The G20 became the G19 as it ended.

[Trish]

I couldn't get the video to upload but I provided a link . Trish

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The G20 became the G19 as it ended. On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.
It is, apparently, where this US President wants to be as he seeks to turn his nation inward.
Donald Trump has a particular, and limited, skill-set. He has correctly identified an illness at the heart of the Western democracy. But he has no cure for it and seems to just want to exploit it.
He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient.
And this week he underlined he has neither the desire nor the capacity to lead the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/trump-has-no-desire-and-no-capacity-to-lead-the/8691838

[Private Pickle]

I couldn't get the video to upload but I provided a link . Trish

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The G20 became the G19 as it ended. On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.
It is, apparently, where this US President wants to be as he seeks to turn his nation inward.
Donald Trump has a particular, and limited, skill-set. He has correctly identified an illness at the heart of the Western democracy. But he has no cure for it and seems to just want to exploit it.
He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient.
And this week he underlined he has neither the desire nor the capacity to lead the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/trump-has-no-desire-and-no-capacity-to-lead-the/8691838


Does ABC and or their viewers/patrons believe this type of diatribe to be actual news?

[Trish]

Does ABC and or their viewers/patrons believe this type of diatribe to be actual news?

I have no idea what viewers or patrons believe. I found it interesting to get a perspective of how our international allies view the Trump agenda and how they think it will impact the USA long term. I think it's important to understand or at least know what others are saying about you.

[Private Pickle]

I have no idea what viewers or patrons believe. I found it interesting to get a perspective of how our international allies view the Trump agenda and how they think it will impact the USA long term. I think it's important to understand or at least know what others are saying about you.
Only you didn't get their perspective. You got ABC's perspective. Big difference there.

[midcan5]

Misogyny won the day and now America suffers under an idiot.

http://www.nbcnews.com/megyn-kelly/video/get-smart-girls-may-see-boys-as-smarter-by-age-six-989895747547

Trump a narcissistic moron: http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-loneliness-of-donald-trump/

And also of interest, see quote below: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land

page 8

"Inspired by Thomas Frank's book What's the Matter with Kansas?, I began my five-year journey to the heart of the American right carrying with me, as if it were a backpack, a great paradox. Back in 2004, when Frank's book appeared, there was a paradox underlying the right-left split. Since then the split has become a gulf.

Across the country, red states are poorer and have more teen mothers, more divorce, worse health, more obesity, more trauma-related deaths, more low-birth-weight babies, and lower school enrollment. On average, people in red states die five years earlier than people in blue states. Indeed, the gap in life expectancy between Louisiana (75.7) and Connecticut (80.8) is the same as that between the United States and Nicaragua. Red states suffer more in another highly important but little-known way, one that speaks to the very biological self-interest in health and life: industrial pollution.

Louisiana is an extreme example of this paradox. The Measure of America, a report of the Social Science Research Council, ranks every state in the United States on its "human development." Each rank is based on life expectancy, school enrollment, educational degree attainment, and median personal earnings. Out of the 50 states, Louisiana ranked 49th and in overall health ranked last. According to the 2015 National Report Card, Louisiana ranked 48th out of 50 in eighth-grade reading and 49th out of 50 in eighth-grade math. Only eight out of ten Louisianans have graduated from high school, and only 7 percent have graduate or professional degrees. According to the Kids Count Data Book, compiled by the Annie E. Casey Foundation, Louisiana ranked 49th out of 50 states for child well-being. And the problem transcends race; an average black in Maryland lives four years longer, earns twice as much, and is twice as likely to have a college degree as a black in Louisiana. And whites in Louisiana are worse off than whites in Maryland or anywhere else outside Mississippi. Louisiana has suffered many environmental problems too: there are nearly 400 miles of low, flat, subsiding coastline, and the state loses a football field-size patch of wetland every hour. It is threatened by rising sea levels and severe hurricanes, which the world's top scientists connect to climate change.

Given such an array of challenges, one might expect people to welcome federal help. In truth, a very large proportion of the yearly budgets of red states-in the case of Louisiana, 44 percent-do come from federal funds; $2,400 is given by the federal government per Louisianan per year."

[Common]

I have no idea what viewers or patrons believe. I found it interesting to get a perspective of how our international allies view the Trump agenda and how they think it will impact the USA long term. I think it's important to understand or at least know what others are saying about you.

