Mourning in America - Here's Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night

[ptif219]

Liberals said Obamacare was good and would pay down debt and create jobs. They lied

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/grusbf5/good-morning-america-heres-those-layoffs-you-voted



So with another four years for President Obama to look forward to, and the obvious inevitability of Obamacare that this entails, let's examine the very real jobs that will be lost, and the very real lives that will be affected.
Welch Allyn
Welch Allyn, a company that manufactures medical diagnostic equipment in central New York, announced in September that they would be laying off 275 employees (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/09/welch_allyn_cutting_275_worldw.html), or roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three years. One of the major reasons discussed for the layoffs was a proactive response to the Medical Device Tax mandated by the new healthcare law.
Dana Holding Corp.
As recently as a week ago, a global auto parts manufacturing company in Ohio known as Dana Holding Corp., warned their employees of potential layoffs, citing "$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. health care expenses". After laying off several white collar staffers, company insiders (http://thurbersthoughts.blogspot.com/2012/10/dana-considering-layoffs-as-obamacare.html) have hinted at more to come. The company will have to cover the additional $24 million cost somehow, which will likely equate to numerous cuts in their current workforce of 25,500 worldwide.
Stryker
One of the biggest medical device manufacturers in the world, Stryker will close their facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96 jobs in December. Worse, they plan on countering the medical device tax in Obamacare by slashing 5% of their global workforce (http://www.mmm-online.com/stryker-layoffs-blamed-on-obamacare-tax/article/247605/) - an estimated 1,170 positions.
Boston Scientific
In October of 2009, Boston Scientific CEO Ray Elliott, warned that (http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/20/bostonscientific-reform-idUSN2042679320091020) proposed taxes in the health care reform bill could "lead to significant job losses" for his company. Nearly two years later, Elliott announced that the company would be cutting (http://nation.foxnews.com/obamacare/2011/07/29/obamacare-fallout-boston-scientific-firing-1400-workers-hiring-1000-china) anywhere between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while simultaneously shifting investments and workers overseas - to China.
Medtronic
In March of 2010, medical device maker Medtronic warned (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2012/03/22/cbo-obamacare-will-lead-elimination-800000-jobs) that Obamacare taxes could result in a reduction of precisely 1,000 jobs. That plan became reality (http://www.massdevice.com/news/layoffs-medtronic-cut-another-500-jobs-hopes-saving-125m-year) when the company cut 500 positions over the summer, with another 500 set for the end of 2013.
Others
A short list (http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/oct/27/shirley-medical-device-tax-will-impact-jobs-and/) of other companies facing future layoffs at the hands of Obamacare:


Smith & Nephew - 770 layoffs
Abbott Labs - 700 layoffs
Covidien - 595 layoffs
Kinetic Concepts - 427 layoffs
St. Jude Medical - 300 layoffs
Hill Rom - 200 layoffs

Beyond the complete elimination of a significant number of American jobs is another looming problem created by the health care law - a shift from full-time to part-time workers.
Sean Hackbarth of Free Enterprise (http://www.freeenterprise.com/health-care/health-care-law-could-push-workers-part-time-jobs) explains:

A JP Morgan economist "points out that 8.3 million people are working in part-time jobs even though they'd prefer full-time work. Unfortunately, because of President Obama’s health care law, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), workers in the hotel, restaurant, and retail industries could be pushed into part-time jobs working less than 30 hours per week."
"Under the health care law, if a company has more than 50 “full time equivalent” workers, a combination of full and part-time employees, but doesn’t offer “affordable” coverage that meets the government’s minimum value standard, the company will have to pay a penalty. This penalty is determined by the number of full-time employees minus 30 full-time employees. So to reiterate a very important point: part-time workers are not part of the penalty formula. The health care law creates a perverse incentive to hire part-time versus full-time workers."
Tangible examples of Obamacare causing a reduction in full-time workers:
Darden Restaurants
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Darden Restaurants (http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2012/10/10/darden-restaurants-limits-worker-hours.html), a casual dining chain best known for their Red Lobster, Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse restaurants, is "experimenting with limiting the hours of some of its workers to avoid health care requirements under the Affordable Care Act when they take effect in 2014".
JANCOA Janitorial Services
The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare (http://www.freeenterprise.com/health-care/business-owner-congress-health-care-law-dream-killer) was a "dream killer", adding that one option she had to consider "is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized."
Kroger
The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers. Doug Ross (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/11/red-alert-kroger-to-slash-hourly.html) writes:

Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants (http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2012/10/10/darden-restaurants-limits-worker-hours.html) and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.
According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

[Calypso Jones]

I don't care.

