Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump

[Peter1469]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)


A Democratic representative has introduced the first formal article of impeachment against President Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/DonaldTrump).



Representative Brad Sherman alleges Mr Trump committed obstruction of justice by firing former FBI Director James Comey (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/james-comey) amid agency investigations into Russian meddling in the US election.


"Such conduct," Mr Sherman writes in the article, "warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office."

It won't go anywhere.

[MisterVeritis]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)
It won't go anywhere.
They, the Democrats, should still be punished.

[Agent Zero]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)
It won't go anywhere.



I thought they were filed last week, but good. We really don't need to prolong this although I still believe he'll resign once he grants clemency to family and friends.

[Peter1469]

I doubt it.

[Casper]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)



It won't go anywhere.
Correct, so far as we know now trump has done nothing that warrants charges, a trial, impeachment, or removal from office.
So Far..............

[del]

the republicans won't do a thing

it's what they're good at- nothing

[Peter1469]

We wouldn't be $20T in debt if all elected politicians did the same.


the republicans won't do a thing

it's what they're good at- nothing

[del]

We wouldn't be $20T in debt if all elected politicians did the same.
the debt is meaningless

[Peter1469]

the debt is meaningless

:smiley:


By 2023 (https://www.cbo.gov/about/products/budget_economic_data#3), spending on net interest payments will surpass spending on national defense.

link (http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/us-taxpayers-dont-realize-theyre-paying-billions-service-the-17796)

[Tahuyaman]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)



It won't go anywhere.

I listened to the clown describe his evidence for the obstruction of justice charges. It was a hoot.

[Tahuyaman]

We wouldn't be $20T in debt if all elected politicians did the same.


the debt is meaningless


What?

[Tahuyaman]

I thought they were filed last week, but good. We really don't need to prolong this although I still believe he'll resign once he grants clemency to family and friends.

Why would he do that when no one is going to be convicted of a crime, let alone be indicted for anything criminal?

[Peter1469]

I listened to the clown describe his evidence for the obstruction of justice charges. It was a hoot.

Right. Comey served at the pleasure of the President.

[Tahuyaman]

Right. Comey served at the pleasure of the President.

It was hilarious listening to him try to explain how Trump obstructed an investigation that is ongoing right now and one which Trump was quoted as saying that he wanted to continue so he could find out if anyone associated with his campaign did anything wrong.


The the guy said that he finished his articles of impeachment several months ago. I bet he started working on them on election night.

[Casper]

Right. Comey served at the pleasure of the President.

True, as do all the various LE or Intel Agencies. Now I would suggest that making an enemy of those agencies is a Very Bad Idea. Firing Comey is not the bigger issue facing trump, it was within his rights, even if it did make him look bad. Attacking all the various agencies is another thing and is paramount to signing your own death warrant. Wrong people to mess with, You know it, and so do I.

[MisterVeritis]

True, as do all the various LE or Intel Agencies. Now I would suggest that making an enemy of those agencies is a Very Bad Idea. Firing Comey is not the bigger issue facing trump, it was within his rights, even if it did make him look bad. Attacking all the various agencies is another thing and is paramount to signing your own death warrant. Wrong people to mess with, You know it, and so do I.
So you agree the intelligence community is deeply involved in this coup attempt.

[Peter1469]

True, as do all the various LE or Intel Agencies. Now I would suggest that making an enemy of those agencies is a Very Bad Idea. Firing Comey is not the bigger issue facing trump, it was within his rights, even if it did make him look bad. Attacking all the various agencies is another thing and is paramount to signing your own death warrant. Wrong people to mess with, You know it, and so do I.

agreed

[Agent Zero]

Why would he do that when no one is going to be convicted of a crime, let alone be indicted for anything criminal?

Refresh my memory...what crime was Nixon convicted of? What crime was Nixon indicted for?

Why, in fact, did Nixon resign?

Because he a. Lied to the American people, and b. Obstructed justice.

Next question?

[stjames1_53]

the republicans won't do a thing

it's what they're good at- nothing
hmmmm. illegals being rounded up or fleeing the country, rolling back EPA regs, Obamacare is in the toilet....nope .do nothing..........hahahahahahahah, Hillary is finished...........the economy is in an upswing
oh, and BTW, we just clinched a hell of a deal trade-wise with Japan.....