Thats ABCs view of how others view trump, its just another hit piece. They way trump has been attacked here by the left and the media, being accused of everything under the sun how could other countries have a good view

[Crepitus]

Conservative excuse making notwithstanding I think that's a pretty accurate description of how a lot of the rest of the world see him. I know it is for at least a few Brits, Belgians, and French that I know personally and correspond with fairly regularly.

[MisterVeritis]

I love that we finally have an American President who is a leader and not simply a follower.

[Green Arrow]

Trump has always been a foreign policy novice, he changes his mind more often than he changes his underwear on that subject. I don't think it's intentional. He probably just felt completely out of his depth, a sheep in a meeting of wolves.

Unless he or his advisors find a way to snatch knowledge from the depths of ignorance, we'll be worse off and weaker by the end of the Trump era.

[MisterVeritis]

Trump has always been a foreign policy novice, he changes his mind more often than he changes his underwear on that subject. I don't think it's intentional. He probably just felt completely out of his depth, a sheep in a meeting of wolves.

Unless he or his advisors find a way to snatch knowledge from the depths of ignorance, we'll be worse off and weaker by the end of the Trump era.
At the end of President Trump's eight years you will be older, and maybe wiser.

[Crepitus]

I love that we finally have an American President who is a leader and not simply a follower.

What exactly is it you see him "leading"?

[MisterVeritis]

What exactly is it you see him "leading"?
I see President Trump leading across the board. How is it you miss it?

NATO countries, for example, are beginning to pay for their defense. President Trump held their feet to the fire and they responded by paying what they long ago agreed to pay. President Trump is taking us out of arrangements that benefitted other countries at our expense. Of course, the countries who benefitted complain. But they will come along. The climate boondoggle is a great example of American leadership. By taking us out of the agreement it places the onus on the socialist countries to put their citizens' money where the political leaders' mouths are. Just watch how quickly others come around.

I see the American President leading Americans, first and foremost.

[Trish]

Only you didn't get their perspective. You got ABC's perspective. Big difference there.

Okay, so by your account we should bury our heads in the sand and only listen to outlets that are aligned with our beliefs. We have to listen to varying opinions otherwise we are living in a bubble. That was the point I was attempting to make but you took personal issue with it. That's find you are entitled to you opinion.

[Trish]

Thats ABCs view of how others view trump, its just another hit piece. They way trump has been attacked here by the left and the media, being accused of everything under the sun how could other countries have a good view
No offense Common but what the reporter focused on were the interactions of President Trump with other world leaders and the decisions and actions he's made. Yes, he referenced President Trump's tweets but again those are the President's own words.

You are spinning it to frame a narrative that you want to believe which is "everyone's against Trump". I would respond that generally if you want to assign blame you should look for the common denominator. In this instance the common denominator is Trump.

[Private Pickle]

Okay, so by your account we should bury our heads in the sand and only listen to outlets that are aligned with our beliefs. We have to listen to varying opinions otherwise we are living in a bubble. That was the point I was attempting to make but you took personal issue with it. That's find you are entitled to you opinion.

Just the opposite actually. My advice to you is to not pay attention to any of the "outlets" and get your information from more non-partisan sources.
Just as a heads up... News outlets shouldn't be about opinion...they should be about the news... That's what I took issue with...not you...

[William]

Just the opposite actually. My advice to you is to not pay attention to any of the "outlets" and get your information from more non-partisan sources.
Just as a heads up... News outlets shouldn't be about opinion...they should be about the news... That's what I took issue with...not you...

Uhlmann was reporting upon what he saw, it wasn't just his opinion, so in what way is the Australian Broadcasting Commission a partisan source? It, like the BBC, is funded by Royal Charter,and is independent of government and any political party. It is considered the most impartial news medium in Australia - it reports with neither fear nor favour, and most governments of the day hate it for that reason. :wink:

[Chris]

The video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_ckWZCHW4

[Private Pickle]

Uhlmann was reporting upon what he saw, it wasn't just his opinion, so in what way is the Australian Broadcasting Commission a partisan source? It, like the BBC, is funded by Royal Charter,and is independent of government and any political party. It is considered the most impartial news medium in Australia - it reports with neither fear nor favour, and most governments of the day hate it for that reason. :wink:

"He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient."

Is that actually news or an opinion intended to sway the reader/viewer one way or the other?

This wasn't a report. It was an OP ED in the guise of news.

