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Chris
07-24-2017, 10:38 AM
Blah.

The Democrats’ new slogan shows they learned nothing from Bernie Sanders’ campaign (https://mic.com/articles/182707/the-democrats-new-slogan-shows-they-learned-nothing-from-bernie-sanders-campaign#.X5ob3qQkr)


Democrats have an image problem.

Despite President Donald Trump’s unpopularity — his approval rating is historically low — a new Washington Post-ABC News poll found that only 37% of Americans believe that the Democratic Party “stands for something,” while 52% say that it “just stands against Trump.” And, while more young people voted for Bernie Sanders than cast ballots for Hillary Clinton and Trump combined during the 2016 primaries, registered voters (and particularly young voters of color) stayed home by wide enough margins in November to have likely cost Clinton the election.

So, on Monday, the party will roll out its new campaign platform and slogan, titled “A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages.”

Already the subject of deep derision by liberals and conservatives alike, the slogan is reportedly the result of several months of focus-group testing by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, representing an attempt on behalf of party leadership to move away from so-called identity politics and put forward a unified economic message in the Trump era.

But advertising and marketing executives panned the effort to Mic in interviews, calling the sloganeering “painfully dry,” “a missed opportunity” and “exactly how the Republican party wins.” All of the executives suggested that the party has, more than six months after the painful loss of Clinton’s presidential race, not learned the lessons of a campaign that failed to connect with enough voters in key states.

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Moving away from identity politics is great, but the slogan, just blah.

Kalkin
07-24-2017, 10:40 AM
Idiot dems make a slogan promising shyt the government has no business providing.

resister
07-24-2017, 10:54 AM
How about "Democrats, we promise not to suck so bad, anymore" ?

Common
07-24-2017, 12:14 PM
Sounded like a Papa Johns Commercial

Chris
07-24-2017, 12:29 PM
Sounded like a Papa Johns Commercial

"Better Ingredients. Better Pizza. Papa John's."

https://i.snag.gy/V041u6.jpg


The Pizza Party!

Ravens Fan
07-24-2017, 12:31 PM
Sounded like a Papa Johns Commercial


"Better Ingredients. Better Pizza. Papa John's."

Just missing the better ingredients and better pizza...

Captain Obvious
07-24-2017, 01:08 PM
Papa Johns is fucking crap, swill for the masses.

Write a jingle and idiots will flock to your door whether you are selling shitty pizza or trying to resuscitate a broken political party.

MisterVeritis
07-24-2017, 01:11 PM
Papa Johns is fucking crap, swill for the masses.

Write a jingle and idiots will flock to your door whether you are selling shitty pizza or trying to resuscitate a broken political party.
Doesn't that fit the Democratic Party? Crap. Swill for the masses?

Green Arrow
07-24-2017, 01:12 PM
The Democrats spending months working on this drivel is like the Republicans spending seven years to come up with the AHCA.

When are we going to stop buying this crap and demand better leaders?

The Xl
07-24-2017, 01:17 PM
The left would probably beat out the Republicans if they ran on something other than pursuing this Trump Russian conspiracy theory. They look desperate and retarded at this point.

Captain Obvious
07-24-2017, 01:40 PM
The Democrats spending months working on this drivel is like the Republicans spending seven years to come up with the AHCA.

When are we going to stop buying this crap and demand better leaders?

Never

Democracy failed.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2017, 03:59 PM
Sounded like a Papa Johns Commercial

When was the last time a Democrat had an original idea?

Kalkin
07-24-2017, 10:52 PM
When are we going to stop buying this crap and demand better leaders?
Even better, when are we going to insist that the federal government live within its means and concentrate on things specifically outlined as its responsibilities in the Constitution?

Chris
07-25-2017, 09:05 AM
I'm not really surprised no Democrat defends this.