[roadmaster]

Me either, I warned people here beforehand. I don't usually say something unless I hear it first hand.

[Aristophanes]

I don't care.My sentiments exactly.

I don't care. Let the whole thing collapse. I simply don't give a damn anymore.

[Carygrant]

Yes , shut up .
You are being an Ass .

[The Little Dictator]

I don't care.


My sentiments exactly.

I don't care. Let the whole thing collapse. I simply don't give a damn anymore.

I'm with you guys. I couldn't care less. They voted for this, they made their beds, now we can all lay in it. And when it all goes to shit ---- don't call me.

[Calypso Jones]

Yes , shut up .
You are being an Ass .

stuff it up yours. you're not even an american.

[Czernobog]

Liberals said Obamacare was good and would pay down debt and create jobs. They lied

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/grusbf5/good-morning-america-heres-those-layoffs-you-voted

Actually it is this article that is the lie. Please present the evidence that any of these layoffs had anything to do with Obama's re-election, or Obamacare, and were not just the annual round of 4th quarter layoffs that have been happening since at least 1996.

[Calypso Jones]

Actually it is this article that is the lie. Please present the evidence that any of these layoffs had anything to do with Obama's re-election, or Obamacare, and were not just the annual round of 4th quarter layoffs that have been happening since at least 1996.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/01/lockheed-martin-bows-to-administration-delays-layoff-notices-until-after-election/

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1706527/pg1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/solyndra-department-of-energy-pushed-hard-for-company-not-to-announce-layoffs-until-after-2010-mid-term-elections/2011/11/15/gIQA2AriON_story.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katehicks/2012/09/29/obama_administration_to_defense_contractors_no_lay off_notices_until_after_election_please

[ptif219]

Actually it is this article that is the lie. Please present the evidence that any of these layoffs had anything to do with Obama's re-election, or Obamacare, and were not just the annual round of 4th quarter layoffs that have been happening since at least 1996.

We know you will never admit no matter what the evidence

http://www.examiner.com/article/scores-of-us-businesses-announce-closings-and-layoffs-due-to-obama-s-re-election

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/share-this-massive-list-of-post-election-firings-and-layoffs-with-everyone-you-can

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/watercooler/index.php?blogid=5822

[Czernobog]

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/01/lockheed-martin-bows-to-administration-delays-layoff-notices-until-after-election/

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1706527/pg1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/solyndra-department-of-energy-pushed-hard-for-company-not-to-announce-layoffs-until-after-2010-mid-term-elections/2011/11/15/gIQA2AriON_story.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katehicks/2012/09/29/obama_administration_to_defense_contractors_no_lay off_notices_until_after_election_please

Really? Right Wing blogs, and forum posts about completely unrelated companies from the ones that the OP is claiming, and that is "evidence"? and one of those is Solyndra?!?! :deadhorse::rofl:

[GrassrootsConservative]

Actually it is this article that is the lie. Please present the evidence that any of these layoffs had anything to do with Obama's re-election, or Obamacare, and were not just the annual round of 4th quarter layoffs that have been happening since at least 1996.

You sir, are an imbecile. Companies should be hiring around the holiday season, not laying people off. My very first job was a seasonal job, so I would know.

Read a book, for Pete's sake.

[Czernobog]

You sir, are an imbecile. Companies should be hiring around the holiday season, not laying people off. My very first job was a seasonal job, so I would know.

Read a book, for Pete's sake.