[MisterVeritis]

Refresh my memory...what crime was Nixon convicted of? What crime was Nixon indicted for?

Why, in fact, did Nixon resign?

Because he a. Lied to the American people, and b. Obstructed justice.

Next question?

What else was different? Oh, yeah. There was an actual crime. The left media and the Democrats have consistently lied to the American people. They are involved in a coup attempt.

[Agent Zero]

What else was different? Oh, yeah. There was an actual crime. The left media and the Democrats have consistently lied to the American people. They are involved in a coup attempt.
Then may I suggest you strap on your musket, hike up them boots, wash the sheets, trade in the capirote for a tri-cornered hat, and start the revolution?

Resist the Resistors!

[katzgar]

hmmmm. illegals being rounded up or fleeing the country, rolling back EPA regs, Obamacare is in the toilet....nope .do nothing..........hahahahahahahah, Hillary is finished...........the economy is in an upswing
oh, and BTW, we just clinched a hell of a deal trade-wise with Japan.....

more right wing making stuff up

[stjames1_53]

more right wing making stuff up

interpreted:
blah blah, blah blah blah

[MisterVeritis]

Then may I suggest you strap on your musket, hike up them boots, wash the sheets, trade in the capirote for a tri-cornered hat, and start the revolution?

Resist the Resistors!
It will come to blows. I am certain of it.

[katzgar]

What else was different? Oh, yeah. There was an actual crime. The left media and the Democrats have consistently lied to the American people. They are involved in a coup attempt.


:fart:

[MisterVeritis]

:fart:
Childish.

[Casper]

So you agree the intelligence community is deeply involved in this coup attempt.
Being that there is no coup attempt other than in your head, No.

Attacking the US Intel Agencies is a Fools Errand, so Yes, we have a Fool at the helm.

[katzgar]

interpreted:
blah blah, blah blah blah




:loser:

[stjames1_53]

:fart:
oh goody, more cartoons

:happy1:

[katzgar]

Childish.

just trying to fit in

[stjames1_53]

just trying to fit in
then you need to wait for exo to get back

[Casper]

hmmmm. illegals being rounded up or fleeing the country, rolling back EPA regs, Obamacare is in the toilet....nope .do nothing..........hahahahahahahah, Hillary is finished...........the economy is in an upswing
oh, and BTW, we just clinched a hell of a deal trade-wise with Japan.....
I bet you believe that, and agree that pollution is "good", except that no one has a plan that will unclog the toilet, who care about Hillary (other than you it seems), oh someone really has sold you a bill of goods, wait until you try and cash it in. Not a done deal yet, nice try though.

[MisterVeritis]

Being that there is no coup attempt other than in your head, No.

Attacking the US Intel Agencies is a Fools Errand, so Yes, we have a Fool at the helm.
If the intelligence community is to be feared and they are punishing the President in what way does this differ from a coup?

[MisterVeritis]

just trying to fit in
You are a leftist. I get it. Childish.

[MisterVeritis]

I bet you believe that, and agree that pollution is "good", except that no one has a plan that will unclog the toilet, who care about Hillary (other than you it seems), oh someone really has sold you a bill of goods, wait until you try and cash it in. Not a done deal yet, nice try though.
You have no idea what the EPA has been doing, do you?

[stjames1_53]

I bet you believe that, and agree that pollution is "good", except that no one has a plan that will unclog the toilet, who care about Hillary (other than you it seems), oh someone really has sold you a bill of goods, wait until you try and cash it in. Not a done deal yet, nice try though.

since you can only disagree with your false claims of climate warming, you seem bright enough for this:
The planet is 4.5 billion years old agree/disagree
This ball of dirt has been changing since it was formed agree/disagree
Man has been around for, say 400,000 agree/disagree
Man's pollution has been around for approx. 250 years agree/disagree
Man has little affect on this planet. Current volcanic activity, both above sea level and below, pumps more toxins in the air than Man has.
This so-called global warming/climate change is part of the ongoing evolution of the planet. All the money in the universe wont stop the change.

[stjames1_53]

You have no idea what the EPA has been doing, do you?

yeah.........didn't they dump toxins in some river on purpose, somewhere out west?