[Ravens Fan]

I couldn't get the video to upload but I provided a link . Trish

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The G20 became the G19 as it ended. On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.
It is, apparently, where this US President wants to be as he seeks to turn his nation inward.
Donald Trump has a particular, and limited, skill-set. He has correctly identified an illness at the heart of the Western democracy. But he has no cure for it and seems to just want to exploit it.
He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient.
And this week he underlined he has neither the desire nor the capacity to lead the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/trump-has-no-desire-and-no-capacity-to-lead-the/8691838


This doesn't look isolated and friendless to me...

https://youtu.be/P9yz7GWNfBQ

In fact, the French president invited Trump to come to Paris next week.

[Private Pickle]

This doesn't look isolated and friendless to me...

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/85097-CBO-score-22-million-more-unisured?p=2080472&viewfull=1#post2080472

In fact, the French president invited Trump to come to Paris next week.

But that's devastating to the hit piece's agenda! Why would they include the news in the news?

[Tahuyaman]

The G20 became the G19 as it ended.
That was the CNN / MSNBC spin anyway.

[texan]

I couldn't get the video to upload but I provided a link . Trish

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The G20 became the G19 as it ended. On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.
It is, apparently, where this US President wants to be as he seeks to turn his nation inward.
Donald Trump has a particular, and limited, skill-set. He has correctly identified an illness at the heart of the Western democracy. But he has no cure for it and seems to just want to exploit it.
He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient.
And this week he underlined he has neither the desire nor the capacity to lead the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/trump-has-no-desire-and-no-capacity-to-lead-the/8691838

LOL. So friendless Trump is headed to France as the guess of their leader. So isolated that Merkel continues to work with the administration on dozens of initiatives. You people are so brain dead.

[Trish]

LOL. So friendless Trump is headed to France as the guess of their leader. So isolated that Merkel continues to work with the administration on dozens of initiatives. You people are so brain dead.
I never said Trump was friendless. I posted the video to show how the international community is reporting on Trump and how they see the US and to stimulate conversation not insults.

I welcome your input and whether you agree or disagree. I wouldn't call you brain dead and I don't want you to call me that either. It's a conversation starter on what you think about how the decisions our government is considering or has made and how it is impacting our relationships around the world.

[nathanbforrest45]

I have no idea what viewers or patrons believe. I found it interesting to get a perspective of how our international allies view the Trump agenda and how they think it will impact the USA long term. I think it's important to understand or at least know what others are saying about you.

That would be true if it were true but since it isn't it really doesn't matter.

Furthermore, why does anyone in the United States give a rats ass what effete snobs think about us?

[nathanbforrest45]

At the end of President Trump's eight years you will be older, and maybe wiser.
I sincerely doubt the second part.

[Green Arrow]

That would be true if it were true but since it isn't it really doesn't matter.

Furthermore, why does anyone in the United States give a rats ass what effete snobs think about us?

Because isolationism is bad.

[nathanbforrest45]

"He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient."

Is that actually news or an opinion intended to sway the reader/viewer one way or the other?

This wasn't a report. It was an OP ED in the guise of news.
'
They don't understand the difference between facts and opinions.

They are all running scared because like cockroaches the light of truth is shinning on them.

[nathanbforrest45]

Because isolationism is bad.


Its now isolationism to consider these nabobs know what is best for America? I don't see or hear President Donald Trump saying we should have no dealings with effete snobs from Europe. I see and hear him saying the good old days of piling on the United States are over.

[Trish]

That would be true if it were true but since it isn't it really doesn't matter.
Furthermore, why does anyone in the United States give a rats ass what effete snobs think about us?
What part isn't true....

I care what our allies think. I may not care whether they approve or not but I certainly want to know what they think. Wanting to know what people think isn't an endorsement. It's actually pretty smart to want to know what people are thinking so you can be prepared.

[Private Pickle]

What part isn't true....

I care what our allies think. I may not care whether they approve or not but I certainly want to know what they think. Wanting to know what people think isn't an endorsement. It's actually pretty smart to want to know what people are thinking so you can be prepared.
Opinion =/= Truth

[Trish]

Because isolationism is bad.
Yes, we can look to North Korea and see how it can be devastating to societies.

[Mister D]

Yes, we can look to North Korea and see how it can be devastating to societies.
No, that's communism.

[Trish]

No, that's communism.