You, Sir, are an idiot. The retail industry, and the service industry have hiring sprees for the "holidays". Manufacturing actually slows down. Read a fucking job report once in a while.

[GrassrootsConservative]

You, Sir, are an idiot. The retail industry, and the service industry have hiring sprees for the "holidays". Manufacturing actually slows down. Read a fucking job report once in a while.

Ha. The joke is on you. Your excuses do not matter, you are a Lib and I am someone who actually has work experience.

[Czernobog]

Ha. The joke is on you. Your excuses do not matter, you are a Lib and I am someone who actually has work experience.


In other words, "I'm an idiot, and I was wrong, but I am too much of a condescending, arrogant prig to admit it." i understand. I've gotten used to that from you Repuglican Right Wing Nutjobs.

[Carygrant]

stuff it up yours. you're not even an american.


We have noticed how cruel God can be to those that are with good heart and mind but cursed with the mark of , American , stamped all over them .
And tragically next year you will have to experience how the Greeks are feeling --- the Good , Bad and Ugly amid Banks tumbling ,and inflation starting to bite hard .

[Peter1469]

We have noticed how cruel God can be to those that are with good heart and mind but cursed with the mark of , American , stamped all over them .
And tragically next year you will have to experience how the Greeks are feeling --- the Good , Bad and Ugly amid Banks tumbling ,and inflation starting to bite hard .

Not before the EZ crashes.

[Mainecoons]

Yes and ironically, the British are looking pretty smart not joining the common currency. However, a general crash of the EZ is going to hit them hard. At the moment, they are benefitting from capital flight from France's grand experiment with progressivism which isn't going so well.

What a surprise, eh?

[Czernobog]

Okay, people. Again, it is time for a reality check, and to get some persesective on these selfish fuckers, and the "financial hardship" that Obamacare is going to cause them:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/381825_10151133533636275_251403551_n.jpg

[Peter1469]

And he, and many more employers are going to eliminate full time jobs in favor of part time jobs. Too much government regulation.

Elections have consequences. Enjoy.

[Czernobog]

And he, and many more employers are going to eliminate full time jobs in favor of part time jobs. Too much government regulation.

Elections have consequences. Enjoy.

Really?!?! He can afford a 40,000 foot private fucking castle with his own draw-bridge, but he has to layoff the delivery boy making 7 fucking dollars an hour, because he can't afford an extra 14 cents on his pizzas?!?! That's really your story, and you're stickin to it?!?!?

[Peter1469]

Really?!?! He can afford a 40,000 foot private fucking castle with his own draw-bridge, but he has to layoff the delivery boy making 7 fucking dollars an hour, because he can't afford an extra 14 cents on his pizzas?!?! That's really your story, and you're stickin to it?!?!?

Get used to it sister. Part time will be the new reality.

[Trinnity]

Really?!?! He can afford a 40,000 foot private fucking castle with his own draw-bridge, but he has to layoff the delivery boy making 7 fucking dollars an hour, because he can't afford an extra 14 cents on his pizzas?!?! That's really your story, and you're stickin to it?!?!?You're not very smart if I have to explain this to you, but here goes: it's not ONE delivery boy and ONE 14 cents. It's thousands of employees nationwide and hundreds of thousands of pizzas. It's the American success story to get rich on a good business idea and WORK for that dream. He built that business and his house and grounds are none of your business.

Yes, he can afford it and it's his right to spend his money as he sees fit. He built that business and those profits are HIS. Btw, everyone who worked on the construction and maintenance of his property was or is an employee and had or has a job connected to that property.

Sir, you blew your cred showing your ignorance, and you belittle yourself with your gratuitous profanity.

[GrumpyDog]

And the pizza restaurant owner built his own ovens, and he built the electrical grid that supplies power, and he built chairs and tables, and poured the foundation for which the building was erected. And then he built the building, using nails that he himself forged, and using tools that he himself made.

Then he built a farm and harvested wheat, to make the dough that he would use. And he grew the vegetables in his back yard, and raised and slaughtered chickens, and cows, and took the meat, and with his own bare hands ground it up into toppings used on the pizza.