[Casper]

since you can only disagree with your false claims of climate warming, you seem bright enough for this:
The planet is 4.5 billion years old agree/disagree
This ball of dirt has been changing since it was formed agree/disagree
Man has been around for, say 400,000 agree/disagree
Man's pollution has been around for approx. 250 years agree/disagree
Man has little affect on this planet. Current volcanic activity, both above sea level and below, pumps more toxins in the air than Man has.
This so-called global warming/climate change is part of the ongoing evolution of the planet. All the money in the universe wont stop the change.
Where did I mention global warming, hmmmm, I will wait while you put your crack pipe down.

[Tahuyaman]

Refresh my memory...what crime was Nixon convicted of? What crime was Nixon indicted for?

Why, in fact, did Nixon resign?

Because he a. Lied to the American people, and b. Obstructed justice.

Next question?
Nixon wasn't indicted or convicted of anything. Next question

[Tahuyaman]

The only crine Trump is guilty of is defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016.

[Ethereal]

the debt is meaningless

This statement is meaningless, and stupid.

[del]

This statement is meaningless, and stupid.
i applaud your self-awareness

[Hal Jordan]

Where did I mention global warming, hmmmm, I will wait while you put your crack pipe down.
Do not suggest drug use of other members.

[Captain Obvious]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)



It won't go anywhere.

The takeaway is that all of this should be noted by conservative voters and especially when democrats regain control again.

It's all leading up to civil war IMO. Might not be anytime soon but it will happen and it's the only real hope for the Republic as far as I'm concerned. Another term of progressive rule will be disastrous.

[hotair]

Democrat files first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-bill-obstruction-justice-democrats-file-house-russia-investigation-a7838141.html)



It won't go anywhere.

Sure it will.

It was the plan from the beginning.

Put a tea bagger (Pence) on the ticket, as VP.
Impeach Trump.
Tea bagger in the White House!!!


It is the only way that the tea baggers can get one of their people in the WH!

[stjames1_53]

The only crine Trump is guilty of is defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016.
and to date, that's no where near illegal.............man, these guys have it bad for losing nothing

[stjames1_53]

Sure it will.

It was the plan from the beginning.

Put a tea bagger (Pence) on the ticket, as VP.
Impeach Trump.
Tea bagger in the White House!!!


It is the only way that the tea baggers can get one of their people in the WH!

you can keep Pence..........he's a sell out

[stjames1_53]

Sure it will.

It was the plan from the beginning.

Put a tea bagger (Pence) on the ticket, as VP.
Impeach Trump.
Tea bagger in the White House!!!


It is the only way that the tea baggers can get one of their people in the WH!

Pence is hardly a tea bag..........what is it with you guys and sexual assault? Is this a lifestyle or just a dream?

[Peter1469]

Sure it will.

It was the plan from the beginning.

Put a tea bagger (Pence) on the ticket, as VP.
Impeach Trump.
Tea bagger in the White House!!!


It is the only way that the tea baggers can get one of their people in the WH!
Pence is not Tea Party(ies).

Anyway, the obstruction of justice charge is a strike out.

[stjames1_53]

Pence is not Tea Party(ies).

Anyway, the obstruction of justice charge is a strike out.

Some Hoosiers consider him a RINO.....jes sayin'

[stjames1_53]

This statement is meaningless, and stupid.

and off topic.............

[stjames1_53]

guess those articles ended up in file 13...................

[Tahuyaman]

Some Hoosiers consider him a RINO.....jes sayin'

Its odd how the partisan Democrats portray him as a hard right winger. He's anything but.

[hotair]

and to date, that's no where near illegal.............man, these guys have it bad for losing nothing

Danger Will Robinson!



There is nothing in the constitution about anything being either “Legal” or “Illegal.” Any President can be impeached for any reason. Having been impeached that President can then be removed from office. The office of the Precedency is not absolute, our Constitution requires the President to work with Congress. As such a congress can remove any President by way of impeachment simply for vetoing too many bills. Yes the POTUS is an elected official, but everyone in the congress has also been elected to their offices too.

[hotair]

yeah.........didn't they dump toxins in some river on purpose, somewhere out west?

Kind of.

It was out East.
At least the one that I know of.

The release was necessary. The materials needed to be removed, and no one had the money to do it properly. Allowing the river to dilute, and disperse the toxins, though not an ideal solution, was deemed to be better than allowing them so leak down into the ground water poisoning the source of the drinking water for the region.