Do you think it happens overnight like a big bang or is it reasonable to agree that it happens gradually which leads to a "ism". What comes first, the chicken or the egg.......

[Green Arrow]

Its now isolationism to consider these nabobs know what is best for America? I don't see or hear President Donald Trump saying we should have no dealings with effete snobs from Europe. I see and hear him saying the good old days of piling on the United States are over.

If those "effete snobs" decide we're not worth their support, we'll effectively be forced into isolationism. We need their partnerships and trade, which requires giving a shit about what they think.

[Kalkin]

Does ABC and or their viewers/patrons believe this type of diatribe to be actual news?

I found this part to be particularly funny: On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.


Awww, we're alone now and have no climate change friends. Maybe we'll be voted "least likely to be happy" in the MMGW yearbook.

[Private Pickle]

I found this part to be particularly funny: On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.


Awww, we're alone now and have no climate change friends. Maybe we'll be voted "least likely to be happy" in the MMGW yearbook.

Well given we're not in the accords it's no surprise! I mean that's like going to a party you rejected the invitation to...

[Kalkin]

Because isolationism is bad.
It really depends on what you're isolating/insulating yourself from. In our case, not jumping off the cliff with the rest of the MMGW lemmings is a good thing.

[Mister D]

Do you think it happens overnight like a big bang or is it reasonable to agree that it happens gradually which leads to a "ism". What comes first, the chicken or the egg.......
I'm going to try and be polite.

North Korea is "isolationist" because the USSR lost the Cold War.

If you think the US is going to lose its partnerships (well, the ones we give a shit about) and trading partners because of Donald Trump you are delusional. You're also a shameless partisan. We should all be telling the Eurocrats to mind their business. It's amazing. You people indulge this fantasy of "Russiagate" while you coddle foreigners capitalizing on domestic dissent in the US.

[Trish]

I'm going to try and be polite.
North Korea is "isolationist" because the USSR lost the Cold War.
If you think the US is going to lose its partnerships (well, the ones we give a $#@! about) and trading partners because of Donald Trump you are delusional. You're also a shameless partisan. We should all be telling the Eurocrats to mind their business. It's amazing. You people indulge this fantasy of "Russiagate" while you coddle foreigners capitalizing on domestic dissent in the US.

"you people"? WTF - did I insult or disrespect you in my post? I'm a shameless partisan? I posted this article to stimulate discussion on America's relationships around the world. What's good about it, what's bad about it - and you personally attack me because you think you know me? You don't know two fucking things about me.

Oh and btw - you being polite ........ huge fail but I'm sure you don't give a shit so I'm not sure why you bothered with the caveat.

[Ethereal]

The Paris Climate Accords are based largely on fraud. Trump was right to withdraw. The fact that other countries, some of whom are our "allies", decided to move forward with it does not change that.

[Mister D]

"you people"? WTF - did I insult or disrespect you in my post? I'm a shameless partisan? I posted this article to stimulate discussion on America's relationships around the world. What's good about it, what's bad about it - and you personally attack me because you think you know me? You don't know two $#@!ing things about me.
Yes, you people, Trish. I can only judge you by your comments here. I'm not interested in anything else. On the one hand, you tell us we should be concerned about non-existent Russian influence in our elections while you coddle some Eurocrats who really are trying to influence the American electorate. Shameless.

[Mister D]

The Paris Climate Accords are based largely on fraud. Trump was right to withdraw. The fact that other countries, some of whom are our "allies", decided to move forward with it does not change that.
We're gonna be like North Korea because the Eurocrats are mad. Mad as hell!

[Trish]

Yes, you people, Trish. I can only judge you by your comments here. I'm not interested in anything else. On the one hand, you tell us we should be concerned about non-existent Russian influence in our elections while you coddle some Eurocrats who really are trying to influence the American electorate. Shameless.

I generally try to stay in the center and stick with the issue rather than attacking the individual who is commenting. So......what's the D stand for - never mind, I think I know.

[Trish]

The Paris Climate Accords are based largely on fraud. Trump was right to withdraw. The fact that other countries, some of whom are our "allies", decided to move forward with it does not change that.
I think it was more about team building than really trying to accomplish anything of significance.

[Mister D]

I generally try to stay in the center and stick with the issue rather than attacking the individual who is commenting. So......what's the D stand for - never mind, I think I know.
No, you really don't. You lean decidedly toward the Democrats. In any case, I haven't attacked you. I attacked your inconsistency. Don't like it? Be consistent.

