's devices.

Ethereal
07-05-2017, 09:44 PM
It's amazing that a private company like Crowdstrike is the only group who has actually examined the most important piece of forensic evidence in this "investigation".

What's even more amazing is that Crowdstrike are proven frauds.

Crepitus
07-05-2017, 10:09 PM
Mueller needs to go get it. If there's incriminating stuff other people on it they need to be brought down as bad as trump does.

resister
07-05-2017, 11:11 PM
Mueller needs to go get it. If there's incriminating stuff other people on it they need to be brought down as bad as trump does.
Shioott, that thing was likely destroyed long ago.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 05:02 AM
The other day, Podesta went on record to say the FBI has never asked for the server....
oooooooh, reeeeeeeeeeeally................

midcan5
07-06-2017, 07:39 AM
Looking at a server ain't gonna to tell you much. lol It was my understanding the hack was through a phishing expedition and a few nitwits who used simple passwords etc. Having managed email for a major corporation all the data should have been incrementally backed up, some systems replicate immediately. But if the user deletes the email it is gone unless sent to another system again dependent on backup policies. But if Russians hacked the system what relevance would that have? I have to tell you when we had a very distributed system many servers were easily hacked so to speak through poor procedures. It seems the Russians interfere if and when they can, now the question is how to stop that. Get on any server, list users and you too can become a hacker. I once hacked a manager who worked for me laptop after seeing his daughter's name. lol The only way safe bet is isolated servers with on-site only access. Even firewalls brake down. Paper ballots here we come.

Interesting read on topic. 'The Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage' by Cliff Stoll

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 08:25 AM
Looking at a server ain't gonna to tell you much. lol It was my understanding the hack was through a phishing expedition and a few nitwits who used simple passwords etc. Having managed email for a major corporation all the data should have been incrementally backed up, some systems replicate immediately. But if the user deletes the email it is gone unless sent to another system again dependent on backup policies. But if Russians hacked the system what relevance would that have? I have to tell you when we had a very distributed system many servers were easily hacked so to speak through poor procedures. It seems the Russians interfere if and when they can, now the question is how to stop that. Get on any server, list users and you too can become a hacker. I once hacked a manager who worked for me laptop after seeing his daughter's name. lol The only way safe bet is isolated servers with on-site only access. Even firewalls brake down. Paper ballots here we come.

Interesting read on topic. 'The Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage' by Cliff Stoll

there is no evidence the votes were "hacked"

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 08:27 AM
there is no evidence the votes were "hacked"

There is no evidence the votes were not hacked.

Lets look at the voting machines and find out for sure.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 08:35 AM
There is no evidence the votes were not hacked.

Lets look at the voting machines and find out for sure.

fishing for the sake of fishing..........maybe, if, gotta be, he done it!
they are no more going to go fishing there. There's no reason ......only you and a few in here see conspiracies where ever you look.
Look over there...Trump's doing something, so we need to get a special counsel to investigate his sneeze..........you guys are so pathetic
What do his socks look like? We need a special prosecutor!
Trump parts his hair differently than you..WE DEMAND A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!!!!
sad....so sad that this is what your miserable life has devolved into

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 08:37 AM
There is no evidence the votes were not hacked.

Lets look at the voting machines and find out for sure.
what left-handed nonsense. "there's no evidence of a crime so that means there is a crime.............."

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 09:06 AM
fishing for the sake of fishing..........maybe, if, gotta be, he done it!
they are no more going to go fishing there. There's no reason ......only you and a few in here see conspiracies where ever you look.
Look over there...Trump's doing something, so we need to get a special counsel to investigate his sneeze..........you guys are so pathetic
What do his socks look like? We need a special prosecutor!
Trump parts his hair differently than you..WE DEMAND A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!!!!
sad....so sad that this is what your miserable life has devolved into

You are scared of what they might find. You know, deep down, that tRump did not win this election unassisted.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 09:06 AM
what left-handed nonsense. "there's no evidence of a crime so that means there is a crime.............."

You are terrified. Man up. Let's find out for sure.

resister
07-06-2017, 09:59 AM
you are scared of what they might find. You know, deep down, that trump did not win this election unassisted.toasters18612

Tahuyaman
07-06-2017, 10:12 AM
There is no evidence the votes were not hacked.

Lets look at the voting machines and find out for sure.


A lack of evidence is not grounds for an investigation. You can't just dream up an accusation and consider that credible evidence or probable cause.

