Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

[Peter1469]

Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases (http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/20/voter-fraud-database-tops-1000-proven-cases/)


As the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2017/07/13/presidential-advisory-commission-election-integrity) convenes its first meeting on Wednesday, the issue of voter fraud in American elections has become even more contentious and hyperbolic.

One of the left’s main arguments against reform is that voter fraud simply does not occur. How liberals arrive at this conclusion, we cannot say.


Time and again, studies and analyses point to one incontrovertible conclusion: that voter fraud is a real and pressing issue that deserves serious solutions, and The Heritage Foundation has the evidence to prove it.


On Thursday, The Heritage Foundation is releasing a new edition of its voter fraud database (http://www.heritage.org/voterfraud). Featuring well over 100 new cases, the database documents 1,071 instances of voter fraud spanning 47 states, including 938 criminal convictions.

Other studies suggest a lot more voter fraud.

Read the rest of the article at the link.

[stjames1_53]

Some liberals think the world should vote in our elections...........
We know they believe that illegals should have a vote.............I keep going back to those 3 million popular votes and where they originated from. NY, CA, and W VA......................Dems are willing to do anything to remain in power. They have a driving desire to create a nation of lackeys

[Common]

Cant be true, the democrats said there is absolutely no voter fraud

[Crepitus]

Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases (http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/20/voter-fraud-database-tops-1000-proven-cases/)



Other studies suggest a lot more voter fraud.

Read the rest of the article at the link.

Seriously? 1,071 cases of voter fraud in the millions upon millions of votes cast in all elections in the last 20 years? Let's just look at presidential elections, which usually attract around 120,000,000 voters. If we put all the voter fraud that they claim happened in the last 20 years up against just the last election they were equal to 0.000009% of the vote. Now let's look at the last 20 years of presidential elections since that's the time frame for the fraud cases 120,000,000 times 20 is 2.4 billion votes meaning that the percentage of fraudulent votes is 0.00000004%

Seems worth getting all worked up over don't it?

[Peter1469]

Seriously? 1,071 cases of voter fraud in the millions upon millions of votes cast in all elections in the last 20 years? Let's just look at presidential elections, which usually attract around 120,000,000 voters. If we put all the voter fraud that they claim happened in the last 20 years up against just the last election they were equal to 0.000009% of the vote. Now let's look at the last 20 years of presidential elections since that's the time frame for the fraud cases 120,000,000 times 20 is 2.4 billion votes meaning that the percentage of fraudulent votes is 0.00000004%

Seems worth getting all worked up over don't it?
That is just prosecutions.

The instances of voter fraud appear to be much higher. We had a thread on a major study a while back that discussed it.

[Crepitus]

That is just prosecutions.

The instances of voter fraud appear to be much higher. We had a thread on a major study a while back that discussed it.

Even in they are only prosecuting 1 case in 100 it is still trivial beyond belief.

[MisterVeritis]

Even in they are only prosecuting 1 case in 100 it is still trivial beyond belief.
If true you should have no problem supporting voter ID laws that assure no voter fraud can occur.

[Crepitus]

If true you should have no problem supporting voter ID laws that assure no voter fraud can occur.

Do you suppose that Putin's propaganda machine swayed more than 0.000009% of the people who voted last november?

[MisterVeritis]

Do you suppose that Putin's propaganda machine swayed more than 0.000009% of the people who voted last november?
I don't believe Putin swayed anyone to vote one way or the other. You are deflecting. Why do you do that?

[Crepitus]

If true you should have no problem supporting voter ID laws that assure no voter fraud can occur.

I thought you repugnicants were against unnecessary laws and regulations anyway? Besides if gun laws don't stop gun crime why would voter ID laws stop vote fraud?

[MisterVeritis]

I thought you repugnicants were against unnecessary laws and regulations anyway? Besides if gun laws don't stop gun crime why would voter ID laws stop vote fraud?
And yet again you deflect. Why not admit that you like voter fraud as it helps Democrats win close races?