Then he fabricated his own boxes and handpainted the logos on each and every box that would be used to deliver his pizzas.
Then he, with his own unique ability was able to deliver those pizzas himself, using a car, that he himself also constructed, out of parts that he himself also made, from raw materials, which he hiimself extracted from vairious and remote places around the USA.

[Peter1469]

That is right. You didn't build that.....

Marxist.

[Czernobog]

You're not very smart if I have to explain this to you, but here goes: it's not ONE delivery boy and ONE 14 cents. It's thousands of employees nationwide and hundreds of thousands of pizzas. It's the American success story to get rich on a good business idea and WORK for that dream. He built that business and his house and grounds are none of your business.

Yes, he can afford it and it's his right to spend his money as he sees fit. He built that business and those profits are HIS. Btw, everyone who worked on the construction and maintenance of his property was or is an employee and had or has a job connected to that property.

Sir, you blew your cred showing your ignorance, and you belittle yourself with your gratuitous profanity.

Tell you what? Let's go extreme here. You're talking "hundreds of thousands". I think you're wrong. I think Papa John's is more popular than that. Even accounting for 14 million pizzas, at 14 cents a pizza, that only accounts for a n increase of $1.96 million dollars. Hmm...the guy owns a 40,000 ft castle, with it's own oat, 22 car garage, private lake, tennis court, and golf course. I might be stretching it a little, but I don't think he's shitting himself over a million bucks.

What he claims is a lie. He can afford it. He just chooses to throw a temper tantrum, and punish people that he knows can't defend themselves because he didn't get his way.

[Czernobog]

And the pizza restaurant owner built his own ovens, and he built the electrical grid that supplies power, and he built chairs and tables, and poured the foundation for which the building was erected. And then he built the building, using nails that he himself forged, and using tools that he himself made.

Then he built a farm and harvested wheat, to make the dough that he would use. And he grew the vegetables in his back yard, and raised and slaughtered chickens, and cows, and took the meat, and with his own bare hands ground it up into toppings used on the pizza.

Then he fabricated his own boxes and handpainted the logos on each and every box that would be used to deliver his pizzas.
Then he, with his own unique ability was able to deliver those pizzas himself, using a car, that he himself also constructed, out of parts that he himself also made, from raw materials, which he hiimself extracted from vairious and remote places around the USA.

And again, you intentionally miss the point. You keep wanting to make this about "jealousy". I don't give a rats ass about his stuff. But to piss and moan about a 14 cent manufacturing increase when he is obviously as well off as he is is a lie. And it is a lie that those of us who really do have to budget our bills to the degree that an unexpected 14 cent expense could mean the difference between having lights, and not having lights find offensive.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Tell you what? Let's go extreme here. You're talking "hundreds of thousands". I think you're wrong. I think Papa John's is more popular than that. Even accounting for 14 million pizzas, at 14 cents a pizza, that only accounts for a n increase of $1.96 million dollars. Hmm...the guy owns a 40,000 ft castle, with it's own oat, 22 car garage, private lake, tennis court, and golf course. I might be stretching it a little, but I don't think he's shitting himself over a million bucks.

What he claims is a lie. He can afford it. He just chooses to throw a temper tantrum, and punish people that he knows can't defend themselves because he didn't get his way.

Don't forget, without him those people wouldn't have jobs at all. The only reason they have jobs is because he's wealthy.
Without the wealthy people here to pay you, you Liberals wouldn't have a pot to pee in. That's the problem.

For some reason, in your mind, being rich is an alternative to a free lifestyle. To a Lib, if you're rich, you don't get to live free. They get to put restrictions on the rich because how dare you have more money than someone who doesn't work and collects money from the government.

[Czernobog]

Don't forget, without him those people wouldn't have jobs at all. The only reason they have jobs is because he's wealthy.
Without the wealthy people here to pay you, you Liberals wouldn't have a pot to pee in. That's the problem.

For some reason, in your mind, being rich is an alternative to a free lifestyle. To a Lib, if you're rich, you don't get to live free. They get to put restrictions on the rich because how dare you have more money than someone who doesn't work and collects money from the government.