Tahuyaman
07-06-2017, 10:15 AM
You are scared of what they might find. You know, deep down, that tRump did not win this election unassisted.

He got an assist from Hillary Clinton by her running a horrible campaign. Plus he got an assist from Jill Stein in both Michigan and Wisconsin as she syphoned off enough Hillary voters there to give Trump the wins there.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 12:44 PM
You are terrified. Man up. Let's find out for sure.
me? Man up? What is it you clamed I've done? and you're no one to man up to, whiny girly

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 12:46 PM
toasters18612

Your toaster is butt hurt?

That's weird.

resister
07-06-2017, 12:47 PM
Your toaster is butt hurt?

That's weird.When did your but become a toaster? Watch out, it can be hacked :)

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 12:47 PM
You are scared of what they might find. You know, deep down, that tRump did not win this election unassisted.

What if he did win on his own... you say he couldn't have indicates Hillary was destined to win or some portent from and oracle told you this What fix was in? There's a loser in every race and only the bad losers cry like little girls.....
We want to check his underwear!!! He cheated!!!!
hahahahahahahahahahaha

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 12:49 PM
A lack of evidence is not grounds for an investigation. You can't just dream up an accusation and consider that credible evidence or probable cause.

You are another that is scared of what they might find.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 12:56 PM
You are scared of what they might find. You know, deep down, that tRump did not win this election unassisted.

Right both Hillary and the DNC helpped him.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 12:57 PM
A lack of evidence is not grounds for an investigation. You can't just dream up an accusation and consider that credible evidence or probable cause.

Not for a criminal evaluation, that violates the Constitution.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 12:58 PM
You are another that is scared of what they might find.

How many voting machines are linked to Algore's Amazing Internet?

jimmyz
07-06-2017, 01:13 PM
There is no evidence the votes were not hacked.

Lets look at the voting machines and find out for sure.

Unending intrigue based on wishes. If the "voting machines" could be ruled out you would present another rabbit hole to go down. You are as delusional as the Birthers and Obama is a muslim crowd.

jimmyz
07-06-2017, 01:16 PM
One root cause is Leftists underestimating their perceived power in the electorate. The fact that people came out in numbers for Trump in swing states cannot be accepted by Leftists. They have to explain it away with diversion from reality.

Tahuyaman
07-06-2017, 01:25 PM
You are another that is scared of what they might find.

You left wing types just keep piling by up accusations backed by nothing but your imagination. There's nothing to even suggest there's anything to investigate.

Tahuyaman
07-06-2017, 01:27 PM
Not for a criminal evaluation, that violates the Constitution. Nothing matters other than what they can dream up.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:37 PM
me? Man up? What is it you clamed I've done? and you're no one to man up to, whiny girly

Oooh, name calling. Typical conservative not able to answer intelligently.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:38 PM
When did your but become a toaster? Watch out, it can be hacked :)

It's not. I just had the cute check out girl at the gas station check for me.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:41 PM
What if he did win on his own... you say he couldn't have indicates Hillary was destined to win or some portent from and oracle told you this What fix was in? There's a loser in every race and only the bad losers cry like little girls.....
We want to check his underwear!!! He cheated!!!!
hahahahahahahahahahaha

We will never know whether he could have or not, because he didn't and it's over.

It figures you would want to get into his underwear. I've been getting that vibe from you for a while.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:44 PM
Right both Hillary and the DNC helpped him.

He had lotsa help, some from people who aren't even us citizens.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 03:44 PM
Oooh, name calling. Typical conservative not able to answer intelligently.

Ok, I' go s l o w for you...first you didn't ask a question but made a statement.
My response was to ask
me? Man up? What is it you clamed I've done?

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:45 PM
How many voting machines are linked to Algore's Amazing Internet?

Non response. Already been covered.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:46 PM
Unending intrigue based on wishes. If the "voting machines" could be ruled out you would present another rabbit hole to go down. You are as delusional as the Birthers and Obama is a muslim crowd.

Easy to shut this down. Just check.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 03:50 PM
Ok, I' go s l o w for you...first you didn't ask a question but made a statement.
My response was to ask
me? Man up? What is it you clamed I've done?

You've hidden your head in the sand.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 03:51 PM
Easy to shut this down. Just check.
maybe we should check you out. We know you're corrupt. We know you've committed perjury. We know you have an associate that threatens people.
Maybe that's where we should start.....

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 04:38 PM
He had lotsa help, some from people who aren't even us citizens.