I do oppose unnecessary regulations. This is not one of those. This protects US national security and sovereignty. Scaling back immigration will help as well.

[Crepitus]

And yet again you deflect. Why not admit that you like voter fraud as it helps Democrats win close races?

I do oppose unnecessary regulations. This is not one of those. This protects US national security and sovereignty. Scaling back immigration will help as well.

Voter Fraud is virtually non existent.

0.00000004%

[MisterVeritis]

Voter Fraud is virtually non existent.
0.00000004%
Therefore requiring voter ID to confirm a voter is eligible to vote will cause no harm. You guys will barely miss the unlawful swing votes in the close elections.

[Crepitus]

Therefore requiring voter ID to confirm a voter is eligible to vote will cause no harm. You guys will barely miss the unlawful swing votes in the close elections.

So You are now a fan of unnecessary regulations then? 0.00000009% will not swing any elections either way.

[MisterVeritis]

So You are now a fan of unnecessary regulations then? 0.00000009% will not swing any elections either way.
I covered this Crep. Please review message 11. Do you need a link?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/86083-Voter-Fraud-Database-Tops-1-000-Proven-Cases?p=2092194&viewfull=1#post2092194

[Peter1469]

Even in they are only prosecuting 1 case in 100 it is still trivial beyond belief.
No, not really.

[Peter1469]

Voter Fraud is virtually non existent.

0.00000004%
Over 3 million expected cases in the last election. That is not insignificant.

[Crepitus]

No, not really.

Yes, yes really. If they are off by a factor of 100 that changes the percentage of fraudulent votes in the last 20 presidential elections to 0.000004% instead of 0.00000004%. And in the last election to 0.0009%. They would have to be off by a factor for of 100,000 before it becomes anything even close to significant.

[Crepitus]

Over 3 million expected cases in the last election. That is not insignificant.

WTF does "expected cases" mean?

You guys need to stop carrying Trump's water, it's apparently toxic to braincells.

[del]

Over 3 million expected cases in the last election. That is not insignificant.

you're right- it's bullshit



CLAIM An academic study cited by conservative news organizations and the Trump administration proved that Hillary Clinton received more than 800,000 non-citizen votes in the 2016 presidential election. See Example(s) (http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-800000-votes-non-citizens/#examples)
EXAMPLES Collected via Facebook, January 2017


RATING http://static.snopes.com/app/themes/snopes-theme/dist/images/det-red.gif FALSE

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-800000-votes-non-citizens/

[Peter1469]

WTF does "expected cases" mean?

You guys need to stop carrying Trump's water, it's apparently toxic to braincells.
The attack Trump meme is old.

At least 3M cases of voter fraud is significant, even in the face of denials.

[Peter1469]

1. Snopes is biased far left.
2. This was not the study I referenced above.


you're right- it's bullshit



http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-800000-votes-non-citizens/

[Crepitus]

The attack Trump meme is old.

At least 3M cases of voter fraud is significant, even in the face of denials.

What 3 million cases?

The "expected" ones?

Expected by whom? Trump, because that's how many votes he lost by?

This is silly, Trump is a liar who will say anything to anyone at anytime if he thinks it makes him look good.

You need to stop falling for it.

[Crepitus]

1. Snopes is biased far left.
2. This was not the study I referenced above.

Snopes is not biased either way.

There is not legitimate study that shows significant voter fraud.

[Peter1469]

1. The attack Trump meme is dead.

2. The study I am referencing is not a Trump study- another stupud attack Trump meme.

The study was perhps a Harvard study.


What 3 million cases?

The "expected" ones?

Expected by whom? Trump, because that's how many votes he lost by?

This is silly, Trump is a liar who will say anything to anyone at anytime if he thinks it makes him look good.

You need to stop falling for it.

[Peter1469]

Snopes is not biased either way.

There is not legitimate study that shows significant voter fraud.

2x incorrect. Perfect score.

[Crepitus]

1. The attack Trump meme is dead.

2. The study I am referencing is not a Trump study- another stupud attack Trump meme.

The study was perhps a Harvard study.

It was "perhaps" a Harvard study?

I have never see or heard of any study not from RWNJ blog sites that says in person vote fraud is present in any significant numbers.

[Crepitus]

2x incorrect. Perfect score.

Prove it, or is this just your opinion?

[Peter1469]

It was "perhaps" a Harvard study?

I have never see or heard of any study not from RWNJ blog sites that says in person vote fraud is present in any significant numbers.

Sorry.

[MisterVeritis]

What 3 million cases?

The "expected" ones?
Expected by whom? Trump, because that's how many votes he lost by?

This is silly, Trump is a liar who will say anything to anyone at anytime if he thinks it makes him look good.

You need to stop falling for it.
Note to self: Crep does not yet understand that Mr. Trump won the election. Someone should tell Crep the title President comes with the win.

[Peter1469]

He likely won the popular vote if the illegals were not counted.

[Crepitus]

Note to self: Crep does not yet understand that Mr. Trump won the election. Someone should tell Crep the title President comes with the win.

Sure, let me know when he can do it without Russian assistance.

[MisterVeritis]

Sure, let me know when he can do it without Russian assistance.
Many people with apparent brain injuries believe as you do. If Putin gave a helping hand we owe him a debt of gratitude.

[stjames1_53]

however, there exists no proof of your claim.

Sure, let me know when he can do it without Russian assistance.

[Agent Zero]

Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases (http://dailysignal.com/2017/07/20/voter-fraud-database-tops-1000-proven-cases/)



Other studies suggest a lot more voter fraud.

Fake stories might, but not credible studies:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.5282bcf5967d


I track any specific, credible allegation that someone may have pretended to be someone else at the polls, in any way that an ID law could fix.
So far, I’ve found about 31 different incidents (some of which involve multiple ballots) since 2000, anywhere in the country. If you want to check my work, you can read a comprehensive list of the incidents below.


To put this in perspective, the 31 incidents below come in the context of general, primary, special, and municipal elections from 2000 through 2014. In general and primary elections alone, more than 1 billion ballots (http://www.fec.gov/general/library.shtml) were cast in that period.
Some of these 31 incidents have been thoroughly investigated (including some prosecutions). But many have not. Based on how other claims have turned out, I’d bet that some of the 31 will end up debunked: a problem with matching people from one big computer list to another, or a data entry error, or confusion between two different people with the same name, or someone signing in on the wrong line of a pollbook.




https://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/


A News21 analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.In an exhaustive public records search, News21 reporters sent thousands of requests to elections officers in all 50 states, asking for every case of fraudulent activity including registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and intimidation.
https://votingrights.news21.com/static/storyassets/FRAUD_TEASER.jpg (https://votingrights.news21.com/interactive/election-fraud-database/) Click the image to view the News21 fraud database.
Analysis of the resulting comprehensive News21 election fraud database turned up 10 cases of voter impersonation. With 146 million registered voters in the United States during that time, those 10 cases represent one out of about every 15 million prospective voters.
“Voter fraud at the polls is an insignificant aspect of American elections,” said elections expert David Schultz, professor of public policy at Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul, Minn.
“There is absolutely no evidence that (voter impersonation fraud) has affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States,” Schultz said.









Note: Nobody ever says fraud doesn't occur. I pointed out two instances of fraud by republicans on here just two weeks ago. It's just that the numbers are so small compared to the billions who vote over the years it's a ridiculous claim.

[Peter1469]

WaPo is on a crusade against Trump. They are a cartoon.


Lol

At this point we have to question people who claim there is no voter fraud.


Fake stories might, but not credible studies:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.5282bcf5967d



https://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/











Note: Nobody ever says fraud doesn't occur. I pointed out two instances of fraud by republicans on here just two weeks ago. It's just that the numbers are so small compared to the billions who vote over the years it's a ridiculous claim.

[Crepitus]

Many people with apparent brain injuries believe as you do. If Putin gave a helping hand we owe him a debt of gratitude.


however, there exists no proof of your claim.