And without the working class you would have no one to make the shit that makes you wealthy. you seem to forget that is a two way street. This is not a parasitic relationship, it is a symbiotic one. But you keep wanting to act like the host, carrying us disgusting parasites out of the kindness of your hearts.

[GrumpyDog]

And again, you intentionally miss the point. You keep wanting to make this about "jealousy". I don't give a rats ass about his stuff. But to piss and moan about a 14 cent manufacturing increase when he is obviously as well off as he is is a lie. And it is a lie that those of us who really do have to budget our bills to the degree that an unexpected 14 cent expense could mean the difference between having lights, and not having lights find offensive.

I apologize again, since the post you quoted, allegedly written by GrumpyDog, was in response to Trinnity, and should have been a direct reply to that quote, and would have, except that GD was of the opinion that a direct reference, if taken the wrong way by a moderator, might result in dog treats being removed, thus resulting in GD becoming a deprived dog like Awryly.

It occurs to me that you must be a confused conservative, who would like to become progressive, but for fear that progressivism leads to fiscal irresponsiblity.

[GrassrootsConservative]

And without the working class you would have no one to make the shit that makes you wealthy. you seem to forget that is a two way street. This is not a parasitic relationship, it is a symbiotic one. But you keep wanting to act like the host, carrying us disgusting parasites out of the kindness of your hearts.

The difference is I'm not insulting the working class. I'm not demonizing people who work and make money. I wouldn't ever do that and you seem to imply that I have said a bunch of stuff that I haven't.
You are demonizing one side of the two way street, I'm telling you why you shouldn't. I never demonized the working class side, just the Liberals who want to demonize the rich.
Liberals deserve to be demonized. You... You deserve to be demonized.

How dare you try to stick words in my mouth.

[GrumpyDog]

Don't forget, without him those people wouldn't have jobs at all. The only reason they have jobs is because he's wealthy.
Without the wealthy people here to pay you, you Liberals wouldn't have a pot to pee in. That's the problem.

For some reason, in your mind, being rich is an alternative to a free lifestyle. To a Lib, if you're rich, you don't get to live free. They get to put restrictions on the rich because how dare you have more money than someone who doesn't work and collects money from the government.

Sorry to hear that you conservatives are still pissing in pots, and think that is a sign of successfulness, but the rest of us have moved on to modern plumbing and 21st century technnology.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Sorry to hear that you conservatives are still pissing in pots, and think that is a sign of successfulness, but the rest of us have moved on to modern plumbing and 21st century technnology.

Only 1 "n" in "technology", Mr. "successfulness"...

Learn to spell correctly and then you can talk about how I haven't moved on into a modern lifestyle. :rollseyes:

[Czernobog]

The difference is I'm not insulting the working class. I'm not demonizing people who work and make money. I wouldn't ever do that and you seem to imply that I have said a bunch of stuff that I haven't.
You are demonizing one side of the two way street, I'm telling you why you shouldn't. I never demonized the working class side, just the Liberals who want to demonize the rich.
Liberals deserve to be demonized. You... You deserve to be demonized.

How dare you try to stick words in my mouth.

Except I'm not demonising the man for making money, as you want to characterize my point. I am calling him out for lying, which he is, and for trying to punish his workers, which he is. There is a difference. Just because one is rich doesn't mean that one gets to let shit dribble from one's mouth, and expect it to be accepted as gospel.

[ptif219]

Sorry to hear that you conservatives are still pissing in pots, and think that is a sign of successfulness, but the rest of us have moved on to modern plumbing and 21st century technnology.

You will lose under Obama too

[Calypso Jones]

They think everything is just peachey keen.

[patrickt]

Sorry to hear that you conservatives are still pissing in pots, and think that is a sign of successfulness, but the rest of us have moved on to modern plumbing and 21st century technnology.

What an incredibly stupid post. You've reached heights previously scaled only by Carygrunt.

[Calypso Jones]

why are these people here? Why aren't they at DemocratUnderpants celebrating with the rest of the retards.

[Cigar]

:grin: