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Adelaide
07-31-2017, 09:39 AM
But if Ivanka Trump and Kushner, socially liberal former Democratic donors, remain influential voices with Trump on personnel decisions, they have so far had little effect on his policies.
Last week they were blindsided by the president’s tweet saying he planned to ban transgender people from serving in the military, according to several White House aides, a major coup for conservatives who had been quietly lobbying the administration on the issue for months.
White House officials said the first daughter was surprised by her father’s posts; in the past, Trump has been a supporter of gay rights. Ivanka Trump, according to these officials, learned of the decision when she saw her father’s tweet on her phone.
Ivanka and Jared find their limits in Trump's White House - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/30/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-241149)
Forget for a second what Trump decided to do. Forget the gender issues, the financial issues, the matter of whether the military is the right place to transition or what not.
Trump's closest advisors, including his own child, apparently did not know about this decision until they read it on Twitter. That would seem very problematic. If he didn't consult them, who did he consult? Did he consult anyone? It would seem extremely impulsive and random if Trump went about announcing this policy on Twitter without discussing it with his closest advisors. Announcing it on Twitter, period, seems impulsive and not the right platform.
leekohler2
07-31-2017, 09:55 AM
He's pretty much flying by the seat of his pants. This is by far the worst president we've ever had.
He didn't consult with anybody on that turd. He just threw it out there as a distraction and to further piss his detractors.
The Pentagon is for now ignoring the tweet .. business as usual unless and until he can come up with a plan of how this rolls out.
For instance, how to handle the thousands of transgenders ALREADY SERVING.
We hired an idiot
He's pretty much flying by the seat of his pants. This is by far the worst president we've ever had.
Catch this one Lee? Trump on Mount Rushmore! :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txu41280_lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLWt9Z2Pxo
Chris
07-31-2017, 10:30 AM
He's far too impulsive, reactionary...liberal.
Chris
07-31-2017, 10:31 AM
He didn't consult with anybody on that turd. He just threw it out there as a distraction and to further piss his detractors.
The Pentagon is for now ignoring the tweet .. business as usual unless and until he can come up with a plan of how this rolls out.
For instance, how to handle the thousands of transgenders ALREADY SERVING.
We hired an idiot
Makes us idiots in an idiocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0
Makes us idiots in an idiocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYwX8Z43zg
He's far too impulsive, reactionary...liberal.
Yes, Trump was a liberal until he discovered Birtherism in 2009.
Since, he's been neither a liberal nor a conservative - mostly just an a-hole.
Makes us idiots in an idiocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0
speak for yourself
Common
07-31-2017, 01:40 PM
The President doesnt have to consult with anyone.
MisterVeritis
07-31-2017, 02:11 PM
The President doesnt have to consult with anyone.
I suspect he has been consulting with many advisors. After he had enough information he made a decision. And now we all know what that decision was.
Cannons Front
07-31-2017, 02:22 PM
He didn't consult with anybody on that turd. He just threw it out there as a distraction and to further piss his detractors.
The Pentagon is for now ignoring the tweet .. business as usual unless and until he can come up with a plan of how this rolls out.
For instance, how to handle the thousands of transgenders ALREADY SERVING. We hired an idiot
First off I highly doubt there are not Thousands of Transgendered people already serving, a lot of whack a moles are saying up to 15,000 but that is from a UCLA study that just kinda made it up, one of the authors even said so.
There are an estimated 700,000 transgendered in the US, if you put them in the military at an equal rate to non transgendered you would have about 1500 total in the total force active and reserve. So in order to have thousands transgendered people would have to join at twice the rate of non transgendered people, do you really think that is how it is working?
Casper
07-31-2017, 02:24 PM
Ivanka and Jared find their limits in Trump's White House - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/30/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-241149)
Forget for a second what Trump decided to do. Forget the gender issues, the financial issues, the matter of whether the military is the right place to transition or what not.
Trump's closest advisors, including his own child, apparently did not know about this decision until they read it on Twitter. That would seem very problematic. If he didn't consult them, who did he consult? Did he consult anyone? It would seem extremely impulsive and random if Trump went about announcing this policy on Twitter without discussing it with his closest advisors. Announcing it on Twitter, period, seems impulsive and not the right platform.
I keep wondering how long her loyalty to father will last with him attacking many of the things she supports, somewhere along the line one has to be true unto themselves first. My guess is she will find a reason somewhere along the way to simply leave the WH.
Casper
07-31-2017, 02:27 PM
The President doesnt have to consult with anyone.
Correct, every General asked said they had not been consulted at all, for a CIC he sure does seem to know how the military works.
ripmeister
07-31-2017, 03:12 PM
I keep wondering how long her loyalty to father will last with him attacking many of the things she supports, somewhere along the line one has to be true unto themselves first. My guess is she will find a reason somewhere along the way to simply leave the WH.
She'll leave when it starts to affect her brand. She's a poser. When it hits the pocket book she'll bail.
I keep wondering how long her loyalty to father will last with him attacking many of the things she supports, somewhere along the line one has to be true unto themselves first. My guess is she will find a reason somewhere along the way to simply leave the WH.
my guess is her support for what she claims to believe in is a mile wide and a half inch deep.
ripmeister
07-31-2017, 03:14 PM
my guess is her support for what she claims to believe in is a mile wide and a half inch deep.
As I said, a poser, just like her husband the boy wonder.
Tahuyaman
07-31-2017, 05:42 PM
Ivanka learned of transgender policy on Twitter
So what? What's the problem?
Grokmaster
07-31-2017, 09:05 PM
Ivanka and Jared find their limits in Trump's White House - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/30/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-241149)
Forget for a second what Trump decided to do. Forget the gender issues, the financial issues, the matter of whether the military is the right place to transition or what not.
Trump's closest advisors, including his own child, apparently did not know about this decision until they read it on Twitter. That would seem very problematic. If he didn't consult them, who did he consult? Did he consult anyone? It would seem extremely impulsive and random if Trump went about announcing this policy on Twitter without discussing it with his closest advisors. Announcing it on Twitter, period, seems impulsive and not the right platform.
"according to several White House aides, "
"White House officials said "
Yaaaaawwwwnnnnnn.....
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