Here guys, I can help. Let Me Google The For You (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Proof+Russians+interfered+to+get+trump+elected)

[Kalkin]

Sure, let me know when he can do it without Russian assistance.

You forgot the word "again" at the end of your drivel.

[Crepitus]

WaPo is on a crusade against Trump. They are a cartoon.


Lol

At this point we have to question people who claim there is no voter fraud.

Barely over 1,000 cases in 20 years is virtually no voter fraud.

[Peter1469]

Here is an actual non-partisan site f (http://blackboxvoting.org/)or voter issues worldwide. Probably too deep for most here. No excitment. No trump attacks.

[Beevee]

Seriously? 1,071 cases of voter fraud in the millions upon millions of votes cast in all elections in the last 20 years? Let's just look at presidential elections, which usually attract around 120,000,000 voters. If we put all the voter fraud that they claim happened in the last 20 years up against just the last election they were equal to 0.000009% of the vote. Now let's look at the last 20 years of presidential elections since that's the time frame for the fraud cases 120,000,000 times 20 is 2.4 billion votes meaning that the percentage of fraudulent votes is 0.00000004%

Seems worth getting all worked up over don't it?

Especially since Trump's lies in the last six months are probably the greater number but that's perfectly acceptable to deplorables.

[Crepitus]

You forgot the word "again" at the end of your drivel.

I'll be happy to add it as soon as he does it once.

[Peter1469]

Especially since Trump's lies in the last six months are probably the greater number but that's perfectly acceptable to deplorables.


Don't forget, Hillary lost because she called half the population deplorable.

But then stupid people never learn.

[Crepitus]

He likely won the popular vote if the illegals were not counted.

You left out the "un" in "unlikely".

[Crepitus]

Don't forget, Hillary lost because she called half the population deplorable.

But then stupid people never learn.

Clinton lost for many many reasons, not the least of which is Trump's Russian assistants.

[Peter1469]

You left out the "un" in "unlikely".
You aren't qualified to tell me what I did or did not do.

Tighten up and be serious for once.

[Crepitus]

You aren't qualified to tell me what I did or did not do.

Tighten up and be serious for once.

As soon as you stop parroting trump lies I'll stop correcting you.

[Peter1469]

As soon as you stop parroting trump lies I'll stop correcting you.
I don't parrot Trump statements. I don't assume everything Trump says is a lie. I didn't vote Trump in 2016. I won't vote Trump in 2020. And I don't suffer from TDS like so many here.

Keep that in the anti-trump threads and don't spread it across the forum, thank you in advance.

[Agent Zero]

Here is an actual non-partisan site f (http://blackboxvoting.org/)or voter issues worldwide. Probably too deep for most here. No excitment. No trump attacks.
I've heard of her. bin Laden had her on his reading list.

However, she focuses on hardware (machine) malfunctions, not fraud.

[Agent Zero]

http://archive.seattleweekly.com/home/958673-129/story.html

[Peter1469]

I've heard of her. bin Laden had her on his reading list.

However, she focuses on hardware (machine) malfunctions, not fraud.
The hardware is where you can get real fraud- like precincts in PA that had zero votes for Mitt. Like that isn't even possible. But she covers it all. Perhaps too much because it gets hard to find anything on the site.

[Peter1469]

http://archive.seattleweekly.com/home/958673-129/story.html
No. So if bin Laden looked at your favorite internet site you would never go back to it?

WTF. This is not an intelligent position to take.

[Agent Zero]

The hardware is where you can get real fraud- like precincts in PA that had zero votes for Mitt. Like that isn't even possible. But she covers it all. Perhaps too much because it gets hard to find anything on the site.

Now you're talking conspiracies. That's been disproven time and time again.

http://www.politifact.com/pennsylvania/statements/2016/aug/12/viral-image/internet-philly-rigged-2012-presidential-election-/

[Peter1469]

Now you're talking conspiracies. That's been disproven time and time again.

http://www.politifact.com/pennsylvania/statements/2016/aug/12/viral-image/internet-philly-rigged-2012-presidential-election-/
I don't think that they are disporven.

