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Common
08-02-2017, 05:44 AM
This is how demented some democrats are, the middle class should leave california and let it become a total parasitic state

A leader of the movement for California to secede from the U.S. claimed on Tuesday that the middle class leaving California is a “good thing” because it makes room for a “new wave of immigrants.”

Fox News’ Tucker Carlson asked “Calexit” leader Shankar Singam how California could stand as its own nation given their current mismanagement has caused the middle class to move to other states.
Singam, who believes the Golden State is “not the U.S.,” argued that it is a “good thing” that the middle class is leaving California because it makes room for new immigrants.
“We need to open up for the new wave of immigrants to come up,” Singman said. “We’re exporting our middle class to the United States–you guys should be thanking us for that.”
“I’ve never met you, I’ve never heard of you, I don’t know if this is like a parody segment, you’re punking me right now, or you’re really high…but you just said you’re happy to be exporting the middle class in your state,” The Daily Caller founder said incredulously.
“Are you being serious?” Carlson asked.
“I’m only admitting the truth,” Singam asserted. “Well I mean if they want to move, there’s nothing I can do to stop them. I’m sure they’ll figure out how boring it is out there and they’ll move back.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/calexit-leader-replace-middle-class-with-immigrants-video/

Captain Obvious
08-02-2017, 06:05 AM
Shankar... lol

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 06:13 AM
Sankar doesn't get it.... as of now, the middle class in CA is paying for the fires and dams...let 'em leave. Sankar is going to use the illegal aliens to put out the wildfires and use them as cheap labor to rebuild that dam. He loves his slave class........

IMPress Polly
08-02-2017, 06:53 AM
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

...and here's their embassy in Moscow, fully recognized! (https://www.rt.com/usa/370698-calexit-california-embassy-moscow/) :laugh: Somehow, that always seems to be the first place these movements go when seeking external support. In the ally of Russia's new and rather ambitious czar, these people have a lot more in common with the White House than they realize. Mr. Putin wants to see America broken up for the same reason he wants to see Europe broken up: because it then becomes much easier to expand one's empire.

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 07:18 AM
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

...and here's their embassy in Moscow, fully recognized! (https://www.rt.com/usa/370698-calexit-california-embassy-moscow/) :laugh: Somehow, that always seems to be the first place these movements go when seeking external support. In the ally of Russia's new and rather ambitious czar, these people have a lot more in common with the White House than they realize. Mr. Putin wants to see America broken up for the same reason he wants to see Europe broken up: because it then becomes much easier to expand one's empire.
The EU was already breaking up before Putin ever made it to the scene. They have bigger problems with the mass invasion by the Muslims.
Putin knows he cannot control America. So your assumption is based on feeling rather than thinking.
Funny how you embraced socialism, a plank in Communism, while Obama was in office...recall socialized medicine? Obama took over almost 5% of the private economy and socialized it. That's how it all begins.....

Common
08-02-2017, 07:37 AM
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

...and here's their embassy in Moscow, fully recognized! (https://www.rt.com/usa/370698-calexit-california-embassy-moscow/) :laugh: Somehow, that always seems to be the first place these movements go when seeking external support. In the ally of Russia's new and rather ambitious czar, these people have a lot more in common with the White House than they realize. Mr. Putin wants to see America broken up for the same reason he wants to see Europe broken up: because it then becomes much easier to expand one's empire.
Theres another point here, he wants the middle class gone because they are mostly white and he wants to replace them with immigrants. Its as much about racism as anything else.

Liberals will have their day of reckoning, when they are all voted out of office and come to reality. OH SHIT WHAT DID WE DO TO OURSELVES. Its coming make no mistake, I may not see it but the kids of all of todays unthinking liberals will pay for what their parents have done to this country

Common Sense
08-02-2017, 08:02 AM
Singham isn't a Democrat.

It's bizarre how some take one person or a small group of people's actions and indict an entire political group.

It indicates either ignorance or blind hatred that drives people to ignore rationality.

Mini Me
08-02-2017, 08:16 AM
There is no middle class anymore! It is the 1% ruling over all the rest of us now.

The "Ozzie and Harriet" myth went out many years ago.

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 09:13 AM
Singham isn't a Democrat.

It's bizarre how some take one person or a small group of people's actions and indict an entire political group.

It indicates either ignorance or blind hatred that drives people to ignore rationality.

says the Canadian that wants to see Trump removed and a democrat installed......you have attacked the republicans with blind hatred and intolerance

Abby08
08-02-2017, 09:55 AM
Sankar doesn't get it.... as of now, the middle class in CA is paying for the fires and dams...let 'em leave. Sankar is going to use the illegal aliens to put out the wildfires and use them as cheap labor to rebuild that dam. He loves his slave class........