[Ethereal]

I think it was more about team building than really trying to accomplish anything of significance.
Well the text you posted originally mentioned how the Paris Climate Accords left the USA isolated and friendless. Putting aside the dubious accuracy of that statement, I say if our "friends" want us to pay higher taxes in order to fix a largely made up problem, then losing them is a good thing. I have no need for such "friends".

[Trish]

No, you really don't. You lean decidedly toward the Democrats. In any case, I haven't attacked you. I attacked your inconsistency. Don't like it? Be consistent.
I think I'll pass on your advice. My opinion or how I lean depends on the issue. Yes, I lean left on some issue and right (or what used to be considered right) on other issues. No, I don't like being stereotyped the way you're doing it but I'll get over it.

[Mister D]

I think I'll pass on your advice. My opinion or how I lean depends on the issue. Yes, I lean left on some issue and right (or what used to be considered right) on other issues. No, I don't like being stereotyped the way you're doing it but I'll get over it.
Your lean is obvious and, yes, you will get over it.

[Trish]

Well the text you posted originally mentioned how the Paris Climate Accords left the USA isolated and friendless. Putting aside the dubious accuracy of that statement, I say if our "friends" want us to pay higher taxes in order to fix a largely made up problem, then losing them is a good thing. I have no need for such "friends".

The text I posted was part of the article. They weren't my words or my opinion. Am I posting wrong? I thought we needed to post the story as is without modification or influence.

[Ethereal]

The text I posted was part of the article. They weren't my words or my opinion. Am I posting wrong? I thought we needed to post the story as is without modification or influence.
I know you didn't post them personally. But I was responding to the text in that article. If we lost friends, as the article claims, because Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accords, then I'm fine with that. I don't think the USA needs these "friends". In fact, becoming "friends" with Europe has brought with it massive problems. One of the main reasons the founding fathers rebelled against the British empire was because they were sick of being dragged into European drama.

[Docthehun]

Shouldn't we get right down to the truth of the matter. Lay off Trish and listen to Dave & Al.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/al-franken-david-letterman-climate-funny-die-173552641.html

[del]

Does ABC and or their viewers/patrons believe this type of diatribe to be actual news?
why don't you ask them?

[Trish]

I know you didn't post them personally. But I was responding to the text in that article. If we lost friends, as the article claims, because Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accords, then I'm fine with that. I don't think the USA needs these "friends". In fact, becoming "friends" with Europe has brought with it massive problems. One of the main reasons the founding fathers rebelled against the British empire was because they were sick of being dragged into European drama.

Oh - I misunderstood. My apologies.

With regard to losing friends, I don't think this was based solely on the US withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords. My impression was it was based on other actions or pending actions and remarks by the US in combination to withdrawing from the agreement. This may be a good thing or maybe not.

[Green Arrow]

The Paris Climate Accords are based largely on fraud. Trump was right to withdraw. The fact that other countries, some of whom are our "allies", decided to move forward with it does not change that.

Incorrect.

[Private Pickle]

why don't you ask them?

It was rhetorical... I know they do...

[Peter1469]

The world can be upset with the US position. But the world cannot ignore the US.

They will get over their fake angst.








I couldn't get the video to upload but I provided a link . Trish

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The G20 became the G19 as it ended. On the Paris climate accords (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/g-20-shut-trump-out-on-climate-strike-deal-on-trade/8691140) the United States was left isolated and friendless.
It is, apparently, where this US President wants to be as he seeks to turn his nation inward.
Donald Trump has a particular, and limited, skill-set. He has correctly identified an illness at the heart of the Western democracy. But he has no cure for it and seems to just want to exploit it.
He is a character drawn from America's wild west, a travelling medicine showman selling moonshine remedies that will kill the patient.
And this week he underlined he has neither the desire nor the capacity to lead the world.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/trump-has-no-desire-and-no-capacity-to-lead-the/8691838

[William]

I'm going to try and be polite.

North Korea is "isolationist" because the USSR lost the Cold War.

If you think the US is going to lose its partnerships (well, the ones we give a shit about) and trading partners because of Donald Trump you are delusional. You're also a shameless partisan. We should all be telling the Eurocrats to mind their business. It's amazing. You people indulge this fantasy of "Russiagate" while you coddle foreigners capitalizing on domestic dissent in the US.