[Kalkin]

I'll be happy to add it as soon as he does it once.

He did it last November. Just because you're still shellshocked and in denial doesn't negate reality.

[ripmeister]

That is just prosecutions.

The instances of voter fraud appear to be much higher. We had a thread on a major study a while back that discussed it.
Appear to be? Please, that percentage is less than a rounding error. This dog don't hunt.

[ripmeister]

If true you should have no problem supporting voter ID laws that assure no voter fraud can occur.
I'm all for voter ID laws that don't suppress the vote.

[ripmeister]

And yet again you deflect. Why not admit that you like voter fraud as it helps Democrats win close races?

I do oppose unnecessary regulations. This is not one of those. This protects US national security and sovereignty. Scaling back immigration will help as well.

[Crepitus]

Here is an actual non-partisan site f (http://blackboxvoting.org/)or voter issues worldwide. Probably too deep for most here. No excitment. No trump attacks.

Doesn't say anything about millions of illegal voters in the US anywhere that I saw.

[MisterVeritis]

I'm all for voter ID laws that don't suppress the vote.
None will. Voter ID laws don't suppress alcohol consumption. They don't suppress nicotine addictions. They don't suppress welfare check cashing or the use of food stamps.

[ripmeister]

And yet again you deflect. Why not admit that you like voter fraud as it helps Democrats win close races?

I do oppose unnecessary regulations. This is not one of those. This protects US national security and sovereignty. Scaling back immigration will help as well.

"This protects US national security and sovereignty" says the one who ignores the Russian shenanigans.

[Crepitus]

I don't parrot Trump statements. I don't assume everything Trump says is a lie. I didn't vote Trump in 2016. I won't vote Trump in 2020. And I don't suffer from TDS like so many here.

Keep that in the anti-trump threads and don't spread it across the forum, thank you in advance.

If you don't assume everything Trump says is a lie, you haven't been paying attention.

Trump will not be on the ballot in 2020, he won't even last out the year.

[ripmeister]

Especially since Trump's lies in the last six months are probably the greater number but that's perfectly acceptable to deplorables.
Or the number of rounds of golf played. Remember that criticism? LOL. You guys are funny.

[MisterVeritis]

"This protects US national security and sovereignty" says the one who ignores the Russian shenanigans.
Whether there are or aren't Russian shenanigans is not relevant. Every nation does what it can to influence our elections. Far more damaging is what liberal/progressive institutions do and have done.

[ripmeister]

Don't forget, Hillary lost because she called half the population deplorable.

But then stupid people never learn.
That was most likely an issue. She dissed some traditional Democratic voters. I fail to see what that has to do with voter fraud though.

[Crepitus]

He did it last November. Just because you're still shellshocked and in denial doesn't negate reality.

The reality is he had Russian help.

[MisterVeritis]

The reality is he had Russian help.
You really should get that looked at.

[Crepitus]

You really should get that looked at.

The special counsel is looking into it as we speak. You can hear Trump's tooth-gnashing from here.

[ripmeister]

Whether there are or aren't Russian shenanigans is not relevant. Every nation does what it can to influence our elections. Far more damaging is what liberal/progressive institutions do and have done.
Not relevant? So we should just ignore it?

[Kalkin]

The reality is he had Russian help.
Conjecture is not proof. Sorry.

[stjames1_53]

If you don't assume everything Trump says is a lie, you haven't been paying attention.

Trump will not be on the ballot in 2020, he won't even last out the year.

didn't you predict, first, that he'd never get the nomination, then, second that he would never be elected?

[stjames1_53]

Not relevant? So we should just ignore it?
shall we talk about the CIA drug running, regime toppling, and assassinations? let's not point too many fingers at anyone else......

[MisterVeritis]

If you don't assume everything Trump says is a lie, you haven't been paying attention.
Trump will not be on the ballot in 2020, he won't even last out the year.
If you fail to plan for eight Trump years you have failed to plan.