Are you kidding me? Illegals working for a living? Why do you think they're in California to begin with?

Abby08
08-02-2017, 10:02 AM
How is California to survive, if the middle class, the people who hold most of the jobs, leave? Who's left to take care of the illegals, welfare recipients, dead beats and, the like?

If it is no longer part of the US, there's no federal money, no disaster relief aid.....let the illegals have it, then, start taking bets on how long it takes Nancy Pelosi to move.

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 11:02 AM
How is California to survive, if the middle class, the people who hold most of the jobs, leave? Who's left to take care of the illegals, welfare recipients, dead beats and, the like?

If it is no longer part of the US, there's no federal money, no disaster relief aid.....let the illegals have it, then, start taking bets on how long it takes Nancy Pelosi to move.

ma bet is minutes.............

Mechanic
08-02-2017, 11:38 AM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 12:01 PM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.

uh, huh..............suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

http://www.gao.gov/products/HEHS-98-30

Agent Zero
08-02-2017, 12:10 PM
This is how demented some democrats are, the middle class should leave california and let it become a total parasitic state

A leader of the movement for California to secede from the U.S. claimed on Tuesday that the middle class leaving California is a “good thing” because it makes room for a “new wave of immigrants.”

Fox News’ Tucker Carlson asked “Calexit” leader Shankar Singam how California could stand as its own nation given their current mismanagement has caused the middle class to move to other states.
Singam, who believes the Golden State is “not the U.S.,” argued that it is a “good thing” that the middle class is leaving California because it makes room for new immigrants.
“We need to open up for the new wave of immigrants to come up,” Singman said. “We’re exporting our middle class to the United States–you guys should be thanking us for that.”
“I’ve never met you, I’ve never heard of you, I don’t know if this is like a parody segment, you’re punking me right now, or you’re really high…but you just said you’re happy to be exporting the middle class in your state,” The Daily Caller founder said incredulously.
“Are you being serious?” Carlson asked.
“I’m only admitting the truth,” Singam asserted. “Well I mean if they want to move, there’s nothing I can do to stop them. I’m sure they’ll figure out how boring it is out there and they’ll move back.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/calexit-leader-replace-middle-class-with-immigrants-video/

When is Texas planning to secede?

Abby08
08-02-2017, 12:44 PM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.

Boy, are you ever ignorant of the facts. You think a city that shields illegal criminals, doesn't give them welfare as well? Hell, they don't even have to prove they ARE legal citizens, California doesn't care!

It's been proven, illegals can and, do receive welfare, in more states than just California.

Illegals have ways of getting SS cards, they are actually given driver's licenses in some states..... surely, you're able to connect those dots?

Abby08
08-02-2017, 12:50 PM
There is no reason to inject insults into your replies, your opinion on Conservatives is well known. It does not, I repeat, does not, give the appearance of intelligence.

Abby08
08-02-2017, 12:54 PM
The belief that, a person has to prove citizenship to receive welfare, is laughable. Maybe, a person new to the country, would believe that, but, not if you've lived here your entire life.

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 01:50 PM
When is Texas planning to secede?

you're dividing by zero, again

Agent Zero
08-02-2017, 05:05 PM
Boy, are you ever ignorant of the facts. You think a city that shields illegal criminals, doesn't give them welfare as well? Hell, they don't even have to prove they ARE legal citizens, California doesn't care!

It's been proven, illegals can and, do receive welfare, in more states than just California.

Illegals have ways of getting SS cards, they are actually given driver's licenses in some states..... surely, you're able to connect those dots?

Care to back that up with proof?

Agent Zero
08-02-2017, 05:08 PM
https://www.texassecede.com/

Common
08-02-2017, 05:35 PM
Singham isn't a Democrat.

It's bizarre how some take one person or a small group of people's actions and indict an entire political group.

It indicates either ignorance or blind hatred that drives people to ignore rationality.

I dont care what his label is, hes an asshole and a liberal

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 05:45 PM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.

bullsh!t.....the middle class can't afford your kind of taxes.......you are deliberately forcing them to leave. and slave wages will cost you more in the long run

Peter1469
08-02-2017, 05:48 PM
We should move the hard left and illegals into a desert somewhere and move decent people into California.

Abby08
08-02-2017, 05:54 PM
We should move the hard left and illegals into a desert somewhere and move decent people into California.

Decent people don't want California.

Peter1469
08-02-2017, 05:55 PM
Decent people don't want California.
It is beautiful. Its problem is the hard left and the illegals.