I don't see this post as being even slightly polite, but anyway, maybe we should be discussing the subject, and not calling each other names - like 'shameless partisan'. You are entitled to express your views just like anyone else, but piling on to Trish cos she may not hold the same views as everyone else, is not discussing.

[William]

The world can be upset with the US position. But the world cannot ignore the US.

They will get over their fake angst.

You are correct, just like the US cannot ignore the rest of the world. We are all too interconnected and interdependent to ignore each other. :smiley:

[Common]

I have a serious question for anyone who cares to answer. The G20 conference has existed since 1999, 19 yrs can anyone tell me a few accomplishments thats actually come out of the G20, that is besides riots and millions in damage every year.

[Green Arrow]

I have a serious question for anyone who cares to answer. The G20 conference has existed since 1999, 19 yrs can anyone tell me a few accomplishments thats actually come out of the G20, that is besides riots and millions in damage every year.
The G20 didn't cause the riots.

[Kalkin]

You are correct, just like the US cannot ignore the rest of the world. We are all too interconnected and interdependent to ignore each other. :smiley:

That's the euro-weenie perspective. We have food, manufacturing, and natural resources (fuel). The rest of the world can fvck off.

[Kalkin]

The G20 didn't cause the riots.
Why were there riots?

[Tahuyaman]

The G20 became the G19 as it ended.
Or the US became the G1. I can live with that.

[Tahuyaman]

Why were there riots? Because there are idiots out there who can use anything to motivate them to break things and destroy private property.

[Common]

The G20 didn't cause the riots.
I know that and that wasnt the question

[katzgar]

The G20 became the G19 as it ended.


Or the US became the G1. I can live with that.


losing close to a third of our economy is ok?

[Tahuyaman]

losing close to a third of our economy is ok?


Our economy is growing. Every nation still wants access to the American market.

[Mister D]

I don't see this post as being even slightly polite, but anyway, maybe we should be discussing the subject, and not calling each other names - like 'shameless partisan'. You are entitled to express your views just like anyone else, but piling on to Trish cos she may not hold the same views as everyone else, is not discussing.
I really don't give a shit, William. Now that that's out of the way we can move on to whatever it is you wanted to say. Oh...you didn't have anything to say. Never mind.

[katzgar]

Our economy is growing. Every nation still wants access to the American market.

you arent sounding properly isolationist

[Tahuyaman]

you arent sounding properly isolationist

I prefer to keep it real. We aren't losing one third of our economy by not going along with everything proposed by the other G20 nations. In fact we are ensuring that our economy grows by resisting some of their ideas.

Many of the other nations around the world, even some of the G20 nations, look at the US as a cash cow. Enough is enough. We have our own issues to correct before we can put the rest of the world on our welfare roles.

[William]

I really don't give a shit, William. Now that that's out of the way we can move on to whatever it is you wanted to say. Oh...you didn't have anything to say. Never mind.

Well, you should - the rules of this board require us to post in good faith, which includes not calling people insulting names - and that's what I have to say.

[Mister D]

Well, you should - the rules of this board require us to post in good faith, which includes not calling people insulting names - and that's what I have to say.
But I don't. Too bad.

Isn't it way passed your bed time? You post at the strangest times of day. :smiley:

[William]

But I don't. Too bad.

Isn't it way passed your bed time? You post at the strangest times of day. :smiley:

Lol, I am in bed, but I'm not sleepy and I'm on holidays so I don't have to get up early. :wink:

[Mister D]

Lol, I am in bed, but I'm not sleepy and I'm on holidays so I don't have to get up early. :wink:

Sure...:wink:


lol

[Ransom]

But I don't. Too bad.

Isn't it way passed your bed time? You post at the strangest times of day. :smiley:

:biglaugh:

[Ransom]

losing close to a third of our economy is ok?

No. Losing a third of our government is ok.

[The Xl]

Trump is a dick, but he's better than the power structure that has ruled with impunity over the last 50 plus years. Give me scorched earth over that bullshit anyday

[Trish]

Trump is a dick, but he's better than the power structure that has ruled with impunity over the last 50 plus years. Give me scorched earth over that bull$#@! anyday

Trump's Presidency will be a catalyst for change in our government and most likely our country as a whole. I agree that we definitely needed something to happen that would shake up how the government was performing. This reminds me of that old saying my Grampa used to tell me "be careful what you wish you - it may come true".