[MisterVeritis]

Not relevant? So we should just ignore it?
Yes. Follow Obama's lead. Put on your best mom jeans and tell Putin to cut it out.

Relax. We have an American man in the White House. Don't worry your pretty little head.

[MisterVeritis]

Not relevant? So we should just ignore it?
The Democratic National Committee was so concerned they refused to cooperate with the FBI. You are being well played.

[MisterVeritis]

The special counsel is looking into it as we speak. You can hear Trump's tooth-gnashing from here.
Yes. I know. We have a witch hunt going on. It distracts from important things.

[Peter1469]

Appear to be? Please, that percentage is less than a rounding error. This dog don't hunt.


Come on. The hard left says there is zero voter fraud. 3 million is significant even if you suck your thumb and say no. That was the popular vote spread.

Hillary the crook did not win the popuplar vote when illegals are removed.

[Peter1469]

The reality is he had Russian help.

If the Russians were helping anyone it was your girl. They know she is a puff they can mold.

[Hal Jordan]

Many people with apparent brain injuries believe as you do. If Putin gave a helping hand we owe him a debt of gratitude.

Refrain from insults.

[Agent Zero]

Come on. The hard left says there is zero voter fraud. 3 million is significant even if you suck your thumb and say no. That was the popular vote spread.

Hillary the crook did not win the popuplar vote when illegals are removed.
Where did the "hard left" say that? While I'm not hard left, I've acknowledged there's voter fraud on both sides, although nowhere near the numbers the far alt right claims. I believe it's something like .03% of the total votes cast.

And I've proven that with legitimate sources.

What's your proof? Fake news.

[Peter1469]

You toss around words like alt-right and fake news incorrectly.

[ripmeister]

shall we talk about the CIA drug running, regime toppling, and assassinations? let's not point too many fingers at anyone else......

The Johnny did it too argument does not address the point

[ripmeister]

Come on. The hard left says there is zero voter fraud. 3 million is significant even if you suck your thumb and say no. That was the popular vote spread.

Hillary the crook did not win the popuplar vote when illegals are removed.
What three million? In this past election?

[Peter1469]

What three million? In this past election?

Yes. We had a thread about it a couple of months ago I believe.

[del]

Yes. We had a thread about it a couple of months ago I believe.

we had a thread about bigfoot too.

that was more credible.

[ripmeister]

I don't believe Putin swayed anyone to vote one way or the other. You are deflecting. Why do you do that?

Oh I think this is exactly what happened, a misinformation, propaganda campaign that was targeted. Some fence sitters were likely swayed.

[stjames1_53]

The Johnny did it too argument does not address the point

can't talk about one without considering the other

[stjames1_53]

Oh I think this is exactly what happened, a misinformation, propaganda campaign that was targeted. Some fence sitters were likely swayed.
point the specific ones you are talking about.
What advertisement?
What mailers were sent out?
Hillary cut her own throat, get used to it

[Peter1469]

Hillary made a lot of serious mistakes to include the delorables comment. The DNC also harmed Hillary when its corruption was uncovered.

[MisterVeritis]

Oh I think this is exactly what happened, a misinformation, propaganda campaign that was targeted. Some fence sitters were likely swayed.
Except it was factual. Crooked Hillary really does have a broken brain. And she really is crooked. And the DNC really did collude with Clinton and the leftist media to prevent Sanders from winning the nomination.

Low information voters were exposed to factual information. Crooked lost because Americans, enough of us, knew the truth.

And Trump was a magnificent campaigner. He drew crowds, in the tens of thousands five times a day. Crooked Hillary drew tens of people in her campaign trips one or twice a week. Trump went everywhere. Crooked Hillary went to safe states.

[stjames1_53]

we had a thread about bigfoot too.

that was more credible.

so, you don't believe the claim that Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million?

[stjames1_53]

Oh I think this is exactly what happened, a misinformation, propaganda campaign that was targeted. Some fence sitters were likely swayed.

How? What information swayed the voters?

[Peter1469]

Well, with over 3M possible cases of voter fraud it is likely that Hill did not win the popular vote.