Abby08
08-02-2017, 06:01 PM
It is beautiful. Its problem is the hard left and the illegals.

Oh, I know, I'm from Monterey county. The only way to make California what it used to be, is, get rid of the politicians like Nancy Pelosi and, everyone who shields illegals. The hard left.... definitely.

Then and, only then, could decent people live.

KathyS
08-02-2017, 06:16 PM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.
http://www.masslegalhelp.org/income-benefits/food-stamps-immigrants-myths-and-facts




Myth: You have to be a U.S. citizen to get SNAP. Fact: Some legally present immigrants can get SNAP. If you are an “eligible immigrant,” you may qualify. Ask your local DTA office (https://eohhs.ehs.state.ma.us/DTAOffices/default.aspx). See Am I eligible if I am a legal immigrant? (http://www.masslegalhelp.org/income-benefits/income-benefits/food-stamps/advocacy-guide/part2/q21-legal-immigrant-eligibility)

Myth: Getting SNAP hurts your chances of becoming a citizen. Fact: If you are a legal immigrant and you get SNAP, it will not hurt your chances of becoming a citizen.

Myth: If you don’t have legal status, you can’t get SNAP. Fact: Undocumented people can’t get SNAP. But citizens and some legal immigrants who live with them can get SNAP, including children.

Myth: Children of undocumented immigrants can’t get SNAP. Fact: Children of undocumented immigrants can get SNAP if they are citizens or legal permanent residents.

Myth: Undocumented people who ask about the SNAP Program or live with people who get SNAP are reported to United States Citizenship & Immigration Services (USCIS). Fact: SNAP Program information is confidential and DTA will not report immigration information to USCIS (unless you show DTA a final order of removal). But, DTA checks the immigration documents you give them with USCIS. If you are undocumented, you won’t be asked for your immigration documents. Other members of the household can still apply and may be eligible.

Myth: If USCIS finds out you get SNAP, you have to pay them back. Fact: People who are eligible and get SNAP in the right amount do not have to pay them back. Make sure the information you give when you apply is correct. If you get SNAP because of wrong information, you will have to pay them back.

Myth:You can’t get SNAP even if you have a green card and work. Fact: Many immigrants with a green card are eligible. Generally, if you have been in the U.S. with a green card for 5 years; are a child under 18; get a disability-related benefit; or have enough work history in the U.S, you may be able to get SNAP. You may also be eligible if you have another legal status. See Am I eligible if I am a legal immigrant? (http://www.masslegalhelp.org/income-benefits/income-benefits/food-stamps/advocacy-guide/part2/q21-legal-immigrant-eligibility)

Myth: You can’t apply for SNAP if you don’t speak English. Fact: Anyone can apply for SNAP. DTA has applications in English, Spanish and Portuguese. DTA case managers also have to get an interpreter to help you with the application or the application process. Or a friend or family member who speaks English can help you apply.

Myth:You have to bring your own interpreter to apply for SNAP. Fact: DTA must provide interpreter services if you prefer to speak a language other than English.

KathyS
08-02-2017, 06:18 PM
https://www.texassecede.com/

Big difference there, Kemosabi. Texans don't want our state to turn into CA. We welcome people that have no intention of changing our culture, language, and lack of a state tax.

MisterVeritis
08-02-2017, 06:20 PM
The middle class are not leaving California. Only low class conservatives are. As for illegals on welfare or not working that is a republican myth. To receive welfare one must prove citizenship, SSN.
When I escaped I took my $130K per year salary with me.

Illegals were everywhere.

nic34
08-02-2017, 06:34 PM
This is how demented some democrats are, the middle class should leave california and let it become a total parasitic state

A leader of the movement for California to secede from the U.S. claimed on Tuesday that the middle class leaving California is a “good thing” because it makes room for a “new wave of immigrants.”

Fox News’ Tucker Carlson asked “Calexit” leader Shankar Singam how California could stand as its own nation given their current mismanagement has caused the middle class to move to other states.
Singam, who believes the Golden State is “not the U.S.,” argued that it is a “good thing” that the middle class is leaving California because it makes room for new immigrants.
“We need to open up for the new wave of immigrants to come up,” Singman said. “We’re exporting our middle class to the United States–you guys should be thanking us for that.”
“I’ve never met you, I’ve never heard of you, I don’t know if this is like a parody segment, you’re punking me right now, or you’re really high…but you just said you’re happy to be exporting the middle class in your state,” The Daily Caller founder said incredulously.
“Are you being serious?” Carlson asked.
“I’m only admitting the truth,” Singam asserted. “Well I mean if they want to move, there’s nothing I can do to stop them. I’m sure they’ll figure out how boring it is out there and they’ll move back.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/calexit-leader-replace-middle-class-with-immigrants-video/

Your conservative California legacy:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/LA_Smog.jpg

https://usjf.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/traffic-jam-SC.jpg

Captain Obvious
08-02-2017, 06:37 PM
Your conservative California legacy:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/LA_Smog.jpg

https://usjf.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/traffic-jam-SC.jpg

lol

How much was that train again?

nic34
08-02-2017, 06:38 PM
We should move the hard left and illegals into a desert somewhere and move decent people into California.