Same Old Democrats (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-07-24/the-democrats-better-deal-shows-why-they-keep-losing)


The Democrats are a party adrift. They've been able to slow the progress of the new administration to a considerable degree using parliamentary tricks and legislative maneuvers but no one, including some of their most senior political leaders, really has a clue how to get out of the hole they dug for themselves while Barack Obama was president.

His shift to the left – he ran as a centrist but governed as a progressive – showed a whole new generation of young, middle and working-class voters that the Democrats can be trusted to tax you, spend your money on someone else, and impose regulations on the economy that make it tough for you to find a job.

Sooner or later, they always revert to form no matter how hard they try to hide it. Walter Mondale didn't hide it – and in 1984 he lost 49 states and the presidency to Ronald Reagan. Bill Clinton did hide it and won twice, albeit with less than 50 percent of the popular vote each time, but he was smart enough to work with the first Republican Congress in 40 years to produce a series of balanced budgets and to sign, after first vetoing it twice, tough welfare reform legislation that worked.

The Democrats latest try at assembling an agenda for the future was released to little enthusiasm Monday in ex-urban Virginia. Bearing a slogan that sounds like it was stolen from a pizza chain (whose founder and spokesman happens to be a Republican), party luminaries including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer – both of whom hail from major American cities – tried to persuade voters in the suburban, ex-urban and rural areas that Democrats are in sync with their interests.

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resister
07-25-2017, 11:01 AM
Even better, when are we going to insist that the federal government live within its means and concentrate on things specifically outlined as its responsibilities in the Constitution?
Now there's a thought!

ripmeister
07-25-2017, 11:13 AM
When was the last time a Democrat had an original idea?
Certainly not the ACA. That was a conservative idea. :grin:

Chris
07-25-2017, 11:25 AM
Certainly not the ACA. That was a conservative idea. :grin:

Actually, it wasn't. The conservative idea was to mandate the private purchase of health insurance much like liability auto insurance. The government would have no other involvement. Not like the ACA at all.

Tahuyaman
07-25-2017, 12:33 PM
Certainly not the ACA. That was a conservative idea. :grin:

This meme is getting old. The ACA was one of the greatest achievements by a Democrat president is US history until it became obvious that it is a complete failure. Now it's a conservative idea. Of course you can't find any conservative who agrees with that idea.

Green Arrow
07-25-2017, 01:15 PM
I'm not really surprised no Democrat defends this.

Same Old Democrats (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-07-24/the-democrats-better-deal-shows-why-they-keep-losing)

That article tries to suggest that somehow young, middle, and working class voters were somehow teed off at Obama for shifting left, yet fails to acknowledge that (at least for young and working class voters) those same voters voted for the most left-wing elected politician in American history, Bernie Sanders, during the Democratic primaries.

Chris
07-25-2017, 01:31 PM
That article tries to suggest that somehow young, middle, and working class voters were somehow teed off at Obama for shifting left, yet fails to acknowledge that (at least for young and working class voters) those same voters voted for the most left-wing elected politician in American history, Bernie Sanders, during the Democratic primaries.

But did they vote for Sanders because his social democracy appealed to them or Hillary did not?

Green Arrow
07-25-2017, 01:44 PM
But did they vote for Sanders because his social democracy appealed to them or Hillary did not?

Both.

Chris
07-25-2017, 01:49 PM
Both.

Sure, just as sure as my dad, a blue dog democrat, voted for his centrist campaign first time around but distrusted him the second time.

ripmeister
07-25-2017, 01:56 PM
Actually, it wasn't. The conservative idea was to mandate the private purchase of health insurance much like liability auto insurance. The government would have no other involvement. Not like the ACA at all.
That's not my recollection of the work done by The Heritage Foundation and what occurred in Mass., but maybe I'm wrong.

Chris
07-25-2017, 02:01 PM
That's not my recollection of the work done by The Heritage Foundation and what occurred in Mass., but maybe I'm wrong.

It is what the Heritage House proposed. It's not what Dems made of it.