Not anything like collusion.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 04:40 PM
Easy to shut this down. Just check.

Check all the voter rolls against citizenship records as well other information to ensure one citizen gets one vote without noncitiens and dead people participating.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 04:53 PM
You've hidden your head in the sand.

so far.....CNN lied to everyone about the collusion thing. They admit it. We've gone over this slowly just for you so many times.
msm picked up the story and ran with it. Not one of them checked the story at anytime for accuracy. CNN admits that.
Out of the last four really big storied, it has come to light that they either outright lied, created a story, or tried to put Trump's feet to the fire for a nothing burger. Your gods from CNN have been caught, yet again. Threatening and intimation over a gif. Those are federal felonies because their business crosses state lines. Will they be charged? Maybe, I don't know............but CNN is in a world of hurt. And you've hitched you're wagon to theirs. now they've got proof of the threatening and intimidation, so there's absolutely no need to deny it.

spunkloaf
07-06-2017, 04:55 PM
so far.....CNN lied to everyone about the collusion thing. They admit it. We've gone over this slowly just for you so many times.
msm picked up the story and ran with it. Not one of them checked the story at anytime for accuracy. CNN admits that.
Out of the last four really big storied, it has come to light that they either outright lied, created a story, or tried to put Trump's feet to the fire for a nothing burger. Your gods from CNN have been caught, yet again. Threatening and intimation over a gif. Those are federal felonies because their business crosses state lines. Will they be charged? Maybe, I don't know............but CNN is in a world of hurt. And you've hitched you're wagon to theirs. now they've got proof of the threatening and intimidation, so there's absolutely no need to deny it.

They didn't lie. When the President of the United States is hiding something, it is their job to investigate.

spunkloaf
07-06-2017, 04:56 PM
Check all the voter rolls against citizenship records as well other information to ensure one citizen gets one vote without noncitiens and dead people participating.

It's a solid system.

Trump won.

Get over it.

He just lost the popular vote.

Get over that, too.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 05:02 PM
They didn't lie. When the President of the United States is hiding something, it is their job to investigate.

A CNN producer said there was no notable evidence to investigate.

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 05:03 PM
It's a solid system.

Trump won.

Get over it.

He just lost the popular vote.

Get over that, too.
I vote 3rd party. I always know my vote won't elect anyone outside of local elections.

resister
07-06-2017, 05:06 PM
He just lost the popular vote.

Get over that, too.
That's OK Hillary needed a consolation prize and participation Trophy being a 2 time loser :)

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 07:13 PM
Not anything like collusion.

Probably should wait until the investigation is complete before you start making concrete statements like that.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 07:14 PM
Check all the voter rolls against citizenship records as well other information to ensure one citizen gets one vote without noncitiens and dead people participating.

I got no problems with that.

Crepitus
07-06-2017, 07:19 PM
A CNN producer said there was no notable evidence to investigate.

Wait, now you believe cnn?

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 07:21 PM
They didn't lie. When the President of the United States is hiding something, it is their job to investigate.

dude, they admitted to lying......you are so old news..............It is NOT their job to investigate the president. any information obtained without a warrant is inadmissible in court and cannot be used. If, and that's a far gone if, they find anything, they could blow the case, if there were anything at all...
as usual, you guys don't give a rat's ass how much it costs.........I wonder how many people are going hungry from the waste of money
The Congressional investigations are leading nowhere...
you guys really need to give it up, Hillary's ass will never polish the oval office chair.

stjames1_53
07-06-2017, 07:25 PM
Probably should wait until the investigation is complete before you start making concrete statements like that.
why? you're not waiting, you've already stated Trump was guilty of something, and your only proof is that Hillary lost. And that's all you got for proof. and, that's not proof.
podesta is already under investigation for Russian ties.................guess this isn't going where you thought this was

Peter1469
07-06-2017, 07:40 PM
Wait, now you believe cnn?

lol

Like a CNN producer would make that up. And many in management were using the collusion story to boost ratings even when there was no evidence.

Tahuyaman
07-06-2017, 08:45 PM
Probably should wait until the investigation is complete before you start making concrete statements like that.


When this investigation is completed, it's going leave a trail of Obama incompetence and Clinton corruption. Trump will still be standing.

stjames1_53
07-07-2017, 05:38 AM
When this investigation is completed, it's going leave a trail of Obama incompetence and Clinton corruption. Trump will still be standing.

they are treating this like a Miss America pageant. If they can depose Trump, the runner up will take over...........whadahoot