The question here is: Why did the W admin allow the situation to reach the critical point requiring such drastic measures?

[hotair]

Pence is not Tea Party(ies).

Anyway, the obstruction of justice charge is a strike out.

Funny . . . his record as governor indicates that he is a tea bagger. The rest of the tea baggers believe that he is one of them. A tea bagger by any other name . . .



While being anything but a strike out (to use your words) it is meaningless in any conversation concerning impeachment proceedings. The obstruction of justice charge, only means that after he has been impeached he would become subject for criminal prosecution, and if convicted, thrown into prison.

[stjames1_53]

Danger Will Robinson!



There is nothing in the constitution about anything being either “Legal” or “Illegal.” Any President can be impeached for any reason. Having been impeached that President can then be removed from office. The office of the Precedency is not absolute, our Constitution requires the President to work with Congress. As such a congress can remove any President by way of impeachment simply for vetoing too many bills. Yes the POTUS is an elected official, but everyone in the congress has also been elected to their offices too.

Obama: "Since Congress wont do what I want them to do, I have a pen and a phone."
But working against Congress is ok for Obama........gotcha

[Peter1469]

Danger Will Robinson!



There is nothing in the constitution about anything being either “Legal” or “Illegal.” Any President can be impeached for any reason. Having been impeached that President can then be removed from office. The office of the Precedency is not absolute, our Constitution requires the President to work with Congress. As such a congress can remove any President by way of impeachment simply for vetoing too many bills. Yes the POTUS is an elected official, but everyone in the congress has also been elected to their offices too.
For any reason isn't in the Constitution either.

Try high crimes and misdemeanors. Then research the meaning of that phrase to our Founders and how it has been interpreted over the years.

[stjames1_53]

Kind of.

It was out East.
At least the one that I know of.

The release was necessary. The materials needed to be removed, and no one had the money to do it properly. Allowing the river to dilute, and disperse the toxins, though not an ideal solution, was deemed to be better than allowing them so leak down into the ground water poisoning the source of the drinking water for the region.

The question here is: Why did the W admin allow the situation to reach the critical point requiring such drastic measures?

EPA chief attempts damage control after spill of toxic waste into Colorado’s Animas river
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/08/12/epa-chief-seeks-damage-control-after-spill-of-toxic-waste-into-colorado-river/?utm_term=.e53ad51ecd35

[stjames1_53]

Funny . . . his record as governor indicates that he is a tea bagger. The rest of the tea baggers believe that he is one of them. A tea bagger by any other name . . .



While being anything but a strike out (to use your words) it is meaningless in any conversation concerning impeachment proceedings. The obstruction of justice charge, only means that after he has been impeached he would become subject for criminal prosecution, and if convicted, thrown into prison.

I live in Indiana. I've net Pence.
He's no Tea Party guy.
Trust me when I say this: If you get Trump out, you really don't want Pence in there. He'll be vindictive as hell.....
you'll never get both of them.....

[MisterVeritis]

Kind of.

It was out East.
At least the one that I know of.

The release was necessary. The materials needed to be removed, and no one had the money to do it properly. Allowing the river to dilute, and disperse the toxins, though not an ideal solution, was deemed to be better than allowing them so leak down into the ground water poisoning the source of the drinking water for the region.

The question here is: Why did the W admin allow the situation to reach the critical point requiring such drastic measures?
Nice try.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill

The 2015 Gold King Mine waste water spill was an environmental disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_disaster) that began at the Gold King Mine near Silverton, Colorado (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverton,_Colorado),[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill#cite_note-2) when EPA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency) personnel, along with workers for Environmental Restoration LLC (a Missouri company under EPA contract to mitigate pollutants from the closed mine), caused the release of toxic waste water into the Animas River watershed.

[Peter1469]

Pence is religious right. Not sure how high up the big government scale he is.


I live in Indiana. I've net Pence.
He's no Tea Party guy.
Trust me when I say this: If you get Trump out, you really don't want Pence in there. He'll be vindictive as hell.....
you'll never get both of them.....

[stjames1_53]

Pence is religious right. Not sure how high up the big government scale he is.

Trump is not a politician, but a business man. Pence is the part of him that's missing. That's why he chose him to be VP. Pence is no negotiator.