Maybe they can all move in next to Sarah.... lol!

http://static1.bornrichimages.com/cdn2/683/384/91/c/wp-content/uploads/s3/1/2012/05/28/1338206213.jpg

Peter1469
08-02-2017, 06:47 PM
Just move them all out. No need to discuss the matter.

MisterVeritis
08-02-2017, 07:18 PM
Your conservative California legacy:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/LA_Smog.jpg

https://usjf.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/traffic-jam-SC.jpg
What makes your images conservative? Is it the evidence of industry and prosperity?

stjames1_53
08-02-2017, 07:27 PM
What makes your images conservative? Is it the evidence of industry and prosperity?

nope. the heavy hand of socialism...hell, they cant afford to fight a couple of small fires or repair a teensy dam, but they're going to cede

resister
08-02-2017, 08:03 PM
Maybe they can all move in next to Sarah.... lol!

http://static1.bornrichimages.com/cdn2/683/384/91/c/wp-content/uploads/s3/1/2012/05/28/1338206213.jpg
Is that Maxine Waters weekend getaway? lol

nic34
08-03-2017, 10:21 AM
What makes your images conservative? Is it the evidence of industry and prosperity?

The rejection of mass transit early on and full embrace of fossil fuels are not based on liberal ideals.

MisterVeritis
08-03-2017, 11:28 AM
The rejection of mass transit early on and full embrace of fossil fuels are not based on liberal ideals.
Government control over transportation is a liberal ideal. Gotcha.

Abby08
08-03-2017, 11:33 AM
Care to back that up with proof?

C'mon, you already know it's true, unless you were born yesterday.

Abby08
08-03-2017, 11:46 AM
The state in which I currently reside, gives illegals driver's licenses.......we already know, well, those of us who don't have our heads buried in the sand, they most certainly have ways of obtaining fake SS numbers.... That's all they need to apply for and, receive government benefits.

Only people who don't want to know the truth, deny illegals can and, do, receive government benefits.

Mister D
08-03-2017, 01:08 PM
Care to back that up with proof?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/30/irs-doesnt-tell-1-million-taxpayers-that-illegal-i/

Mechanic
08-03-2017, 01:18 PM
I truly enjoy the stupidity expressed in this thread.

resister
08-03-2017, 01:21 PM
I truly enjoy the stupidity expressed in this thread.
As do I. Keep posting!

resister
08-03-2017, 01:22 PM
The state in which I currently reside, gives illegals driver's licenses.......we already know, well, those of us who don't have our heads buried in the sand, they most certainly have ways of obtaining fake SS numbers.... That's all they need to apply for and, receive government benefits.

Only people who don't want to know the truth, deny illegals can and, do, receive government benefits.
I bet it would be super hard for them to vote :rollseyes:

Abby08
08-03-2017, 01:54 PM
I truly enjoy the stupidity expressed in this thread.

You should, you provide most of it.

Abby08
08-03-2017, 02:00 PM
I bet it would be super hard for them to vote :rollseyes:

Near impossible....

nic34
08-03-2017, 04:20 PM
Government control over transportation is a liberal ideal. Gotcha.

Local government controlled trains got gobbled up by corporate big Automakers and the fossil fuel industry. You got nothin....

Common Sense
08-03-2017, 04:23 PM
I dont care what his label is, hes an asshole and a liberal

Yes, I do understand that facts are irrelevant to you.

Ethereal
08-03-2017, 04:28 PM
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

...and here's their embassy in Moscow, fully recognized! (https://www.rt.com/usa/370698-calexit-california-embassy-moscow/) :laugh: Somehow, that always seems to be the first place these movements go when seeking external support. In the ally of Russia's new and rather ambitious czar, these people have a lot more in common with the White House than they realize. Mr. Putin wants to see America broken up for the same reason he wants to see Europe broken up: because it then becomes much easier to expand one's empire.
You realize that decentralization and federalism long predate Putin, right? They aren't Russian conspiracies to conquer the world.

Ethereal
08-03-2017, 04:30 PM
When is Texas planning to secede?
Soon, I hope.